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Lawyer here. Not a retired one in media; I actually practice.
Assault does not involve injury, it involves putting someone in fear of imminent serious bodily harm or injury. Firing in someone's direction is certainly putting them in fear of serious bodily injury or harm. He would have been guilty of assault even if he didn't fire the gun. The fact that he fired it just added another charge (wreckless discharge of a firearm).
Thank you for giving some clarity to that part of this situation. Question though; had the defense had a witness that didn't go against their story, does this end up in a mistrial?
That's some chicken shit bc someone could be a complete Karen to you and then you curse them out, standing up for yourself, and they call the cops bc they were "fearful" of your aggression. That shit not flying.
Assault involves physicality. Ik the "legal" definition, but since you've practice, then you know that can be argued in court 🤷
@@bryancole4022 going with the lawyer's interpretation on this one. Remember, this took place in the state of California, not federal court. Laws and their interpretations vary state to state
@Bryan Cole It must be a reasonable fear. The scenario you described would hardly put anyone in reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or injury and unless you're in some hick town in Bumblefuck, Florida, no court would go for that. No lawyer would go for that for it to even make it to a court.
@Zephaniah McDaniels Nah. Besides, mistrial, in most circumstances at least, require an objection then an immediate motion to declare a mistrial. If it isn't granted but it should have been, then counsel would have to preserve their objection for appeal. Appeals are granted if it appears the court made an error, and it was one counsel objected to during trial. If your lawyer doesn't catch an error during trial, there goes your chances of appeal (under most circumstances, at least).
Mal ate this topic up. I never understood why people hated Megan so much, her initial action was to “hold it down” and not snitch. This doesn’t even come out had Tory just chilled tf out.
Black women usually look out for Black men, to their determent. She became a villain for protecting herself.
She also became a villain because of some stuff that's went down in the industry. She's not very friendly with a lot of powerful people so I wouldn't be surprised if they used their relationships to add gas to the fire
She lied
But tory didn’t even talk for months after it happened until he announced that Daystar album, and it was looking like most the talking came from Meg’s side.
Just like with Tina Turner when a black woman is a victim people look for everything 2 discredit her. And jus tlike Tina Turner I know meg gone rise and be better then ever
This!!
People are very confused abt what the charges were. They are acting as if the charges are attempted murder. Assault does not mean injury, it means the threat of harm. Shooting towards her at all is assault.
Nobody assaulted Megan. Megan beat up her friend and her friend shot back in defense. Tory tried to stop it. End of story
@@MakaveliG17C 😂😂😂
@@MakaveliG17C you’re a brainwashed sheep 😂😂😂
@@MakaveliG17C Yes so when the leaked phone call came and and tory said he’s never done anything like that before. He was talking about arguing with a girl? lmfao
@@OrangeJuicePapi thank you 😩 these people are nuts
I'm not a fan of either artist, but it's wild to see people defend Tory even after all the evidence is out. Like damn...do y'all know this man personally ? 😬
Right. 🙄
It's plain old misogyny. When they saw Rihanna's busted up face, they blamed her for it. When Keke Palmer spoke up about Trey Songz, they called her a hoe. R. Kelly was openly known as a pedophile and it took bout 20 years for him to face any consequences.
Right is Right and Wrong is wrong. But Tory is Guilty of catching g 😁s second felony gun charge on Probation. If he wasnt on probation he would have a chance. Tory is Guilty of being Stupid.
@@shantaalli2865 at the MINIMUM
What evidence? The evidence was weak. They convicted this man of circumstantial evidence and emotions
Multiple attorneys have confirmed it’s incredibly rare to find DNA in cases involving weapons. They didn’t need that in the state of Cali to convict.
If Tory shot the gun 5 times, his dna would be conclusive
Tory Lanez is proof that Black women are the worst enemy for black men, there are thousands of Black men rotting in jail because black women lied on them. Date black women at your own risk.
They found her dna on the gun but not his. We can’t trust the criminal system at all
im confused about why they keem screaming about the “inconclusive dna” theres a LOT of other evidence that makes tory look extremely guilty lmao. these tory simps are mentally ill
That was another thing…. People thinking DNA being “Inconclusive” meant there wasn’t another way to prove Tory had the gun.
Also Tory has said multiple times that Kelsey did not shoot Megan. He tweeted it and put it in songs
I think that why his first attorney stepped down. She probably wanted him to take a plea deal.
They still overlook that part just bcuz they don’t like Meg Tory never said nothing about what happened but Kelsey didn’t and something happened but it ain’t what we think
Joke is Kelsey’s statement was taken 3 month ago not from the night they was arrested! Which makes it worse because how come 3 months ago she has all the details and then trial comes she doesn’t remember anything?? HOW!!! 🤦🏾♀️
Because she was paid not to make Tory look bad
Following what the doctors and legal community had to say about the case…. The verdict wasn’t a surprise. Bloggers/Podcasters and a LOT of people couldn’t even grasp the fact that it was the STATE vs Daystar… And Meg was a witness.
This!! I was like do they realize the STATE pressed charges..
Meg signed an affidavit bozo. They weren’t going to charge Tory
Facts!! And when they broke it down it actually made sense. Everyone just speaking on pure emotions and they like and dislike for a person.
truth
and everyone conveniently forgot all the priors that man has.
Also tory lane pulled up on a youtube rapper and forced them to apologize ..... and when the rapper recounted the events...... tory reframed the narrative to put himself in a positive light. He aggressively campaigned to make Megan look bad and like a lier. She was a victim of this crime and tory's media attack towards her. He even made a music video lying about his innocence.
📠📠📠 not to mention he tried to attack August while he was out on bond 😭
Liar really not hard to spell
@@jamaicanbkslimaz 😂😂😂
I had the though today that he ran to the media bcuz he probably thought if my career gonna be gone then hers is too
@@richieporter5124 after having his bond revoked for STALKING her 🥴
I respect Rory and Mal for not speaking about this until the verdict was reached.
Verdict was trash
Tory already flamed Mal's ass lol, so he def had to chill
I know that’s right!!! A LOT of folks are looking real stupid and dumb after the REAL evidence came out.
CAP they spoke on it when it first happened. Mal said Tory was worser than 69
@@raemiller2752 idk who is looking stupid, you seeing all the leak shit is a contradiction. But the real thing is whose like green gun was that?
"All Meg did was be a blk woman".. Smh.. that's all it took
And lie 😂🤣😭
@@ryanevans8323 She lied to protect everyone in that car n lied to keep ppl the fuck out her personal business . bcuz really, why did that fucking matter? . Anytime a woman lies abt fucking a dude it's bcuz she's ashamed. That's way different than lying n saying u didn't shoot someone for two whole years n finding out he actually did 🙄.. which is worst dummy?. Or are u just following dick at this point?
How do you know what she did? We’re you there?
@@outdablusht565 in a court of law it doesn't matter why you lied.
@@bk2no it's called common sense. As a man I understand women can sometimes lie abt shit but I ain't never heard of them lying abt being shot and by who when it can be easily disproven. Y'all acting like Meg some random that needed to gain something from Tory when she is more successful than him😂. Besides, his whole story bout them fighting over him so one shot the other when NEITHER was in a relationship with him just sounded like some red pill fantasy that he had nothing other than ' she did it not me" as proof.n bro they just brought receipts n he didn't.
The world has been condition to suppress Black women. If they just could truly understand our burden 😔 . I'm glad you spoke up for Megan.
The western world
@@dazedconfuseds the whole world bw in Africa are even in worse conditions
That thumbnail is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂
I wish people knew what REASONABLE doubt actually is before commenting. The operative word is "reasonable". His defense saying Kelsey shot the gun is as much reasonable doubt as me saying the mailman shot her, Just because you introduce another potential scenario does not mean reasonable doubt is now in play. A lot of factors go into it such as evidence, timelines, probabilities, etc... Meg was not lying and I hope she heals physically and mentally.
That part
🎯🎯💯💯
She was lying. There also was reasonable doubt. Kelsey had gsr on her, her dna could have been on the gun, and the neighbour also saw her shooting before Tory got out the car. She also had the motive and was in a physical altercation with Meg
@@MakaveliG17C listen to black women with bullet fragments in they foot if u don’t believe me go text her doctor
Reasonable doubt was oozing out that trial. Tory should not have been convicted. A witness literally put the gun in Kelsey’s hands, the investigation was botched, and Kelsey had the motive
Mal has had the best take from a man I’ve seen on this situation so far! 👏🏾
Mal works for Roc Nation. He’s a clown
100,% agree
* Pandering
I love this take on Both Rory and Mal's part. They unpacked this well and to me just stuck to the facts and pointed out a lot of injustice aside from Meg's injury. A lot of bloggers and commentators alike tried to sway public opinion in Tory's defense, to disbelieve and be against Meg. And to me, all of it backfired. All of this is to say, that Black Women, should feel safe and protected when in the presence of Black men. We, as Black Women, should not have to feel like we need protection from the anger and at times vitriol of Black men.
especially when the evidence came out. i hope meg sues the hell out of them
@@devanshepard9118 OH she probably will.
Agree 💯will Mal. No one has ever lied about someone doing that. 🙄 maybe other stuff but not that. Justice was served 👏🏽
Mal is a clown
Nothing about that trial was justice
@@MB-es9ftguess Tory should have known the gun laws of California
@@MakaveliG17C You're a clown. That's why youre in every comment d-riding. Please cope and move on with your life. 🤣
Justice was not served
Tory has harmed black men and women. He been needed to sit down and reflect on his actions.
Facts
He need to sit down because he allegedly beat august? Cause I don’t understand your logic. Cause meg got videos saying she was beating up her ex. And her ex came out and said she pulled a gun on him trying to shoot him. Should she sit down for 22 years too
@@blackmax6882 he committed armed robbery and beat people up in Canada, he beat up a reality show guy and August, he hit a pregnant woman’s car because he was driving erratically, he has other domestic violence cases. All this happened before Meg except his altercation with August. Check out RRG’s video on him.
@@blackmax6882 also I didn’t state the amount of years, just that he needs to sit down and reflect. I didn’t even specify say jail (he need to go to jail) Meg didn’t shoot the gun, brandishing a gun is different from shooting a gun. Y’all gotta learn the charges so you not shocked when you get caught how much time you facing.
@@sdk0524 was you there for ANY of these things you are claiming? NO! That’s my whole point you don’t know what’s true. And sit down means go to jail over here. And with that then meg needs to sit down too right?
Y'all handled this so well. I am happy y'all didn't fall for all the nonsense.
Mal that Kelsei interview was from September 2022 and she showed up to court in December 2022 stating she didn't recall nothing.
not gon hold you that dance bitch dance is the scene from goodfellas when Tommy was shooting at Spida for not hearing him about the drink
Tory quoting a line from a gangster movie when he’s an insecure, perpetual f*kup with a hairline trigger is completely believable imo 🤷🏽♀️
Even if Tory fires in her direction but doesn’t hit her it’s still assault.
Justice for Meg. I wish her the best and that we can put this all behind us. I'm just not understanding how a black woman can be shot and yal blame her. If she was dead yal be like RIP Meg. It's like she's being punished because Tory ain't hurt her enough. Smh. Protect black women ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Her friend is the one who almost killed her
Tory Lanez is proof that Black women are the worst enemy for black men, there are thousands of Black men rotting in jail because black women lied on them. Date black women at your own risk.
Happy 2023 gang. New Ep was hilarious...imagine if you did go solo to a drake concert and he sang find your love to you...😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Me and meek can never beef, I freed that nigga from a whole bid”
Jay Z of Roc Nation
It's wonderful seeing Black people, specifically a Black King, calling out those who harm and abuse Black women! Thank-you for applying logic and common sense to this deplorable situation. Also, I really appreciate you calling out the INSANITY in some angry over Megan's sex life. Frankly her sex life is none of our business and what matters here, is her being shot. Appreciate this video more than you realize!
I swear to God I freaking love y'all connection. Y'all are so relaxed and comfortable together. This is a much better podcast than the previous podcast you guys were on with the clown
😂😂😂
I can tell you one of these people who gets into a new relationship and complain about your ex all the time
Joe’s a clown? Lol idk if you know and no offense here, but none of these people, R&M and JBP, know you exist and they’d probably think you’re weird for going so hard to defend or attack any parties formerly involved. Just enjoy both pods or neither and chill out 💀
@@L-Johnson-Jr and stop liking your own comment. You ain't saying nothing that spectacular for other people to like it
@@utopiad4 I liked it 4 times?
If y'all don't get this Roc Nation-approved ass commentary tf outta here
Protect black women all day....but I ain't just gone believe anybody and u ain't going to either. Mal my guy but tht nigga be throwing on his pander cape and just be leaping off buildings
The Pander Prince
You biased and simpy if you think there's no reasonable doubt in this case. Who people have sex with during this case MATTERS because it supports MOTIVE. We the people shouldn't be able to guess what happen. You putting a man away for 20 years, there needs to be only ONE story. Free Tory
There’s audio proving Tory Lanez innocence. You can hear him yelling “stop okay”‘ in the gunshot audio
Where can I find this audio?
@@quintinx.3630 somewhere where even the defense attorney can't find it
Now you are just making stuff up.
Mal wiggling his toes in socks is nasty!!! 😂😅
🤣🤣🤣
New subscriber. So refreshing to hear men with a level headed respectful opinion on Meg. Very impressed with you both!
Rory: "You can put Barbara Walters..."
God: "Hold my latte"
Mal is buggin'...have you ever seen Maury? What about paternity court? Believe women if you want...You'll be paying child support for a kid that's not yours.
Facts!!!!!!!
That’s what I kept telling people when they said it was bs. I said nah you have to think about what evidence was actually presented. Once you hear what the jurors were told it’s pretty damn clear what the verdict should be.
The evidence was weak af
@@JimmyCooks969 according to who? You? So you have a better understanding of the evidence than the jury that was there with experts and lawyers? Yall wild!
@@prettystreetchic yes I do. Also the entire court room was shocked at the verdict including the judge
@@JimmyCooks969 thats a lie! Judges are rarely surprised by verdicts! You think the judge cares about Tory Lames? Lol what qualifies you to come to a better conclusion the prosecutors and jurors?
@@JimmyCooks969 it was sum like 47 counts of evidence including 3 key eye witnesses all saying tory shot meg, the doctor who worked on meg's foot, Kelsey's interrogation footage, and torys apology phone call....lmao
When did Meg become the representative for all Black Women?
Exactly! Im so sick of this being a "believe black women" movement instead of just going off of facts
Bingo.
The same way every single Black man we protest for represents Black men. Keep up.
@TRIAVERSE no single person represents all of anything. That's pure delusion. No situation should have a predetermined response based on one factor. Thinking for yourself clearly ain't for you and that's ok.
@@W2Tymes That delusion had millions of people protesting for police brutality inflicted on Black men, especially during the time of the shooting. But sure lol
Kelsey statement that was played in court wasn't from the night they were arrested. It was from September 2022
Short man complex ruined his life
No lies from a woman did
@@MakaveliG17C all 3 of them lied.. he was charged with shooting the gun not shooting her.. the witness that was called by his team confirmed he shot the gun.. what is the debate
@@tmc2710 There is no debating any of it. Niggas just don't read 😂😂😂
@@tmc2710 the witness did not confirm he shot a gun. He said Kelsey shot first and that Tory later joined in meaning he tried to take the gun away
I've been debating facts on this case with people for the past month and I notice after I answer all their questions and they can't answer any of mine, it gets to deflective attacks about either me or Tory himself. Or tell you it's a waste of time to discuss it, or you should just roll with the verdict. Nobody can ever, ever just stick to the case. Literally not once. That doesn't sound like a coincidence. Even if you admit you get how they arrived at a point and concede good questions, it's always one sided. And I'm not ever disrespectful, and I am always open to being wrong. I am not open to being blind though.
Also it is absolutely disgusting how for the past two years, anybody who has had any type of question about the consistency of logic with these events has been placed in the box with idiots who wouldn't care if Tory did it or not, they gonna ride with him, or just want him to be innocent just cuz. It's nonsense.
Some people really just want the truth and happen to disagree with you. It doesn't automatically mean they're misinformed or they're blinded by bias, or straight dumb. Mfs be so passionate til you hit them with facts. the mental gymnastics and narrative absorbing going on has been insane. I don't marry my opinions, but it's gotta make sense for me to change it.
Anybody who ever acted like this case was open/shut in favor of Megan was being disingenuous or stupid. I try to give grace and assume the latter.
I've watched a lot of TH-camrs give their perspective on this case and this assessment of the verdict has been the best I've seen so far.
Mal's commentary on the shooting on the old show is what made me a fan. To be honest, I used to watch the show for Joe and they were just sidekicks. That episode changed my view completely on them.
It was and is refreshing to see young men in a hip hop world who looked at the situation critically before sharing their views with a large platform. Thanks for this video and for believing black women.
Also tory was saying...Megan is a a lier. He made a complete opposite account of the story and made a music video claiming his version was the truth. He lied and ran over a bus on Megan.
Mal pushing that Roc agenda 💎
What’s the “Roc Agenda”?
@@raemiller2752 peace, love and prosperity 😉 and THAT is how you stay out of trouble...💎
Exactly.
He sold out for the check , plain as day
Amazing professional unbiased take on this situation!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well done guys! Y’all podding now!
Yoooooo 😂😂😂😂 that thumbnail is wild 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This couldn’t have come at a better time lol
Proud of Julian speaking up for Black women & im very proud of the podcast for taking this stance, knowing who 70% of their audience is… a lot of the audience thinks Mal & Rory are incels like them but a lot of the time they joke & play on the persona of a toxic male. They definitely get their toxic shit off, don’t get me wrong lol but you can’t even debate with the men in these comments; they prove why the words “misogyny/misogynoir” exists. Malcolm X wasn’t pandering or bullshitting when he said Black women are the most disrespected group in America. This case honestly broke my heart to see our own community do this..
“Like,” x1,000
Free Tory
@@IknowMoreThanYou Lmaooo he won brownie points for this 😂 honestly tho, no one cares that he doesn’t date Black women, as long as he still respects us. This shows he will speak up when it really matters
Got all the 2022 buzz words off. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
100%
Rory came off very shallow during this segment tbh but thanks Mal for always coming through with your perspective ❤
Oh my God yeesss. You're being very kind. He came off extremely shallow and thick. Thank you Mal
That story wasn’t from the night that they were all arrested
Rite it came in 2022 lol. Kelsey didn’t talk to them until recently
@@PreciousSullivan Which is probably why Kelsey asked for immunity. Cause let’s face it cops were probably pissed as hell that she, a direct witness, dodged them and didn’t say what happened for 2 years over spite. That and the recording of her on the jail phone might have allowed them to charge her with accessory after the fact.
@@bdhu2001 yea she def isn’t innocent in this! There’s a lot more that we don’t know about her, I believe. Something is off….
I actually know a guy that was granted immunity and he was the one that had a gun. B/c he was granted immunity, he couldn’t be charged…. So there’s something going on here. Not sure exactly what it is tho
@@PreciousSullivan Yes but this girl isn’t from the streets. She’s a college kid whose friend blew up and now she’s in the middle of all this mess. Her and Meg are being taken advantage of all offer the place.
I remember when I was young something happened and I ended up in court. I don’t remember if my roommate did something or my sister did something, but somehow I got twisted up in it and it was going to cost money. I told the judge that I just couldn’t afford it and it would be better for me to go to jail then to try. I know my rationale in my head was that I couldn’t lose my phone (back in the days of home phones) because my mom was dying in the hospital (100+ miles away) and I couldn’t lose that lifeline). I didn’t tell the judge that because I didn’t want him to think I was lying, But the judge shook his head and told me that the Bailiff would take me to the counter and payments could be worked out, because people will eat someone like me alive if they let me anywhere near a jail. Somehow he felt like my entire life would be ruined.
I’m in my 60s and when I see how they treat young black girls now as if we aren’t just as innocent and naive as any other young girl, I realize that I was very fortunate to have come up in a time that the distinction was made based on innocence and not knowing what the hell was going on. I still had to pay for whatever they did, but my life wasn’t ruined. Now police would have been pissed about all the extra effort Kelsey caused them by, not coming forward, and it would have taken it out on her. She was another traumatized victim that night. Even Meg wasn’t treated well that night & they something about taking her in and she was “what the fuck, I’m leaking (bleeding).
Lol they put a long nose on tory when we heard Meg lie several times the woman had damn near 10 different stories.
Rory speaking Barbra Walters Name and then she passes is crazy
Same... thought the same thing.
“You could put Barbara Walter’s in front of me.” Was this made when she was still alive? Lol
That thumbnail is crazy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Should be meg on that thumbnail
@@MB-es9ft either one would be hilarious 😂
Eggggggzackly Mal!!! Ppl keep forgetting the REASONABLE part of the doubt. The jury isn't stupid and the "defense" didn't hold up... Tory is the BIGGEST clown to ever clown.
There was 100% reasonable doubt
@@MB-es9ft The 12 jurors decided otherwise.
@@WatchWatchuWatchin27 12 jurors also decided Zimmerman, Casey Anthony, and OJ were innocent. What’s your point
@@MB-es9ft What was the reasonable doubt? They had fingerprints, GSR, witnesses, doctors and phone records placing the blame on Tory while his defense had nothing.
@M B my point is that Tory's defense team offered NOTHING in response to the actual evidence. They plead their case in the court of public opinion by trying to paint the victim as a "liar" and while that strategy worked on you, it didn't move the jury nor counter the evidence. In each of those cases you named, there was a defense. This defense team had nothing.
I find it funny how her fans trying to say she tried to protect him. She went and spoke to police 4 days after the incident, no one reported she was shot but her. She made a statement on ig the next day and said someone tried to harm her with intent. Meg is complete cap, she never tried protecting anyone
Does Rory have a pillow that says ‘THAT GINGA’? If not- he should.
Mal aint valid ..cant take him serious while he has a "That Nigga " pillow next to him while sitting next to a white man 🤣..Coon 😂 #FreeTory☂
I love you guys. Thank you for being the only media source that I’ve seen in the hip hop / music pod space to support Meg ❤❤❤❤❤
They 🗑
You know what Meg did? She has the nerve to be a black woman in America.
I respect and appreciate yall for waiting until the verdict was in to speak on it. I also have a new found respect for Mal and his morals. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Great recap and summary of the events.
Roc nation prepped you long and hard huh Mal?🤣🤣 pause
U know it
Dead ass lol
Unfortunately the public school system didn’t prep you at all huh ?
@@mashelly____ you on meat my boy chill out
Thank you.
Taking it off Meg and Tory and just answering Mal’s question SPECIFICALLY… I’ve been lied to by several black women.
Everyone lies
@@ThePrentisturks exactly
how many lied about you shooting them?
I’ve seen many black men do grimey things to their women and gotten away with it because the women didn’t report them. I’ve seen black men hurt people and lie about it. I’ve seen women report assault and were called liars only for the same accused to be caught years later doing the same thing to someone else. I’ve seen women report things to their families and told they are looking for attention and they’re lying and it turns out they were telling the truth. Point is, things need to be looked at OBJECTIVELY on a case by case basis and where there’s smoke there’s usually fire.
Mal just be repeating himself over and over ! 😂😩🤦🏾♂️
so Mals being Mal? 😂
@@kking62711 exactly 🤣🤣
Bruh wtf kinda cap this is? Jay-Z was literally walking out of courtroom singing.
Yoo off topic but u think Mal take that pillow with him when he dip or is it just there and people come over like Yoo Rors wtf is this 😂
Lmaoooo!!! Ayo! 😂
You know what, great question
These dudes smh. Kelsey spoke in September of 22. Y'all don't got enough facts to be speaking. Y'all look biased and goofy
Then why did the ONLY Sober person who watched the debacle say she shot the Gun? and how come the women didn't mention the fight? If a 5' 4 was shooting over a Full Sized Suv, why would the assistant have gun powder on her hands? The media is a weird place; there was a lot more to gain by supporting Megan the drunk Battle horse than to lose. The reason why the relationship matters, because it makes the connection on why she was kicked out of the Jenner house. Last point; Why the else would someone need immunity to testify??????!!!!!! Public opinion had their mind decided 2 years ago; and then Melli went on twitter to tell the truth for Tory. The story she provided lined up; but somehow no one noticed that. Mal is quick to call someone sucka, when in reality, Tory Lanez got finessed.- A person who never blamed Roc nation as Yalls cop out for credibility. Clown shit
HOW COME THE WITNESS DIDN'T MENTION 'THE DANCE' PHRASE?!?!
The witness was not in the car he saw it from his house, how would he hear dance bitch.
Doesn’t matter what you believe, Tory is in jail for a long time, go buy him
Some ramen instead of wasting time on TH-cam
Meli (who?) was never there and only came out after the verdict was given.
You were never there stfu
Yall just had a whole segment about gunna, Now Mal thinks taking the stand is wavy. 90 Year old Coal Miner's Back Tooth Nasty out here..
@@fitchgirl02 he was on the balcony and him and his son watched it; they were on a residential street. They were the only sober ones and have no previous contact with anyone from the vehicle; that makes them the most credible.
He said she shot into the car, there was no billets or damage inside, listen to the gun shot audio nothing supports a struggle for the gun
With Megan what really set people off was her saying she "was shoot in both feet" if she said "i was shoot at" I don't think people would have gone after her so hard. And Megan jumped on the protect black women bandwagon, so she played a part in this black man vs black women debate so has disgusted as I am at women for publicly shaming Meg and feeding into this all women lie narrative. I can't be too mad at people being confused and frustrated. This is what I hate is when the message of inequity is lost because someone in that issue makes it worst and reenforces the inequity. I agree with Mal i don't care who Meg slept with. If we do not bring out Tory's list i don't care about Megs, but she was victim and even if her character is questionable, she did not deserve to get shot and bullied over it.
Mal is on point. Tory acted recklessly. The rest is messy but it doesn't change anything.
I rock with Mal but his opinion on this has been mad corny. Everyone lies, stop acting like black women don’t too. The pandering is nasty. I personally believe Kelsey shot her, that’s why she was trying to get immunity.
I 100% understand why Megan initially said it was glass. I'm not going to call that a lie I understand that. It makes sense. I understand why they got back in the car. These are multi-millionaires with a lot to lose, let's get back in the car and work this s*** out later. I understand that. But like Megan said in her first live when she talked about this, I didn't hit nobody, I didn't shoot nobody. So nobody should have shot me. Hey I understand that. And she was right she didn't hit nobody she didn't shoot nobody so nobody should have shot her. It don't make no difference what she said on her mouth it don't make a difference whatever she didn't shoot nobody or hit nobody. There was no reason for Tori to do that. There was no reason for him to be out there shooting no matter who he meant to shoot
You realize she was in a fist fight with her best friend right? She literally bragged about snatching her chain that night and beating her up on a diss song.
@@MB-es9ft and?
Lol hearsay is amazing when it works in your favor
While it was going on Kelsey texted Meg security and said... HELP TORI SHOT MEG. Right there I would have found him guilty if I was on a jury. I don't care what happens after the fact when Meg make a statement to the public that made Kelsey mad. Or Kelsey made Meg mad or everybody saying this so now everybody changes stores. That don't matter. What matters is while it was going on Kelsey texted.... HELP TORI SHOT MEG. 🤷🏽 That's it that's all.
That was nothing more than her trying to establish a paper tail. She knew what she did. Why tf she texting a security guard in a whole different state? Why didn’t she call 911? Why didn’t she tell the cops when they pulled them over?
Why couldn’t she have been lying? We’re judging based on who we like more.
Exactly or how about when his wo lawyer said they are going to bring up alternate theories as to who shot Meg. Tory's lawyer NEVER denied Tory shot Meg. It's amazing how people missed that. Another thing, this incident happened in 2020. They interviewed Kelsey in September 2022. She was that detailed and Meg and her was not speaking...
@MakaveliG17C It's not uncommon for celebrities to call their security to remove them from the scene of a crime before police show up. Similar to when Kevin Hart got into that car accident and had his security remove him from the scene so no one would know his alcohol level was over the legal limit.
Kelsey explicitly said she lied about that
If Tory really shot meg why he wasn’t hit with attempted murder.?? If he actually shot her..? SMH y’all weird
Are we ignoring that a witness said a woman fired a weapon?
5:00 THANK YOU Mal. People were so concerned with who slept with who, when this was an ASSAULT case. Her personal business romantically don't got nothing to do with who SHOT who. People owe Megg an apology but they will never admit it.
Who she slept with is the reason for the argument. That’s why Meg and Kelsey were in a physical altercation and a gun went off. It is the root cause of everything
@@MakaveliG17C Nope. That has nothing to do with an ASSAULT case. The defense is trying to prove that Tory didn't SHOOT her. Not that Tory SLEPT with her. The prosecution is trying to prove that Tory SHOT her. Not that Megg didn't SLEEP with him.
It matters if that’s what may have caused the shooting in the first place. Y’all are so dense bruh lmao
@@Silhouette_1 agree
@@TrigguhTre Exactly. The reason why it is relevant is because it proves helps to establish a potential motive.
When the stories line up to a T, 2 years after the incident happened that shows coordination...don't y'all watch TH-cam interrogations...Mal sounds like an idiot on this topic. The witness said Kelsey pulled the gun from the car and fired first, then they fought over the gun.
They all want to ignore that part
Tory never said dance b*tch and shot Meg as she was walking away like she claimed. The independent witness said it was two women in a VIOLENT fight, at some point Kelsey goes to the car to get the gun and starts firing, that’s when Tory who was still in the car gets out. That there is enough for reasonable doubt considering Kelsey had GSR and possibly had DNA on the gun. She also had the motive due to the fighting and Tory revealing Meg was sleeping with him behind her back. Y’all want to sit up her and ignore these facts. That man should not be in jail, it’s disgusting.
Thank you! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Please read what Tory is guilt of. Y’all getting your facts from social media. Go read the charges. He’s guilt of what they charged him of.
@@saxking101 there was reasonable doubt for all those charges. They never definitely proves that gun belonged to Tory or that he maliciously pointed that gun with intent and shot it. The girl pulled the gun and fired first. It’s 100% plausible Tory was trying to stop her and just control her arm and direct it which is why the witness saw his arms moving everywhere. His dna not being conclusive and there being gsr on Kelsey also supports this
@@JimmyCooks969 again… go actually read what he was charged with and what that mean in CALIFORNIA LAW. Like please go read man
@@saxking101 there was enough reasonable doubt for all charges to be dropped
Tory didn't help himself by calling Kelsey & basically admitting he did it, & he's stupid for not listening too the operator say this phone call will be recorded.
He did not admit anything. He apologized for instigating the fight which led to Meg getting hurt. Kelsey is not going to be that calm and agree to bail you out if you just assaulted her and shot her best friend. Tory himself was very calm too
Nobody is that stupid. When have you heard of a criminal admitting a crime on a recorded call? His choice of words was trash as hell. But court is a game as we all knew
@@AKingsVision the mental gymnastics you have to do lol
@@AKingsVision it used to happen alot. Criminals used to try to use code and slang. I think most ppl smartened up and stopped snitching on themselves. But i believed that is what is was referring to. He did it. Accept it.
You did from Tory that’s why he’s rotting in a jail cell right now he talks to fucking much that’s why he’s at where he’s at
The wait for yah content be crazy long, pause. Can yah share old Patreon clips a few more days out the week. To keep the TH-cam community fed
Oh you mean like the JPB does 😂
I pay for Patreon but definitely a good idea. But they go kinda crazy in there so I’m not too sure tbh 😭
I wish people would look into Tory’s criminal history and his other altercations with other musicians and see that Tory was a liar too! But Tory supporters don’t want to talk about that smh
Ok, explain why he has never been arrested for domestic violence and explain why Megan was arrested for domestic violence twice even her chimed in to admit Meg did that to him and she tried to denied that he was talking about her.
Mal stood ten toes on his opinion. Respect 💯
Mal just a Tory hater cause Tory smashed his girl. His opinion has nothing to do with believing Meg
@@MB-es9ft why u tory nut huggers always saying shit with no evidence
14:32 I remember a week after MTS getting shot she was at the club. That single video is what turned ppl off 😂 I remember all the naysayers
Was it even a whole week? Still, i thought that was dumb. I know a dude that got shot in the head and was on the streets within 2 days.
It wasn’t a week… it was a whole month later
It still leans towards Megan lying again. The doctors said she had no nerve damage, but Meg said she did and had to go to physical therapy.
I’m in the medical field, the doctor testified that they cleaned the wound and sent her on her merry way.
Only ppl I listened to were the ones who were actually in the courtroom
Shocked by this one. Mal going hard for a black woman and Rory is taking the opposing stance. 2023 is about to be wild af.
I have noticed since they went solo mal is noticeably more vocal about ‘black issues’ persay
We believe black women just not those who we know be lie'n. We believed Meg until she kept lie'n... The girl cried wolf. She high key did it to herself.
If you really think about it, what did meg lie about that was SIGNIFICANT? she lied about fucking tory? ok. everyone lies about people they’re fucking. she said she stepped on glass? ok, she did it to protect tory. so now what?
@Bria Carter none were "significant" hence why he in jail. It just made her credibility look bad to the general public during all this time between the incident and sentencing.
@Bria Carter she basically made herself the villan trying to protect his cornball ass
Irony: This gets released when gervonta's babymoms admitted to lying about being abused & having her life in danger.
I'll let you in on a secret...nothing is gonna happen to her either
Yeah but we saw the video of him snatching her up in that basketball game, so that doesn’t help him much
Did she say she got shot? Mak’s point was people don’t lie about getting shot
@@chimaubabuike9774
It never does. A man is ruined the moment a woman opens her mouth. But flip the roles & its "we're putting [black] women down. We're not protecting them".
@@Ms.PawPaw
You saw that vid but not a vid of him doing what she lied about. & the fact that you said that AFTER knowing she lied is my point
People like this didnt pay attention to the trial in depth. Yall just waited for a verdict.
bingo
Mal’s worldview is only based on headlines and tweets
Did the court also not pay attention
@@juliustolbert317 no the court didnt, shit was rigged. Free Tory
@@juliustolbert317 Jury’s get it wrong all the time. Especially when there political motives in play
Now that the case is over I wonder if Tory will tell the true story on what happened
Y’all left out ALOT of details from testimony. I won’t poke holes in y’all’s propaganda because tbh, y’all late to the party at this point. Just wish men could speak truth without being “cancelled” No shade…
If you talk about facts. The fact is still no one knows who really shot Meg. The evidence doesn’t show he shot her. Rory and Mealy Mal, Ak destroyed y’all. #FreeTory
And Miami got him back! Had him apologizing. Who's really Mealy?
and your words show you lack comprehension because you have no understanding of his charges
@@prettystreetchic AK never apologized he continues to call her side chick
@@CODrama42 I enforce the laws for a living shut up. You just typing.
Ya’ll still don’t know what happened. Kelsey still plays a big role in what happened. Tory couldn’t take the stand.
You think Tory who is on probation would put his freedom on the line for Kelsey who has a clean record to my knowledge? BFFR!!
(The culture had it rough this season🎄) Let's practice more good vibrations towards each other & just walk away from drama or as you'll see the outcome otherwise✌️💖🌎
Confused because the Random Witness did state they saw a female shoot the gun and Kelsey had GRS on her too. Not saying Tory didn't do it but I felt like they didn't have enough evidence to prove Tory guilty
He said he saw a flash near her. He never saw her with the gun. He saw Tory with it tho.🤷🏽♀️
@@edubbs5556 right and in the audio you clearly hear 5 steady shots. One person shot that gun and it was Tory 🤷♀️
The witness didn’t say he saw a female shoot a gun, he said he only saw the flash go off NEAR her. but he did say he saw tory waving something in the air, shooting everywhere.
Been itching for a new episode (pause)
What's pause worthy about your statement ?
You gotta stop with your gaeh fantasies bro.
@@CoolAdam247 cuz what am I Itching?? Huh COOL AdAm
I jus don’t believe he did it personally it makes sense of him having too take the gun from the other girl and as she shooting but him jus doing that like stop my opinion tho I jus feel like mal jus kinda Bias and looking at it from one way
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the fact that you disregard he had an illegal weapon so he was going to prison regardless but giving him the benefit of the doubt makes you the bias one champ
listen to the gun shot audio, nothing supports a struggle for the gun
@@CODrama42 Ain’t no proof that was his gun
@@MB-es9ft let me make this simple for you. If you are pulled over with a hot gun and GSR on you, and your defense is you have no proof … you’re going to prison champ
the point that tory didnt outright say hes innocent is a non-starter since there was a gag order in effect
He did say it. Mal just paying dumb
There was no gag order before he was charged. He had plenty of time to deny it before he got charged and he said NOTHING.
He had plenty of time before that to say! Months! Shit he could have said it immediately after Meg got off her live
He said it multiple times
He was on social media addressing the issue long before the gag order. As a matter of fact, the gag order was actually enforced as a result of the fact that he was on social media talking about the issue.
I remember his very first IG live that he did in 2020 to talk about the shooting. This was when it first started to get popular on social media. From then I saw the red flag.. he never once said "I didn't shoot her" "here is what happened"... nothing... All he did was try to pick apart and debunk Meg's story and suggest she wasn't shot. He was asking "how she got shot and it didn't hit any bones or tendons?" (which is very telling now that they confirmed she was actually shot)... yet never once told his story about what happened from his perspective. If you don't believe me, It's on TH-cam, you can go watch it.
The defense witness never said Tory be shot or they would not have called him. He changed his testimony after meeting with the prosecutor.
Question.. if you think the prosecutor somehow caused the witness to change his story, why didn't the prosecutor ask him to testify? Wouldn't that make sense? Why would the defense put him on the stand? 🤔
How do you know? And why wouldn’t the defense point that out? Why wouldn’t the defense bring forth his original testimony?
@@YThis114 I think the reason why people like you are confused is because you're too focused on what led to the shooting and figuring out who had a motive when none of that info is necessary to find Tory guilty or not. Have you read and understood what he was charged with? The case was pretty straightforward if you have. All of that extra stuff that random bloggers and Tory's defense team were focusing on didn't mean anything. All it did was confuse people who weren't properly following the case.
@@YThis114 there's no way you think I'm reading all of that
@@YThis114 I'm curious what confusion and web of lies were pushed from Meg's side? I remember Tory's team putting out a bunch of lies which led to Meg coming out and saying she got shot in the first place.
A lot of the same podcasters, bloggers and vloggers you're referring to were responsible for a lot of the misinformation that was out there for the last two years. On top of that, they spent two years slandering and harassing a Black woman who was a victim. I don't respect that. That's also not gaslighting.
I support Meg because I believe she's telling the truth. I support Meg because I followed the case from unbiased lawyers and legal experts instead of unqualified employment lawyers or podcasters. Meg didn't shoot herself. Finding a way to blame the victim for being shot is an interesting choice. Regardless of what happened that night and led up to Meg being shot, it wasn't her fault. There's nothing for me to hold her accountable for because none of it would justify her being shot. Simple as that.
I followed The Rolling Stones journalist the whole time (and another who was more detailed)…..It’s hard to believe that the people actually interested in the case were just “following the blogs” 😂
That rolling stone journalist Nancy Dillon is incredibly biased. You realize Desiree Perez the CEO of Roc Nation sits on the board of Rolling Stone right?
Let's keep it a buck, no one had credible sources inside the courtroom. You had to dig to find what shreds of info were worth your time and what wasn't
That reporter was biased af
No matter what side you on your biased. This case still doesn’t make sense from both sides. Meg someone shoots at her and she gets back in the car. Kelsey a man beats you up and you calling people on his behalf for him to get bailed out. Tory why was there a gun in your vehicle. Guys until we hear from the driver who now doesn’t have a hat in the ring we gotta stfu. If this case at the very least is not strange to you then you are lying.