The Ampero 2 Stage has a disadvantage when it comes to splitting 2 outputs to one with Cab/IR and one without, it doesn’t leave much room for other effects in the chain. The cool thing if one wants it, are parallel effects. Amp models and drives are not bad in the Mooer, can also load custom profiles into it, but their Cab’s/IR’s are most probably not on pair, they do support 3rth party IR’s tough. The thing I like the most with the drives on Mooer units is their EQ, instead of just getting a tone knob all drives have a 3 band EQ regardless of the original stompbox version. One cool thing with the GE1000 is that they finally added an output mixer. The Ampero 2 seems to have better delays and reverbs though, like one can mix more in of them before they sound to much. To be honest though, I really like the NUX Amp Academy amps with custom IR’s though, so considering to get the Ampero 2 Stomp if all effects have a dry mix knob, mainly because of it havin a ToneBender, and chain it via the 4 cable method, should leave a tad more resources for other effects in the chain, since all these new cheap multi fx products seem to be plagued by lack of hardware resources. I wish BOSS would come with a smaller version of the GX1000, since I only need the effects, a dry mix on all effects, parallel fx, the ability to have more than one drive in the chain and an fx loop, thing is going to sit on a rackshelf, no shoegazing here. Maybe not the most exotic effects in 2024, but they do their job, plus that BOSS’s own Fuzz sounds pretty radd too. Never had or seen any of their boards go hairwire either.
Just had a deeper look over the Ampero 2 specs, no dry/wet mix knob on most of the effects. 🙁 So for my demands the GT-1000 Core seems to be the best option.
Can live witout updates👌. In the end, this is all about the music and sound (not the computers, updates, programms, an little improvements in every next update, - like in phone). We hav forgot, that our old analog pealboard never has update of the soft ,a nd stil rocks 😊
@@raiviste4187Updates are essential for this type of units as they provide new amps, cabs and effects. Sometimes even new features and functions. It's way more than simple bug fixes (which if you're using a similar unit for playing live is also essential).
I was just saying recently this would be ideal: big enough to have several channels via footswitches + vol/wah, yet not battleship size, ability to capture (not seeing capture instructions in the manual but I'm not familiar with mooer's GE Labs); nice touch screen/visual display; around $500; nice stock amp list; XLR outs. Only other negative might be if it doesn't have some bass amps (not seeing any in the manual), but everything else checks out! Definitely on my radar. Can someone answer - can this thing capture or not?
idk. its pretty standard w/ a few small unique changes. UI looks great but sound other than the IR sounded really muffled. Im sure it can be adapted which is of course the point. To be used more as a creativity tool. like the rechargeable feature. Price is good but theres a lot of other affordable pedals around as well. Good review. Mooer is def a promising multi-effect builder.
16:37 That feature is a game changer for me, happens the same on line 6 Pod Go, if you turn off IR block on different outs, everything before that is disabled by the system. Kinda sucks
Be nice to have a GE300 equivalent to this, maybe minus the synthesiser? I guess this and the wireless foot switch would be similar, but knowing me, I would loose/break/forget the foot switch. A Boss GX1000 would also be nice, but that's a whole other thing.....
Unrelated to this vid, but do you think the ToneX could capture the sound of a Lichtlaerm Medusa into a modern high gain amp to get a modern tight chainsaw tone without having an additional pedal?
So here's the big question in my head about this. I just bought myself a guitar, and I'm waiting on a Kemper Profiler Player purchase (thomann is out of stock, it'll be out in a couple weeks). Now looking at this, and checking the price, I saw that this is £477 as opposed to the Kemper's £599 price tag. It's got a touchscreen, 18 signal path nodes, 5 buttons instead of 3, expression pedal built in and it's wireless. Is this then, a more sensible purchase? Would I be better off getting this instead of the Kemper?
The features on this are actually really damn good! Im impressed, But i'd be waiting to see some reviews on it first before a purchase. The headrush was a similar concept and that just turned out to really be a toy rather than a professional piece of gear that artists were using. Although that being said im a ToneX user and i sold of alot of my gear after owning Helix/Fractal/Kemper. I can see this new technology is soon going to become that good you're really not going to be paying a lot for it anymore. The future is here now
@@WillyhoweGuitar Yeah I was between ToneX and Kemper. I'm going Kemper even if it's double the price, because I don't want to buy any more pedals (except maybe a wah). With the ToneX I'd still need a delay, etc... I did think of still getting the ToneX PLUGIN, though. Don't think I'll need it. It'd be just to have a solution for situations where I might not have the Kemper with me (like bandmates borrowing it lol).
Old stuff, old sounds in new case with new pricing. Will they support this new device with firmware updates and bugfixes? Or they gonna drop support like for e.g. ge 300 and 300 lt?
I never fail to have fun when messing w pitch shifters, lol. Either it sounds super great or it sounds so weird it makes me laugh. Fun either way, can't go wrong.
it has Bluetooth! Q: Can you tweek it with a phone app like the Mooer Prime and SD30i, or is it touch pad only? the only other Multi effects with blue tooth are the Line 6 fire hawk and the Headrush . I wish The HX Stomp had bluetooth . getting settings to save with a phone app is so easy no knobs or even touching the unit
What do you know about the battery one. I havnt bern able to get an answer. So if the battery craps out....can uou6plug it in and kerp going? Nothing gas been said of this. So of course would like to know this. If you hapoen to know.
Wow! I had one of mooer's ge-300 (I think it was) and it was insanely good for its price, tones and functionality....that was 4-5 years ago....I can only imagine how this version is better.
I’ll answer myself for anyone who’s looking for this info. Yes, you can add 2 or 3 amps and then change between them in stompbox mode. Pretty useful since it’s lacking the “scene” or “snapshot” option.
Great video. I have been warching a lot of your amp modeller pedal videos lately am thinking of getting this or the GE3000 as an upgrade from my PODHD500X. Does anyone know if either of these MOOER pedals have a vst or plugin software that you can use or open inside of your DAW in order to record a dry and wet signal and play along to and listen to it wet?
Thanks for the video!! Makes me laugh how we all want over new gadgets! Also funny how people compare this $500 gadget to the sound of a $2000 gadget. I am not quite convinced to upgrade yet though. 🤘🏽🎩
Too bad they didn't launch a wireless version. I'll stick with my PodGo for now until they release the wireless, but this is certainly tempting at the price point.
I also own the GE300! I use it exclusively for recording and gigging. I'm excited by the Mooer (former boss GT 100 and line 6 pod go owner), and it's the best (IMO) up the $1000 price range. You can literally get the sound you want. I would like to know if the tone of this 1000 unit has quality differences from the 300! A comparison video would be nice!
Maan sick video! I`ve seen your GE1000 and Ampero II Stage and i`m in doubt about those two.. analysing both videos i guess for High Gain with pinch harmonics/pitch shift/metal stuff, Ampero II wins right? At least based on those videos thats what seems to me 😅 And that expression pedal, will you make a video about that little guy? Thanks!
I try not to say what sounds better because it's so subjective, and everything sounds good anyways. It's more about what features you need, and what workflow works best for you IMO. Both are similar, but this has a built in battery if that matters to you.
@@TaylorDanley Thanks for the answer. I'm looking for something heavy metal, but that eventually touches on a different genre. Something that only requires the equipment itself, or at most one or two pedals. And it's easy to setup...
You're the reason I got my Mooer GE200. Now it's outdated fml I really like the GE200 though, it has a Jet City 100H in it, and it sounds suuuuper close to my real 100H. The modeling is pretty damn good
Mooer approaching 600-700 dollars is a little much. Would you say the effects in units like this are as robust as something like a Stomp? I trust the modeling tones of Mooer but I'm not sure they have such a great effects choice, but maybe I'm wrong.
Boss...everything they make is rock solid. The ME90 sounds amazing also. It is old school knobs though and has a learning curve. Then again their is always Boss Tone Studio.
With custom ir you can make it to sound good. But yeah, it's propably the same hardware (dsp cpu) that was in e.g. ge 300, but with touch screen, so it's nothing new.
Agree. I switched from Mooer GE250 to Helix Native and the effects and reverbs are so much better, not even comparable. Mooer amps are good though, I even miss them a bit in Helix.
too bad Mooer forgets about it's previous devices as soon as they released a new one (not to mention non-existent support)... my GE-300 was the last Mooer device I bought
Not much new compared to old generation in my opionion. Shame they didn't develop MNRS further with dedicated units that can do captures so that you don't need an iOS product etc.
Its all a bit of a con really. Manufacturers telling players " YOU NEED THIS, or you'll be left behind. " As if everthing thats come before is obsolete. Majority of users will play at home and don't need choice of 60 overdrives, Choruses, Reverbs, or 100 cab simulations. What happened to less is more?
Looks cool but to be honest sounds terrible at least the distortion patches you ran. Would have to hear more demos but so far this sounds like a bottom tier multi effects worth passing on for something better.
Want a comparison video of AMPERO STAGE 2 and MOOER GE 1000
It would be sick if you did a shoot out between this and the ampero stage!
The Ampero 2 Stage has a disadvantage when it comes to splitting 2 outputs to one with Cab/IR and one without, it doesn’t leave much room for other effects in the chain.
The cool thing if one wants it, are parallel effects.
Amp models and drives are not bad in the Mooer, can also load custom profiles into it, but their Cab’s/IR’s are most probably not on pair, they do support 3rth party IR’s tough.
The thing I like the most with the drives on Mooer units is their EQ, instead of just getting a tone knob all drives have a 3 band EQ regardless of the original stompbox version.
One cool thing with the GE1000 is that they finally added an output mixer.
The Ampero 2 seems to have better delays and reverbs though, like one can mix more in of them before they sound to much.
To be honest though, I really like the NUX Amp Academy amps with custom IR’s though, so considering to get the Ampero 2 Stomp if all effects have a dry mix knob, mainly because of it havin a ToneBender, and chain it via the 4 cable method, should leave a tad more resources for other effects in the chain, since all these new cheap multi fx products seem to be plagued by lack of hardware resources.
I wish BOSS would come with a smaller version of the GX1000, since I only need the effects, a dry mix on all effects, parallel fx, the ability to have more than one drive in the chain and an fx loop, thing is going to sit on a rackshelf, no shoegazing here.
Maybe not the most exotic effects in 2024, but they do their job, plus that BOSS’s own Fuzz sounds pretty radd too.
Never had or seen any of their boards go hairwire either.
Just had a deeper look over the Ampero 2 specs, no dry/wet mix knob on most of the effects. 🙁
So for my demands the GT-1000 Core seems to be the best option.
This is the first processor I've heard of that has separate preamp and power amp. That was a damn good idea on their part.
The GE300 series also have this option! They are already sick units! Looking forward to try the 1000
Nice demo. Mooer are making outstanding modelers and pedals at very reasonable prices.
And never provide firmware update or compatible application update . Big lack for the price
Can live witout updates👌. In the end, this is all about the music and sound (not the computers, updates, programms, an little improvements in every next update, - like in phone). We hav forgot, that our old analog pealboard never has update of the soft ,a nd stil rocks 😊
@@raiviste4187Updates are essential for this type of units as they provide new amps, cabs and effects. Sometimes even new features and functions.
It's way more than simple bug fixes (which if you're using a similar unit for playing live is also essential).
I was just saying recently this would be ideal: big enough to have several channels via footswitches + vol/wah, yet not battleship size, ability to capture (not seeing capture instructions in the manual but I'm not familiar with mooer's GE Labs); nice touch screen/visual display; around $500; nice stock amp list; XLR outs. Only other negative might be if it doesn't have some bass amps (not seeing any in the manual), but everything else checks out! Definitely on my radar. Can someone answer - can this thing capture or not?
Kind of reminds me of Tonex, sounds like a blanket is over the CAB... Coming from seeing the Ampero Stage vid, I think I like the ampero better.
idk. its pretty standard w/ a few small unique changes. UI looks great but sound other than the IR sounded really muffled. Im sure it can be adapted which is of course the point. To be used more as a creativity tool. like the rechargeable feature. Price is good but theres a lot of other affordable pedals around as well. Good review. Mooer is def a promising multi-effect builder.
16:37 That feature is a game changer for me, happens the same on line 6 Pod Go, if you turn off IR block on different outs, everything before that is disabled by the system. Kinda sucks
Be nice to have a GE300 equivalent to this, maybe minus the synthesiser? I guess this and the wireless foot switch would be similar, but knowing me, I would loose/break/forget the foot switch.
A Boss GX1000 would also be nice, but that's a whole other thing.....
Unrelated to this vid, but do you think the ToneX could capture the sound of a Lichtlaerm Medusa into a modern high gain amp to get a modern tight chainsaw tone without having an additional pedal?
Hello Taylor thanks for the content , I just want to know can you do tone capture with the ge 1000 or would you recommend the new hotone ampero II
Battery power is why I use some zoom products till now for travel.
So here's the big question in my head about this.
I just bought myself a guitar, and I'm waiting on a Kemper Profiler Player purchase (thomann is out of stock, it'll be out in a couple weeks).
Now looking at this, and checking the price, I saw that this is £477 as opposed to the Kemper's £599 price tag.
It's got a touchscreen, 18 signal path nodes, 5 buttons instead of 3, expression pedal built in and it's wireless.
Is this then, a more sensible purchase? Would I be better off getting this instead of the Kemper?
Depends, Kemper is pro sound. This is more a full guitar suite more versatile less quality
The features on this are actually really damn good! Im impressed, But i'd be waiting to see some reviews on it first before a purchase. The headrush was a similar concept and that just turned out to really be a toy rather than a professional piece of gear that artists were using. Although that being said im a ToneX user and i sold of alot of my gear after owning Helix/Fractal/Kemper. I can see this new technology is soon going to become that good you're really not going to be paying a lot for it anymore. The future is here now
@@MauricioJaguan This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah I'm sticking with the Kemper then.
@@WillyhoweGuitar Yeah I was between ToneX and Kemper. I'm going Kemper even if it's double the price, because I don't want to buy any more pedals (except maybe a wah). With the ToneX I'd still need a delay, etc...
I did think of still getting the ToneX PLUGIN, though. Don't think I'll need it. It'd be just to have a solution for situations where I might not have the Kemper with me (like bandmates borrowing it lol).
My thoughts exactly. Id get both.
I just buy tis pedal.. where can i get IR download for this pedal ?
What would be you "go to" ? - this mooer or Ampero 2 stage? thx
Hotone makes better products. I'd pay a little more for the Ampero Stage 2 or get the Ampero II Stomp
I wish more pedals were Battery ready honestly. I love my Biss Pedals for that instead of boutique just because of that.
Wow!...they've come a hellova long way since my old GE200! Great vid, and best of luck with the Namm gig.
Old stuff, old sounds in new case with new pricing. Will they support this new device with firmware updates and bugfixes? Or they gonna drop support like for e.g. ge 300 and 300 lt?
I’ve always liked Mooer stuff for what it is. I probably won’t buy this but it’s very cool. The battery option does make it very tempting though. Lol.
Can you....build duplicate channels in the pod go, the mooer, and the gp200 and chug em out?
I never fail to have fun when messing w pitch shifters, lol. Either it sounds super great or it sounds so weird it makes me laugh. Fun either way, can't go wrong.
Can it be used for bass ?
I really don’t know which one to get… the ampero or this one
Mooer!!!
it has Bluetooth!
Q: Can you tweek it with a phone app like the Mooer Prime and SD30i, or is it touch pad only?
the only other Multi effects with blue tooth are the Line 6 fire hawk and the Headrush .
I wish The HX Stomp had bluetooth . getting settings to save with a
phone app is so easy
no knobs or even touching the unit
What do you know about the battery one. I havnt bern able to get an answer. So if the battery craps out....can uou6plug it in and kerp going? Nothing gas been said of this. So of course would like to know this. If you hapoen to know.
This actually sounds impressive but what’s the pedal like?
Whats better this MOOER or the Ampero II? Need some help because I wanna buy one
I don't know but I went with Ampero Stage 2. I like the user interface and footswitch layout better. I love the S2 and I couldn't be happier with it!
Thank you Taylor for this video if you compare the sound of the Ge 1000 to a Ge 250 do you think the sound and the effects improved ?
So is this replacing the ge300 and no more updates?
Seem diffrent uses and less switches etc.
Can it do dual amps?
I appreciate the little Blind intro in this demo lol
I can only play the guitar with headphones, unfortunately. How would you evaluate the sound quality of the headphone output?
Wow! I had one of mooer's ge-300 (I think it was) and it was insanely good for its price, tones and functionality....that was 4-5 years ago....I can only imagine how this version is better.
Which pedal power do you use?
Is it better to buy mooer ge 1000 or headrush mx5?
Is it possible to add two different amps, to alternate them in stompbox mode? Thanks
I’ll answer myself for anyone who’s looking for this info. Yes, you can add 2 or 3 amps and then change between them in stompbox mode. Pretty useful since it’s lacking the “scene” or “snapshot” option.
Cool review! Which power pedal are you using?
Give me a smaller one without the expression pedal and I'm sold.
The 1st company that copies the quad cortex's physical design is going to have huge sucess. 7 inch plus touch screen and rotary footswitches 👍
I have a pod go but I need an easier touch-screen. I'm getting too old for these lol
Great video. I have been warching a lot of your amp modeller pedal videos lately am thinking of getting this or the GE3000 as an upgrade from my PODHD500X. Does anyone know if either of these MOOER pedals have a vst or plugin software that you can use or open inside of your DAW in order to record a dry and wet signal and play along to and listen to it wet?
boss gt1 been running on batteries for years I use it at the beach regularly
Doing a comparison with the Big Boi modelers would be krieg af
Thanks for the video!!
Makes me laugh how we all want over new gadgets!
Also funny how people compare this $500 gadget to the sound of a $2000 gadget.
I am not quite convinced to upgrade yet though.
🤘🏽🎩
Too bad they didn't launch a wireless version. I'll stick with my PodGo for now until they release the wireless, but this is certainly tempting at the price point.
Do a video about the lift & ground mode?
I also own the GE300! I use it exclusively for recording and gigging. I'm excited by the Mooer (former boss GT 100 and line 6 pod go owner), and it's the best (IMO) up the $1000 price range. You can literally get the sound you want. I would like to know if the tone of this 1000 unit has quality differences from the 300! A comparison video would be nice!
That CPU DSP power seems worse than the Pod Go!
that attempt to that Korn riff...yyyeesssssss
Is this better than valeton?
yes
Mooer is really on it man.
This thing looks great , for sure.
Maan sick video!
I`ve seen your GE1000 and Ampero II Stage and i`m in doubt about those two.. analysing both videos i guess for High Gain with pinch harmonics/pitch shift/metal stuff, Ampero II wins right? At least based on those videos thats what seems to me 😅 And that expression pedal, will you make a video about that little guy? Thanks!
9:28 - nice
The ME-90 runs on batteries. 4 AA
What equipament sound better to you GE1000 or Ampero Stage II?
I try not to say what sounds better because it's so subjective, and everything sounds good anyways. It's more about what features you need, and what workflow works best for you IMO. Both are similar, but this has a built in battery if that matters to you.
@@TaylorDanley Thanks for the answer. I'm looking for something heavy metal, but that eventually touches on a different genre. Something that only requires the equipment itself, or at most one or two pedals. And it's easy to setup...
You're the reason I got my Mooer GE200. Now it's outdated fml
I really like the GE200 though, it has a Jet City 100H in it, and it sounds suuuuper close to my real 100H. The modeling is pretty damn good
What is that red guitar at 0:49?
What the riff at 4:20 he plays it a lot
Seems legit to me! and that damn Jackson again... Freaking awesome guitar
Hi all! What is the more interesting: Mooer GE1000 or Hotone Ampero II stage?
More Mooer madness.
Mooer approaching 600-700 dollars is a little much. Would you say the effects in units like this are as robust as something like a Stomp? I trust the modeling tones of Mooer but I'm not sure they have such a great effects choice, but maybe I'm wrong.
can you make a video about how to get good death metal tone
Comparison between Ampero Stage Vs Ge1000
Hey Taylor,....no ctrl buttons or scenes?
Hehe it must be nice to have a videographer at 44,000 subscribers.
Love your personality and channel!! 🤘👍
I don't have a videographer? If you mean editor, anyone can have one, there's not subscriber threshold requirement 🥳
@@TaylorDanley uh... Then ...it was a compliment. 👍🤷❤️
La pantalla tiene delay , corre algo lenta
This or the Boss ME90?
Boss...everything they make is rock solid. The ME90 sounds amazing also. It is old school knobs though and has a learning curve. Then again their is always Boss Tone Studio.
Sooo can you play this without a power amp? Cause that would be dope
No you'll need a power amp if you want to run it through a cabinet.
You can use any powered speaker / PA / monitor instead of a cab. That's my preferred way with modellers.
Is it me, or this thing sounds like digital multi effect from 1990s?
With custom ir you can make it to sound good. But yeah, it's propably the same hardware (dsp cpu) that was in e.g. ge 300, but with touch screen, so it's nothing new.
Every time the built in cab IR header came up it sounded awful, i'm getting a better sound from a
3:34 - 42% CPU already on an EMPTY signal chain? How?
I suppose it’s the standard usage of the system, I mean the CPU has an usage even if the chain is empty.
what riff are you playing at 8.34 min? i recognize it
I think he’s playing Nocturnal by The Black Dahlia Murder.
Mooer’s amps are great, but their effects leave me wanting. And they just don’t have an even passable vibe effect. Super frustrating
Agree. I switched from Mooer GE250 to Helix Native and the effects and reverbs are so much better, not even comparable. Mooer amps are good though, I even miss them a bit in Helix.
too bad Mooer forgets about it's previous devices as soon as they released a new one (not to mention non-existent support)... my GE-300 was the last Mooer device I bought
You and Ola play the same riff when you test shit.. hahahaha Its like that old school 80s thrash riff..
I've never compared, but it doesn't surprise me. Him and I have a lot in common.
I guess the Quad Cortex is still better then this. Can you bypass the Cabs with the quad cortex also? thanks.
the Valeton GT-200 cat automatically select the standard Cab if you want so. Is this possible with this unit?
i wonder did someone actually saving their preset and named it "dingus"
I did!
Man now imagine an ampero mini with batteries...
Also Ampero Mini 2
Same technology that Ampero 2 Stomp has. I'm waiting for that device!
Yes!@@JohnnyRaven69
@@JohnnyRaven69 The ampero stomp 2 is already very small don't u think?
@@eduardolorandi3628 True, but much more expensive don't you think?
@@JohnnyRaven69 well yes but that's doe to the technology that's much more advanced, not necessarily the size difference
Not much new compared to old generation in my opionion. Shame they didn't develop MNRS further with dedicated units that can do captures so that you don't need an iOS product etc.
Wowww
So far the Mooer GTRS 900 / 801 guitar sounds better than this maybe if you used one of those with no effects with this 😮
Hope they will fix their app or at least their customer service. Still waiting for the software that will work with a mac m1 👎
Its all a bit of a con really. Manufacturers telling players " YOU NEED THIS, or you'll be left behind. "
As if everthing thats come before is obsolete. Majority of users will play at home and don't need choice of 60 overdrives, Choruses, Reverbs, or 100 cab simulations. What happened to less is more?
Sounded pretty bad through the cab. Guitar also was out of tune.
first!! nice video
Sub ! Great content man!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
That's a damn good deal for the price, and what a cool shiny poo stain going down the neck! Oh Yeah!! 🤣🤘
What is with the weird colour scheme on the expression pedal? 🙄
My thinking as well. It’s actually pretty much a deal breaker for me. I don’t think they know what’s going on. They’re moving too fast with no plan.
Kinda like a cortex ripoff
just the first listen not to impressed - get the quad cortex!
Yeah not bad. But can’t beat the Neural Quad Cortex.
I don’t like how it sounds at all, just get a tone x if you want to play metal rythm
Doesn't sound that good.
Looks cool but to be honest sounds terrible at least the distortion patches you ran. Would have to hear more demos but so far this sounds like a bottom tier multi effects worth passing on for something better.
Mooer has notoriously bad support. For example, the ge200 latest firmware is more than 4 years old. Very sad. They abaddon their products quickly.
Sounds mediocre, though. Not good enough.😊