Oh my! This has been my struggle this past week! I found the doctrine of concurrence and that has helped! God is so good and is always leading me to the answers to my questions.
Predestination- The very notion that an omniscient God who knows everything including the thoughts and motives, noble and ulterior, of every human being that has ever, or will ever be born means that everything must be predestined by him. He knows before you are born everything that will happen to you and whether you will be a fit person to live in his fantasy land in the sky after your death. If he can look into the future what is the purpose of a judgment at some later stage, why would he judge us if he knows everything beforehand, is it so the godly can gloat over being smarter than the rest of us because they passed some test? If the punishment for not following his multitude of rules is that we suffer being burned forever then why not consign us to that destination immediately upon our demise, why the judgment process? In fact, if this all knowing presence knows the outcome of our fate before we are born then why permit us to be born at all? He only wants the pure of heart to live in his Heaven, that seems to be his ultimate goal, so instead of allowing us to live a life of temptation and sin (which offends him) why doesn't he look into the future of each of his creations and select the good from the bad before they complete their lives of sin, which he must already know about if he is truly omniscient? This is just one small area of question about the personality of this so called God, there are thousands of other parts of his attitude towards humankind which should be examined in detail. If he created us just so he could allow us to be tortured for eternity then he is sadly deficient in the sense of justice that he has supposedly imprinted on the minds of most human beings. SOME GOD.
Wow you put my question of the air... I can’t believe it, thank you very much you guys are great! I really appreciate that .....I’m a student of the Lord and I really appreciate your answers, I do have one more question, the 144,000 in revelation are they the dry bones in Ezekiel?, some pastors say the 144000 are the 2 year old and under children that were killed by Herod back when Jesus was a baby, I don’t think that’s right....Thank you
I'm having an issue with the "limited amount of people" in the 5 point calvinst system. My spouse and I are at odds because of this point. He says the "all" in John 3:16, amongst other scripture means God's children only. I'm confused.
That’s not true. God is all powerful and all knowing but that doesn’t mean He’s always going to intercept us before we sin. We have the free will to make good choices or bad choices in this fallen world. People generally pick bad choices, choose to sin and choose to violate God’s law. God allows us to sin by giving us free will. We’re not robots.
Certainly my Saviour God is all-powerful but yet He is NOT a mystical magician... There are some things that even He can NOT do ! He cannot lie as he is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He cannot create a one-ended stick. He cannot make a large square peg fit into a small round hole. He cannot force humankind to NOT sin if He gave us FREEWILL !
Lamentations 3:37-39 [37] Who has spoken and it came to pass, unless the Lord has commanded it? [38] Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that good and bad come? [39] Why should a living man complain, a man, about the punishment of his sins?
Romans 9 and Ephesians 1 states that God predestined everything? lol seriously? Or is Romans 9 speaking about Gods plan for the Jewish people choosing them to bring light to the nations and Ephesians 1 God choosing Jesus? If you are a believer you are in Him, that’s how you are chosen. No God did not predestine sin, what a ridiculous thing your wrestling to hold on to God help you.
these people teach "the circle of confusion" that Calvinism has been progressively becoming since Calvin taught the first "errors" of what "HE BELIEVED" in his "opinions" and Eisegesis of God's Holy Word. Read the Bible and do not listen to these false teachers. They distract and rarely ever actually "teach" the Bible word for word! Read the Bible and do not listen to these confusing lies!
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Thank you for the question and the answer. Through our pain and sufferring, God is always exalted and we are being sanctified through the process.
Oh my! This has been my struggle this past week! I found the doctrine of concurrence and that has helped!
God is so good and is always leading me to the answers to my questions.
Predestination- The very notion that an omniscient God who knows everything including the thoughts and motives, noble and ulterior, of every human being that has ever, or will ever be born means that everything must be predestined by him.
He knows before you are born everything that will happen to you and whether you will be a fit person to live in his fantasy land in the sky after your death. If he can look into the future what is the purpose of a judgment at some later stage, why would he judge us if he knows everything beforehand, is it so the godly can gloat over being smarter than the rest of us because they passed some test?
If the punishment for not following his multitude of rules is that we suffer being burned forever then why not consign us to that destination immediately upon our demise, why the judgment process? In fact, if this all knowing presence knows the outcome of our fate before we are born then why permit us to be born at all?
He only wants the pure of heart to live in his Heaven, that seems to be his ultimate goal, so instead of allowing us to live a life of temptation and sin (which offends him) why doesn't he look into the future of each of his creations and select the good from the bad before they complete their lives of sin, which he must already know about if he is truly omniscient?
This is just one small area of question about the personality of this so called God, there are thousands of other parts of his attitude towards humankind which should be examined in detail. If he created us just so he could allow us to be tortured for eternity then he is sadly deficient in the sense of justice that he has supposedly imprinted on the minds of most human beings.
SOME GOD.
Wow you put my question of the air... I can’t believe it, thank you very much you guys are great! I really appreciate that .....I’m a student of the Lord and I really appreciate your answers, I do have one more question, the 144,000 in revelation are they the dry bones in Ezekiel?, some pastors say the 144000 are the 2 year old and under children that were killed by Herod back when Jesus was a baby, I don’t think that’s right....Thank you
I'm having an issue with the "limited amount of people" in the 5 point calvinst system. My spouse and I are at odds because of this point. He says the "all" in John 3:16, amongst other scripture means God's children only. I'm confused.
Your answer proved open theology. thanks
God doesn’t predestine sin because Romans 9 and Ephesians 1 aren’t about meticulous determinism.
If anyone wants to really know the answer to this listen to Steve Gregg or Leighton Flowers.
This violates the of noncontradiction.
How does if become did ? Via the magic of someone with an agenda folks.
Who says God predestined everything? That is nonsense.
God did.
You can't be both all-powerful and omniscient and also play no part in the existence of sin.
You can't have it both ways.
That’s not true. God is all powerful and all knowing but that doesn’t mean He’s always going to intercept us before we sin. We have the free will to make good choices or bad choices in this fallen world. People generally pick bad choices, choose to sin and choose to violate God’s law. God allows us to sin by giving us free will. We’re not robots.
Certainly my Saviour God is all-powerful but yet He is NOT a mystical magician... There are some things that even He can NOT do ! He cannot lie as he is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He cannot create a one-ended stick. He cannot make a large square peg fit into a small round hole. He cannot force humankind to NOT sin if He gave us FREEWILL !
Lamentations 3:37-39
[37] Who has spoken and it came to pass,
unless the Lord has commanded it?
[38] Is it not from the mouth of the Most High
that good and bad come?
[39] Why should a living man complain,
a man, about the punishment of his sins?
Romans 9 and Ephesians 1 states that God predestined everything? lol seriously? Or is Romans 9 speaking about Gods plan for the Jewish people choosing them to bring light to the nations and Ephesians 1 God choosing Jesus? If you are a believer you are in Him, that’s how you are chosen. No God did not predestine sin, what a ridiculous thing your wrestling to hold on to God help you.
Calvinist double speak.
these people teach "the circle of confusion" that Calvinism has been progressively becoming since Calvin taught the first "errors" of what "HE BELIEVED" in his "opinions" and Eisegesis of God's Holy Word. Read the Bible and do not listen to these false teachers. They distract and rarely ever actually "teach" the Bible word for word! Read the Bible and do not listen to these confusing lies!