Should Things In Trailers Be Considered Spoilers? - Open Mic
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Here's my thought on this, regarding X-23 specifically. Is it a spoiler? Nah, but I would have rather not known the character was in the movie. I don't blame you John for covering it, but I'm a little disappointed that we were shown this in a trailer. Especially when it's the FINAL trailer and I don't think the reveal is going to move a noteworthy amount of tickets.
Exactly.
@@DooodOfLife I disagree on 0 tickets being sold. I think John mentioned this on Friday's show, but including X-23 convinces the fans of Logan who were on the fence about Deadpool and Wolverine because they thought it would ruin Logan's ending. Adding X-23 could tip the favor of those people who want to see how Logan plays into this.
This is exactly how I looked at it.. and if your gonna have a cameo heavy movie then you should try to keep those ppl out of the promo
I personally dont have a problem with X23 being in the trailer or you covering it. I think the reason why everyone was so upset about it is the movie is literally days away. What was the point of having her in a trailer so late in the marketing? At that point she might as well just be a surprise.
Honestly didn't want to see the latest trailer since the movie was coming out in just over a week at the time. This show posted the x23 cameo in its thumbnail which I was disappointed to see revealed like that. Considering I was intentionally not going to watch the trailer, it definitely felt like a spoiler to me.
Same.
This is so funny because when John mentioned he knew a big name that was in the movie, people in his chat screamed "TELL US NOW!!!", but then when a character like this show up in actual promotional material it is like "WHY MARVEL WHY!??".
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We want to know everything and nothing! 😅
A spoiler is much like pornography; I can't necessarily define it, but I know it when I see it.
I saw the first trailer and have been avoiding all the other trailers. Most of the time i listen to the audio version on the show while i am at work so I didn't see the thumbnail picture. So it was a spoiler for me when I heard you speak about it on the show. I don't blame you though but maybe a heads up "we will be talking about the new deadpool trailer and some new things it revealed" would be nice. In the past I've heard you say that and I usually skip that segment of the show. Anyways great show and keep up the hard work!
they could have just shown her in a post release trailer if it was to help bring in fans of hers
you make some good points John, but I must also bring up the point that Pyro and X-23 are at different levels of importance to the Logan storyline…but let me bring up a different point, would it have been a spoiler if someone like Iron Man or Captain America were to be part of the movie and they showed it to us in the trailer?
But is it the news outlet fault or the studios?
everyone wants to know something about upcoming movies, but everyone also gets to a point where they say "thats enough, ill wait till the movie is out", its not an all or nothing game.
Should open mic thumbnails be considered spoilers
The thumbnail is photoshopped.
Nah, they get a pass, I’m just made at Disney, because Ryan Reynolds is king at marketing, that couldn’t have been his choice. The film releases in just a few days, they could have shown it after opening weekend.
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I heard that when it came to Batman v Superman, the trailer editor didn’t want to show Doomsday, but the studio pressured them into doing it anyways.
Knowing doomsday is in the movie isn’t a spoiler tho lol
There was a Cast Away trailer that reveals Tom Hanks character survived and escaped the island. That is the only major spoiler I've really seen in a trailer
That’s awful, really?
Terminator Salvation did that too with the Sam Worthington machine reveal.
Personally, I think it depends on the movie, what the major reveals/moments of said movie are, and the context behind all of it, including hype and speculation (which can be good or bad depending on how we handle it). Some trailers do a good job of giving us a sense of the overall tone and story of a movie without giving too much away while others don’t.
One of the trailers for Batman v Superman showed Doomsday AND Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman all together ready to fight him, which not only kinda spoiled the villain and their team up, but gave away the 3rd act resolution of the movie. We all went into it KNOWING that Batman and Superman were gonna be at odds and eventually team up with WW to fight Doomsday. I didn’t really like the movie itself all that much. But, I think those reveals would’ve been much more satisfying to experience in the actual movie.
On the other hand, the Spider-Man: No Way Home trailer confirmed a lot of the rumors and speculation about villains from Sony Spider-Man movies coming back and being a somewhat Spider-Verse story, but also gave a good sense of the story and tone without revealing Tobey and Andrew coming back (which was the main thing building hype for the movie). We all went in hoping it was true and literally cheered when it actually happened. That was extremely satisfying to experience in the movie.
As far as the D&W Final Trailer, I would’ve preferred seeing X-23 in the movie, especially since the movie is less than a week away. But, I don’t think it’s necessarily a spoiler. Given the type of movie this is, (a multiversal extravaganza with lots of fun cameos, cool moments, and characters popping in and out) and X-23's already established relationship with Wolverine in Logan (in which she played a big part), it's not all that surprising to me that she'd appear in this one. Hell, I think a lot of us would’ve been surprised to not see her in it. I think it would’ve been a spoiler if we saw her in her classic blue and yellow suit and mask from the comics because that’s a more significant reveal for me. But, I don’t think there's even a whole lot of speculation or hype around her being in it.
Now, if Hulk is in the movie and we get a Hulk vs. Wolverine fight, THAT is a huge reveal/moment that we all want to experience in the actual movie and don’t want to be spoiled in a trailer. Because there’s a lot of hype and speculation around it, it’s something huge from the comics we’ve never seen in live-action and a potential major reveal or moment.
A spoiler is any information about what is in a movie that the studio has not publicly released. So I agree that anything in a trailer is fair game to discuss on your show. However, when a viewer asked a question about a rumour of a certain character returning to the MCU and you then confirm (based on 2 of your sources) that the rumour is true and also divulge which movie that character will be in then that is a spoiler. It’s not news and it hasn’t been confirmed by the studio or trades. It’s your show so you are at liberty to talk about anything you want but at the very least should there not have been a spoiler warning for your viewers?
I 1000% agree that Dafne Keen's X-23 should NOT have been included in that final trailer because I honestly do think that the Logan/Wolverine in general fan crowd would have shown up regardless, PURELY for Hugh Jackman alone, and even more so now that he is wearing the comic accurate outfit, hence why they showed that off over a year ago. I think that is why ALOT of people are showing up to this movie. Look, Deadpool 3 was going to do just as well, if not slightly better than Deadpool 1 and 2 (now that he is in the MCU), regardless of if Hugh Jackman was in it or not, but adding him in automatically brings in the Wolverine/OG X-Men crowd. X-23 in the trailer specifically WAS NOT NEEDED! We all speculated and assumed she WOULD be in the movie, but the reveal IN THE THEATRE would have been way better.
It is.
Sony and Garfield played it smart. Drop some leaks, but doesn't confirm. Builds speculations. This goes for months.
Disney spoils this a week before release. Like why? It's just a week more. It's like desperation, the whole marketing in fact.
A spoiler, to me, is anything that gives away a portion of a film or can be used to make an inference of a plot point of the movie. The example I use is the Ant Man 3 trailer in which Scott tells Kang that they both have to lose. This easily implies that Scott’s plan is to stay in the quantum realm. X-23 being in the film, to me, gives away a potential plot point of the film such as the Ant man trailer
I dont have a perfect analogy for revaling X-23. This is closest i came. Imagine John, you play a lottery or something alike, they call you to tell you you won, but in a week you need to come to their show where you will be with other participants, and when they announce you wan you need to act surprised and exciting. But you already knew it, that kinda ruin surprise youd feel
Personally I don't consider an spoiler the fact that they showed Laura on the trailer because it was one shot of her saying, what we all can agree on, a cool line. But we didn't know why she's there or the implications of her role in the movie, but at the same same time we also expected that having Laura back meant some cool fights scenes and and service (like putting her sunglasses on). I don't think it affects the movie going experience of most people BUT it would've been a really nice surprise that Disney could've kept for the premiere
For me? Yes. I saw only first teaser. I love watching movies and be suprised by:)
When The Force Awakens was about 2 days from being opened to the world, I happened to be scrolling on my news feed. I clicked on a baking page that had zero tp do with Star Wars... hell it had nothing to do with movies at all. I went to the comment section and the first comment was a pic of Kylo Ren stabbing Han with a lighsaber and the caption saying" Kylo is Hans Son and kills him". Like what the hell. Lol IT WAS A BAKING PAGE!!! From that day forward, I stay away from youtube and facebook when early screenings happen until I watch it myself.
Wasn’t there some law that passed not too long ago that made it illegal to show “deceptive” movie trailers?
Regarding X23 in the trailer, I agree with you John about what makes a spoiler a spoiler. For this particular movie, I personally would have preferred if she wasn't shown (and I haven't watched that trailer btw, it was Variety's post that spoiled it for me). That said, my gf was coming with me to watch the movie but she wasn't excited about it. Until she saw Dafne Keen. And my sister who was on the fence on watching it in theaters, decided to come with us on Friday's showing.
Should things in thumbnails be considered spoilers? 🤔
It is not a spoiler. It was studio announced public and global information.
@@johncampeaJohn, you mentioned that things in trailers cannot be spoilers because they’re in the trailer. So if in a trailer to The Sixth Sense they made it explicitly clear that Bruce Willis’ character is dead and has been dead the entire time, would it not be considered a spoiler because “it’s in the trailer” despite the knowledge “it fundamentally changes [your] entire viewing of that film”?
If, before you got a chance to see the movie, a random person had told you that he’s dead, is that a spoiler, but if the trailer said the exact same thing is it not a spoiler?
I think the longlegs trailer and the way they do trailers for nolan films is pretty much the way to go. Kind of tows that line where the teaser tells you almost nothing and more is gradually revealed by the final trailer while still not getting the full story of the film.
I wonder how people would have reacted if X-23 was in the first Deadpool 3 trailer, would people then have considered it a spoiler? My guess would be no, so this should literally be no difference. Like yeah this is very complicated. But I think John is 100% in the right here.
Absolutely they are ruining movies by releasing way to much in the trailers. Movie trailers are more like highlight reels now.
I think that if u have it in the main trailers it isn’t a spoiler. But if it’s in tv spots it could be considered to be spoilers. E.g. Captain Carter being in Doctor Strange MOM
Twisters is about to be silenced by the merc with a mouth 🤣
After Secret Invasion's first episode, I mentioned at work that I quite liked it, and I wondered who would turn out to be a Skrull. My work buddy said I'd spoiled it for him. I pointed out that is exactly what the show was about. He was still angry though.
There was a trailer that was released for a shark movie 2 weeks ago. It literally showed the whole story in 2 minutes. That in by itself is a huge spoiler so it depends on movie by movie. There's no one size fits all for what is a spoiler in a trailer.
Seems the best approach of action to avoid news and spoiling it for the fan experience is to unsubscribe and avoid getting notifications from various outlets.
In the comics, when X-23 becomes Wolverine, she's taking over for a known Wolverine, it means nothing for her to take the place of someone that isn't a character in the MCU yet. If anything, she could take the place of a side character with many implications, like Iron Man 2 Black Widow.
They wanted to get every x23 and logan fan in the theatres with that last minute trailer
Marvel saying they won’t touch the ending of Logan and then showing X23 from Logan in the trailer is a mixed bag by default. Spoiler? Not necessarily but it would’ve been a wonderful surprise that has been stripped from the audience. Now, the movie experience will be one surprise less wonderful
I would say that if something is in a trailer BEFORE the world premiere (Monday), fair game and not a spoiler. However I would say that if it is in a spot released AFTER the movie has been seen by audiences, it can be considered a spoiler. So for example, when the first Ant-Man was released I was at Disneyland for vacation, iirc it was released on Disneyland's 60th anniversary so I wasn't going to see the movie on opening day, but I was instead in the parks but I did go to see the short preview they were playing in the Bug's Life theater at the time. Well then a couple days later the rest of my group was going to Universal for the day while I was taking a rest day. I had the TV on and saw a spot for the movie that showed Falcon's cameo, and up until that spot, I hadn't seen any marketing teasing his involvement and I was annoyed that I saw that in a TV spot rather than when I saw the movie and it actually drove me to go over to Downtown Disney and watch the movie that day so that nothing else could be spoiled for me.
As to the Pyro vs X23 discussion, I would guess the difference is that Pyro is a character most of the audience won't care about, while a lot of people will be very excited about X23.
On the second question, I would say that if you REALLY care about not getting a movie spoiled, then you really need to mute any and all phrases you can think of that would be connected to the movie until you have gotten to see it so that you can avoid seeing it. But also don't get mad at the people next to you that watched the trailers and know the names of new characters for mentioning who they're most excited about. I legit had somebody complain to me at my first screening of Force Awakens because they hadn't seen ANY of the marketing for the movie and I was telling my friend that I thought BB8 looked like an adorable new droid.
I completely disagree that Avengers Infinity War and Endgame are two separate standalone movies. Avengers 1 and Age of Ultron are separate standalone movies because they have completely separate villains (Loki and Ultron) and storylines (aside from the massive overall storyline of the entire MCU as a whole). Avengers Infinity War and Endgame have the exact same villain being Thanos and Endgame literally picks up EXACTLY where Infinity War left off. Sure, the movie itself opens with Hawkeye and his family rather than the characters we saw at the end of Infinity War, but the opening 2 minute scene ends with Clint's entire family being dusted, which is exactly what happened at the end of Infinity War and the entirety of Endgame is about undoing what Thanos did. You could watch Avengers Age of Ultron without having watched Avengers 1 and be completely fine and know what is going on, whereas you would have a very hard time following what is happening in Endgame if you didn't see Infinity War, making them essentially a part 1 and part 2 without being called part 1 and part 2. Hell, Infinity War LITTERALLY was announced as being a part 1 and part 2 in 2014 by Feige on stage in the El Capitan theatre.
The Russos and Kevin Feige both said they are two independent films.
@@johncampea Yeah I don't care what they say. They can say that all they want, but it's obvious that they are wrong and clearly don't understand their own movies that they made if that's the case. Anyone with a functioning brain can clearly see that Infinity War and Endgame are interconnected are the same story split across two films. Everything from Professor Hulk storyline to Tony, Pepper and Morgan's storyline, to Captain America's storyline and way more. They all carry over from one film to the next. It is so damn obvious. So yeah, The Russos can be in denial all they want, it doesn't change the facts. If both movies were completely separate, they wouldn't have been shot back to back and released one year apart from eachother instead of the 3 years between Avengers 1 and Ultron and Ultron and Infinity War.
How can a filmmaker be wrong about their own movie?
Problem is, that trailer or even stuff like comic-con often reveal too much
Well i guess you answered the Q in your thumbnail. I tried to avoid any info after the first trailer, but thanks to you i now have one surprise ruined. Ask the Q, have the discussion, but don't ruin it in the thumbnail. Still love your show.
Thank you john for bringing this up... I was pretty pissed off that they done that with X-23, not so much with sabertooth, I have been avoiding all the trailers apart from the first. Yet I still know that lady deadpool is in it and x-23, the reveal of x-23 in the trailer is really going to dampen the reveal in the movie, im not going to be "ITS X-23!!!" mid film now
The way i see it X-23 may very well be a major character in this movie and they wanted to get ahead of it before it was spoiled through red carpet or what be it. I think the big spoilers are still under wraps
I know that the movie wasn't very good but do you all remember the trailer for The Hobbit: Tha Battle of the Five Armies? It's genuinely one of the greatest trailers of all time, because it tells you nothing about the plot besides the titular battle, and it has enough of drama to lure you into watching the movie.
What do you mean July 26!!! Thats a spoiler John!!
90s and early 2000s movie trailers spoiled EVERYTHING all the time 😂
Indeed they did
You can talk about whatever topics you want. It's your show. But putting something like X23 in your title and thumbnail is like running through the streets with a megaphone screaming something that some people don't want to know. It's just about taking those people into consideration. Sure, it's their job to stay away, but is it your job to make it harder for them? Just like when the Fantastic Four story popped and you didn't put Silver Surfer in your title or Shalla Bal in your thumbnail. I don't see that as a spoiler just using one of your examples. People had the option to not watch that video
Once a studio publicly announces to the world a piece of information (in a statement or in a trailer) then it is now NEWS. It's not secret information or a scoop or a leak. It... is... NEWS. Public, open, global news. If you don't want to know the news, get off the internet. That you find it hard to understand why a movie news show, would title a story about a piece of movie news is absolutely dumbfounding.
@@johncampea I disagree, but hey, it's your show. Appreciate everything you do❤️
@@johncampea I agree for the most part, I think people are annoyed with this particular news, because it comes out 4 days before release, people like to be surprised in a movie. I am not annoyed with people covering the news at all.. More annoyed with the studio releasing the news with a few days till release. Anyway, thank you john, its an interesting debate. been watching you since collider days
@@johncampeatrailers are news, too. People tend to avoid them to go in blind. Especially anything after the first trailer. I watched the first DP trailer and that’s all. I found out about X-23 because ScreenRant said Marvel spoils X-23 in trailer in a big ass post. I think it could be just as effective to simply say on your post that major cameo revealed in trailer and not to put a whole thumbnail of it. Then I have the choice to leap in to see or keep avoiding it.
@@olajujuan exactly
My thoughts about spoilers from trailers, I usually only watch the first few trailers but I don't watch the 1 minute long trailers. I do not think you should use an appearance from a trailer in the headline of one of your podcasts. I tend to avoid discussions of the trailers just in case I decided not to watch it. I do not like I was being spoiled about x-23 appearance in the Deadpool & wolverine.
Watch John start doing clickbait titles- "You'll NEVER guess who's in the new Deadpool movie" *pokemon silhouette with a question mark
It’s not a spoiler, but the thing is that people CHOOSE to watch the trailer. CHOOSE to watch the videos where people talk about it.
I know every character that appears in the movie is gonna be a surprise, so I didn’t watch any trailer after the first one and I actively avoid clicking on videos that talk about a new trailer or a leak, but a thumbnail you can’t avoid.
Yes you can avoid it, by not going on TH-cam. Once a studio announces a piece of information publicly to the world (either in a statement or in a trailer) it is now NEWS. It’s not rumor, or theory, or leak… it is NEWS. Public news. If you want to avoid the news, then the responsibility is on YOU to avoid it. You can’t go surfing around TH-cam and expect to be sheltered from NEWS. If you don’t want to know public, global, common knowledge news, then it’s not anyone’s job to shield you from it. It’s on you to stay off social media and TH-cam.
@@johncampea damn John, so many years hoping you’d reply to one of my comments and it ends up being to the one comment where I disagree with you? 😂
To be fair you blurted out that Wesley Snipes was in Deadpool weeks ago because you couldnt help yourself letting people know that you had information on this movie... none of that was in the trailer but you still went ahead and said it
1:38:05 Richard Dean Anderson
the wolverine that deadpool finds and goes on adventures with is from the mcu and hence, theres no xmen. they all died somehow and it was wolverines fault. its a big reach
That last Alien Romulus trailer showed alot of character deaths
Thanks for the heads up
Oh no people die in a alien movie ohh no
@@adrianvillafana9245 the point is the trailer revealed too much, not the fact characters die
I see headlines saying "this trailer spoils a character in the movie". I'm like.... no, that's not a spoiler if its intended to be seen lol
Wait, Bruce Willis was dead? Unbreakable is a whole new movie now.
Trailers ruin all their surprises. You have two teasers, two main trailers and a final trailer. It's too much.
The only reason people are making a big deal out of this is because Dafne Keen denied being in the film. It's really not that big a reveal since most of us figured she'd be in it anyways. If it's in the trailer it's not a spoiler and it's fair game to talk about it. It's weird we're even having this conversation.
Because people get upset about every little thing for no reason.
Tbh when x23 enters the movie, the theater is gunna pop anyways
Movie going in the US must be so fun. Guarantee when x23 comes on screen in an Irish theatre not a single soul will bat an eye
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i want homlander to Snap kill half the people and then snap takes him on an adventure like Incorruptible's Max Damage and becomes the good guy.
I totally agree with you, John. I totally get why us movie/tv/genre fan folks can want to be surprised, but at a certain point news is news and you’re an film and entertainment/pop culture news show host. If people see the type of content you make and watch your videos and feel spoiled that’s on them
John you have such a great point on this manner. I 100% agree with you all the way. I didn't mind if I saw X-23 in the Trailer. I think that would super upgrade the HYPE for this movie. Especially for "LOGAN" fans.
39:58 ppl always describe Captain America The Winter Soldier as a "70s political thriller".
Why is that? Are there specific 70s movies that remind audiences of The Winter Soldier or vice versa?
I think All The President's Men, The Candidate, 3 Days of The Condor. No coincidence, these all star Robert Redford as well.
I say they're wrong. CA: Winter Soldier is a conspiracy thriller.
3 Days of the Condor, All the Presidents Men are conspiracy thrillers. Political thriller is like Thirteen Days.
@@EricTheSaylorman thanks for the reply. I was starting to think ppl just liked conforming and recycling that phrase/description
Juat because the studio puts something in a trailer, that doesnt automatically discount it as a spoiler. Some studios will put any surprise character or plot point in a trailer if they think it will get them extra money. It's absolutely shameless and hurts the integrity of the art.
But by that logic, isn’t EVERYTHING in a trailer a spoiler then? Every character in a movie is a surprise until it isn’t.
@johncampea no of course not. Some just go put too much in there. And I know the definition of 'too much' is totally subjective. I'm not complaining, it's just something we have to deal with as film fans. Everyone's gonna have their own limits and preferences when it comes to this stuff and it's no.big deal. At the end of the day we either get a good fun movie or we don't.
Then why do you not cover the latest episodes on your show everyday instead of waiting for the day after? I agree with you, but you should then stick to your analogy of everything officially released being news.
You raise a very good point. But let me challenge it by saying this. A trailer is not the same as an episode of a TV show. A trailer is not the art, it’s an advertisement for the art. A trailer is an announcement of the art, not the art itself. A trailer is 2 minutes, an episode is (or can be) an hour long. When an episode drops (sometimes at midnight) most people don’t have a chance to see it by the morning… because it isn’t 2 minutes, it’s an hour… so I like to give people a day to see it. But again, a trailer is different. It’s a announcement. A piece of marketing. A thing used to promote the art, not the art itself, and thus it doesn’t need to be hidden on its own.
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John your opinion is challenging my opinion regarding what a spoiler is. Gone bye jk. I agree with you
I think as a movie fan yourself, you should be more considerate of ALL of your viewers because you know there are a lot of us that like to go into things blindly. Instead of coming off as “oh well” to your fans, it’s just as easy to have that care for those that don’t want to have things spoiled in anyway. You also have to remember that not everyone has seen everything. When the 24 movie news came out, I put a friend on and said he needs to watch. He has been on season 1. He also watches your show. I’m sure you get where I’m going here. I don’t know, it just comes off as “so what” to the people that support you.
ottomh, the trailer of Terminator Genisys spoiled the movie for me.
people have literally told you they were done watching trailers to avoid such things, but then you put it right in their face anyway. talk about it yes, but be a little sensitive to some that might be avoiding those last trailers and tv spots
ALL TRAILERS!!! are spoilers... To Be Real!
why not put a question mark over X23 face in the tumbnail? The people who saw the trailer will know what it is about and the people who don't want to get ''spoiled'' will know not to click on the video. Easy solution.
Because it's news. Once a studio publicly makes information available to tne entire world, it is now NEWS. It's not a rumor, or a report, or a leak... it's news. A movie news show should be able to put NEWS in a title and thumbnail. It's not rocket science.
@@johncampeawould a middle ground be something along the lines of the video title being “ deadpool and wolverine reveal major featured character in final trailer “ with the above mentioned question mark on the thumbnail ? That way giving an indication of the news itself while potentially reducing chances of people want to go in a little more blind getting spoiled ?
It’s definitely a tricky balance I’m sure.
I understand your comparisons to pyro but I think that’s a lot less of a big deal to people than x23 due to how major that character is.
Regardless. It was a fantastic trailer ! Personally I would have preferred they kept that as a surprise for the audience but I understand the marketing team are ultimately just trying to sell the film.
Thanks for the great content John!
Comic con starts this Thursday I do can’t wait for the animation announcements
And there doing a transformers one panel there going to show a new trailer there
My issue is I should be allowed to choose to avoid certain trailers, but then every news outlet has to put the contents of the trailer in their article titles. Avoiding TH-cam and Twitter is one thing but Facebook and Google showing me these articles when I'm not even subscribed to those pages is not fair at all.
If you gonna cry bout it get off the internet.
The trailer for Castaway explicitly tells the viewer that Tom Hanks ends up getting rescued and heads back to the states
Don't worry john and crew people are only complaining about deadpool spoilers cause they are extremely excited and can't contain it 😂
Ralph Fiennes? Rey?
think i got lost there
It's spelled Ralph, but pronounced Rafe.
Why does everyone consider showing X-23 a spoiler, but not Sabretooth?
Because it was believed that she wasn’t in the movie at all. When it was announced just days away that she was, it takes away that surprise to see her in the film when it happens.
@@olajujuan When you say that it was believed that she wasn't in the film, who exactly are you talking about? Certainly not me because I always thought that there was a very decent chance she would be in it from the very beginning. Please don't speak for other people.
@@isaacbeeby2528 she said out of her mouth that she wasn’t in the film and was disappointed about it. There were outlets that covered her not being a part of the film.
@@olajujuan HAHAHAHAHAHA! You actually believe anything that comes out of the mouths of anyone working for the major entertainment news outlets? These are the same people who told us for a year before No Way Home came out that Andrew Garfield was NOT in the movie, despite the countless set picture leaks and are now saying the exact same thing about Taylor Swift NOT being in Deadpool and Wolverine when literally every indication shows that she is. All you have to do is look at the posters that have her friendship bracelets and necklaces plastered all over them, the fact that she was constantly hanging out with Hugh, Ryan, Blake and Shawn for a year at her boyfriends NFL games and that she even posted a picture of the three of them to her Instagram calling them her coworkers. If you believe anything that THR, Deadline, Variety, IGN etc. reports on in the world of movie news and scoops, you are a certifiable dumbass.
You’re more mad at the studio for showing her then her straight up lying lol
Talking about them no, putting images in thumb nails or headlines make you a bit of a ass.
I was trying tonot watch these trailers as they started giving too much away lately.... but then pow I get a thumb nail just because I watch your stuff........ thanks
Once a studio publicly announces to the world a piece of information (in a statement or in a trailer) then it is now NEWS. It's not secret information or a scoop or a leak. It... is... NEWS. Public, open, global news. If you don't want to know the news, get off the internet. That you find it hard to understand why a movie news show, would title a story about a piece of movie news is absolutely dumbfounding.
@@johncampea ok , but A) i have been able to avoid while on the interent spoiler i didnt want from the actuall trailers... because not in thumb nails, everone else i follow talking about movie, because they chose smarter thumb nails and titles.
and B) you could have easily just put a different thumb nail and made the same video no problem that you find it hard to understand you could have made the same video in away that people would have had to click on it to get what could be considered spoilers is dumbfounding.... the irony of this happing based on the topic cant be lost on you right?
dispite attacking me you have to know these is an agument that your wrong, its the subject of this video.
but sure dont take any ownership and explain to me why its my fault again.......
just say terminator genyses that was spoilery
ABSOLUTELY 100% NOT. I don't give a #### if you put it in your thumbnail cuz you are doing it to say "HEY we are going to be talking about blank topic that's in the newest marketing. " The studio has put it in the marketing. Period. It's allowed to be discussed. If you are going to watch and follow and listen to all these channels who do nothing but talk about these kinds of topics then this problem is on you. If this bothers you so much you you have reached the point where you literally expect the world of not only film, but news and social media to literally revolve around you and that's beyond pathetic.
How can John be so arrogant
He's an Italian Canadian, 'nuff said.....
If you use your common sense then you can figure out what is going to be considered a spoiler to most people. Putting something like that in your thumbnail is not using common sense and instead looking for views.
Here's my thought on X-23 in the trailer..... was it a spoiler? Nah. But majority of the people that ABSOLUTELY loved her in Logan would have rather now known that she was in it. Is Pyro any different? In a sense of a spoiler, absolutely not. But X-23 means much more to the majority of fans these days than Pyro.
the Dinsey plus shows are all seem designed for 6 year old children.
It depends on the person but I think at this point if you watch the trailer chances are great that you will see something you wish you hadn’t. So I feel it’s on you if you press play on the trailer. Having said that, I think in the case of Deadpool there seems to be so much more they aren’t showing that I think it’s fine. I wish I didn’t watch the Abigale trailer but I did. Movie still rocked but it would have been cool to not know what the trailer told you. Last point, if Campea is reviewing a trailer and you’re sensitive and don’t watch trailers then don’t watch trailer reviews.