Queering Animal Crossing | A Helpful Guide to Queer Readings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2020
- Animal Crossing: New Horizons is an extraordinarily playful game that let's all kinds of players express themselves in creative ways. When two new characters to the series, Flick and C.J, showed signs of being romantically involved a lot of people ran with it, while others pushed back with arguments of canon and lore. What the latter group seem to have missed is that Animal Crossing is quite the queer environment, where queer readings are living freely.
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"noOoOOOo Flick and CJ CAN'T be gay, they never SAY they are! They CAN'T BE!"
ha ha Flick and CJ go smooooooch
We got 'em!
I don't personally ship them, but I totally see Flick as part of The LGBTQIA+ comunity. And also,if they're not sisters, Francine and The other pink bunny (can't remember her name rn)
Yessssssssssssssssssssss
@lemonade with ice please ugh....whyyyyyyyyyyy! Noooo, I don't wanna be cursed😢
And they were roommates
Oh my god they were Roommates
You could easily draw parallels here with the real world and how the existence of gay people at times have been painted over. Oh, so you are saying that this author lived together with her "friend" for their entire life? Yup, just friends. Nothing to see here.
lol
Historians would say They were roomates
So we know that they are gae
THEY WERE ROOMMATES
"theres no romance, its a kids game!"
really? how come smug characters in the game have LITERALLY said they wanted to kiss snooty characters? how come there is actually going to be an ingame wedding? why arent they getting mad about that? after all, its a kids game, without romance, right?
The problem is that they see homosexuality as inherently sexual, and heterosexuality as not. So to them showing a gay couple in a kids show is inappropriate, even though it technically is no different from a straight one. It is a complete lack of understanding of the issue basically.
Reese and Cyrus are confirmed in a relationship. Even if they're not in NH, the "no romo because its for teh liddol chilren" rule falls apart when you think about that
Finch Does An Art there’s gonna be a wedding event for them next month 😳
Yeah and the owl house and steven universe were shows for kids....
Yeah....
Yeah that's stupid, no one complained abput mario a kids game were the protagonist mario is trying to save peach from the evil king bowser and it's aparent to everyone that mario has a crush on peach and yeah he's straight so no problem but now imagine if they made a game were peach is lesbian or something and dates like daisy or something then they would be like "oh my god! How the fuck nintendo has the guts to put that in a kids game,cancel nintendo from trying to make our kids gay"
it always annoyed me when people AGGRESIVELY pointed at that thing calling Flick and C.J. business partner and roomates, and choosing to take that as a confirmation that they arent in a romantic relationship, cuz let me tell you something, buddy. theres another pair of characters who are business partners and roomates in animal crossing. Perhaps youve heard of them. Their names are Reese and Cyrus, and guess what? They're *married*
I know right? These things are not mutually exclusive. The difference is of course that they are straight and therefore it is not controversial or inappropriate. Typical.
k so like you do realize that just because there’s a pair that are referred to as roommates and business partners, but also married, doesn’t mean CJ and flick are,,,right....? like yea they cute but lol kinda dumb reasoning
@@kyocerii1924 wowie.
@@kyocerii1924 congratulations! your brain is so big that the point i was making went completely over your head because you couldnt lift it off of the ground!
But it was clearly stated they were married since their first introduction in the game, with Flick and CJ we only speculate
Headcanon: Isabelle is a struggling alcoholic and the easter bunny dude has bodies in his basement.
Randos: Ha ha, that's funny.
Headcanon: These two characters are gay.
Randos: WTF NOT CANON NOT CANON KEEP YOUR AGENDA OUTTA MY GAEM
Not to mention all the Isabelle lewds out there that I am sure a lot of them are okay with as well.
@@Transparencyboo oh... i renember that... i have traumas for that... i wanted some cute isabelle fanarts but google... gave me something else... *near ptsd itensifies*
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat Didn't we all?
@Dynamite Grizzly Me: I see no issue with this, it's just a wonderful little headcanon.
@@StoryTeller796 yeah...
Factt: Alicia and Kiki are business partners and roomates
TRUUUUUUUEEEE!
My fav way to give headcanons to characters is putting pride clothing in the Able Sister's store and waiting for my villagers to wear them.
Haha, good idea! They choose it themselves then too, so there is no denying it then! Check mate gamers.
I say Whitney wearing a non binary beanie I made (or as I call it, a non-beanie) earlier today :)
Person: Shipping two real life people who are not gay
Everyone: Cute
Person: Shipping fictional characters who may be gay
Everyone: Ewww
Won't anyone think of the children, right?
Only 5 minutes in but I'm in awe of the editing.
Hope you liked the rest as well~
Right?! It's so good! (Substance is there toooo ♥️)
@@missmystery1705 aw, you are so nice. Thanks!
Right? It's impressing
Like, that guy wasted time and voice to make a video to complain about people shipping a lizard and a beaver. like... he ì's the real loser in my opinion. I really enjoyed this video, and even if things are not canon, people will write fics and draw fanarts anyway. also, i bet if Cj or Flick was a "girl", then everything would have been ok.
I am pretty sure that you are right. If they were a straight couple, then it would not even be talked about at all. As we said, not just the norm - the default.
Okay but how did an animal crossing gay debate get so deep? She explained this wonderfully
I've actually read Frodo/Sam as Frodo crushing hard on his best friend, but Sam ends up just being straight, so Frodo gets sad and broods with elves. In the Jackson film version, anyways.
Oh yeah, totally. Like the interesting thing is that could be part of the queer reading as well. Because you see they have their romance through the books, and in the end Frodo wants Sam to move in with him, but at that point Sam is moving towards a woman instead. He is torn up about it, and Frodo leaves to never come back. And by that point the heteronormative hegemony is restored. Quite interesting.
It's great to have a theoretical underpinning to explain why so many of us immediately read them as a gay couple, and also, why Animal Crossing itself has been such a big deal in certain communities. :-) Also, my goodness getting all of those shots must have been a lot of work O.o
Thanks! It did take quite a bit of work to do it, haha. But it was worth it :)
i found CJ in my town after watching this video. the gays have been summoned
Truely blessed!
The expressions matching up perfectly with the audio must have taken forever and fit this video perfectly! I'm cry laughing it's so good 😂
Just some clever editing. Nothing too fancy really. Glad you enjoyed it so much though! :)
Watch out, after I'm done turning Animal Crossing gay I'm coming for everything else you enjoy, heteros.
The agenda is real!
God seeing a grown man rant about such a non-issue and making it out to be the end of society really just brings me back to 2016 and I want out
They're perpetually stuck, and it's sad.
Love this video!
I didn't even think that straight people wouldn't be able to read into it, just felt obvious to me as a gay that Flick and CJ are gay (and I still ship them) and people were just being obtuse on purpose about it
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it so much! Queer readings are fun like that, usually straight people don't see that kind of reading because like we said that is not really part of their lived experiences. We have so much more of an head start in that department, hehe.
"See! They're not gay at all! C.J. and Flick are just business partners and roommates!"
*"Oh My GAWD they were Roommates"*
Very gay.
I love this video! It's probably your best ones yet!
CJ/Flick is such a cute ship, I love that they went mainstream. This was a really good video, I like your takes on queer readings of media, and especially about how characters are assumed to be straight until proven otherwise, and I might save this to use in future discussions.
Hey, thanks! We are glad you liked it so much! Feel free to use it whenever you want!
Default for me is auto gay lol
GAY SPACE IS THE PLACE
It certainly is!!
Yep
This is wonderful. The information you gave us to start but the clips, the sounds, the editing. Just everything was fantastic.
I'm going to check out more of your videos because this was so good
Glad you enjoyed it, and hope you find something in our other stuff as well :)
I'm seriously so happy with this video you two have made!!!
Thank you for the kind words! Really glad that you liked it so much and felt it was empowering! Feels like a goal accomplished.
I wheezed when the whiteboard said “they be fuckin’” also this is really well done 😌
This video's absolutely amazing! The editing is wonderful and the script is perfect. You're all very strong for being able to keep so level headed when dealing with raging homophobes who at this point are choosing to remain ignorant and hate us.
C.J. and Flick being roommates and business partners change nothing, after all that's the description Reese and Cyrus have too! Speaking of Reese and Cyrus, there's no way they're a cishet couple. With that colour palette, they're a trans mlw power couple.
Thank you, the calm talking voice and the passive aggressive approach suits us quite a bit. And yeah, agreed about Cyrus and Reese. Definietly.
12:22 your calming voice made that statement a million times better I love this
Haha, thanks! Glad you liked it!
"Yes!!!"-M. Bison
oh my god they were roommatesssss
Heck yeah!
I can’t believe how well edited this is.
Thanks, we do our best to always present our videos. This one was quite special though, haha.
The amount of effort put into this is outstanding
I love how you made most of the visuals for the video using Animal Crossing. Very cute! And the you're on point with the central topic. This is something that I see over and over, again and again in pretty much any media I consume. If someone reads a character as non-heterosexual or transgender, someone else will be fighting tooth and nail to disprove that reading, completely missing the point of a *reading*. Especially when it comes to gender, actually. Mordred from Fate (easily read as trans man or non-binary) and Gwyndolin from Dark Souls (easily read as trans feminine or non-binary) comes to mind.
Sometimes you gotta just laugh at people tho. When Mordred literally has dialogue where they draw their sword at a character and says "Call me a woman again and I will use your throat as a sheath." and people still go "nooooo she's totally a cis woman, anyone who suggests she's otherwise is just an sjw" what are you supposed to do, lmao
In the anime/manga community there seems to be a lot of problem too with how to approach these things. Not the least when it comes to trans people. With a lacking understanding of trans people and words that are clearly malicious to refer to us it does not surprise me at all that they would have clouded perspectives. We think that part of the problem though is the obsession with "lore" as a self serving concept. It really does stifle a lot of people's ability to do basic media analysis and critique.
This is such a perfectly made video. Your research and analysis is very thorough and shows a broad range of consideration. The visual presentation and editing is also magnificent. I'm definitely subscribing if this is the quality of your channel!
Hey, thanks. We try to do our best to make high quality stuff. Hopefully you'll find more stuff to enjoy on the channel, and we'll see you around :)
@@Transparencyboo It's so lovely of you to reply to comments! Thank you for being brilliant :-)
@@eli_r_q Haha, it is the least we can do. Glad to see people taking the time to comment
Love how your villagers just look at you concerned while you turn the tv on and off. Edit: timestamp 6:04
Haha, we thought she looked rather calm and collected like this happens all the time.
For all you people who think that the AC team doesn’t listen let’s keep in mind that in previous AC titles if you chose the “guy” character and chose a dress from the Abel Sisters Mabel say stuff like “A bit out there but it’s always great to push out of your comfort zone” but guess what went away in New Horizons.
Horizons takes everything New Leaf built up and just made it better in terms of the possibilities for players to express themselves. It is really cool how open it really is.
it's probably super intentional by Nintendo to make it so ambiguous specifically so there's no answer. they know theres an entire subset of queer people play their games and they want to cater to as many people as possible without upsetting the rest of the audience. they've always tried to be ambiguous like this; despite him (them?) being portrayed as male as time went on, link was always intended to be androgynous from the beginning so that girls could see themselves in the protagonist role too. this is only a logical progression of that philosophy. people who attempt to say that there's no intention for the two to be gay have no ground to stand on, because they're trying to assert intention by the developers for the to BE a correct answer, when there isn't one. they're just as right as us, but they're not happy unless them being right needs to mean us being wrong
Nintendo have had a pretty clever way of basically getting past having to deal with too much "controversy", I guess you could say, and still being accomodating to queer people. Like we said in the video you dont choose a gender in Animal Crossing, people refer to you by they and so on. The idea of choosing a 'style' instead of gender will also be implemented in Splatoon 3 and Switch Sports goes in further in how it doesn't even present an option at all, it just plops you in the character creator and lets the outfits and whatever you decide personally to define you. And like, yeah, it's not perfect, but I think it's a pretty neat.
Making this video essay in Animal Crossing is so obvious and yet so genius! I love it!
It was a lot of fun to make, can recommend!
All of these videos are so high quality and entertaining! I came from jan Misali's recommendation and don't regret checking out your content. These videos are resonating with me suspiciously well for a cis (mostly) straight person, but I love what you're doing so don't stop! mi wile pona tawa sina tu :)
If you are watching in release order I hope our improvements show too, haha. Because I think we have gotten a lot better with time too. This one is still one of my personal favorites though, so really glad you enjoyed it!
When I saw “They be f*ckin’” on the whiteboard, I *W H E E Z E D*
Adding to the Gay with the new update and DLC:
If you invite one to the Roost, the other WILL come along ALWAYS.
And in the DLC, they will ALWAYS room TOGETHER, refusing to live alone or with anyone else
We actually also talked a bit about the new villager Sasha in a tweet right before release of the update. This video holds up really well it turns out, haha. Like I get the feeling as if Nintendo wants to stay out of controversy, which sucks, but I think the scenarios you mention really just goes to show that it's easy to read it as a real ass relationship. It's funny too how Flick's dad says that he's happy that he has Chip Senior's son to "rely on". Like gosh, it's so wholesome and nice and I am melting.
The queerness of animal crossing was immediately apparent when I played i love playing the game just to change my outfit up haha
This was incredibly informative and entertaining. Great work 👍🏽
Glad you enjoyed it! Happy to see it still holding up quite well!
I didn't think I'd cry over a video about Animal Crossing today.
Aw, glad it resonated with you!
Thank you for this. I do have problems with people who are so used to being represented (aka straight cis white people) that they just assume nothing can be queer simply because it isn't outright stated - totally lacking any sensibility and ability for interpretation and textual literacy. I don't mind if they don't see it but that they need to scream and yell about it online to "disprove" our queer reading of something bothers me. And especially when they refer to us EXISTING and interpreting media to reflect our EXISTENCE as us having an "agenda". Or when they refer to something as "family friendly" and make those words an all-out argument why something can't be queer. Because of course being queer could never be "family friendly". (But it's cis-het people who give cartoon animals eyelashes and boobies to make SURE the audience knows it's a girl-animal, lmao)
You're welcome! Glad you liked the video. It's a bit of an oldie at this point for us, but I still think it holds up pretty well all things considered. People are indeed weird about how they see queer people as inherently sexual, very strange behaviour.
Your work is getting better and better. Just the absolutely staggering amount of work you did to stage all these little scenes in ACNH is incredible. This video is so much fun and so educational. Just really really good stuff.
And also you had a bit where one of your villagers talks about me!
Buuuuut you mispronounced "Mordor", so downvote, obviously.
Damn it. We are unworthy. Should have known better. Thanks by the way. Love you ❤️
12:22 your tone... makes the whole thing so much better, also this is the fourth time i'm watching this... i'm not joking
Thanks, haha!
@@Transparencyboo hahaha 😀
@@Transparencyboo you are welcome, also thank you for making this video in the first place
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat
@@Transparencyboo ok ( *blushes* )
This is my new favorite channel!
Aw, thanks! That means a lot :) It feels pretty neat just having released a new video and still getting a response like this on something much older.
everyone's said it already but DAMN the editing in this is good
❤️ thank you, never gets old to hear. Hope people like the rest of our catalogue too
This video was great, learned a lot and it is cute!
As you can tell this comment is here to please the algorithm looool.
Thanks for your service!
Is amazing how much importance both sides give to the topic... I just see them as the ones I can sell bugs or fish for a mayor price, and thats probably the only dinamic they give to the game besides the competitions
It is important to note that they probably kiss when they get home.
People: there just roommates and are work with each other
Me: I STILL SHIP IT!
They are doing it!
Transparency yepppp *insert Lenny face*
I lost it at banjos cameo!!
*How dare you think Rover is CisHet*
Lmaooo
❤️🌹
This video is ore professional then all the documentary’s I gave watched over the years lol
We do our best, thank you friend!
Ayy, Thought Slime cameo!
This was a cool video and I agree with it so much that I have nothing to say
Glad you enjoyed it, and thought it was cool! You are cool too!
If you ask me, the storytelling in ACNH is very vague, and it's like that on purpose to encourage the player to add their own narrative.. :P And since every player has their own island with their own narratives, I believe that you can apply any sexuality you wish to any character, it's your island after all.. ^^
Basically yeah. The whole doll house-esque approach in this game is pretty much tailormade for you to project yourself upon.
@@Transparencyboo Exactly, and that is a huge part of what makes it such an amazing game! :D The Sims has the same appeal, they chose to make Simlish gibberish in stead of a real language to make it easier to apply your own narrative to it.. :P
Gotta love that zoom on the beard. Great video as usual, gals! 🤘(also, you made me want to rewatch Lord of the Rings...)
Thanks, love you!
This Video should get A LOT more likes and views
Now we are biased, but we think all our videos should get more likes and views in general. That would be great, haha.
And they were roommates.
Thanks for giving attention to fact that lore and cannon aren't that important in interpretation. Most of the art theory is reading clues from context and analyzing feelings that work of art tries to evoke in the reader.
Besides, if there isn't clearly stated that the character is cis and hetero I have full right to interpret them in another way.
And thank you for the great comment!~
7:40 does anyone know how to spell that author's name, I can't find the book she mentions here
Oh, her name is Fanny Ambjörnsson. I think however that the book is sadly only in swedish, where it is called "Vad är Queer?".
@@Transparencyboo thank you anyway :3
I would just like to say, i appreciate you, this was a very good video and i hope you get the recognition you deserve.
Thanks, we do our best! Glad you liked it :)
Can anyone tell me the name of the aggressive dude with the star wars cap?
"Assumed hetero until proven otherwise" Story of my life! Both my fiance and I are Bi, we just so happen to have ended up together in a relationship and everyone seems to think this means we're no longer Bi. I'll never understand the thinking. Just because I chose to spend the rest of my life with him doesn't mean I stopped being attracted to women, doesn't mean I haven't been in love with a woman. And the same goes for him. He didn't magically stop thinking men were sexy because we're together...humans as a whole need to do some serious work on this whole sexuality thing, because our ancestors totally understood it was fluid...all the ancient cultures were cool with queers, it's only in the last 1000 years or so anyone decided to have a problem with it, and those were just men seeking power. It's okay to be gay! HISTORY SAYS SO!
the hell I'm straight and I think CJ and Flick might be a bit more than friends XD
To clarify; one does of course not necessarily have to not be straight to see it. Just gives that added context and worldview. Just means that you have a broader perspective, friend. Which is awesome. Go you!
discord.gg/TUyQFC New discord welcome to all! Made this in response to transphobia in other servers.
If you'll allow me to stoop to their level of "what is canon" and "a game with no sexuality" (referring to romantic relationships, I agree the game has actually sexual elements to it for obvious reasons); in new leaf which maintains the gender binary and thusly allows you to pick either male OR female one of the flagship characters of the franchise, Isabelle in her very first appearance, has a crush on the mayor... Even if they're female. Making Isabelle (who is as mentioned before a practical mascot of the series) canonically bisexual.
There's no way around it, it's pretty damn explicit. If you guys aren't objectively homophobic and are simply ignorant and in need of a character expressly showing they are queer: there ya have it.
Also - C.J's dad fucked, and so did Flick's. I mean where else did they come from.
I love how you use Animal Crossing as visuals through out the video. Makes it more engaging to watch
Thanks, it was a lot of fun to make!
This? Needs more views.
So they say, lol
Good. By which I mean - lovely video with a lovely-ly stated point. :)
Thank you, you are very lovely too :)
The argument that the text isn't explicit doesn't even apply here. "Partner" is a pretty explicit term, especially in a fictional culture that as you pointed out tends to prefer gender-neutral language. It's ambiguous, because it could also mean business partner, but that just means that a reading where they platonically run a business, and a reading where they smooch, are both based in the text.
Heck yeah!
One of my teachers last year always referred to his girlfriend as “partner”.
They’re married now.
@@sunfis Nice!
15:36 Not to rain on the parade but the game doesn't ask what your gender is because English localization team made it so. In all other languages, including Japanese, this choice is explicitly gendered, and the characters don't use "they/them" for other players.
We are aware, however it genuinely doesn't matter to our interpretation. We're clearly playing the game in English and interacting with it from that perspective. It's not like other localizations simply existing has any material impact on our reading at all.
@@Transparencyboo That's great, but this fact does mean that game can't be exactly be queer-coded, as coding can't exist without authorial intent, and any queer-coding present in the English localization of the game was added by the English localization team. I am not exactly keen on viewing foreign media through my own cultural perception because there's always context for everything that one is not aware of.
@@Sonchikas1 I don't agree.
If someone doswnt get kt now Idk how they ever will this was so clear and exactly what I thought bht didnt know 👍
It's to long. They did not watch it.
11:55
"No sexuality"
Wasn't there an entire wedding event?
This video was made a bit before that was released if I recall correctly, but yes, Reese and Cyrus had a little wedding event where you could take cute pictures .
Personally, I don’t care if people ship them or not, I assumed C.J. was big gay from the start, but I always thought Flick was asexual, but that’s just my head cannon and everyone has different head cannons.
In the french version, sadly, everybody is clearly gendered since the game never uses neutral pronouns and C.J. calls Flick his "business associate"
Reese and Cyrus are technically business partners too, and had a whole event where you could recreate their wedding. I think what they're saying in the video about "straight until proven gay" absolutely applies here.
Isn't the animal crossing New horizons guide licensed?? Like, it wasn't made by Nintendo themselves I believe, like most guides aren't! So that "business partners" thing could easily be an interpretation by the people that made the guide
But in the Japanese version CJ says they are friends? (I'm not saying it bothers me on the contrary I ship them A LOT XD)
Sure, and we knew someone would at some point bring it up. We just felt that it did not have to be countered because it honestly does not matter. Yes, the japanese version is different, however that is not the version we or most likely anyone who has watched this video played. The versions are not necessarily to be seen as a whole so to speak, they both exist and can be read based on their content independant of each other.
17:52 - 18:01 😂 also I’m not against LGBTQ nor do I necessarily support it, but one thing is for sure...
FLICK AND C.J. ARE DATING AND NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY MIND!
Also I think Banned From Free Ham Sandwich basically said this in the comments but you can be business partners and still be dating ._.
This vid was very well done and edited!
We, as in Kiki and Alicia, are also business partners when we make stuff for this channel, we live together and are in a relationship. So yeah, it is quite possible :P
Okay, genuinely though to the haters of the flick shp, who doesn't make headcanons of made up characters? Shipping is legit just a headcannon that people make because they like to add more to the character lol
Jambette is trans because i am trans AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! MWAHAHAHAHA
In french, c. j. don't say "partener" but "mon pote" Who said "my dude" ... 😕😕😕 And his name is "Pollux" and not "c. j. " 😐😐😐😐
Strange isn't it ? 😯😯😯
Different localizations, different ways to read it. Same goes for the japanese release. However the reason we did not mention this is because it does not really matter when someone makes a reading of the english version of the game. And honestly they still live together, and they sure are each other's dudes there.
They sleep together as dudes is what I am saying.
My friend: awww, they are business partners!and they are roommates?!? They must be best friends!
Me: Bruh, they fuckin-
Hell yeah they are!
This is wonderfully made and presented. Wish I'd found it sooner.
Glad you found it eventually :)
Maybe in June?
Your voice is so relaxing
Thank you
"what the fuck is wrong with these weirdos???" I'm gay, and I like seeing other gay people, and I like these two cute animals and want them to hold hands
As always, this was a great video essay but my favorite part was all those smug faces your AC character made 😏
yay 2 male characters having a healthy and mutually beneficial exchange... who do i think I'm fooling. yay to the big gay.
Give in to the BIG gay!
I enjoyed this video and feel more at ease that people will see this, I hope they see from a different perspective.
We hoped we could empower people with this video, and so far it seemed like it has worked out quite well.
12:00 is he trying to imply that LGBT isn't fit for a family-friendly game? or that LGBT just isn't family-friendly? someone, please tell me I'm wrong
He is implying that LGBT relationships are not appropriate at all in children's media. This comes from the idea that same sex relationships are inherently sexual, which is not true of course.
Wow! Awesome video, fun and very interesting. So a queer reading is mostly about assuming less, expanding and blurring the lines of a culturally assumed framework? That's an idea I can get behind.
Do we really want to see this turn in big capital entertainment though as a first choice? Isn't it a little better when small house productions strike big while propelling this change so we get to shrink the giants that are Hollywood, Disney and Nintendo in the same process?
I find this important because when it occurs, that means I will get the show/movie on my Netflix, or if it's a game, on my PS4 or Steam.
Why isn't anyone thinking about the Switchless!?
I think it might be hard to control who makes representation in media, especially considering how big some of these companies are. What we can do is perhaps use queer theoretical approaches to critically view these big company movies and bring forth criticism. Seeing how Disney for example have made really shitty stuff connected to women and lgbt characters we have a lot of things to talk about. Maybe this was not touching too much on what you were thinking?
@@Transparencyboo Oh, lol I'm sorry. I was building up to a joke (How dare Nintendo do something good when I don't even own a Switch). :)
Nah, on the whole, I like it when large entertainment producers modernize their approach, though I like it even better when small house productions make those sort of breakthroughs though.
People going about completely rejecting fanfiction and ships in such an unfettered fashion really don't sit well with me. I completely agree that it's important to concider that multiple readings - intrinsic, extrensic, author-centered or whatnot, are all very much concidered viable and important even within academia. It's always important to explore multiple perspectives even if your opinon should differ, it not only to get a more informed view of the particular topic.
However, I do disagree with your notion that norms and assumptions don't at all matter whilst reading into stories or societal contructs. There will always exist minorities and majorities, and while I myself am part of the LGTBQ-spectrum, I also acknowledge that I am part of a minority, and as such won't always be included in every discourse or newly written tale. There are plenty of works throughout history that explicitly do touch on the close intimacy of same-sex characters, going back as far as the Victorian era and probably further - even if the concept of homosexuality didn't really exist, or at the very least wasn't embraced, in the fashion it is today. In a similar fashion many works don't at all include such notions, and that's fine. While I realize the importance of challenging heteronortmative narratives, I also realize that sometimes, certain narratives simply resonate better with the text. It is still fine to see different readings, of course, but to say that they fit the tale just as well might be a bit of a stretch. To say anything else would border on postmodernist deconstructionalism for the sake of making everything accessible for everyone, and this is problematic. By trying to make everyone part of a certain community, you inheretely exclude some people. I do think that a cultural environment gains rather than loses on having demographics and tailoring works for certain groups of people. Inclusion does not only entail making everything for everyone, but also making certain things be for only a select few - Like when you choose not to include accessibility options in a game such as alternate control schemes or difficulties in order to only make it play one very specific way. For some this makes the game unplayable, for others it makes it consistent and more focused as an experience.
Oh, we are not really saying that norms and assumptions don't at all matter to a reading of stories or societal structures, especially not for the latter. It depends highly on what kind of reading you are making though. In the end we don't think the point is neccessarily to include everyone either. The idea is simply that you can make a reading of a piece of media through different lenses, and that there is no real objective one that is more correct than any other. We are not trying to say that there should be LGBT characters in every single story of course, that does not necessarily have to be the case.
*my type of school*
M little sister said that Flick looks like sonic :😭✋
I mean maybe a little bit, lol.
algorithm and love
Much love!
The book never said they weren’t a couple soooo....
We win every time.
Hell yeah
I will still ship them
Go for it friend!
Commenting for the algorithm
Powerful!
*I like very much dis yes yes*
Who cares if the ship isn’t canon? Anyone can still ship it, I can ship it, but I won’t. I agree with this video tons and I don’t ship Flick x CJ, at least not yet.
They were roommates
OH MY GOD THEY WERE *ROOMMATES*
They could basically not be more roommates.
@@Transparencyboo of COURSE they were roommates
That comedy though. This video despite being informative gave me some laughs.
Thank you, a bit of a late reply here, but it means a lot that you enjoyed it. We worked really hard on the visual gags here. We usually do, but this video just did some things that we often can't do with other subjects. Fun!