Comparing the Equinox to Seascape is like comparing Apples and Orange. Apex will be very different and I look forward to more equitable comparison. You have increased my curiosity enough to consider a Newer MSC ship.
@@richardepifer Thank you for watching! I'm confident the Retreat on the Apex will be a better experience than it was on the Equinox (though we still had a great cruise) so I'm looking forward to updating the review following that! We are actually sailing in a Sanctuary Suite on the Sun Princess side-by-side with the Apex so I'm sure I'll be doing a comparison with that as well. Happy sails!
@@ameliasmith8383 In the research I did before booking, it seemed people more consistently liked the Retreat on the Apex and Edge because they say it's less crowded vs it being bigger and having more people on the Beyond and Ascent.
Ah yes, you're right, that's definitely a key differentiator. I'll be updating this after we sail on the Apex and I'll be sure to include it in that. Thank you!
Nice video! Appreciated it. Regarding the MSC Y/C keep in mind that the older MSC ships that have Y/C are a different experience regarding both the cabins and the Y/C restaurant. The cabins are way smaller, a bit old-fashioned and the restaurant is separated from the Y/C at the aft.
@@micheltravelstheworld The rooms don't matter much to me personally but I know they do to a lot of people. I'll probably do Divina someday to experience one of the older ships. Thanks for watching!
Celebrity Beyond in a Royal Suite is my favorite cruise and ship ever. The Yacht Club is really nice, but the food and entertainment is far superior on Celebrity. Entertainment on MSC is amateur and strange. We also love the fact that the rest of the ship on Beyond is amazing, in design and layout. MSC felt so crowded everywhere outside of the YC.
@@ashleys4652 I definitely agree entertainment is better on Celebrity but that's not exclusive to the Retreat so it was not considered in this review. We are doing the Apex in the Retreat in November so I'm looking forward to seeing how that compares. Thanks for watching!
We used to sail exclusively on celebrity. Tried NCL Haven and then MSC Yacht Club. Never went back to celebrity because it was too boring the food was mediocre and nearly getting crushed in an elevator by a crazed old lady in a motorized wheelchair sealed the deal. Haven was nice but is too expensive now just not worth it and Yacht Club is the perfect balance for us. Yacht club has everything we need topsail lounge and a separate pool deck and bar. If we get bored we have the rest of the ship which can get crowded but can also be a lot of fun. The ships are beautiful the pizza and Italian food is great and we love it. Trying Explora 1 in December. Can’t wait
Oh man, jealous you're doing Explora 1! We typically cruise with our kids and even though they're allowed on Explora, we know they'd be bored (and our fellow guests may not be thrilled)...hoping we can plan a cruise on there while they're still priced at the bargain they are. Enjoy your cruise...happy sails!
Enjoyed this channel of yours. I subscribed, looking for more future episodes. Celebrity Retreat had a lot of chair hogs on the sun deck of Edge and Beyond. Host/ butler said no to a cushioned lounger on my Royal Suite balcony. For the price we paid, we discovered we get so much more for so much less on MSC Yacht Clubs and we only go out of the private enclave for some entertainment, though the Top Sail lounge has some of the best entertainment rotated from outside the venue.
@@jamescanell2931 Celebrity definitely has some advantages outside the Retreat, but they need to do some competitive research to figure out what MSC is doing with their YC to close the gap... They're charging a premium price for what I've seen is not the same quality of experience.
Thank you for your comparison! next month i'll get on the msc yc and jan i'll enjoy the celebraty in balcony room. i'm a lucky guy for i made the best choices!
@FamilyAtSea MSC bellissima and Celebrity solstice as the next. I don't know Cocktail. but now I can order Salted Caramel Espresso Martini at yc. Thank you for your recommendation!
I figured the service would be better on MSC but it seems there is A LOT better on MSC. We have sailed YC many times and LOVE it but want more ports. We are trying Retreat for the first time in a few weeks... managing expectations. I heard from staff at MSC their prices are low now as they are trying to get into the western market but will rise in the coming years. Enjoy now. Great Review!
@@TheDazzlingTootsie-we8jr Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate that! Celebrity as a whole is fantastic and while we prefer the YC to the Retreat, Celebrity has many of their own advantages once you get beyond the Retreat and into the rest of the ship. I'm sure you have an amazing time... Smooth seas and happy sails!
Very informative and answered a lot of my questions about those premium areas on the ships! Just got off the MSC Seashore and while better than expected it did feel over crowded and now would only consider The Yacht Club on any MSC in the future.
@FamilyAtSea Thank you. My daughter and I have only been on one cruise, but we are looking forward to cruising more. Your videos are helping with that momentum 🤣🥳
@@ashara1na The suites are great but you can absolutely have a fantastic cruise outside the suites as well! I hope you guys are able to enjoy another one soon... We cherish the memories we're making with our kids and I'm sure you will as well!
Great video! Thank you. Happy to be a new subscriber. You make such valuable points about the two experiences. Haters making negative comments really missed the point, which was to compare the highest level of amenities on two different ships. I think that it was made very clear that Equinox is an older ship. Anyway, I think you'll like Apex for it's ship-in-ship concept, but S class will continue to be my go-to...when I'm not on MSC, that is! Thank you for taking the time! Pipercat....aka Georgia Peaches!
We're very much looking forward to our experience on the Apex! Although we prefer YC to the Retreat, we still love Celebrity for its own reasons. Thanks for watching and happy sails! I'll see you over on that other site 😛
@@LynL-u4f I mention that a couple times in my video... We'll be sailing on the Apex in the Retreat in November so I will update following that. With that said - the Retreat sailing on the Equinox was more than our YC sailing on the Seascape and Seashore so based on the price, I do think it's a fair comparison! We still love Celebrity, but I'd recommend Aqua-class instead of the Retreat based on our experience on the Equinox (Blu was much better than Luminae).
Our favorite cruise line used to be Celebrity. Our favorite ship was the Equinox. We appreciated the design changes in the Edge class but they did not go far enough.Retreat is not a ship within a ship. We sailed in Penthouse, Royal Suite, and Edge Villa. The host butlers were good, until we tried MSC Yacht Clubs which were exceptional. Luminae the service was outstanding, and I loved the food. But I have a very picky DW and she had indigestion every night. Luminae is not open port days so we tried Le Bistro? Not my cup of tea. The best venue of Celebrity unmatched on land or sea is Cafe Al Bacio. The only venue I miss. We tried MSC Yacht Club and it was bye bye Celebrity. DW’s indigestion disappeared when on MSC ships. She won’t go on Celebrity again.
@@jamescanell2931 We still love Celebrity's full experience, but if the Retreat doesn't prove to be worth the premium on the Apex, we will likely stick to Aqua-class on Celebrity moving forward.
@@sandrarums9405 I gave an honest review, but I'll give an updated review after we sail on the Apex in the Retreat in November. The sailing on the Equinox was 30% more per night than it was on MSC so it's not as if things were priced at a discount (that would have changed things). We love Celebrity, but I stand by my recommendation to save the money on the Retreat and book Aqua-class instead. Hopefully what we experience on the Apex in November will justify changing our opinion!
Stop watching this video. Compare a Revolutionized ship. You are giving a false comparison. Although X does need to complete the Revolution to compete.
@@mrcblaser That would only be a valid point if Celebrity was charging less money for the Retreat on the Equinox, but it was 30% more than sailing in the YC so it was a very fair and unbiased review. As stated in the video, I will update following our upcoming sailing on the Apex in the Retreat!
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Comparing the Equinox to Seascape is like comparing Apples and Orange. Apex will be very different and I look forward to more equitable comparison. You have increased my curiosity enough to consider a Newer MSC ship.
@@richardepifer Thank you for watching!
I'm confident the Retreat on the Apex will be a better experience than it was on the Equinox (though we still had a great cruise) so I'm looking forward to updating the review following that!
We are actually sailing in a Sanctuary Suite on the Sun Princess side-by-side with the Apex so I'm sure I'll be doing a comparison with that as well.
Happy sails!
Need to go on the beyond or ascent to compare. Been on both and celebrity wins with consistency.
@@ameliasmith8383 In the research I did before booking, it seemed people more consistently liked the Retreat on the Apex and Edge because they say it's less crowded vs it being bigger and having more people on the Beyond and Ascent.
But he didn't compare ships...he compared experiences.
Important to mention that unlimited Thermal Spa access is also included with Yacht Club.
Ah yes, you're right, that's definitely a key differentiator.
I'll be updating this after we sail on the Apex and I'll be sure to include it in that.
Thank you!
@@FamilyAtSea Spa is also included on Celebrity for Royal Suites and higher.
@@richardepifer You are right about that, though that also obviously increases the price pretty significantly as well!
Nice video! Appreciated it. Regarding the MSC Y/C keep in mind that the older MSC ships that have Y/C are a different experience regarding both the cabins and the Y/C restaurant. The cabins are way smaller, a bit old-fashioned and the restaurant is separated from the Y/C at the aft.
@@micheltravelstheworld The rooms don't matter much to me personally but I know they do to a lot of people.
I'll probably do Divina someday to experience one of the older ships.
Thanks for watching!
Celebrity Beyond in a Royal Suite is my favorite cruise and ship ever. The Yacht Club is really nice, but the food and entertainment is far superior on Celebrity. Entertainment on MSC is amateur and strange. We also love the fact that the rest of the ship on Beyond is amazing, in design and layout. MSC felt so crowded everywhere outside of the YC.
@@ashleys4652 I definitely agree entertainment is better on Celebrity but that's not exclusive to the Retreat so it was not considered in this review.
We are doing the Apex in the Retreat in November so I'm looking forward to seeing how that compares.
Thanks for watching!
We used to sail exclusively on celebrity. Tried NCL Haven and then MSC Yacht Club. Never went back to celebrity because it was too boring the food was mediocre and nearly getting crushed in an elevator by a crazed old lady in a motorized wheelchair sealed the deal. Haven was nice but is too expensive now just not worth it and Yacht Club is the perfect balance for us. Yacht club has everything we need topsail lounge and a separate pool deck and bar. If we get bored we have the rest of the ship which can get crowded but can also be a lot of fun. The ships are beautiful the pizza and Italian food is great and we love it. Trying Explora 1 in December. Can’t wait
Oh man, jealous you're doing Explora 1! We typically cruise with our kids and even though they're allowed on Explora, we know they'd be bored (and our fellow guests may not be thrilled)...hoping we can plan a cruise on there while they're still priced at the bargain they are.
Enjoy your cruise...happy sails!
Very interesting comparison, thank you. First time on MSC later this month, and in YC. Hope it is as good as your experience.
@@timothypierce8986 We've never had a less than stellar experience in the YC... Happy sails!
What ship will you be on?
Enjoyed this channel of yours. I subscribed, looking for more future episodes. Celebrity Retreat had a lot of chair hogs on the sun deck of Edge and Beyond. Host/ butler said no to a cushioned lounger on my Royal Suite balcony. For the price we paid, we discovered we get so much more for so much less on MSC Yacht Clubs and we only go out of the private enclave for some entertainment, though the Top Sail lounge has some of the best entertainment rotated from outside the venue.
@@jamescanell2931 Celebrity definitely has some advantages outside the Retreat, but they need to do some competitive research to figure out what MSC is doing with their YC to close the gap... They're charging a premium price for what I've seen is not the same quality of experience.
Thank you for your comparison! next month i'll get on the msc yc and jan i'll enjoy the celebraty in balcony room. i'm a lucky guy for i made the best choices!
@@MrGibbYoung You'll have an amazing experience on both!! Which ships will you be on?
@FamilyAtSea MSC bellissima and Celebrity solstice as the next.
I don't know Cocktail. but now I can order Salted Caramel Espresso Martini at yc. Thank you for your recommendation!
@@MrGibbYoung Happy sails!
I figured the service would be better on MSC but it seems there is A LOT better on MSC. We have sailed YC many times and LOVE it but want more ports. We are trying Retreat for the first time in a few weeks... managing expectations. I heard from staff at MSC their prices are low now as they are trying to get into the western market but will rise in the coming years. Enjoy now. Great Review!
@@TheDazzlingTootsie-we8jr Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate that!
Celebrity as a whole is fantastic and while we prefer the YC to the Retreat, Celebrity has many of their own advantages once you get beyond the Retreat and into the rest of the ship.
I'm sure you have an amazing time... Smooth seas and happy sails!
Way to think about MSC (at any level), 90% service for 60% of the price.
@@joelashdod7712 Absolutely!
Very informative and answered a lot of my questions about those premium areas on the ships! Just got off the MSC Seashore and while better than expected it did feel over crowded and now would only consider The Yacht Club on any MSC in the future.
@@bftime1 YC is definitely the way to go on MSC... Happy sails!
Thank you. I would love a luxury trip at sea 🎉looking forward to sailing with both
@@ashara1na Some experiences are better than others, but they're all amazing!
Smooth seas and happy sails wherever you cruise next!
@FamilyAtSea Thank you. My daughter and I have only been on one cruise, but we are looking forward to cruising more. Your videos are helping with that momentum 🤣🥳
@@ashara1na The suites are great but you can absolutely have a fantastic cruise outside the suites as well!
I hope you guys are able to enjoy another one soon... We cherish the memories we're making with our kids and I'm sure you will as well!
@@FamilyAtSea Yes. Thank you. I will report back, hopefully soon ❤️
@@ashara1na Looking forward to it! 🫶
Very valuable info.
@@martinshields5673 Happy it helps... Thank you for watching and happy sails wherever you venture next!
Great video! Thank you. Happy to be a new subscriber. You make such valuable points about the two experiences. Haters making negative comments really missed the point, which was to compare the highest level of amenities on two different ships. I think that it was made very clear that Equinox is an older ship. Anyway, I think you'll like Apex for it's ship-in-ship concept, but S class will continue to be my go-to...when I'm not on MSC, that is!
Thank you for taking the time! Pipercat....aka Georgia Peaches!
We're very much looking forward to our experience on the Apex!
Although we prefer YC to the Retreat, we still love Celebrity for its own reasons.
Thanks for watching and happy sails! I'll see you over on that other site 😛
We have sailed MSC YC and it’s not fair to compare to Equinox. Prob best to compare an Edge Class ship.
@@LynL-u4f I mention that a couple times in my video... We'll be sailing on the Apex in the Retreat in November so I will update following that.
With that said - the Retreat sailing on the Equinox was more than our YC sailing on the Seascape and Seashore so based on the price, I do think it's a fair comparison!
We still love Celebrity, but I'd recommend Aqua-class instead of the Retreat based on our experience on the Equinox (Blu was much better than Luminae).
Our favorite cruise line used to be Celebrity. Our favorite ship was the Equinox. We appreciated the design changes in the Edge class but they did not go far enough.Retreat is not a ship within a ship. We sailed in Penthouse, Royal Suite, and Edge Villa. The host butlers were good, until we tried MSC Yacht Clubs which were exceptional. Luminae the service was outstanding, and I loved the food. But I have a very picky DW and she had indigestion every night. Luminae is not open port days so we tried Le Bistro? Not my cup of tea. The best venue of Celebrity unmatched on land or sea is Cafe Al Bacio. The only venue I miss. We tried MSC Yacht Club and it was bye bye Celebrity. DW’s indigestion disappeared when on MSC ships. She won’t go on Celebrity again.
P.S. I told her let’s try the new Beyond, which we did. It turned out Edge was better.
@@jamescanell2931 We still love Celebrity's full experience, but if the Retreat doesn't prove to be worth the premium on the Apex, we will likely stick to Aqua-class on Celebrity moving forward.
You need to use comparable ships to give a honest review. The title had me curious, but I soon found it was totally wrong.
@@sandrarums9405 I gave an honest review, but I'll give an updated review after we sail on the Apex in the Retreat in November.
The sailing on the Equinox was 30% more per night than it was on MSC so it's not as if things were priced at a discount (that would have changed things).
We love Celebrity, but I stand by my recommendation to save the money on the Retreat and book Aqua-class instead. Hopefully what we experience on the Apex in November will justify changing our opinion!
Have a great trip but I’m out.
@@sandrarums9405 No worries, happy sails wherever you cruise next!
Stop watching this video. Compare a Revolutionized ship. You are giving a false comparison. Although X does need to complete the Revolution to compete.
@@mrcblaser That would only be a valid point if Celebrity was charging less money for the Retreat on the Equinox, but it was 30% more than sailing in the YC so it was a very fair and unbiased review.
As stated in the video, I will update following our upcoming sailing on the Apex in the Retreat!
Equinox HAS been revolutionized! It costs more than MSC and offers less.
@@piper-cat This ☝️