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Some different brands of fuel that I have used over the years! Also a link to the echo tachometer!
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MOTOMIX
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VP RACING 50:1
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TRU FUEL
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Hey folks here is
Some different brands of fuel that I have used over the years! Also a link to the echo tachometer!
Tach amzn.to/2UxLMN6
MOTOMIX
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VP RACING 50:1
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TRU FUEL
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Great video, MM1 I'm going to start running it in my equipment .
thats why glad i use motomix best feul ever plus its way less work then the little bottles of mix for the cans and feul at a gas station and later on see dirt in cans thats why im glad use stihl moto mix plus the cans of moto mix are handy fit into a pocket to take up if in a bucket cutting top of a tree off
I add Berrymans B12 to almost everything I work on and it produces amazing results. A word of caution though; if mixed too heavily or left sitting for too long, it will start to eat the rubber components. I bought an old Stihl 048 and the tank was solid varnish. Put in straight Berrymans and let sit for 48 hours. When I dumped it, that tank looks brand new.
Thanks for the heads up on letting it sit. I started using Berryman's on cheap trimmers that were really in need of carb cleaning and general maintenance. I started letting them just sit and idle with a full tank. In 15 minutes you could hear a difference in how they were running. Probably would have been even better if I had actually throttled them up. That sold me on Berryman's. I'll be careful not to let them sit up after reading this.
Circle k's in my town sell non ethanol gas, only thing I run in my mowers and equipment. Was putting it in my truck also the past 3 years but now it's over $3.50 a gallon so now I just use it for my equipment.
Wawa is $3.65 gal here. An update, it's $3.64, but I digress. Ft Pierce FL, Okeechobee Rd
You know you can quite easily wash the ethanol out of the gas, do it in small batches and it’s quite practical for the amounts used in small engines. There are lots of videos on how to do it on TH-cam.
@@johnfisher747 Add food coloring and water to gas and shake. Now let settle.
my wife loves me watching these videos at bedtime!
Not mine she says turn that sh** off! Lol
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 lol...mine screams!!
2:12am here.......yep
Mine too! Ha!
😂😂
I am still riding a 1984 2 stroke motorcycle (MZ) that I bought brand new in 1984. In the first twenty years I had to burn out the clogged muffler a few times. Since the JASO FC and FD oils came out I have not had that problem. 4 years ago, For the first time, I had to pull the engine apart to fix the gearbox. I was amazed to find very little carbon or gum on the piston or rings. Those new oils are terrific.
Pretty impressive on the exhaust port side. I'd be curious if continued use of that fuel would clean up the entire circumference of the piston skirt.
Maybe.
Whats a circumference?
Then...
Whats the circumference of a square?
As a mechanic I would tend to agree with the assumption that it's probably going to continue to become more and more clean,
I use Trufuel here because I can get it 4 cycle/2 cycle gallons much cheaper, $20 a gallon,
But in my opinion that pales in comparison to the fact that it eliminates having to constantly rebuild/clean out the carburetor,
Liquid gold for storage.
@@stclairstclair
Cars are too expensive now. .I have a 2006 (?) Pontiac grand am needing a transmission & a 99 pontiac Bonneville with a good transmission but motor is toast.
Will transmission from Bonneville work in grand Am ?
Both have legendary gm 3.8 L 6 cylinder..
Asking for a friend.
(OK, I'm not asking for a friend)
I kindly thank you for your reply in advance should you give one.
Jupiter Cyclops, Oh that is Ironic because I recently owned BOTH of these, My trans went out in one, My daughter left the other car parked on the street after I told her it would be hit if she kept leaving it on the street, some kid came along and totaled it,
You are up against a problem here, You need to "hang" the engine and trans on a fender mounted suspension rig prior to dropping
The subframe below them in order to remove that trans, This includes the rack and pinion and front struts (front end alignment required when done as well, normally this isn't a big deal, But this V6 and trans together are a BEAST in size and weight, so you will need a decent engine support tool capable for this job and you really need a lift and a decent trans jack, you cant just slide this beast of a trans out like a 4 cylinder trans job, You would have to have a shop do this work, They should swap out fine I dont see a problem there, But the cost of all of this will still probably not be worth it, and after all that you still have to hope that used trans wont fail on its own a year later, That's a hard position, my rebuilt trans worked well and did not fail, The car ended up in a junk yard with that clean trans because the entire trunk of my Pontiac rusted out and I felt it was unsafe for the wife and kids if it was to ever get rear ended there was nothing there, You have two nice cars, neither are easy to fix at home cheaply.
Keep running that stuff and it will get even cleaner.
Always pays to use the good stuff. Good job.👍
I run the Husqvarna 50/1 Premix and the quart cans cost under $8.00/quart at LOWE's Home Improvement stores. Excellent, 95 octane, very clean and powerful fuel. Buy 6 indiv. quarts, you get lower contractor pricing.
I typically run 93 non ethanol with klotz super techniplate mixed at 40:1 in all my 2 strokes. My pistons never look like that. Quality oil and fuel is key to the life of a stroke
I always store my equipment with a fresh tank of motomix for winter and everything fires right up in the spring. Trust me store your equipment with this fuel.
Yes yes yes and
Yes
It is the most underrated subject for small engines known to man,
Ethanol hasn't been around forever, these issues kind of crept up behind us as we got used to them,
Run cheap gas all year to do the work, NEVER EVER store a small engine with pump gas.
I built a beautiful vintage style go kart this summer, I refuse to put pump gas in that new engine, it's too pretty.
I run 89 octane and Echo Red Armor during the season. I dump the fuel for winter storage and use VP small engine fuel in all my handhelds and backpack blowers. Red Armor has fixed my issues with carbon buildup and the VP fuel has my engines firing right up in the spring.
If you want an easy starting great running 2 stroke whatever I recommend using Husqvarna XP+ pre mix, its not cheap but it high octane 50:1 pre mix with fuel stabilizers. It will amaze how easy your 2 stroke will start and how well it runs. I put it in my Stihl lol.
That's good stuff 2.
Love that stuff
That is impressive, MM1 I only use non ethanol fuels in my machines. Nowa days pump gas is complete garbage, and they have the stones to charge over $3 for garbage gas!!!! I use Tru-fuel and if I can't find it I use VP fuel. I spend alot of money through out the season but in MHO it's worth it. My motto is if I treat my machines good then they'll treat me good.
Great video good Sir, hope ya have a wonderful weekend!!!
Great video, thanks for posting. I can only get pure gas at Bucees around here.
well that sucks for you...the horror of having to go the awesomeness that is Bucees.
wish i had a buccees here!
I've got to wonder if the trimmer's owner was also mixing his own fuel and putting too much mix oil in it... People think more oil is better but if it doesn't burn completely you end up with a build-up in the engine. If done long term a big carbon build up can form that can break off and score the piston and cylinder. Me, I run non-ethanol 93 with Stihl synthetic mix oil in all my Stihl tools. The pistons and cylinders, as well as the spark arrester screens, are clean. Those tools include Stihl MS261, MS461, HT131, FS131 and HS56.
Those fs55 were great engines and they could take a beaten i had 2 used them commercially for 8 years nothing like old Stihl equipment i really miss there legendary Fs 80 and 85 those were such great units.
Couldn't agree more mate. Give me my FS400 over today's Stihl strimmers anyday. Same with their older pruner heads. They than a 3/8 pitch chain, latest run a1/4. The alloy castings are more substantial too.
Have a 13 1/2 year old Stihl fs80 trimmer which still runs like new. I’ve had several landscaping experts tell me that this model is probably one of the best string trimmers ever made. Piston and exhaust port on mine are like new and there are some hours on this unit! Hope to run it many years more!
I pay $33/ gallon for motto but it’s worth it in the long run. Plus the 4 mix’s are pretty good on gas
I’m still running left over $1.56 per gallon Trump era gasoline with .70 cent per mixed gallon 2 cycle oil. NEVER blown up or worn anything out in years. 32:1
You pay $33 for something you could mix yourself for $4? I'd be ashamed to admit that.
@@matt420740 my state doesn’t have ethanol free gas
impressive demonstration.. it really cleaned that up nice thanks for showing us
Are use this stuff from day one when I buy new equipment
That's some cool stuff. Thanks for the information.
John 🇬🇧
Wow big difference, I’m gonna start using that’s stuff from now on
I used to run that stuff but it would plug up my spark arrestor. Switched over the Echo red armor and I have never had a problem since. Echo burns so much cleaner.
Horseshit, u work for echo
That is some great fuel I just wish it wasn't so dang expensive! But I use it in my new ms170 chainsaw! I just bought a few months ago! We have a gas station that sells non ethanol fuel! About 2 minutes from, my house! I use it in all my other Stihl equipment! All their warranties are long done!
I had assumed you were going to show it did a BAD thing! I've bought a can of premix without even noticing what the ratio is! I hope it's correct about 1:40. I normally mix 25ml oil to 1 L petrol. No problems but thought I'd try the dear -- well, very dear stuff. 23€ maybe as opposed to 5L petrol for under 10€ and a couple spoonfuls oil. Just actually use it some time! I was particularly interested in you checking the rpms. Never seen it before on a 2-stroke, and of all the vids on tuning, none show getting the appropriate rpm. I'm using a bramble blade (well, two: two bendy-down bits (??) and three bendy-down bits). And I'm not sure they're turning fast enough to massacre my jungle(s). So will use your figures as a guide. Keep up the good work. Appreciated.
It didn't get half of the varnish off that piston. I would venture to say that any new/clean gas mix would have done the same.
Almost 50$ a can here not worth it to be honest it's great for the home owner that doesn't run much or long term storage. We run 94 ethanol free at 45:1 and golden spectro oil everything looks as good as the day it was made. Definitely a good video
The only thing pre-mix is good for are the people too ignorant to mix their own.
@@matt420740 yup 5 gallon ethanol free to 14oz oil 45:1
Run some echo Red Armor oil in premium non ethanol gas will clean it up some more. Seen Dave’s small engine saloon video on red armor oil test.
Pretty effective. Usually what I do is take a nice hot shower with my trimmer and whisper sweet nothings into her airbox.
If you leave gas in your equipment over the winter its good to put this in at the last fill
I’m not using it anymore, because it’s very very old fuel setting in warehouses for years
I’m done with them and sold my stuff and bought other brand
I have that same power unit! It's been sitting a couple years I ordered a new carburetor. I'm waiting on the parts now.
What kind of fuel were they running?
You said old, but what was it?
No telling. Prob 87
Hey man ,I recommend the Echo red armor pre mix gas for that Stihl 👌, keep up the good work man
All brands are good as long as it’s JASO approved
I just mix my own with rec gas 89 octane and Lucas semi-syn oil, 50:1
That is impressive.
Might wana brush up on the old owners
Manual and read up on what fuel is recommended.
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 that is non ethanol recreational gas. What am I missing?
@@Jim-ie6uf A lot of 2 strokes engines call for 90 octane or higher. Other than that you aren't missing anything. Don't buy into the pre-mix bullshit, no matter what the manual says.
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 I’m a Stihl Gold Certified Dealer Tech The Recommended Octane Is 89 or Higher So There Is Nothing Wrong With His Mix 😊
That Stihl mix made my weed whip and leaf blower (both Stihl) run like complete crap. Even took them in for adjustments. Switched back to regular mix and they run flawlessly.
It will run like crap until it
Cleans out all the gunk and sludge from inside the engine
That premix fuel is highway robbery, non ethanol gas and good quality two smoke mix at 45to1 and if your not using the equipment for a while run the carb dry.
You are entitled to that
Opinion
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 I am entitled to my entitlements, haha.
Not everyone has access to non-ethanol gas.
I know I don’t
I run my chainsaw maybe 45 minutes a year, which is nowhere near enough if you ask me.
There's zero ethanol. The fuel has a long shelf life. I have SEF Multi-Mix. It's made by VP, and uses Motul oil.
That was absolutely awesome
How long did it take to burn through a whole tank? I would have parked the screamer outside 🤣
Think it would be a smoker while it burned off that stuff off!
I ran my new srm 225 with the echo fuel red armor and something meesed up the trimmer it runs great but theres lots of black oil coming out exhaust. And i replaced the carb and ran great, no black oil out the exhaust. But then stated to do it again, black oil out the exhaust.🤷🏻♂️
Local grocery sells 91 ethanol free gas. $4.50/gal, but my equipment runs better and carbs don’t need to be serviced every year. I only use Stihl 2-cycle oil. One at 50:1 for new equipment and one at 40:1 for the vintage chainsaws and snow blower ( all 30+ years old and run great). Disclaimer - your results may vary.
You can do the same with AV fuel but DON'T mix it any leaner than 40-1. I'm more curious what the compression was before & after.
Good and informative video. Motomix did an amazing job cleaning up that engine, but dad-gum at over $22 a quart it ought to. It may be practical for the occasional user were the tool sits for long periods. But for daily use, as in the Lawn Care Industry it's too expensive. If this were the only fuel available, battery power would take over.
Run a different brand like vp or tru fuel
by design
they want petrol gone
They who?
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 even vp is $20 a gallon. i know because thats what i use in my weed eater. engineered fuel is just way to expensive for commercial use. i only trim for like 30 minutes at a time once every 2 weeks. i'm about 2/3s of the way through that gallon of SEF right now so i expect another 2 months out of it.a commercial guy will burn that up in a day.
So ! Why ! Are ! You ! An ! Idiot !! Not ! To ! Read !! The !! Manual !!Then !! ??
Vp 4 cycle fuel mixed with Honda hp2 oil is very clean.
Cleaned the piston well.
That Stihl fuel has no impurities in it as normal fuels
Curios as to what the compression was pre and post use. Same with pressure / leak down test?
140 pre and 140 post compression Leak down test has no bearing on compression readings
Hello, for me that brown deposit can have 2 reasons:
1. To much oil in the fuel
2. Piston rings not sealing properly for different reasons
I don't like the Motomix to much. I have bad experience as it's aggressive with rubber over time.
You should drain the tank and carburetor over the winter definitely.
I just bought that and my stihl saw did not want to start. Smelled HOT and did not smoke.
What are people’s thoughts on the 50/1 mix VP Racing gas I bought it for my Stihl MS 271 chainsaw but would like some others thoughts
Works good I use vp for the 3 years
MowerMedic have you done any videos explaining how well this protects carbs in storage <
I will never store another small engine with ethanol pump gas again,
it's carburetor poison!
I have not but taryl fxes all has done an extensive fuel study on this subject and truefuel was awesome th-cam.com/play/PL-xkNBjnenDA3DyuEhAL10PgZ19A72rz5.html
THEMOWERMEDIC1, Ha ha, Boy am I transparent, What do you got me thinking about that!
Taryl Dactal is the best!
Interesting. But I wonder what in the pre-mix caused the cleansing. Is it the 93 octane or perhaps an additive to the fuel? If it is an additive I wonder if other pre-mix brands, which cost less than Stihl Motomix, would have the same effect. For example Home Depot has their private label PowerCare brand of 93 octane ethanol free gas for $4/qt and I wonder if would have done the same cleansing as the twice as expensive Motomix.
Heat, motomix burns hotter than normal fuel....
Thank you !!!
Could you do a oil test on saber by Ams oil 100 to 1 some time?
Thank agin!
Bill
I don’t recommend running 100:1
i don't understand running it full throttle. doesn't it overheat?
I messed with some of this pre-mix for the first time and the guys didn’t shake the van up so it was oil heavy and the chainsaw barely ran
It doesn’t require shaking.
Great video and info as always.
Awesome! Thanks for the video!
I wonder how the muffler and spark arrester is holding up.
How do you like the Stihl moto mix compared to.the vp racing fuel. I use vp right now and works great
It all comes out of the same spigot
I also recommend SUNOCO 91 octane pump ⛽gasoline.
We don’t have those gas station here
Aspen fuel can’t beat.
yes i love new oli mix keep 70 r 4 years no gas it kill the weed sir
Got a quart of the moto-mix, and added another 12-15 milliliters of Stihl Ultra oil, for break-in on a Zenoah G430RC engine.
Good to know it won’t make things filthy, but rather the reverse.
Excellent video, very useful and informative. Do you have the part number and where to get the echo tachometer you were using in the video.
Link in comments.
Low or intermittent rpm trimmers benefit from a higher mix ratio like Amsoil 80-100-1. Problem solved.
Never run 100 to 1 in a air
Cooked 2 stroke.
Dan Henderson, that would tear up equipments. Sound like Amsoil fans from lawnsite lol
Can it be use with echo and how long it ran a full throttle where did you get the echo idle tool
If you are referring to the tachometer that I used I have a link in the description and in the comments
At first I thought it would be bad, but it was not.
As a small engine mechanic the stihl ultra is terrible. I can always tell who runs that fuel easy! Has way too much carbon build every time. I never recommend it!!
Awesome content and info
Buy Amsoil Sabre mix 100:1.You will absolutely never have problems with two strokes if you use this oil and mix 100:1.
100:1 a liquid cooled jet ski or
Outboard maybe but never in a high heat high rpm 2 stroke. You can’t change my mind. I’ve seen too many failures at the stihl and echo testing facilities
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 I been running this mix for two years,try it, I didn’t believe either,even ran it my son’s KTM 300,did a top end rebuild,cleanest piston and cylinder I’ve seen. I haven’t had a weed eater,blower,or chainsaw fail. I live in Alabama,hot af down here.
@@kyzor-sosay6087 Ever thought about why the reason you had to do a top end?possibly running the mixture 100:1?
@@kyzor-sosay6087 If the manufacture of these engines ran at 100 to one they would put it in the owners manual
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 ok,man.
Some people think they’re smart af,don’t take advice.
Keep doing what you’re doing. I don’t give a shit,man
The reason I changed rings on my sons moto cross bike,he raced,we changed rings and pistons every third race.See you don’t know everything. I’ve been racing two strokes since I was 11.I’m 60 .
What grade fuel should we be running in two stroke equipment?
Mid grade or
Higjer
Hello there I would like to know if this product for other name brand weed eaters or
just for Stihl weed eaters?
That was a great video!
Ethanol mix gas I bet
After using Echo's premix for several years I serviced my blower and trimmer. Not a speck of carbon deposit anywhere!
What's Taryl say about about it?
Taryl who?
Taryl Fixes All.
@@williambray4134 he was joking. Even the queen of England knows Mr Carbatrator. There's your dinner.
No ones engine will look like this because this is not how we run it while working. Try using it in the real world, then check that piston.
Amazing
I use aviation fuel I pay more for it but doesn’t have problems
Funny when we had the good unleaded gas in the 1960. a set of spark plugs fouled out in 10,000 miles. A engine was burning oil at 70,000. Miles. Why with this sorry corn gas are engines lasting 250,000 miles or more. Now I am using 1960,s homelite XL12 chainsaws. and I use the murphy ethanol gas from wal mart. and use that wal mart super tech 2 cycle oil. And last year I clear cut 4 acres of scrub timber. And my two XL12 saws are still going strong. I simply dont let my gas set around and become stale.
What he didn't show you was the Seafoam he put in the gas tank.
Looks like an engine that’s not being run flat out. Like someone is feathering the throttle rather than gunning it.
Hi just subbed you good stuff on your channel🙂👍
Biggest--Biggest thing folks can do is use premixed fuel.
Engines have three things wrong:FUEL, FIRE AND COMPRESSION
Don’t forget air and ”timing” fire at the proper time 👍👍
Can gas goes bad also,i do this for a living , just use fresh none oxy fuel
Gas has a shelf life for 30 days
I thought running a trimmer pinned like that would destroy it.
Nope
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 How about a chinese trimmer ? Can it run at WOT without blowing up ?
Nope
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Thanks for quick reply. Can you say why it can''t run at WOT without blowing up ? Thanks
In many cases, it is recommended, as to not allow excessive carbon buildup.
Cheap oil, not a fuel issue, just my two cents.
I use motomix in my Sthil FS91R and it runs great, starts easily, no smoke, etc. Sthil doubles your warranty if you buy their 40:1 mix.
Did you mean 50:1 mix?
i use trufuel 50to1
I got that from TrueFuel
What is the part number for the ECHO tach tester?
Can you put a link to the tach tester?
There’s a link in one of the recent short videos. The video “ A Perfectly Tuned Stihl “
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Stuttered a lot ?
Liquid gold!
Well ah swah
No one runs a weed whacker wide open that dang long! Anything you run like that it’s going to get clean.
Shoot, your way wrong on that. My crew runs trimmers wide-open throttle all day long only idling to refuel and right back on the throttle you have no clue what the f you’re talking about
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 well we never have nor do you have to have them wide open to cut or trim grass. So good for you and your remark I have no clue.😁 some ppl like to beat on their equipment..
Move along, go troll someplace else
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 lol. You get upset cause someone does something different than you? Wow or disagree. Lol. You sound like a great person wouldn’t be surprised if you’re divorced! 😂 go check your birth certificate it’s an apology letter from the condom factory!😂🤣😁
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I was under the impression that not running at full throttle will cause the clutch parts to wear faster because it may not be fully engaged more often. When a load is put on if only partially engaged it would have more of a potential to slip which will wear the parts faster. Am I wrong @THEMOWERMEDIC1 ?
bub its not the motomix that cleaned it up, it was running full throttle so it could burn off whereas your customer just putted at half throttle
Bub
Really? I am willing to bet you take plain old good fuel mix at home and run a small engine at full throttle for a bit like that you will get cleaning like that. Most of the build up is probably from partial throttle running. These things do not have any sophistication in its response curve at all so when properly tuned they run well in a very limited R.P.M. range usually full throttle is closest to adiabatic conditions.
in a perfect world and perfect conditions, I would agree with you
Everytime i use motomix my stuff wont start!
A little Seafoam added to any fuel does wonders as well
Seafoam is noting but alcohol and absorbs moisture stay away
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 interesting
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 bad for vehicles or just 2 cycle?
Ok
Do they make something comparable to clean four stroke? Also, Jeremy, did you sell that blazer yet?
Yeah I sold it 2500
Subbed ya
Did anyone else have an urge to go out and buy propane after watching this?