A manual trans these days are truly for the enthusiast's who want that one to one driving experience, definitely not for everyone, but like you mentioned it's just not all about how fast you can go in a straight line. I had a 15' GT/PP mustang and never had an issue with the stock manual trans in the 4 years I had it, now in a 19' GT350 it just got better. Enjoy your manual as it's just a much more engaging driving experience.
The GT350 gets the Tremec T56. Although the MT82 isn’t actually as problematic as many people think. From what I’ve read, the issue really lies in the stock clutch Ford used.
You have hit the nail on the head with this video. "Fun to drive, always be special and make you smile". I love that. I mean, why are you buying one of these cars in the first place if its not for all that?!
I would only if they come with a supercharger or a turbo setup and a dct transmission, otherwise im sticking with the manual, mustang are fun cars to drive, not super cars to race, i wouldnt take a bmw m4 or m8 manual tho.
My last car was a BMW M2 with the DCT transmission. A fine car but the involvement was slightly lacking. Purchased a 2023 Mustang GT with a 6 speed transmission. Just as fast but more enjoyable. If the car is just for yourself and you enjoy drives on the weekend, a manual shifting transmission restores the involvement and integration. It so nice reliving the late 60's vibe.
I just test drove an automatic GT performance pack and a manual GT performance pack, back to back. I’ll take the manual all day, every day. I honestly did not like how the 10 speed shifted. Especially at slower speeds through town. It seemed to hunt for gears too much. The manual was so much more engaging to me. To each their own though.
Exactly my thoughts. I never thought I'd buy a manual car, but I ended up buying a manual 2021 mustang performance pack. 10 speed was hunting for gears too much
Same. I drove a 10 speed and the transmission felt like it was about to blow up. It would jerk the whole car when it shifted at slow speeds. Sport mode was un drivable
I've had a 18gt pp1 manual transmission sucked.. before I bought the car it only had 6800 miles on it 3rd and 5th were replaced. Those gears went out on me 4 months later.. bought another mt82 and after 6 months lost 5th. I sold that car to carmax got me a 10 speed and love it. Throw it in sport mode.. my only regret is not gettin one the first time. Car is reliable and a helluva lot quicker. This 10 speed stock with x pipe and borla atak muffler is faster than my pp1 manual that was catless headers jlt and lund tuned. I rather my transmission hunt gears than me lol.
I own a 2019 Z06 with the 7-speed manual. I realize the automatic is a tick faster, and I don't care. This car is still a monster, and the Tremec TR-6070 is very advanced, with auto rev-matching, the ability to do full-throttle power shifts, and very precise, smooth gates. To each his own.
I've asked a lot of people who own MT82 2018+ GT's and none of them have had any problems or complaints. These include two people who regularly track their car, along with a Steeda rep based on their experience with two of their race cars. Having said that I have a 2019 GT PP 10R80 and HATE the unresponsive paddle shifting. I'm seriously considering going back to a manual 2021 GT PP. EDIT: someone I know who has a 2013ish V6 (early MT82) said he hates it and often experiences the high rpm lockout. He has also installed a couple of aftermarket parts related to the shifter/shifting mechanism which is supposed to improve some of the MT82 issues.
Ive experienced the nightmare of an 18+ mt-82 d4. My 18 blew the trans so bad it cracked rhe motor and i somehow barely managed to get both replaced under warranty.
Just bought a 19 6speed 5.0 same options as yours, coming from a SS sedan cammed and e85 I’ll tell you the Mustang is quite smoother magna ride of course, and yes corsa for the win. 3.55 gears in the 5.0 feels great 👍🏽
2 weeks ago i got a 2020 GT premium 6 speed, and I couldn't've agree with you more! its not the fastest off the line but it sure is fun to drive, I sold a 2015 Charger RT for the GT and it was the best decision ever
I bought a Lighting Blue 17 Performance Pack manual.. It only had 1 owner, 8,909 miles on her last year.. I love this car.. He's soo right it sounds played out to go on about how much more fun the manuals are but they are.. He's also right about the DCT's and the 10 speeds too.. If I was going to do an auto sport car it would be a DCT for sure.. But God I am going to say it even with the dreaded MT82, There's nothing Like Rowing Your Own Gears.. And honestly the MT82 gets a Bad wrap, All I did was a Braided Clutch Line, Syncro shift 2, a Steeda Body Mount and it feels great to me now. There's a lot of guys happy with the stock power and the best part about the manuals is they are cheaper to fix when they go too.. But yeah the Manuals are fun and wild once turned up. Driving a manual car is becoming a lost art almost.. Save the manuals..
Have a 13 Mustang 5.0 with Manual, i really want the 18 5.0 10 Speed, i’m 21 and i’ve been driving manuals since i was 13 and i’m tired of it and i want to be fast 😂 but if you want a manual and you’re happy, i’m happy too 🔥🔥🔥
I know I'm 3 years late, but I 100% agree. There's more of an emotional/ mental connection with the stick compared to the paddles. Better connection to the car, more emotional feel, better engagement with the surroundings. Just freakin' cooler. Also, I'm sure that guys who drive a stick have higher testosterone levels. hahahaha! Mine's coming in a few months. Can't wait.
In my area there is only one dealer that consistently stocks any manual transmissions. The rest did searches with the criteria I wanted and basically told me I'd have to do a special order. Lucky for me I found one I was happy with at the one dealership that stocks a couple of them a year. The only thing it didn't have that I wanted was the active exhaust. Which isn't a deal breaker, it just allows me to pick one that I want. There are definitely fewer of them out there and will make them even more difficult to find in excellent condition down the road. I also agree with this guy that it makes driving it a more special exciting experience. I test drove an automatic and it was nice. It just didn't feel the same in the fun category to me.
Purchased a new 2022 GT 11/2022 with an automatic and yesterday 01/25/2023 I took delivery of a 2022 GT Premium MANUAL, just couldn't take the automatic as the previous Mustang 2017 was a manual, so I went for the automatic after reading all the hype of the automatic, but it couldn't suck enough. So this weekend the new manual is getting the fix up, cold air, X pipe, tune , It will be my Pleasure to drive this care shifting away.
personally I'll take the 10r80. I had a PP 2016 GT for 5 years and I did like it for about 4 years, and the thing that made me change was the VERY short gear ratios. Manual was fun, but it didn't really put a smile to my face like the automatic does. I also go on the highway a lot and traffic is a pain. At the end of the day though, what ever makes you smile more.
as true as i feel like my points were in this video, on a practical basis if i had the chance to go back and choose, id choose auto, manual had an amazing honeymoon type phase but got kinda eh after a year tbh
The Boomer in me wants a manual. The traffic stop and go makes me want. an Auto w/adaptive cruise. The latter is the rational choice, but I tend not to be rational..
@@caffeinatedmotors u fr? I see people wanting to go from auto to manual and now manual to auto lol i think im gonna trade my STI in for one i just don know if i want the manual or 10 speed
I'm a huge manuel guy and owned a 14 mustang gt in manuel. I'll tell u manuel is funner on a GOOD day but it will slowly start to get old overtime especially if it is your everyday car. I recently test drove the 10 speed and fell in love.
I had a 2017 scat pack, 6 speed, and I traded that in for a automatic hellcat, and I got bored of the hellcat so fast I told myself that I will never ever buy a automatic muscle car again. No I just ordered a 2023 six speed Mustang, GT and I can’t wait for it to come in
If you had said you bought it because it was faster I was going to call you a jerk but my hats off to you buddy. You just stated the only good reason to buy a manual in this day in age.
I Like Manuals Even Though I Don’t Know How To Drive One, It Looks Good, Big Fan Of The Shifter, If I Ever Bought A Manual, I’d Rebuild The MT82 AND Put A Short Shifter
You can be an enthusiast and still go an auto, I have a 6 speed 408ci ls. Sux to drive in traffic and is always fighting for traction, I love the way you can just stomp it and hold it down in the 10 speed, I love driving the mustang, shifts pretty good is race mode.
Looks like I'll be the only one in a million to like your comment. Yes, an "auto" driver can be an enthusiast. If we still get a sinister grin from ear to ear at the end of the day from "stomping" around in an automatic, what does it matter to anyone else.
I bought an 18 gt 6 speed almost a year ago and I love it! I got full borla catback, injen air intake and 85mm bbk throttle body installed so far and shorty headers in my room which should be installed in another month, mods have really opened it up.
I chose the auto because the shift forks were having troubles. I also like the auto-start feature here in Arizona to get the AC running before I get to the car. Sometimes I miss shifting but not enough to trade her in. If I did it would be for the GT350.
The auto's are faster but to trade off of gear searching and a very unrefined ride quality. So much that when I first test drove one it was an auto and it almost put me off the car completely. Then I drove the 6 speed. Way way better car not to mention the fun factor that goes along with it. Six speed all day - good choice man and sweet looking ride.
MANUAL is much better in my opinion, because you can shift smoothly better then the 10-speed and over all fun to cruise around with and at the end its gonna be rare to find a 6-speed manual in 10-20 years from now, i myself waiting on the all new 2024 mustang, what do you think should i go for the new or just buy the 2023 5.0 mustang?
They are quiet when left stock.. But do the X pipe or H pipe and a high flow Axle Back and you can add another 20 HP to the car too but it will mostly just sound better.. Long tubes will add another 20 HP to these cars too.. But these cars get nasty with boost and the money snowballs fast as hell once you boost them..
It’s what you want to do with the car. If you’re not racing it everyday and don’t care about being the fastest, or don’t care about either, then honestly try the manual.. Keep watching videos of each and see which appeals more. I’m getting my first manual 2019 mustang gt next year hopefully. I plan to put a hellion twin turbo on it too so manual is better for that
@@FYMM69 in general automatics are faster than stick shifts, it would be gay asf to have an eco boost mustang, those are the dudes that have estrogen in their body
It appears people that state the "unresponsiveness" nonsense have driven a Non-PP1 GT 10R80, a PP1 GT 10R80 in any mode but "Track Mode", or have not driven a 10R80 mustang at all. The 10R80 uses adaptive shift speed and line pressures based off of variables such as the mode, trq requested, and speed. I am sure that it can be made to shift at full speed and pressure all the time with some tuning, however, that would be a not so great daily. Track mode bangs gear at WOT pretty damn fast with the paddles, and is the only mode that does from MOE. I have had both in the S550 chasis, and anyone that says the 10R80 "ONLY is for the dragstrip" doesn't have a clue, and if you on a PP1 with 10R80 saying it then you need to really drive your car!
macace21 I had an 18 10 speed auto full spec’d out with PP1 and those paddle shifters in all modes took its sweet ass time. Upshifts took half a second and downshifts could take up to a whole second when pressed. It’s super unresponsive compared to the zf autos and dual clutches in cars today. Sure if you leave it in auto it works nicely but manually controlled whether in sport normal or track the thing takes forever
I will agree with this, but then again in comparison there are many examples of how to setup ZF shift strategies while the 10R80 is rather new and limited to a much smaller performance base. Shift strategies should only get faster with time and performance renditions.
I bought a manual 22 mustang GT in January, and ever since then there has always been someone who wants to race me. Not that I’m necessarily looking for it. lol
I'm currently struggling with the decision on whether to get a manual or auto. I feel like I would prefer the manual 90% of the time. The other 10% would be getting beat by an auto car 😢
With the MGW, if you get the “low profile” handle then the stock shift knob will not fit! Just went through this with my 19 GT. Btw don’t get the Barton, the MGW is 10x better!
Ima get mine in an auto cause I think that’s more fun u can just slam down gas and have fun not having to worry about changing gears just my opinion tho
Your theory on your car depreciating less because it’s a manual is wrong. Only about 4% of new cars are sold as manuals and less then 15% of people know how to drive them, most of them being truck drivers. They sit on the lot for so long until the rotors are rusted and trashed. I worked at a dealer and these are impossible to sell unless you get lowballed.
Couldn't have made a better video for transmission choice. Like my dad said when he taught me how to drive....you RIDE in cars with a automatic but you DRIVE a car with a manual and REAL CAR GUYS DRIVE THEIR CARS.
Interesting that in your circle people are telling you to get the 10 speed. I picked up the 2021 GT this year and everyone I told said I should have gotten the manual lol. Both have their pros and cons, no wrong choice imo.
If you have a mustang 18+ manual first upgrades you need and its a must is 4.09 gears, mmr lightweight pulley and intake with tune if its on warranty go with ford performance calibration and thank me later. Don’t waste money on stupid mods, the car become more enjoyable on daily drive and ready to race. Don’t forget these to make the engine healthy (Reische 170 thermostat, JLT catch can)
btw mt82 sucks because the shifter is linked to chassis instead of the tranny itself, make it harzardous when shifting, and when you do aggresive pull the chassis twisting+ wheel hop don't help, a better short shifter will make it great
Well a ten speed will whoop a manual but the fun and driving experience of a manual anything is awesome I went with ten speed because I’m trying to get as fast as possible but manuals are fun for sure
I’m looking forward to eventually getting a S550 GT with a manual I would really like the manual but traffic probably gonna negate getting an automatic. I don’t know. We’ll see. I will tell you this though the new mustang the 2024 I really hate that rear end and the iPad dash so it’s gonna be 23 or earlier with the analog gauges. I sure love that orange color.
So how did the Steeda spring work out for you? Does it have a lighter clutch feel? Curious since I'm trying to make a choice of manual vs auto on a upcoming purchase! Thanks!
I daily drive a Toyota Camry. I want to get a manual mustang to switch things up. I want a premium but, the kind of things I got planned for it. It would make more sense to get a used base manual mustang.
I couldn't agree more. When I was shopping my 5.0 I was up in the air to what I wanted. The automatic I test drove - drove like shit in my opinion. Searching for gears and just very unrefined feeling for an automatic. I drove the auto first before driving the manual. It almost put me off the 5.0 all together the automatic was so bad. In the end I ended up buying a six speed 2020 premium with 7k miles on it and 20 inch wheels, white and digital dash. Couldn't be happier !!
I drive a base focus 5 speed right now. I want to upgrade to a 6 speed mustang. I believe if I had the powershift focus I'd hate it and my focus takes e85. I need a mustang on flex tune.
There are no "hassles" with driving a manual and anyone who says they cannot daily one is just stupid. After a while, driving stick becomes second nature like breathing or blinking your eyes. Anyone who has driven manual can agree.
The issue with the MT-82 generally lies in the shift linkage (not being especially robust/rigid) and the underlying bracketing. The MT-82 has the shifter mounted directly to the chassis via the transmission tunnel. Under hard acceleration/rpm and load, the engine and transmission twist under the torque of the engine (this is normal to an extent on every car), however most manual transmissions (for high powered cars) mount the shifter and linkage directly to the transmission, not the chassis like the mustang's design. This means the transmission moves and twists, but the shifter and linkage doesn’t move with it since it’s bolted to the chassis directly. This leads to an inconsistent shifter feel, grinding, high rpm lockout, and all those other things you hear about in the forums. Add the scenario of driver at a drag strip trying to shift aggressively and quickly to a shifter design that doesn’t like to be hurried and you have a recipe for complaints and issues. It's a shame Ford dont put the Tremec into the standard GT's
I would have probably got a manual version of my car, but they are trash in the gt and so unreliable I wouldn't choose the manual over the auto, thats another reason I'd rather have the 10spd, I had a challenger 392 with the 6spd it was fun, but this 10spd just puts a bigger smile on my face honestly, I don't believe I losing that much of the fun factor honestly
I been driving a manual cobra and I wish I got something faster…. Idk being slow and getting gapped even if you catch up…. Sorta makes me wish I got the GT500 dct
I want a 2019 and up gt premium pp1 6 speed with active exhaust, digital gauges and magneride. I'd throw on a h pipe instead of the x pipe tho and maybe some long tube headers. Nice ride btw
In your year I totally disagree the 18 and 19s are only faster then previous year mustangs in the 10 r80. I wish now I would have gotten a 6 speed in my s197 but my 10r80 was great at shifting. I only use my car to race I daily a new ranger with the 10 speed and everyday my ranger makes me miss my pp1 10 speed. The 6r80 is a good trans but the gear ratio is to long to make me happy. The 10 speeds pull and pull threw out all the gears. I’m happy my wife and I have 10 speeds the raptor 10 speed in her truck is crazy in put in sport or Baja mode. I’m to old to say sticks are drivers cars I drove sticks all my life and to me I don’t need the headaches in traffic.
I had a manual in my 2014, it was more fun to drive, but I'm also a retired old guy and drove many manuals I had to learn to drive on one and was afraid what happens if I stall while taking my road test. My first and second pickups were sticks & never like it when you could no longer get a full-size pickup truck with a stick. The new Mustang GT I went with the Auto, now I don't have to from the little lady we have to use her car. She would always say what if something happened and I got sick we wouldn't get home since she could not drive a stick (she didn't want to learn) I missed the stick at first. But the auto is nice in traffic jams and that was when my 14 was no fun to drive, now with the auto I don't get frustrated, I can enjoy the radio and figure out the all the gadgets this new GT has. This GT is the premium and that is worth getting as the 14 was a base, it's just much nicer. Also, if I'm still driving in 10 years hopefully, I wonder if I really want to be driving a stick, but if I was still young, I'll get the stick. Anyone looking to buy a use GT should look for an old guy or lady selling one, since I don't beat on the car and you probably will get a low mileage well taken care of GT, there is probably a lot of us that will be selling in the future when we get our new GT walker with a racing stripe going down the bar.
Ok everyone I’ve been doing research for the better part of 4 months on this stuff and the 6 speed auto is the most reliable trans that comes with a 15-17 mustang and the 10 speed is still more reliable than the manual even though mechanically it’s shit the manual transmission is probably the worst way you can go unless you just want to have a fun kinda quick weekend car that’s manual
People who still buy manual today are just stuck in their way. They like rowing gears themselves too much. I could never buy a manual when the speed difference is too high like 6 speed vs 10 speed.
1:26 obviously the corvettes gonna destroy it, the mustang and the corvette aren’t even in the same league. A mid engine sports car vs a front engine coupe. Smh 🤦🏾♂️
i just bought a 2022 mustang gt s550 afew mounths ago i regret not getting the manual trans but they jump off the dealer lot quicker then the automatics :(
I bought a 2020 Mustang GT with the PP1 in the manual. So much fun. The most fun you can have with your clothes on!
Seeing you cruise so smoothly with the manual is making the decision pretty easy for me 🤙
A manual trans these days are truly for the enthusiast's who want that one to one driving experience, definitely not for everyone, but like you mentioned it's just not all about how fast you can go in a straight line. I had a 15' GT/PP mustang and never had an issue with the stock manual trans in the 4 years I had it, now in a 19' GT350 it just got better.
Enjoy your manual as it's just a much more engaging driving experience.
The GT350 gets the Tremec T56. Although the MT82 isn’t actually as problematic as many people think. From what I’ve read, the issue really lies in the stock clutch Ford used.
@@watersnortmoment3734the gt350 gets a tremac 3160 I thought
I just got the 2020 model and what I love the most is when you downshift listening to those revs, people is always staring at you haha
best part about the manual is the rev match it never gets old
Yo how is the transmission holding on?
You can do that same thing with the paddle shifters in the 10 speed
Ooooooh is that twister orange?
Exactly, its great
You have hit the nail on the head with this video. "Fun to drive, always be special and make you smile". I love that. I mean, why are you buying one of these cars in the first place if its not for all that?!
I would never change a manual for an automatic, dont care how faster the automatic is
Hellll yeah bro💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 SAVE THE MANUALS!!!!!!!
Yeah I ain’t gonna lie, I don’t want a automatic anymore bro. Shit makes me feel lame
I would only if they come with a supercharger or a turbo setup and a dct transmission, otherwise im sticking with the manual, mustang are fun cars to drive, not super cars to race, i wouldnt take a bmw m4 or m8 manual tho.
I mean if you’re building a race car then auto is the move now, but other than that manual is just better
Nope, I would keep my stick as well.
My last car was a BMW M2 with the DCT transmission. A fine car but the involvement was slightly lacking. Purchased a 2023 Mustang GT with a 6 speed transmission. Just as fast but more enjoyable. If the car is just for yourself and you enjoy drives on the weekend, a manual shifting transmission restores the involvement and integration. It so nice reliving the late 60's vibe.
I just test drove an automatic GT performance pack and a manual GT performance pack, back to back. I’ll take the manual all day, every day. I honestly did not like how the 10 speed shifted. Especially at slower speeds through town. It seemed to hunt for gears too much. The manual was so much more engaging to me. To each their own though.
Exactly my thoughts. I never thought I'd buy a manual car, but I ended up buying a manual 2021 mustang performance pack. 10 speed was hunting for gears too much
Same. I drove a 10 speed and the transmission felt like it was about to blow up. It would jerk the whole car when it shifted at slow speeds. Sport mode was un drivable
I've had a 18gt pp1 manual transmission sucked.. before I bought the car it only had 6800 miles on it 3rd and 5th were replaced. Those gears went out on me 4 months later.. bought another mt82 and after 6 months lost 5th. I sold that car to carmax got me a 10 speed and love it. Throw it in sport mode.. my only regret is not gettin one the first time. Car is reliable and a helluva lot quicker. This 10 speed stock with x pipe and borla atak muffler is faster than my pp1 manual that was catless headers jlt and lund tuned. I rather my transmission hunt gears than me lol.
I love driving my six speed,Im driving the car,the car is not driving me!
Plus the sound going up thru the gears is the best driving exp.!
I own a 2019 Z06 with the 7-speed manual. I realize the automatic is a tick faster, and I don't care. This car is still a monster, and the Tremec TR-6070 is very advanced, with auto rev-matching, the ability to do full-throttle power shifts, and very precise, smooth gates. To each his own.
Paul Scarpelli I’d kill to have a tremec in my 5.0
@@caffeinatedmotors any problems with the MT82?
@@xanderbeck7095same problems ford has had for 10 years and done little about.
Mexico has really come a long way.
I've asked a lot of people who own MT82 2018+ GT's and none of them have had any problems or complaints. These include two people who regularly track their car, along with a Steeda rep based on their experience with two of their race cars. Having said that I have a 2019 GT PP 10R80 and HATE the unresponsive paddle shifting. I'm seriously considering going back to a manual 2021 GT PP.
EDIT: someone I know who has a 2013ish V6 (early MT82) said he hates it and often experiences the high rpm lockout. He has also installed a couple of aftermarket parts related to the shifter/shifting mechanism which is supposed to improve some of the MT82 issues.
I bought a 2021 manual GT PP1 and no problems yet. Loving it so far.
Because it needs a more solid shifter bracket.
My 18 manual a nightmare im glad I switch to a 10speed
Ive experienced the nightmare of an 18+ mt-82 d4. My 18 blew the trans so bad it cracked rhe motor and i somehow barely managed to get both replaced under warranty.
Automatics may be faster but the 6 speed is for the experience 😎
💯🤙
At the end of the day wether you get a manual or a automatic they're both awesome cars.
nunzio rose Agreed
Sounds like a excuse
If you can’t drive one just say it.
@@62nichols94 I have a manual so I can't say it lol
Just bought a 19 6speed 5.0 same options as yours, coming from a SS sedan cammed and e85 I’ll tell you the Mustang is quite smoother magna ride of course, and yes corsa for the win. 3.55 gears in the 5.0 feels great 👍🏽
2 weeks ago i got a 2020 GT premium 6 speed, and I couldn't've agree with you more! its not the fastest off the line but it sure is fun to drive, I sold a 2015 Charger RT for the GT and it was the best decision ever
OMG, the dog is begging the owner not to put him in Mustang because the speed scares him. LOL.
I bought a Lighting Blue 17 Performance Pack manual.. It only had 1 owner, 8,909 miles on her last year.. I love this car.. He's soo right it sounds played out to go on about how much more fun the manuals are but they are.. He's also right about the DCT's and the 10 speeds too.. If I was going to do an auto sport car it would be a DCT for sure.. But God I am going to say it even with the dreaded MT82, There's nothing Like Rowing Your Own Gears.. And honestly the MT82 gets a Bad wrap, All I did was a Braided Clutch Line, Syncro shift 2, a Steeda Body Mount and it feels great to me now. There's a lot of guys happy with the stock power and the best part about the manuals is they are cheaper to fix when they go too.. But yeah the Manuals are fun and wild once turned up. Driving a manual car is becoming a lost art almost.. Save the manuals..
Have a 13 Mustang 5.0 with Manual, i really want the 18 5.0 10 Speed, i’m 21 and i’ve been driving manuals since i was 13 and i’m tired of it and i want to be fast 😂 but if you want a manual and you’re happy, i’m happy too 🔥🔥🔥
I know I'm 3 years late, but I 100% agree. There's more of an emotional/ mental connection with the stick compared to the paddles. Better connection to the car, more emotional feel, better engagement with the surroundings. Just freakin' cooler. Also, I'm sure that guys who drive a stick have higher testosterone levels. hahahaha! Mine's coming in a few months. Can't wait.
In my area there is only one dealer that consistently stocks any manual transmissions. The rest did searches with the criteria I wanted and basically told me I'd have to do a special order. Lucky for me I found one I was happy with at the one dealership that stocks a couple of them a year. The only thing it didn't have that I wanted was the active exhaust. Which isn't a deal breaker, it just allows me to pick one that I want. There are definitely fewer of them out there and will make them even more difficult to find in excellent condition down the road. I also agree with this guy that it makes driving it a more special exciting experience. I test drove an automatic and it was nice. It just didn't feel the same in the fun category to me.
I think you made the right decision going with a manual. Nice car!! -2014 GT track pack owner (6spd of course).
Purchased a new 2022 GT 11/2022 with an automatic and yesterday 01/25/2023 I took delivery of a 2022 GT Premium MANUAL,
just couldn't take the automatic as the previous Mustang 2017 was a manual, so I went for the automatic after reading all the hype of the automatic, but it couldn't suck enough.
So this weekend the new manual is getting the fix up, cold air, X pipe, tune , It will be my Pleasure to drive this care shifting away.
personally I'll take the 10r80. I had a PP 2016 GT for 5 years and I did like it for about 4 years, and the thing that made me change was the VERY short gear ratios. Manual was fun, but it didn't really put a smile to my face like the automatic does. I also go on the highway a lot and traffic is a pain. At the end of the day though, what ever makes you smile more.
as true as i feel like my points were in this video, on a practical basis if i had the chance to go back and choose, id choose auto, manual had an amazing honeymoon type phase but got kinda eh after a year tbh
@@caffeinatedmotors Hey man, has the MT82 given you any trouble?
@@caffeinatedmotors y don’t u make vids anymore?
The Boomer in me wants a manual. The traffic stop and go makes me want. an Auto w/adaptive cruise. The latter is the rational choice, but I tend not to be rational..
@@caffeinatedmotors u fr? I see people wanting to go from auto to manual and now manual to auto lol i think im gonna trade my STI in for one i just don know if i want the manual or 10 speed
Thanks for tellin it like it is bro
Finally a regular dude not fronting about “racing” etc
Go with what makes you happy🤜🏽🤛🏻
Kid is speaking from the heart, and you know what…. He is fucking right! 👏🏼
Why did the gauges and door handle turn red when you revved it up? @4:50?
I'm a huge manuel guy and owned a 14 mustang gt in manuel. I'll tell u manuel is funner on a GOOD day but it will slowly start to get old overtime especially if it is your everyday car. I recently test drove the 10 speed and fell in love.
I had a 2017 scat pack, 6 speed, and I traded that in for a automatic hellcat, and I got bored of the hellcat so fast I told myself that I will never ever buy a automatic muscle car again. No I just ordered a 2023 six speed Mustang, GT and I can’t wait for it to come in
Those streets are perfect to send it on love that view btw
Im finally ready to afford a muscle car but 12.6 vs 12.1 quarter mile is an insane difference. And i REALLY want a manual.
🔥🔥 10 speed for drag racing the manual for fun
Determined Veteran very true, but i never go to the strip
White Stallion even if you’re amazing at shifting, no most likely not unfortunately
If you had said you bought it because it was faster I was going to call you a jerk but my hats off to you buddy. You just stated the only good reason to buy a manual in this day in age.
I Like Manuals Even Though I Don’t Know How To Drive One, It Looks Good, Big Fan Of The Shifter, If I Ever Bought A Manual, I’d Rebuild The MT82 AND Put A Short Shifter
Johnny Jayy That’s my plan
Thanks for the info I like shifting gears my first car was a manual and I loved it.
You can be an enthusiast and still go an auto, I have a 6 speed 408ci ls. Sux to drive in traffic and is always fighting for traction, I love the way you can just stomp it and hold it down in the 10 speed, I love driving the mustang, shifts pretty good is race mode.
Looks like I'll be the only one in a million to like your comment. Yes, an "auto" driver can be an enthusiast. If we still get a sinister grin from ear to ear at the end of the day from "stomping" around in an automatic, what does it matter to anyone else.
I totally agree, I chose the 6 speed also, because I love to shift
I bought an 18 gt 6 speed almost a year ago and I love it! I got full borla catback, injen air intake and 85mm bbk throttle body installed so far and shorty headers in my room which should be installed in another month, mods have really opened it up.
To have an automatic muscle is stupid. If you are going to get a muscle car or a sports car. A manual transmission is the way to go.
Save the manual!
Patrick Woolbright yes sir 😎
I chose the auto because the shift forks were having troubles. I also like the auto-start feature here in Arizona to get the AC running before I get to the car. Sometimes I miss shifting but not enough to trade her in. If I did it would be for the GT350.
Randi Ruge And that’s fine, I was just talking in terms of why it’s better for me personally
@@caffeinatedmotors and I did trade it in for the 2021 Mach 1 manual. So much more fun to drive.
The auto's are faster but to trade off of gear searching and a very unrefined ride quality. So much that when I first test drove one it was an auto and it almost put me off the car completely. Then I drove the 6 speed. Way way better car not to mention the fun factor that goes along with it. Six speed all day - good choice man and sweet looking ride.
Had a motorcycle my whole life. Just got a 2016 6-speed love it👌🏾👌🏾
I had. A ninja 400. Friend totaled it
@@GulpMeUp pain my friend :( I feel for you…
@@victorglaze52 lol it’s okay. I’m looking at an R6 but I might get a car
MANUAL is much better in my opinion, because you can shift smoothly better then the 10-speed and over all fun to cruise around with and at the end its gonna be rare to find a 6-speed manual in 10-20 years from now, i myself waiting on the all new 2024 mustang, what do you think should i go for the new or just buy the 2023 5.0 mustang?
What did you decide on?
Doesn't the Mustang GT manual transmission break easier though?
The older ones 2015-19
Automatic if your sensors go out then would you want a 6k repair 👨🔧?!?
They are quiet when left stock.. But do the X pipe or H pipe and a high flow Axle Back and you can add another 20 HP to the car too but it will mostly just sound better.. Long tubes will add another 20 HP to these cars too.. But these cars get nasty with boost and the money snowballs fast as hell once you boost them..
I’m going to get a manual 5.0 even though idk how to drive one, and I will only race other manuals. Skill vs skill, instead of car vs car.
GoPro was a definite improvement. Much sharper image, well worth the investment.
i’m still deciding whether i should get a standard or an automatic, someone help me out 😿
same
It’s what you want to do with the car. If you’re not racing it everyday and don’t care about being the fastest, or don’t care about either, then honestly try the manual..
Keep watching videos of each and see which appeals more. I’m getting my first manual 2019 mustang gt next year hopefully. I plan to put a hellion twin turbo on it too so manual is better for that
10 speed 100% just switch from manual
Testosterone/manual
Estrogen/automatic 😀
@@FYMM69 in general automatics are faster than stick shifts, it would be gay asf to have an eco boost mustang, those are the dudes that have estrogen in their body
Even if the Mustang had a dual clutch, I'd go manual. 3 pedals or you ain't really driving.
It appears people that state the "unresponsiveness" nonsense have driven a Non-PP1 GT 10R80, a PP1 GT 10R80 in any mode but "Track Mode", or have not driven a 10R80 mustang at all. The 10R80 uses adaptive shift speed and line pressures based off of variables such as the mode, trq requested, and speed. I am sure that it can be made to shift at full speed and pressure all the time with some tuning, however, that would be a not so great daily. Track mode bangs gear at WOT pretty damn fast with the paddles, and is the only mode that does from MOE. I have had both in the S550 chasis, and anyone that says the 10R80 "ONLY is for the dragstrip" doesn't have a clue, and if you on a PP1 with 10R80 saying it then you need to really drive your car!
macace21 I had an 18 10 speed auto full spec’d out with PP1 and those paddle shifters in all modes took its sweet ass time. Upshifts took half a second and downshifts could take up to a whole second when pressed. It’s super unresponsive compared to the zf autos and dual clutches in cars today. Sure if you leave it in auto it works nicely but manually controlled whether in sport normal or track the thing takes forever
Now with tuning sure, but you shouldnt need to lose your warranty to shift fast manually
I will agree with this, but then again in comparison there are many examples of how to setup ZF shift strategies while the 10R80 is rather new and limited to a much smaller performance base. Shift strategies should only get faster with time and performance renditions.
I bought a manual 22 mustang GT in January, and ever since then there has always been someone who wants to race me. Not that I’m necessarily looking for it. lol
I'm currently struggling with the decision on whether to get a manual or auto. I feel like I would prefer the manual 90% of the time. The other 10% would be getting beat by an auto car 😢
MGW makes the manual truly a pleasure to operate
I’d like to be the one in control with that kind of power
With the MGW, if you get the “low profile” handle then the stock shift knob will not fit! Just went through this with my 19 GT. Btw don’t get the Barton, the MGW is 10x better!
Dylan Taylor I def will not buy a barton, but thanks for letting me know :)
4.56 gears will make the stick as fast as the auto, and maybe faster. But you will spin the engine more on the freeway.
Ima get mine in an auto cause I think that’s more fun u can just slam down gas and have fun not having to worry about changing gears just my opinion tho
I want an exact copy of your spec, bro. Just saving up that cash now. Best choice for the manual.
Your theory on your car depreciating less because it’s a manual is wrong. Only about 4% of new cars are sold as manuals and less then 15% of people know how to drive them, most of them being truck drivers. They sit on the lot for so long until the rotors are rusted and trashed. I worked at a dealer and these are impossible to sell unless you get lowballed.
Couldn't have made a better video for transmission choice. Like my dad said when he taught me how to drive....you RIDE in cars with a automatic but you DRIVE a car with a manual and REAL CAR GUYS DRIVE THEIR CARS.
Interesting that in your circle people are telling you to get the 10 speed. I picked up the 2021 GT this year and everyone I told said I should have gotten the manual lol. Both have their pros and cons, no wrong choice imo.
No matter what you get people will be saying you shoulda coulda woulda
If you have a mustang 18+ manual first upgrades you need and its a must is 4.09 gears, mmr lightweight pulley and intake with tune if its on warranty go with ford performance calibration and thank me later. Don’t waste money on stupid mods, the car become more enjoyable on daily drive and ready to race.
Don’t forget these to make the engine healthy (Reische 170 thermostat, JLT catch can)
btw mt82 sucks because the shifter is linked to chassis instead of the tranny itself, make it harzardous when shifting, and when you do aggresive pull the chassis twisting+ wheel hop don't help, a better short shifter will make it great
The 10 speed is so fast compared to the 6 speed honestly.
They are both super fun though.
True! I walk 6 speeds
I have a hellcat at the moment and I really want to get a mustang but I don’t know if the transmission will act up
Well a ten speed will whoop a manual but the fun and driving experience of a manual anything is awesome I went with ten speed because I’m trying to get as fast as possible but manuals are fun for sure
Can’t wait for the corsa sport video 😀. Subbed ☝️✊
Kevin Raghunandan thanks for the sub! unfortunately the corsas might be some months away tbh, im a broke college student
2024 gt dark horse has tremec. Should have made standard for all trim.
I’m looking forward to eventually getting a S550 GT with a manual I would really like the manual but traffic probably gonna negate getting an automatic. I don’t know. We’ll see. I will tell you this though the new mustang the 2024 I really hate that rear end and the iPad dash so it’s gonna be 23 or earlier with the analog gauges. I sure love that orange color.
I have a 2021 mustang automatic, I wanted to trade it for manual but sadly I don't know how to drive one and there is no one to train me.
No thanks, drove a 6speed for 7 years non-stop. Its great to put it in auto and drive it during traffic.
So how did the Steeda spring work out for you? Does it have a lighter clutch feel? Curious since I'm trying to make a choice of manual vs auto on a upcoming purchase! Thanks!
I daily drive a Toyota Camry. I want to get a manual mustang to switch things up. I want a premium but, the kind of things I got planned for it. It would make more sense to get a used base manual mustang.
BigOG TT base mustang is the way to go tbh unless u have too much money lmao
Manual because engine braking instead of just relying solely on smashing the brake pedal like a barbarian
I have the 10 speed on mine. It's shit. It's a miserable car to drive around town due to the clunkiness of it and all of the gear hunting it does.
I couldn't agree more. When I was shopping my 5.0 I was up in the air to what I wanted. The automatic I test drove - drove like shit in my opinion. Searching for gears and just very unrefined feeling for an automatic. I drove the auto first before driving the manual. It almost put me off the 5.0 all together the automatic was so bad. In the end I ended up buying a six speed 2020 premium with 7k miles on it and 20 inch wheels, white and digital dash. Couldn't be happier !!
I drive a base focus 5 speed right now. I want to upgrade to a 6 speed mustang. I believe if I had the powershift focus I'd hate it and my focus takes e85. I need a mustang on flex tune.
I hear a lot of bad things about the MT 82. Can you share your experience or other folks chime in.
There are no "hassles" with driving a manual and anyone who says they cannot daily one is just stupid. After a while, driving stick becomes second nature like breathing or blinking your eyes. Anyone who has driven manual can agree.
How damning is the transmission on these cars? I hear a ton of bad things but this car in manual is literally my dream car
The issue with the MT-82 generally lies in the shift linkage (not being especially robust/rigid) and the underlying bracketing. The MT-82 has the shifter mounted directly to the chassis via the transmission tunnel. Under hard acceleration/rpm and load, the engine and transmission twist under the torque of the engine (this is normal to an extent on every car), however most manual transmissions (for high powered cars) mount the shifter and linkage directly to the transmission, not the chassis like the mustang's design. This means the transmission moves and twists, but the shifter and linkage doesn’t move with it since it’s bolted to the chassis directly.
This leads to an inconsistent shifter feel, grinding, high rpm lockout, and all those other things you hear about in the forums. Add the scenario of driver at a drag strip trying to shift aggressively and quickly to a shifter design that doesn’t like to be hurried and you have a recipe for complaints and issues.
It's a shame Ford dont put the Tremec into the standard GT's
How long did it take them to build it?
I would have probably got a manual version of my car, but they are trash in the gt and so unreliable I wouldn't choose the manual over the auto, thats another reason I'd rather have the 10spd, I had a challenger 392 with the 6spd it was fun, but this 10spd just puts a bigger smile on my face honestly, I don't believe I losing that much of the fun factor honestly
Hii group, do you recomend to me to buy this Mustang... 2015 MUSTANG
I have a spec’d out 10spd 19’ pp1 and fuck that 1000hp vette, it wont stand a chance when I put a vmp supercharger in my car. 10spd will kill it.
I been driving a manual cobra and I wish I got something faster…. Idk being slow and getting gapped even if you catch up….
Sorta makes me wish I got the GT500 dct
I blew my 3rd and 4th gear shift forks within 1 month of owning my 2018 😭
I cant imagine having an automatic sports car sounds boring asfk
Manuel for the real driver
Is your go pro on wide view or super wide?
I want a 2019 and up gt premium pp1 6 speed with active exhaust, digital gauges and magneride. I'd throw on a h pipe instead of the x pipe tho and maybe some long tube headers. Nice ride btw
I like standard transmission to a lot better. But went with 10 speed automatic cause my wife has bad back and it’s hard for her to drive a standard.
Mustang 73 that’s perfectly fine! 10 speed’s great
In your year I totally disagree the 18 and 19s are only faster then previous year mustangs in the 10 r80. I wish now I would have gotten a 6 speed in my s197 but my 10r80 was great at shifting. I only use my car to race I daily a new ranger with the 10 speed and everyday my ranger makes me miss my pp1 10 speed. The 6r80 is a good trans but the gear ratio is to long to make me happy. The 10 speeds pull and pull threw out all the gears. I’m happy my wife and I have 10 speeds the raptor 10 speed in her truck is crazy in put in sport or Baja mode. I’m to old to say sticks are drivers cars I drove sticks all my life and to me I don’t need the headaches in traffic.
Underfedcoyote 5.0 I do definitely miss the 10 speed, I just wish ford put DCT’s in mustangs
I had a manual in my 2014, it was more fun to drive, but I'm also a retired old guy and drove many manuals I had to learn to drive on one and was afraid what happens if I stall while taking my road test. My first and second pickups were sticks & never like it when you could no longer get a full-size pickup truck with a stick. The new Mustang GT I went with the Auto, now I don't have to from the little lady we have to use her car. She would always say what if something happened and I got sick we wouldn't get home since she could not drive a stick (she didn't want to learn) I missed the stick at first. But the auto is nice in traffic jams and that was when my 14 was no fun to drive, now with the auto I don't get frustrated, I can enjoy the radio and figure out the all the gadgets this new GT has. This GT is the premium and that is worth getting as the 14 was a base, it's just much nicer. Also, if I'm still driving in 10 years hopefully, I wonder if I really want to be driving a stick, but if I was still young, I'll get the stick. Anyone looking to buy a use GT should look for an old guy or lady selling one, since I don't beat on the car and you probably will get a low mileage well taken care of GT, there is probably a lot of us that will be selling in the future when we get our new GT walker with a racing stripe going down the bar.
Get the Barton hybrid 3 shifter! Best one ever made for any S550 😎
Ok everyone I’ve been doing research for the better part of 4 months on this stuff and the 6 speed auto is the most reliable trans that comes with a 15-17 mustang and the 10 speed is still more reliable than the manual even though mechanically it’s shit the manual transmission is probably the worst way you can go unless you just want to have a fun kinda quick weekend car that’s manual
What kind of mount you using to hold your go pro? Good angle on the In car drive.
Underfedcoyote 5.0 It’s a gopro brand mount i got at ebay alongside getting the gopro itself
People who still buy manual today are just stuck in their way. They like rowing gears themselves too much. I could never buy a manual when the speed difference is too high like 6 speed vs 10 speed.
Or it’s because the manual is actually fun? I’ve never driven one yet but I can see the difference easily here on TH-cam.
1:26 obviously the corvettes gonna destroy it, the mustang and the corvette aren’t even in the same league. A mid engine sports car vs a front engine coupe. Smh 🤦🏾♂️
I just bought the 2022, traded my 2019. And I agree, manual is just fun to drive, I don't and will not race mine.
i just bought a 2022 mustang gt s550 afew mounths ago i regret not getting the manual trans but they jump off the dealer lot quicker then the automatics :(