Thats Bennett's take too: "[I'm] putting that puck in before Swayman's going to be able to get over whether Coyle is on him or not, so I think that's the reason why it stood. And that's how I saw it, as well."
Even if Swayman can't make a play, which I think he could have, Coyle couldn't clear the puck because of the push, it happened before the puck was there. There was no way Swayman could move freely with Bennets action....
Did you consider that Bennett wasn't in the crease & Coyle was already in the crease. If Bennett doesn't push him, Coyle STILL BLOCKS the goalie & Bennett scores.
@@Stacey_-bf2mbi think thats part of the problem. There are certain calls like puck over glass that have to be called everytime. But yet punching a guy in the face knocking him out is somehow missed. And not even adressed after the game with all the camera views available. One play a team gets an unfair stoppage and is penalized and the other leaves a guy, arguably their best player, concussed out for at least a game and not even a minor penalty.
Regardless the Bruins have no shot. "As a Bruins fan" they don't have enough talent or depth. They've been outplayed in both series and only saved by Swayman's amazing play.
someone needs to bring this up. these dogwater refs will continue to keep cashing cheques somewhere between 225K-400k a year... that's absurd for skating around and completely trashing some games
I wish people would actually learn the rules.Quit saying the referees made bad calls.This was the nhl that made this call in toronto not the officials on the ice.
@@SolidRizoit’s systemic. It’s not a ref problem. It’s an NHL problem that tells the refs to be this way. They’re just doing the job they get paid to do and if you’re mad about leeches sucking up money they haven’t earned, you should be mad at NHL owners who think they somehow deserve nearly half the entire league revenue for doing nothing but being wealthy enough to buy the team in the first place. I have no respect for people who think passive income is something they’re entitled to. You shouldn’t either. That’s the real reason shit is the way it is.
i wish more leagues let the broadcast listen in on what people are saying in the situation room. legitimately the best idea to come out of the XFL since the skycam
If that were actually true, it wouldn't matter anyway. Florida has dominated the last 3 games. Boston is so undisciplined and emotional that they are taking stupid penalties all over the place.
The worst part is it doesn’t even matter anymore, even if the league came out and said they messed up, the game is over, the officials explicitly changed the course of the game. Even if we expect a fairer officiated game in game 5, the bruins can’t expect that for the 3 games in a row they’d now have to win
Yah, because Boston was WELL on their way to shooting more than 2 shots in the period… If that was a crosscheck, it would have been the weakest one called ever. Was poor footing and a tiny bump, mixed with a touch of bad luck. Boston could have just let the game be tied and not challenge and risk another penalty, but then they may have had to have had confidence that they would….you know…shoot the puck and maybe get another goal?
I am not denying that we are getting out played, and I won’t deny it. Our team rarely challenges any goals, we have a damn good video team and they wouldn’t have challenged it if they were damn sure there was something there. If you can’t see how a goal that shouldn’t have counted late in the game being allowed, causing yet another penalty kill for our team after we had just killed one off of a weak interference call isn’t a momentum swinger then I can’t help you.
@@hectic105damn right it was the lightest cross check ever which they let those ones go in playoffs and coyle lost footing and possibly took a dive It was a tying goal with lots of time left. If Boston was any good they would have rebounded and got a goal back but they didn’t they crumbled
The NHL's explanation states that the contact "did not prevent Swayman from *playing his position in the crease* prior to" the goal. This is problematic because Rule 69.1 never uses that language. Per the 3rd paragraph of the rule ( 0:57), the officials should ensure the goalie had "the *ability to move freely within his goal crease* without being hindered"; where contact "impairs the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal" any goal should be disallowed. Can any reasonable person say that Swayman had the ability to move freely and that his ability to defend the goal was not impaired? Whether or not Swayman would have made the save absent the contact is irrelevant. The rule doesn't empower the officials to make that judgment.
Not a Bruins fan (or a Panthers' fan), in fact I want them to lose. However, they got seriously hosed on this call. The rule seems to be clear on how to adjudicate this play, and the League, for whatever reason, didn't call it that way.
@@larrycopeland2413 Because Vegas would've been mad they lost money had the Bruins won. That's why. Legal sports betting is ruining not just the NHL, but all professional sports. At this point there's no reason to watch games anymore. Just look at the odds and you'll find out who's winning.
This isn't the referees' fault, this is the fault of the NHL review officials. They completely blew it and it doesn't matter how the NHL spins it, it's a very bad call.
Not only were the refs given final say on this one by Toronto, but they also didn't call the blatant crosscheck. This should have been a two minute minor and a disallowed goal. This coming on the heels of the goaltender interference call against Boston two games ago which was very clearly not because it was caused by Florida and the host of "missed" calls like Bennett clearly punching Marchand, and there's no way you can claim the league isn't pushing Florida through. Better team or not, the officiating of this series is a stain on the Panthers and the league.
@@WhiteNoise493 i dont even care for the minor penalty. Wouldve been a little weak imo and im a bruins fan. Just definitely shouldnt have been a goal. Wild call
@@michaelprentice2439 but the pay out if boston won would have been higher because they have worse odds. Vegas sets the odds so if the favored team wins they will make money
For me it’s not just the goal, but the whole game shifted after this call. The energy was all given to the panthers and Boston was screwed over. This isn’t even subjective, you can clearly see how this impacted the entire game after. Toronto needs to be better.
It’s gotta be deflating knowing the opposing team can do anything; like taking out your captain with a sucker punch, scoring goals on soft power plays, scoring goals that shouldn’t even count due to GI. You just gotta be so done mentally knowing one team can do literally anything they want, meanwhile you breathe the wrong way and it costs you. I wouldn’t be shocked if the bruins just don’t even bother dressing for game 5
As a leafs fan, I cannot stand the bruins, however, I do want fair calls in a game regardless of who's playing. This is a missed call that dictated a game, I think refs need to address the media post game, so we can understand their logic. They have a difficult job but it would be nice to understand why certain calls are made. I've been playing/watching hockey for 22 years and still don't understand calls that are made as there is no consistency. The league needs to be more transparent with decisions like this, it's unhealthy for long-term success.
I have not watched a full hockey season since like 2018 (watched 2019 finals bruins fan) but last seasons team got me back into hockey this year and the NHL might make me go back to not watching due to this playoffs. round 1 was poorly called but I felt like it affected both sides but you could argue the it was straight down the middle or slightly in favor of Boston but I would say it was poorly officiated but fair round 1 round 2 is poorly officiated but blatantly for 1 side but the fact that 2-2 series I have watched have had blatant missed calls that matter deflates me as a sports fan whether they are for or agents my team
I’m a bruins fan you can’t stand the bruins because you lose to them always. I have no issues with the leafs. I’m a hockey fan and a good hockey game is a a good hockey game. And bruins leafs are always great games. I said before the series started that it was gonna go 7 games because it’s leafs bruins and it couldn’t go any other way.
I’ve held off blaming refs bc, honestly, it’s been easy low hanging fruit but after the interference called on Boston in game 3 AND then the tonight’s no call… it’s hard to overlook at this point.
Bro as a cats fan your gonna have to overlook it to win this series idk how some of y’all are hockey fans, i get infuriated about bad calls to but if your teams a real champion squad they should be able to battle any adversity thrown at them including the refs.
@@LilJ1kthis is the most lazy excuse for bad reffing, it’s not just you everyone says this but it’s simply not true. In a league we’re teams are so close you can’t be expected to be the other team and the refs. Typically if the refs are going to perform poorly whoever they help will win.
@@talcat8031 yep, I’ve been repeating this message a lot lately. Pro organized sports across the board will go to the moon in search of the slightest competitive advantage over an opponent and when they get screwed by bad officials people just say “you can’t really blame the refs just do better”. It’s a weird and lazy argument to casually toss around. Like, these dudes literally already do all they can to win and now you’re asking them to just accept the Busch league officials screw job and try to overcome your opponent too? That’s not how competition works. Sure mistakes happen but to try and justify it away like it’s no big deal is just wild to me.
So much for keeping a closer eye on this series for officiating NHL. Gary Bettman continues to be a complete liar and continues to piss all over hockey.
same for canes vs rangers, there have been multiple questionable calls that ended up giving the canes the man advantage (such as the puck deflection by trocheck)
It’s not just hockey, the premier league has been the worst in history this year too. All this technology they’ve added fails to calculate for the monkeys in control of the system.
Right? Biz was insisting up and down that bennett punched marchand with his right hand but they kept showing the angle from behind bennett, so i'm just thinking "wtf is biz on about". But they wait until the pre-game today to finally show the reverse angle that actually shows it. So weird
The league has been in the bag for Florida for years now. First it was Tampa not the Panthers - Florida is a huge market the league desperately wants to grow in, so they treat them with kid gloves and this is yet another perfect example
They’ve been getting screwed. But I think what’s even more eye opening is floridas been getting gifted, just take a look at some of the calls that went their way in the 1st round… the 2 goals that Tampa scored that got called off for GI in 1 game
@@robertsalfelder8111 they had every chance to tie a game that they were winning 2-1, that this non call turned into a 2-2 game with a Florida power play because of the failed challenge. But okay champ
I thought the officiating in the playoffs was out of control across the board BEFORE seeing the new angle and the goaltender interference non-call. After the games tonight, it’s reached gongshow territory.
As a bruins fan I just can’t decide what to be more mad at this series. The bruins poor play and bad effort or the refs absolutely screwing us over at every turn. In either case it’s been a depressing series so far.
@@robertsalfelder8111shouldn’t have to score more goals than 2 to win a hockey game. Can’t deny the panthers having a power play for essentially a 1/3rd of a hockey game is a gift from the nhl. Panthers were nothing in this game until the refs decided to intervene
Because the defenseman went into the blue zone on his own accord and Swayman probably wouldn't have made the save even if Bennett hadn't slightly touched the dude
@@DEXD72472 “probably” is an assumption. Refs should not be making assumptions. This is 100% a penalty, you just have to determine if it’s for cross checking of goalie interference
I might've missed a video, but did anyone cover how the Bruins' player in game 3 was interfered with and pushed into Bobrovsky and the refs called a goaltender interference penalty against Boston?
No that was a great goal.. I laugh every time I watch it.Bruins spent the entire game trying to get under Bennetts skin and then this. Absolutely priceless.
Which is a reasonable conclusion when the league blows such an obvious call. It totally undermines peoples perceptions about the game when you fuck a call this badly.
Boston certainly hasn't done themselves any favors (honestly, since game 5 of the Toronto series) but regardless of how a team is playing, to miss that call is inexcusable, especially in the playoffs. I can recall numerous GI disputes from earlier this season that were A LOT less blatant than that where the goal was dis-allowed. Allowing that goal to stand is actually shameful
It's easy to see how they come to that conclusion. The push is extremely soft, and coyle doesn't even fall the direction he is pushed. Watch the overhead. He is pushed up and right (relative to the camera position), then slowly glides up and left until he bumps Swayman and leans over him.
@@slickshewzhe just came to a stop. Look at the snow from his skate. He was also leaning forward. He got pushed from the lower back. The way he was positioned, it was very easy for him to fall. The shove was 100% enough to cause this.
He already had momentum into his goalie and was not in the process of stopping or turning. It was a light push to help the collision out but it was happening either way. I'd still call interference on this, but it isn't as clear-cut as people are saying.
If there is no push Coyles position is still blocking Swayman. Look where the puck is when Bennet shoots it. Hard to believe but I think this was the right call.
U got that right!!? Fucking Bennett should've been suspended and still should be suspended now that another angle has come out showing him clearly punching Marchand in the face!!?? Wtf!!!?? That goal 100% shouldn't have counted and Bennett should've been in box for crosschecking or interference!? Fucker shouldn't have even been in game cuz he should've been suspended!!?? If league wants to do right thing they'd suspend him now!!?? Theyve gotta suspend him now that more video is out and it clearly shows him deliberately punching Marchand in the face!!?? He'll probably end up getting no punishment for it tho even tho that punch very well could be part of reason Marchand is injured!!? If they don't do anything about it then that'll be just flat out bullshit!!!!?? There's clear video showing him punching and unsuspecting Marchand in the face while Marchy goes to try to make a hit!!?? Fucking cheap ass dirty play 100%!!!!! In my opinion Florida is the dirtiest team in the NHL!!?? They're constantly doing cheap shit and pretty much cheat their way thru games!? They're constantly holding and interfering with Bruins players but aren't getting called for it!? It's absolutely fucking ridiculous!!?
Thank you for all your uploads AND for not completely sh*ting all over the B's . Swayman couldn't GROW his legs longer , his body wasn't able to shift and MOVE . That's all I have to say . Thanks bud
My only thought is to look at Swaymans left leg. There is no attempt to push off his skate to shift right. It also looks like the defender falls behind him. I think the reason it wasn’t called interference is because it looks like Swayman would not have been able to move right as he never made the attempt before the defender fell towards him. Idk it’s a weird one but that’s the only thing I can think of as to why they deemed it a good goal 🤷🏼♂️
@evans9748 I see you . If he was totally free to move , he could've thrown out his paddle or even been able to dig in and push off to flash the pad just a bit more . Think about his breakaway save where he JUUUUUUST got over and to saved that attempt . No one can be 100% right even though we want to be . My eyes , brain and hockey experience screamed "that's getting called back , no f'ing way" ... plus us Boston core people are stubborn , unrelenting and passionate . It's fucked either way and we seem to have better luck in Florida. Mayby there's better booger sugar there lol
@@segfault_000 The call was there wasn't enough contact to deem it goaltender interference. Why? Likely because it didn't interfere with Swaymans ability to make it over for the shot because he literally didn't attempt to move over at all. He was beaten clean and was already in a full split.
That's the crux of the whole officiating problems....the lack of consistency, which has been going on for years. And that from on-ice (refs) or off-ice (situation room).
I mean doesn't Florida have someone who's dad works for the NHL back office? Who has also admitted to calling refs and saying he didn't like the calls against his kid? Idk he may not be on Florida anymore.
It's nice to see, I'm not the only one thinking this. This is twice this series I've seen a Florida player shove a Bruin into Swayman and it be ruled a good goal, yet they call back not one but two goals on Tampa with the softest excuse of goal tender interference I've ever seen. Shameful.
NHL officiating has hit a record low, they have literally destroyed the flow of playoff hockey. Even the linesmen for important faceoffs are all about me me me me!!
@mildgooses4401 actually it is the refs that make the final call. Toronto didn't have enough evidence to overturn, even with all the evidence that there was, and left the decision to the refs
god last night made me sick, this is following a game where they fish hooked lauko and pushed him into their goal and gave lauko the penalty. This is absolutely embarrassing for the sport.
It is nice to see someone actually read the rulebook. Too often commentators and players have no idea about actual rules. That is due to fact that most players learn the rules from experience rather than reeading the rulebook, which commonly leads to misconceptions and false information.
I’m a bruins fan so obviously I have a side and I would like to clearly state that Florida has been the better team… but I feel like we have been done hard by the refs so much in this series. I’m not just trying to say the refs are the reason we have been out played but when we are on a PK so much how can you generate momentum… i didn’t expect Boston to get past Florida as that team has a higher ceiling than this years bruins, but man it sucks when the refs have been this bad.
Florida should be the better team, but it hasn't really felt like that. Sure, the shots show otherwise, but shots dont matter, IE, Carolina. Florida repeatedly needs to have something controversial happen with the calls. In this series alone, the penalties are 21 for Boston, and 11 for Florida, 12 of Boston's penalties came over the past 2 games. I bring this up because Florida had 346 more PIM than Boston in the regular season, and 2 minutes off the highest in the league (anaheim with 1108). You can't expect people to believe that Florida suddenly stopped taking that many penalties.
well the 4 straight calls against boston in the 3rd period 3 of which were iffy interference calls ruined the game im a leafs fan so it hurts to say that boston got screwed but in canada there is a view that southern usa teams get favorable treatment from the refs and bettman this year and last year are proving that to be true meanwhile the leafs send another 30 million in equalization payments to the league so teams like arizona can survive its time for canadian teams to take their puck and go home and start a canadian league without buttman
@sebastiencarrieres8825 yes, but it has been particularly bad against the Bruins for the past few years. Calls that are on the Bruins that about 50-60% of the time would not be called at all or just called on the other team. Example: Lauko in Game 3. That has never in the history of hockey been called on the offensive player. I usually see a 50-50 split between no penalty and a penalty on the defensive player.
@@jackson3190 every team says that just look at toronto fans , hell you had calls go your way in the toronto series. the refs are jsut bad with every team
That should not matter because the official is supposed to know the rule book. To claim this is a viable goal is to ignore the rule written. There is nothing less legitimate these days then NHL player safety. Bennett should not be in this game period let alone something like this count.
@@tbd3058 And they got it wrong. And they admitted in their rebuttal that it was wrong that Bennett did push Coyle into Swayman but as you can see - assuming you have eyes - that Swayman cannot play his position as Coyle is on top of him courtesy of the cross check by Bennett.
@@DashMaverick456lol explain Floridas 41 shots over Boston’s 18, regardless of the goal Boston was up by 1 and still blew the lead ; Boston is choking again 😂
@@jesusrivera2970 what are you on about? are we talking about who played better or how the NHL changes the definition of goaltender interference whenever they want?
I'm ok with Benett's hit vs Marchand. Such cheap shots happen on both sides in every playoff series and players gotta react to it. But this call? That's one of the worst I've ever seen about goalie interference. You either gotta change the rule (but something like "goalie would probably not stop ot anyway" should not be written as it's too much speculation and different for every ref) or follow the current rules. As most of hockeyfans are saying that it's a clear interference, it should be a call as sports should develop about the people caring for it.
This is a very good breakdown of this incident, thanks for explaining it so well. As a Bruins fan I'm seething but I still don't think they're playing good enough for second round play-offs 😢
So, by Toronto’s logic: the only guy in a position to make a play on that puck was Coyle and he is already over-skating it at the :22 second mark right as the push-non-push is engaged - therefore, ipso facto, the push “isn’t enough” and there’s no goaltender interference (???). Furthermore, because the puck was going into the net anyway, we can’t really say it was interference even though that’s pretty much all we called during the game. Is that the subtext? I truly cannot stand the Bruins but it’s no wonder that their fan base is upset.
I don’t think Swayman would of saved it even without the contact. He pushed himself way too much forward before the hit. He was not closing the gap. Go Oilers!
Rule 69.1 defines interference as impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. There is nothing stating that interference requires the possibility of a save being made
@@queenobamaii3736 I agree, that is what the rule is. But… I think they do look at his ability to make the save, even if they shouldn’t be. NHL has the worst officiating of any ice hockey league at the moment.
Its pretty awful that most fans primary feeling is frustration at reffing and DOPS instead of enjoyment/excitement of the games. Genuinely feels like it gets worse every year too instead of better or staying the same. Vancouver-Edmonton series has been terrible in that sense as well (though the games have been super exciting). Just want some consistency
As a Panthers fan, Florida has been the better team anyway, but the refs definitely helped us out in this game. Sure we were out shooting Boston 42 to 18 (good lord), but this game most likely would’ve gone to OT if that Bennett goal was called back.
I come in peace (barely) as a Bruins fan. It's worth noting the rather large discrepancy in PP minutes in this series has a lot to do with that. Sure were not playing great but they're also fighting for their lives for half of the game. While the Bruins have a problem getting shots the reffing is at the point of me not watching. Shit is getting called on us that can be seen ALL over the ice ALL FUCKING GAME.
@@thewitchking852That Bennett goal I think should have been overturned. I’m a Florida fan, but I would be absolutely furious as well if it were the other way around. Plus the other night with Ekblad holding the guy down before he crashed into Bob. This game should have at least gone to overtime or something, I hate controversial wins.
@@mycapslockisbrokennvmifixe7518at the very least you can take solace in the fact that Florida has been the better team no matter if you were getting the calls or not. Bruins may be getting fucked by the officiating but they’re doing themselves no favors with their play either
@@thewitchking852don’t take penalties then. florida has been more disciplined. can’t complain you’re getting called if the penalties are penalties. be happy boston even made the playoffs no one thought they would at the start of the year. florida has dominated the last 3 games 5 on 5. grow up and stop blaming refs. yes the goal call was extremely questionable but if you think that’s the reason u lost the series ur a clown. there’s plenty of questionable calls/ misses in every series. look at that missed 4 minute in the edm van game. like this one goal call didn’t lose the bruins 3 games at this point they had plenty of opportunities to score on florida or play better.
The only thing I can think why the refs wouldn't call this a no goal would be bc Coyle was already in the crease when the initial save was made before bennet pushed him. That's the only thing i could think, but i agree with you, at the very least no goal, possibly a penalty on FL should have been called.
Other games the Bruins lose if they get the calls (probably) anyways. This swung the game, and also because it was game 4, the series. 2-2 vs 3-1 is VASTLY different. I want the head of the review center fired after the season, and this team barred from officiating any playoff games next season. They just potentially affected the outcome of this series with this call, and I am livid. It's not even just this one call, the whole series has been egregiously reffed against Boston, and enough is enough. I'm sure the refs and replay reviewers are nice people, but they suck at their job and should do something else.
@@davismiller3769 Your team is Boston weak Not Boston strong You're not winning your team is Not as good as they were last year and the panthers are better than last year. You're goalie is the only reason it's close. You can cry all you want about the calls
@@frankpropri540How is it relevant to officiating? Strong teams overcome bad calls? And Boston is weak? So what ? Ever heard of weak teams beating stronger ones? Your argument doesn't make slightest sense.
I guess they're using the rebound/loose puck section? So they're arguing that Bennett was allowed to play physically to fight for the puck since it was loose. I hate the call regardless, but that's the angle I assume the situation room was taking. It wasn't that it was incidental contact, it was just considered legal since he was fighting for a loose puck. Why does that section of the rules even exist though, and even if it is there for good reason why was it applied here when it feels so obviously like Bennett got away with murder?
This was a powerplay goal, if you look at the interference penalty that led to the powerplay the contact appears to be less forceful than the contact on Coyle... The officials are setting inconsistent standards on what is and what is not a penalty in this series. The initial penalty was a weak call at best, this scenario should never have unfolded in my opinion and certainly would not have in the good ol' NHL.
What you're ignoring is that the Bruins goalie didn't try to stop the puck. He never made a second effort. He pushed off the post as he saved the first shot, and pushed forward, not sideways then didn't make a second effort. If Coyle wasn't there, Bennett would have still scored. He didn't have a chance to stop the puck. I say this as a fan of both teams.
As he said, it doesn’t matter if he made an attempt or had a chance to make the save. Rule 69.1 only defines goalie interference as the impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. His ability to move freely around the crease was undoubtedly impaired.
@@johnholmes8919 you're right, you see what you want to see. Your brain is full of garbage. I live on the west coast, so neither team is my go to. I cheer for Boston because I like them, and I cheer for Florida because I like them. My comment is a fair analysis of the play. You're simply upset because it doesn't validate your opinion. I.e. you biased, and a child. Grow the hell up.
Absolutely good goal. Net front shoves happen like this on any rebound goal in a scramble, and many times are upheld whether by challenge or not. Bennett pushed him pretty lightly, he wasn’t trying to break his back or anything, so I think Coyle was off balance and not expecting the contact. It’s a hockey play, unfortunate for the Bruins yes, but it’s part of the game
Nowhere in the rule book does it say that a light shove is different than any other shove. Being off balance and not expecting contact is nowhere in the rule book. In the rule book, however, it does clearly state that an attacking player shoving a defensive player into the goaltender and impairing his ability to move freely around the crease constitutes goaltender interference
First Toronto defended their decision with a sentence. By the end of the game they had released a paragraph defending their decision. What is next? A five paragraph essay? Do we need a novel on how you made the wrong call? What about the cross check? The referees in general have been under a 3rd grade comprehension level this playoffs. Swayman could have at least made a push to contest the Benentt goal if CC was not pushed into him.
I've looked at this so many times, and read all relating rules so many times, and I cannot process how this isn't the most "by the books" definition of goalie interference. I can't believe the video room or refs even tried to defend their call because that just makes the whole thing even worse.
Why even have refs if the refs are not going to call it right. A punch was thrown and was not called with a person from the other team now out for at least the next game and goalie interference also not being called is just b.s. I am a fan of either team, but this is just trying to cheat a one team over another.
From a Fellow Bruins fan here. The first 10 times I watched the bennet hit on Marchand I had no problem with it, but as you watch it more, he virtually butt Ended him in the Chin with the stick. Ouch. The No-call last night with the clear cross check into Swayman was a shame. It was deffinetly a game changer and tied the game. The bruins have not looked great, I had them loosing to Florida before this series even started, and if they beat Florida there's no way they beat NYR or Carolina. However, the Refs are Hoeing them out of any chance there good goaltending has given them to win this series.
by the exact wording of the rules, i say no goal. from a goaltenders perspective: this has happened to me a dozen or more times and never once has the referee even considered calling this a no goal. if i had this footage of myself in sways position i would be more upset with my defence than the referee for letting himself end up in that position. in my head canon if i can blame the defence more than the attacker for interference its a good goal
Well said. Goals like this rarely get called off from what I've seen while more often players get called for interference even if the defenseman pushes the attacking player towards the goalie.
Coyle was already in the way of the goalie, before Bennett contact, and rules are talking about an attacking player interfering, who was not even in a crease, without clarifications in the rule, that could be interpreted differently, and by the way it was reviewed, so it is not a missed call.
69.1 Goaltender interference is when, by direct contact, a goaltender’s ability to move freely around the crease is impaired. Contact was a result of Bennett shoving Coyle into Swayman, which, also by rule 69.1, is for the purpose of the rule, the same as Bennett making contact with Swayman
@@Maksim-lz3og no penalty because penalties aren’t reviewable. Toronto didn’t call it back because they fucking missed it, what kind of argument is that?
the argument is simple, they are supposed to be a "higher" authority, much more savvy than all of us, that's the whole point, they saw it from different angles, supposedly with much higher resolution, and they made a decision, why? I don't believe they missed that, I'm more interested in what they saw differently, but I guess we will never know that.
The only thing that I could think of, for why they allowed the goal is that they didn't feel that Bennett pushed Coyle into Swayman, because his arms really didn't extend...going with the thought that Coyle felt the push and embellished on it, causing Swayman to be unable to play the net. If that's the case, though, they should have said that in the press release.
I mean that is what they said. Swayman would have been unable to make the save (because his teammate spazzed into him). Per the rules Bennett did make contact with him- so the potential for interference is in effect; however, as a result of the embellishment (but not Bennett’s intial contact the goalie was rendered incapable of making the save. The embellishment supersedes the preceding action as the basis of the call.
@@dannytallmage2971 Right, the rule clearly says that if it's a rebound and the defenseman's feet are already in the crease, the forward may push him from behind onto the goalie and score a goal. The push from behind is considered "incidental contact" while "playing the puck" as referenced in 69.7. Furthermore, the goal will be allowed to stand if the goalie "Probably wouldn't have made the save anyways". All checks out to me. Seems to me this is an under-utilized strategy for sure.
@@perrystewart9884 play hockey instead of practicing pratfalls and maybe your goalie can make the save. Better yet stay out of the goalie crease if you are easily pushed around.
@@dannytallmage2971 right, I forgot the rule about being pushed into the goalie that talks about if the push was hard enough to be called or not, and whether or not the player that got pushed was tough enough to have the rule applied. Can you tell me where I can find that part of the rulebook?
Swayman was not able to slide towards the post in any case, he had no momentum when Coyle crashed into him. So Coyle crashing into Swayman had zero impact on the goal, it would have been a goal with or without the push. It would have been a different story if Swayman was already in motion to make a save but he wasn't.
69.1 Goaltender Interference is when a goalkeeper’s ability to move freely around the crease is impaired. Tell me that his ability to move freely around the crease wasn’t impaired
The problem is that this creates a standard for NHL officiating. They aren’t even trying to hide whatever bias there is. Pat Maroon was booted from the game a few nights ago for TALKING. Bennett doesn’t get anything for sucker punching Marchy in the face, or cross checking Coyle INTO Swayman, preventing both of them from playing the puck? Come on. What a joke. Someone’s getting paid, and it sounds like part of a bigger story to me LOL.
Eck we need a video of every GI call alongside every explanation this season to see how the NHL just makes things up as they go. Would pay you to do this
My thing is Coyle is still in the way regardless of if there is a push or not and they've allowed bumps from a defending player to still allow Goaltender interference on a collision with an attacking player and the goaltender. The "crosscheck" is not enough for a penalty anyways and Coyle was gonna run into Swayman regardless, its not egregious enough to me where you can absolutely say its a missed call.
@@dannytallmage2971dirtier beats dirty. That's the only thing. Don't give me this BS that Panthers are not the dirtiest team in the league lol Bruins are a close second, but they lost key rats. Panthers just gooned up more this season and are rewarded for that.
@@dannytallmage2971 lol lol lol gotta love the casuals, physical team you say , ok bennett sucker punches Marchand cold, no penalty, no suspension, ok, Maroon visited Bennett the next game and what happened dude? The physical team as you say player TURTLED, turtled, now as a hockey player myself, you do that to a star player you have to answer for it? Or you are to much of a casual to know the hockey code? Ekman larsson punches Coyle in the back of the head, Maroon comes out the very first shift next game, grabs EL and voila turtle number 2 appears, if I was coaching the bruins, I would have had Maroon sucker punch Barkov cold and deal with it. I would have had Frederic go sucker punch Bennett cold and deal with it. the league has had Floridas back all playoffs, so restore dignity to your team. Physical team you say lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, diving, headsnapping, and turtling, is physical hockey? Go watch another sport casual.
Two penalties could have been called here. 1) Bennett cross-checked (not pushed) Coyle. 2) Goaltender interference on Bennett that prevented Swayman from playing his position. The Panthers' goal should have been disallowed.
I actually hate Boston and am rooting for FL in this series (not a fan of either team, but i actively dislike boston).... But even with me hating Boston, this call is actually so fucking bad. wtf
When there are NO real consequences towards the refs and the league, they will continue to defend WRONG CALLS. All refs should HAVE to face the press after each game. Just like the coaches and players. Unfortunately that will NEVER HAPPEN!
do you think the rewiew center know the rule book? for me it look like they flip a coin when they are not sure what the rule are, but i am probaly wrong
who are in the review room what angles do they get ?some teams control the video and dont release all the angles to the league that has been an issue for years now
That puck was going through Coyle's feet and heading towards Bennett's stick regardless of the shove. Coyle was gliding towards Swayman and hence was already in his way and inhibited him from making a save. Bennett scoring there was higher chance than Swayman making a save. I think you have a bad take here.
That was GI. Last game Ekblad should have been called on a hold near the end of the game. There are so many more instances of calls going Floridas way. Im stunned we have more PP than Boston. The fact remains, we are shitting on Boston. Rename TD Garden to Miami Garden at this point.
It doesn't look to me like Swayman is pushing off his post. It looks like he is trying to stretch out his right leg to stop the rebound from getting stuffed in. Watch it again and see where his body position is before Coyle even makes contact with him, he's basically dead stopped. They probably allowed it because it could be considered incidental contact since there was a rebound up for grabs.
Rule 69.1 defines goaltender interference as impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. Doesn’t matter what Swayman did or could have possibly done. As soon as his ability to move freely is impaired, it’s goaltender interference
@@queenobamaii3736 Rule 69.7 addresses the exception of goaltender interference. th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxjM_NhixsmbP8MxEEyETaYk_03Oni0Zpp?si=Pme4yevEeGuxz_WI
@@queenobamaii3736 Rule 69.7 explains the exception to goaltender interference. Swayman made the initial stop, rebound occurs, he stretches leg out, contact occurs, goal goes in. I hate both of these teams, especially the Panthers for putting my Lightning out of the playoffs but it is a good goal as far as I can tell. th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxjM_NhixsmbP8MxEEyETaYk_03Oni0Zpp?si=Pme4yevEeGuxz_WI
@@queenobamaii3736 I'm guessing I can't post the time stamp because youtube keeps deleting my comment. At 3:53 of this video Rule 69.7 exception is explained. Swayman made the initial stop and a rebound was up for grabs, rule 69.7 is in effect so the goal was allowed.
@@viciousnugget 69.7 describes a “rebound situation” as when the goalkeeper and attacker simultaneously attempt to play a loose puck. Clearly does not apply here
Dude, it's a matter of who is playing more disciplined hockey. Looks like Florida is a little more disciplined. Sure there are missed calls and all that. But to say the refs are favoring Florida over Boston, and use that as an excuse is just a way of diverting attention away from the fact that Florida is outplayed Boston.
@@jimbosmith6327 You're trying to tell me your cheap shot Panthers play more disciplined hockey? Get the fuck up outta here. Tkachuk is looking like the biggest goon on the ice every chance he gets.
@@jimbosmith6327Florida are holding and interfering on almost every play. They aren't more disciplined, they just don't receive any discipline from the refs.
@@theMrFouldsy Second most penalized team is suddenly "disciplined" in the playoffs AND can run roughshod in the crease, but impeding Bob's view might get a goal called back. Bettman has placed his bet.
By the rules stated and reviewed in the video, yes Bennett’s push counts as the attacking player making contact, that checks out. But as shown with rule 69.7, you can plainly see the puck is rebounded off Swayman before Boston’s player is even making contact with him (and again, this counts as the attacking player making contact), so rule 69.7 takes effect and incidental contact is permissible, good goal
Why did you come to a video titled “This call was actually disgraceful” if you so clearly believe it was a 100% valid goal? To pick fights in the comment section?
Only thing I can think is the rule regarding rebounds. As you mentioned, when both the skater and the goalie are playing the puck in a rebound situation the goal can be allowed. That's quite a stretch though in this situation. That rule is intended to be if the player swiped at a puck and incidentally knocks the glove away with his stick. Not if he full on shoves his opponent into the crease.
The bruins #1 enemy is their own forecheck. To win games you have to score the most goals. And to score goals you have to take shots. Something they did 0 times in the final 14 minutes of the game.
@@N1ckeroo the shots going into the 3rd were something like 28-16 Florida. They were in control of the game all night winning most of the puck battles. Boston was praying their goaltending could keep them ahead in the 3rd and decided they didn't have to forcheck or take shots anymore to win. They're just gonna try to trap and stall this game out. Well then florida scored. Their gameplan of not forchecking and waiting for the period to end should have changed at that point but it didn't. Then florida scored again and boston responded by losing every puck battle and taking 0 shots on net.
@@lenkennedy9214 “they were in control all night” it was 2-0 for over half the game LMFAO the refs gave the cats all the momentum.. also, shots don’t have any relevance to the call, would’ve been a 2-1 game
@@N1ckeroo they controlled the play. They had the puck more, took way more shots and won most of the puck battles. They outshot bost something like 14-5 in the 1st and boston was lucky to get out of the first up 2-0 when they were outshot 14-5. They were in control on the scoreboard yes, but not in control on the actual ice they were plwying on. They hoped their goalie could steal another game for them and they wouldn't have to score anymore goals because boston but florida kept playing their game and boston kept being lazy and florida eventually started burying their chances. You gave up 42 shots. Thats not exactly a winning formula. Poor Swayman. He tried to bail you out again. You wouldn't even be in round 2 if he didn't play out of his mind with a .950 save% in round 1.
@@N1ckeroo did they really get 4 powerplays in the final 14 minutes? Are you sure about that? If so one of them was for that failed review. Also didn't boston get 2 late powerplays. 1 in the final minute. And still got 0 shots. Because they don't have very good offense. You need a new #1 center. Tell your GM to sign Stamkos or another elite 1st line center this off season. Charlie Coyle is a 2nd or 3rd line center. No offense.
Maybe one of the Boston players making 4-10 million dollars a year should have done something other than forecheck. So funny how bussied out groupies never say a peep about the players sucking.
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The question is, if you think about the rule holistically...
Did the contact have no discernable effect on the play whatsoever?
Refs have different rules for season and playoffs. This should be impossible so going by this, rules can be interpreted differently day by day.
Thats Bennett's take too: "[I'm] putting that puck in before Swayman's going to be able to get over whether Coyle is on him or not, so I think that's the reason why it stood. And that's how I saw it, as well."
Even if Swayman can't make a play, which I think he could have, Coyle couldn't clear the puck because of the push, it happened before the puck was there. There was no way Swayman could move freely with Bennets action....
It had no effect. Are we playing chess or checkers? Bennet barely touches him and Coyle looses his balance...
@zachhaist6426 except he wasn't pushed. He was barely touched and Coyle flopped backwards. Give me a break
The NHL in general act as though they have a half-idea of the rules, or a completely wrong one.
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Did you consider that Bennett wasn't in the crease & Coyle was already in the crease. If Bennett doesn't push him, Coyle STILL BLOCKS the goalie & Bennett scores.
@@chrisberry2414 but bennett does push him
It’s the playoffs, whistles get put away
@@Stacey_-bf2mbi think thats part of the problem. There are certain calls like puck over glass that have to be called everytime. But yet punching a guy in the face knocking him out is somehow missed. And not even adressed after the game with all the camera views available. One play a team gets an unfair stoppage and is penalized and the other leaves a guy, arguably their best player, concussed out for at least a game and not even a minor penalty.
Toronto screwed over Boston. Not the Leafs but the review center
Hehehe, Toronto's revenge!
Toronto taking revenge
They should take the review center out of NA
Regardless the Bruins have no shot. "As a Bruins fan" they don't have enough talent or depth. They've been outplayed in both series and only saved by Swayman's amazing play.
@@DarkPassenger finally a Bruin fan that makes sense! 👏👏
Referees are so bad this year, it's amazing.
on purpose is different than bad!!!
someone needs to bring this up. these dogwater refs will continue to keep cashing cheques somewhere between 225K-400k a year... that's absurd for skating around and completely trashing some games
The defenseman came into the blue zone himself and was barely touched
I wish people would actually learn the rules.Quit saying the referees made bad calls.This was the nhl that made this call in toronto not the officials on the ice.
@@SolidRizoit’s systemic. It’s not a ref problem. It’s an NHL problem that tells the refs to be this way. They’re just doing the job they get paid to do and if you’re mad about leeches sucking up money they haven’t earned, you should be mad at NHL owners who think they somehow deserve nearly half the entire league revenue for doing nothing but being wealthy enough to buy the team in the first place. I have no respect for people who think passive income is something they’re entitled to. You shouldn’t either. That’s the real reason shit is the way it is.
i wish more leagues let the broadcast listen in on what people are saying in the situation room.
legitimately the best idea to come out of the XFL since the skycam
gotta be one of the worst officiated series ive ever seen
with every new series, someone will say it was the worst officiating ever. complaining is nothing new and does nothing.
@@neeltheother2342Very insightful!!
@@neeltheother2342you are right bro let's just allow officials to go against rules. That does a sport justice. Moron.
If that were actually true, it wouldn't matter anyway. Florida has dominated the last 3 games. Boston is so undisciplined and emotional that they are taking stupid penalties all over the place.
I’m still not hearing Bruins excuses for Floridas 41 shots to Bostons 18; I’m still waiting 💀
The worst part is it doesn’t even matter anymore, even if the league came out and said they messed up, the game is over, the officials explicitly changed the course of the game.
Even if we expect a fairer officiated game in game 5, the bruins can’t expect that for the 3 games in a row they’d now have to win
Yah, because Boston was WELL on their way to shooting more than 2 shots in the period…
If that was a crosscheck, it would have been the weakest one called ever. Was poor footing and a tiny bump, mixed with a touch of bad luck. Boston could have just let the game be tied and not challenge and risk another penalty, but then they may have had to have had confidence that they would….you know…shoot the puck and maybe get another goal?
I am not denying that we are getting out played, and I won’t deny it. Our team rarely challenges any goals, we have a damn good video team and they wouldn’t have challenged it if they were damn sure there was something there.
If you can’t see how a goal that shouldn’t have counted late in the game being allowed, causing yet another penalty kill for our team after we had just killed one off of a weak interference call isn’t a momentum swinger then I can’t help you.
@@hectic105or the officials could make the right call and disallow the goal, then the Bruins would still be up 2-1 you fucking bozo
toronto almost did
@@hectic105damn right it was the lightest cross check ever which they let those ones go in playoffs and coyle lost footing and possibly took a dive It was a tying goal with lots of time left. If Boston was any good they would have rebounded and got a goal back but they didn’t they crumbled
The NHL's explanation states that the contact "did not prevent Swayman from *playing his position in the crease* prior to" the goal. This is problematic because Rule 69.1 never uses that language. Per the 3rd paragraph of the rule ( 0:57), the officials should ensure the goalie had "the *ability to move freely within his goal crease* without being hindered"; where contact "impairs the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal" any goal should be disallowed. Can any reasonable person say that Swayman had the ability to move freely and that his ability to defend the goal was not impaired?
Whether or not Swayman would have made the save absent the contact is irrelevant. The rule doesn't empower the officials to make that judgment.
Not a Bruins fan (or a Panthers' fan), in fact I want them to lose. However, they got seriously hosed on this call. The rule seems to be clear on how to adjudicate this play, and the League, for whatever reason, didn't call it that way.
@@larrycopeland2413 Because Vegas would've been mad they lost money had the Bruins won. That's why. Legal sports betting is ruining not just the NHL, but all professional sports. At this point there's no reason to watch games anymore. Just look at the odds and you'll find out who's winning.
Rule 69.7 states an exception
This isn't the referees' fault, this is the fault of the NHL review officials. They completely blew it and it doesn't matter how the NHL spins it, it's a very bad call.
no, the review center said they let the two refs decide... then they agreed it was a good goal... so, it IS the refs fault
So if the refs on the ice see it differently, as in the correct way, they cannot make the correct call?
@@charlie-qh2ll Not when it literally wasn't, the NHL rulebook says no matter the contact whether a light shove or not this should not be a good goal
Not only were the refs given final say on this one by Toronto, but they also didn't call the blatant crosscheck. This should have been a two minute minor and a disallowed goal. This coming on the heels of the goaltender interference call against Boston two games ago which was very clearly not because it was caused by Florida and the host of "missed" calls like Bennett clearly punching Marchand, and there's no way you can claim the league isn't pushing Florida through. Better team or not, the officiating of this series is a stain on the Panthers and the league.
@@WhiteNoise493 i dont even care for the minor penalty. Wouldve been a little weak imo and im a bruins fan. Just definitely shouldnt have been a goal. Wild call
sports betting ruined everything
How more ppl picked florida to win by puck drop if boston won alot of ppl would of lost
@@michaelprentice2439 but the pay out if boston won would have been higher because they have worse odds. Vegas sets the odds so if the favored team wins they will make money
In many many ways. The amount of abuse players get in all sports now if they mess up is ridiculous.
yeah, but it's not relevant here
Make Sports Betting Illegal Again
For me it’s not just the goal, but the whole game shifted after this call. The energy was all given to the panthers and Boston was screwed over. This isn’t even subjective, you can clearly see how this impacted the entire game after. Toronto needs to be better.
It’s gotta be deflating knowing the opposing team can do anything; like taking out your captain with a sucker punch, scoring goals on soft power plays, scoring goals that shouldn’t even count due to GI. You just gotta be so done mentally knowing one team can do literally anything they want, meanwhile you breathe the wrong way and it costs you. I wouldn’t be shocked if the bruins just don’t even bother dressing for game 5
Bettman is on the other end, not Toronto
As a leafs fan, I cannot stand the bruins, however, I do want fair calls in a game regardless of who's playing. This is a missed call that dictated a game, I think refs need to address the media post game, so we can understand their logic. They have a difficult job but it would be nice to understand why certain calls are made. I've been playing/watching hockey for 22 years and still don't understand calls that are made as there is no consistency. The league needs to be more transparent with decisions like this, it's unhealthy for long-term success.
Fr. Im a bruins fan but i like to listen to the fans in Toronto vent on fan first network. Super underated
I have not watched a full hockey season since like 2018 (watched 2019 finals bruins fan) but last seasons team got me back into hockey this year and the NHL might make me go back to not watching due to this playoffs. round 1 was poorly called but I felt like it affected both sides but you could argue the it was straight down the middle or slightly in favor of Boston but I would say it was poorly officiated but fair round 1 round 2 is poorly officiated but blatantly for 1 side but the fact that 2-2 series I have watched have had blatant missed calls that matter deflates me as a sports fan whether they are for or agents my team
I’m a bruins fan you can’t stand the bruins because you lose to them always. I have no issues with the leafs. I’m a hockey fan and a good hockey game is a a good hockey game. And bruins leafs are always great games. I said before the series started that it was gonna go 7 games because it’s leafs bruins and it couldn’t go any other way.
@@LawrenceBlade boston had 4 power plays the last 3 GAMES total in the leaf series , they certainly were not favored.
I’ve held off blaming refs bc, honestly, it’s been easy low hanging fruit but after the interference called on Boston in game 3 AND then the tonight’s no call… it’s hard to overlook at this point.
Bro as a cats fan your gonna have to overlook it to win this series idk how some of y’all are hockey fans, i get infuriated about bad calls to but if your teams a real champion squad they should be able to battle any adversity thrown at them including the refs.
Yeah I’m not a true fan of either team however I am cheering for Florida but that was one hell of a ref job if I have ever seen one before.
@@LilJ1k I’m not a Bruins fan. Just a fan of the game really but mmmk. For a professional league the officiating has been sloppy as hell.
@@LilJ1kthis is the most lazy excuse for bad reffing, it’s not just you everyone says this but it’s simply not true. In a league we’re teams are so close you can’t be expected to be the other team and the refs. Typically if the refs are going to perform poorly whoever they help will win.
@@talcat8031 yep, I’ve been repeating this message a lot lately. Pro organized sports across the board will go to the moon in search of the slightest competitive advantage over an opponent and when they get screwed by bad officials people just say “you can’t really blame the refs just do better”. It’s a weird and lazy argument to casually toss around. Like, these dudes literally already do all they can to win and now you’re asking them to just accept the Busch league officials screw job and try to overcome your opponent too? That’s not how competition works. Sure mistakes happen but to try and justify it away like it’s no big deal is just wild to me.
So much for keeping a closer eye on this series for officiating NHL. Gary Bettman continues to be a complete liar and continues to piss all over hockey.
bang on.
Officiating in round 2 has been shamefully bad all around the league.
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Wasn’t just round 2, but it’s been bad
same for canes vs rangers, there have been multiple questionable calls that ended up giving the canes the man advantage (such as the puck deflection by trocheck)
It’s not just hockey, the premier league has been the worst in history this year too. All this technology they’ve added fails to calculate for the monkeys in control of the system.
it been the whole playoffs
its crazy how there was so much talk about bennet and we didnt even have that view
indeed
It's funny (being sarcastic) . It's almost like the n.h.l is slowly becoming an entertainment league ... Oh wait , that's what it is "legally"
Right? Biz was insisting up and down that bennett punched marchand with his right hand but they kept showing the angle from behind bennett, so i'm just thinking "wtf is biz on about". But they wait until the pre-game today to finally show the reverse angle that actually shows it. So weird
The league has been in the bag for Florida for years now. First it was Tampa not the Panthers - Florida is a huge market the league desperately wants to grow in, so they treat them with kid gloves and this is yet another perfect example
@@casmatt99as if being able to functionally ignore the salary cap because of state tax laws wasn't already OP enough
Good analysis. I don't like the Bruins but they got totally screwed.
They’ve been getting screwed. But I think what’s even more eye opening is floridas been getting gifted, just take a look at some of the calls that went their way in the 1st round… the 2 goals that Tampa scored that got called off for GI in 1 game
Do y’all understand just how bad officiating has to be for everyone to be agreeing that BOSTON got screwed. Wild times we live in
No they didn't they had every chance to tie it. At end of game it was 6 on 4 and they still couldn't score
@@robertsalfelder8111 they had every chance to tie a game that they were winning 2-1, that this non call turned into a 2-2 game with a Florida power play because of the failed challenge. But okay champ
Canucks fan here. This is the worst call I've seen in the playoffs.
This second round is a fever dream 😅
Florida wins in OT
Div #1 vs Div #2 in every division except one Div #1 vs Div #3. It's set up perfectly to draw the most out of rivalries.
The situation room makes it up case by case. They contradict themselves game by game. The only consistent thing is that they aren’t consistent.
I thought the officiating in the playoffs was out of control across the board BEFORE seeing the new angle and the goaltender interference non-call. After the games tonight, it’s reached gongshow territory.
As a bruins fan I just can’t decide what to be more mad at this series. The bruins poor play and bad effort or the refs absolutely screwing us over at every turn. In either case it’s been a depressing series so far.
It's poor play yall were up 2-0 couldn't make one more score and that's including a 6 on 4 in the last 30 seconds
@@robertsalfelder8111shouldn’t have to score more goals than 2 to win a hockey game. Can’t deny the panthers having a power play for essentially a 1/3rd of a hockey game is a gift from the nhl. Panthers were nothing in this game until the refs decided to intervene
@@brendenrodgers7821and this is why you shouldnt play sports because if that is your mind set then you will never win anything
I mean, we have the Celtics championship so we can't be that toxic
By no means am i a bruins fan and do have florida winning this series but how does this goal stand
Because the defenseman went into the blue zone on his own accord and Swayman probably wouldn't have made the save even if Bennett hadn't slightly touched the dude
Exactly. “If he hadn’t slightly touched the dude” is exactly what goaltender interference is.
@@DEXD72472he literally got cross checked into swayman?
@@DEXD72472 “probably” is an assumption. Refs should not be making assumptions. This is 100% a penalty, you just have to determine if it’s for cross checking of goalie interference
@@DEXD72472dumb and ignorant comment.
Did you even watch the video?
I might've missed a video, but did anyone cover how the Bruins' player in game 3 was interfered with and pushed into Bobrovsky and the refs called a goaltender interference penalty against Boston?
In the Tampa series, impeding Bob's view was interference.
Habs fan, i hate Boston, but that was not a good goal...
Apparently it is
If Tampa had done that exact same thing against Bob in round 1, they couldn't have waived it off fast enough.
No that was a great goal.. I laugh every time I watch it.Bruins spent the entire game trying to get under Bennetts skin and then this. Absolutely priceless.
Yes it was lol
@@robclarkson3697not a good goal. He pushed Boston into their own goalie preventing him from playing the puck
I’m convinced at this point that the calls are being influenced by the league’s subservience to gambling advertising dollars.
Which is a reasonable conclusion when the league blows such an obvious call. It totally undermines peoples perceptions about the game when you fuck a call this badly.
Boston certainly hasn't done themselves any favors (honestly, since game 5 of the Toronto series) but regardless of how a team is playing, to miss that call is inexcusable, especially in the playoffs. I can recall numerous GI disputes from earlier this season that were A LOT less blatant than that where the goal was dis-allowed. Allowing that goal to stand is actually shameful
Toronto ruled the contact to Coyle was not affecting the play and they didn’t see it as a clear push. Crazy stuff
Toronto officials probably salty the Leaf’s lost lol
It's easy to see how they come to that conclusion. The push is extremely soft, and coyle doesn't even fall the direction he is pushed. Watch the overhead. He is pushed up and right (relative to the camera position), then slowly glides up and left until he bumps Swayman and leans over him.
@@slickshewzhe just came to a stop. Look at the snow from his skate. He was also leaning forward. He got pushed from the lower back. The way he was positioned, it was very easy for him to fall. The shove was 100% enough to cause this.
He already had momentum into his goalie and was not in the process of stopping or turning. It was a light push to help the collision out but it was happening either way. I'd still call interference on this, but it isn't as clear-cut as people are saying.
If there is no push Coyles position is still blocking Swayman. Look where the puck is when Bennet shoots it. Hard to believe but I think this was the right call.
For a player who should’ve been suspended to score a game winning goal that should have been called off and to have nothing done about it is appalling
Bennett scored the tying goal not the winning goal. Barkov scored the game winning goal.
U got that right!!? Fucking Bennett should've been suspended and still should be suspended now that another angle has come out showing him clearly punching Marchand in the face!!?? Wtf!!!?? That goal 100% shouldn't have counted and Bennett should've been in box for crosschecking or interference!? Fucker shouldn't have even been in game cuz he should've been suspended!!?? If league wants to do right thing they'd suspend him now!!?? Theyve gotta suspend him now that more video is out and it clearly shows him deliberately punching Marchand in the face!!?? He'll probably end up getting no punishment for it tho even tho that punch very well could be part of reason Marchand is injured!!? If they don't do anything about it then that'll be just flat out bullshit!!!!?? There's clear video showing him punching and unsuspecting Marchand in the face while Marchy goes to try to make a hit!!?? Fucking cheap ass dirty play 100%!!!!! In my opinion Florida is the dirtiest team in the NHL!!?? They're constantly doing cheap shit and pretty much cheat their way thru games!? They're constantly holding and interfering with Bruins players but aren't getting called for it!? It's absolutely fucking ridiculous!!?
Welcome to playing florida in the playoffs. It's just getting started!
They get away with everything and any goal they score the challenges always fail but they challenge for the same thing and get the goal overturned
No boo-hoo'ing when your team has the likes of Brad Marchand on your roster.
Thank you for all your uploads AND for not completely sh*ting all over the B's . Swayman couldn't GROW his legs longer , his body wasn't able to shift and MOVE . That's all I have to say . Thanks bud
This is the NHL. Nobody gets 3/4 of the net in the NHL when these goalies see the play. Of course it was interference.
My only thought is to look at Swaymans left leg. There is no attempt to push off his skate to shift right. It also looks like the defender falls behind him. I think the reason it wasn’t called interference is because it looks like Swayman would not have been able to move right as he never made the attempt before the defender fell towards him. Idk it’s a weird one but that’s the only thing I can think of as to why they deemed it a good goal 🤷🏼♂️
@evans9748 I see you . If he was totally free to move , he could've thrown out his paddle or even been able to dig in and push off to flash the pad just a bit more . Think about his breakaway save where he JUUUUUUST got over and to saved that attempt . No one can be 100% right even though we want to be . My eyes , brain and hockey experience screamed "that's getting called back , no f'ing way" ... plus us Boston core people are stubborn , unrelenting and passionate . It's fucked either way and we seem to have better luck in Florida. Mayby there's better booger sugar there lol
@@evans9748that's not really the rule nor the explanation given as to why the play stood
@@segfault_000 The call was there wasn't enough contact to deem it goaltender interference. Why? Likely because it didn't interfere with Swaymans ability to make it over for the shot because he literally didn't attempt to move over at all. He was beaten clean and was already in a full split.
Given the context of that exact moment in the game, it was a full on shafting by the officiating crew.
Remember how close the Lightning ones were in that game against Florida when 2 got called back and then this happens?!?! Wheres the consistency.
They like florida
They took away Tampa's answer goal and series lifeline, then let this sham goal stand. Shameful.
That's the crux of the whole officiating problems....the lack of consistency, which has been going on for years. And that from on-ice (refs) or off-ice (situation room).
I mean doesn't Florida have someone who's dad works for the NHL back office? Who has also admitted to calling refs and saying he didn't like the calls against his kid? Idk he may not be on Florida anymore.
It's nice to see, I'm not the only one thinking this. This is twice this series I've seen a Florida player shove a Bruin into Swayman and it be ruled a good goal, yet they call back not one but two goals on Tampa with the softest excuse of goal tender interference I've ever seen. Shameful.
Not just a push but a crosscheck
Bennett's signature hockey play
NHL officiating has hit a record low, they have literally destroyed the flow of playoff hockey. Even the linesmen for important faceoffs are all about me me me me!!
These refs need to stop
It literally wasn’t the refs that made the final call, it’s the entire situation room which is even more terrifying
@@mildgooses4401 Draftkings situation room has found itself "Not Guilty"
@@mildgooses4401100%
@@mildgooses4401needs to be investigated
@mildgooses4401 actually it is the refs that make the final call. Toronto didn't have enough evidence to overturn, even with all the evidence that there was, and left the decision to the refs
god last night made me sick, this is following a game where they fish hooked lauko and pushed him into their goal and gave lauko the penalty. This is absolutely embarrassing for the sport.
It’s insane how much of a villain Boston has been, because these calls against them have been incredibly egregious
It is nice to see someone actually read the rulebook. Too often commentators and players have no idea about actual rules. That is due to fact that most players learn the rules from experience rather than reeading the rulebook, which commonly leads to misconceptions and false information.
that is absolute bullshit
Wild to consider the lightning goals that were disallowed and then see that this is not considered goaltender interference LOL. What a joke.
Thanks for making this eck, even though you are a bruins hater you can still make this video. You are the man! Keep up the vids
A 7 minute Eck video? This has gotta be good
Brutal call ... I think another test or thought process should be, 'What would you do if that was a potential Stanley Cup winning goal'
I’m a bruins fan so obviously I have a side and I would like to clearly state that Florida has been the better team… but I feel like we have been done hard by the refs so much in this series. I’m not just trying to say the refs are the reason we have been out played but when we are on a PK so much how can you generate momentum… i didn’t expect Boston to get past Florida as that team has a higher ceiling than this years bruins, but man it sucks when the refs have been this bad.
Florida should be the better team, but it hasn't really felt like that. Sure, the shots show otherwise, but shots dont matter, IE, Carolina. Florida repeatedly needs to have something controversial happen with the calls. In this series alone, the penalties are 21 for Boston, and 11 for Florida, 12 of Boston's penalties came over the past 2 games. I bring this up because Florida had 346 more PIM than Boston in the regular season, and 2 minutes off the highest in the league (anaheim with 1108). You can't expect people to believe that Florida suddenly stopped taking that many penalties.
Bruins have had a tough time getting traction, and when they do the refs make sure to take the rug out from that. Its obvious.
@@lime7494 yes exactly
@@buddyk1674 it’s impossible to get anything going… just sucks when you can’t do anything about it.
well the 4 straight calls against boston in the 3rd period 3 of which were iffy interference calls ruined the game
im a leafs fan so it hurts to say that boston got screwed but in canada there is a view that southern usa teams get favorable treatment from the refs and bettman
this year and last year are proving that to be true
meanwhile the leafs send another 30 million in equalization payments to the league so teams like arizona can survive
its time for canadian teams to take their puck and go home and start a canadian league without buttman
The better team won, but anyone watching the bruins playoffs this year knows the officiating has been absolutely god awful all post season.
*Anyone watching any playoffs
@sebastiencarrieres8825 yes, but it has been particularly bad against the Bruins for the past few years. Calls that are on the Bruins that about 50-60% of the time would not be called at all or just called on the other team. Example: Lauko in Game 3. That has never in the history of hockey been called on the offensive player. I usually see a 50-50 split between no penalty and a penalty on the defensive player.
@@jackson3190 every team says that just look at toronto fans , hell you had calls go your way in the toronto series. the refs are jsut bad with every team
@@jackson3190 nah, all bad. But on top, for Boston, 'I'm extra not sad. It's called karma.
@@mr.ilikespam6081 I know that. It's just been particularly bad this series against the Bruins.
Sports betting.......sports betting has caused all of this
NHL not doing enough to help the refs cause this
@@AndrewH1220 the NHL wanrs this.....for sports betting
100% everyone gets a piece of the pie.....Bettman, refs, betting advertisers - im done with the NHL - greed ruined it
sad but true
great in-depth analysis, thank you so much for explaining the rule thoroughly and referencing the actual rule book and so on. great work!
That should not matter because the official is supposed to know the rule book. To claim this is a viable goal is to ignore the rule written. There is nothing less legitimate these days then NHL player safety. Bennett should not be in this game period let alone something like this count.
The NHL even released a video explaining why it was a valid goal. Stop crying
@@tbd3058 And they got it wrong. And they admitted in their rebuttal that it was wrong that Bennett did push Coyle into Swayman but as you can see - assuming you have eyes - that Swayman cannot play his position as Coyle is on top of him courtesy of the cross check by Bennett.
@@DashMaverick456lol explain Floridas 41 shots over Boston’s 18, regardless of the goal Boston was up by 1 and still blew the lead ; Boston is choking again 😂
@@tbd3058 Unless the exact same situation happens in round 3 against Florida. Then suddenly to you the actual rule will matter. lol
@@jesusrivera2970 what are you on about? are we talking about who played better or how the NHL changes the definition of goaltender interference whenever they want?
I'm ok with Benett's hit vs Marchand. Such cheap shots happen on both sides in every playoff series and players gotta react to it. But this call? That's one of the worst I've ever seen about goalie interference. You either gotta change the rule (but something like "goalie would probably not stop ot anyway" should not be written as it's too much speculation and different for every ref) or follow the current rules. As most of hockeyfans are saying that it's a clear interference, it should be a call as sports should develop about the people caring for it.
This is a very good breakdown of this incident, thanks for explaining it so well. As a Bruins fan I'm seething but I still don't think they're playing good enough for second round play-offs 😢
So, by Toronto’s logic: the only guy in a position to make a play on that puck was Coyle and he is already over-skating it at the :22 second mark right as the push-non-push is engaged - therefore, ipso facto, the push “isn’t enough” and there’s no goaltender interference (???).
Furthermore, because the puck was going into the net anyway, we can’t really say it was interference even though that’s pretty much all we called during the game.
Is that the subtext? I truly cannot stand the Bruins but it’s no wonder that their fan base is upset.
I don’t think Swayman would of saved it even without the contact. He pushed himself way too much forward before the hit. He was not closing the gap. Go Oilers!
Agreed. Don’t think it mattered much. But we’ll never know
Oilers didnt play in this game
Rule 69.1 defines interference as impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. There is nothing stating that interference requires the possibility of a save being made
@@queenobamaii3736 I agree, that is what the rule is. But… I think they do look at his ability to make the save, even if they shouldn’t be. NHL has the worst officiating of any ice hockey league at the moment.
Its pretty awful that most fans primary feeling is frustration at reffing and DOPS instead of enjoyment/excitement of the games. Genuinely feels like it gets worse every year too instead of better or staying the same. Vancouver-Edmonton series has been terrible in that sense as well (though the games have been super exciting). Just want some consistency
As a Panthers fan, Florida has been the better team anyway, but the refs definitely helped us out in this game. Sure we were out shooting Boston 42 to 18 (good lord), but this game most likely would’ve gone to OT if that Bennett goal was called back.
I dont know what’s up with these low SOG but VC is up 4-2 on Edmonton right now with 18 SOG to Edm 44.
I come in peace (barely) as a Bruins fan. It's worth noting the rather large discrepancy in PP minutes in this series has a lot to do with that. Sure were not playing great but they're also fighting for their lives for half of the game. While the Bruins have a problem getting shots the reffing is at the point of me not watching. Shit is getting called on us that can be seen ALL over the ice ALL FUCKING GAME.
@@thewitchking852That Bennett goal I think should have been overturned. I’m a Florida fan, but I would be absolutely furious as well if it were the other way around. Plus the other night with Ekblad holding the guy down before he crashed into Bob. This game should have at least gone to overtime or something, I hate controversial wins.
@@mycapslockisbrokennvmifixe7518at the very least you can take solace in the fact that Florida has been the better team no matter if you were getting the calls or not. Bruins may be getting fucked by the officiating but they’re doing themselves no favors with their play either
@@thewitchking852don’t take penalties then. florida has been more disciplined. can’t complain you’re getting called if the penalties are penalties. be happy boston even made the playoffs no one thought they would at the start of the year. florida has dominated the last 3 games 5 on 5. grow up and stop blaming refs. yes the goal call was extremely questionable but if you think that’s the reason u lost the series ur a clown. there’s plenty of questionable calls/ misses in every series. look at that missed 4 minute in the edm van game. like this one goal call didn’t lose the bruins 3 games at this point they had plenty of opportunities to score on florida or play better.
The only thing I can think why the refs wouldn't call this a no goal would be bc Coyle was already in the crease when the initial save was made before bennet pushed him. That's the only thing i could think, but i agree with you, at the very least no goal, possibly a penalty on FL should have been called.
have you thought that bettman wants a stanley cup parade in miami
cause thats what most of canada is thinking except the butt licking ron mcclean
Other games the Bruins lose if they get the calls (probably) anyways.
This swung the game, and also because it was game 4, the series. 2-2 vs 3-1 is VASTLY different.
I want the head of the review center fired after the season, and this team barred from officiating any playoff games next season. They just potentially affected the outcome of this series with this call, and I am livid. It's not even just this one call, the whole series has been egregiously reffed against Boston, and enough is enough. I'm sure the refs and replay reviewers are nice people, but they suck at their job and should do something else.
LOL. Superior teams overcome bad calls. Tampa had double the power plays in round one as the panthers did.
@@frankpropri540 Bullshit. Tell that to the 2002 Sacramento Kings.
@@davismiller3769 Your team is Boston weak Not Boston strong You're not winning your team is Not as good as they were last year and the panthers are better than last year. You're goalie is the only reason it's close. You can cry all you want about the calls
@@frankpropri540How is it relevant to officiating? Strong teams overcome bad calls? And Boston is weak? So what ? Ever heard of weak teams beating stronger ones? Your argument doesn't make slightest sense.
@@frankpropri540the phrase Boston strong came from the Boston marathon bombing not any sports team
NHL should rebrand itself as "entertainment" because the sport has been taken out of it.
I guess they're using the rebound/loose puck section? So they're arguing that Bennett was allowed to play physically to fight for the puck since it was loose. I hate the call regardless, but that's the angle I assume the situation room was taking. It wasn't that it was incidental contact, it was just considered legal since he was fighting for a loose puck. Why does that section of the rules even exist though, and even if it is there for good reason why was it applied here when it feels so obviously like Bennett got away with murder?
That puck was obviously a “rebound”
Yeah but the rebounding rule says there can't be "intentional" contact. Sam most definitely 100% purposefully intended contact.
This was a powerplay goal, if you look at the interference penalty that led to the powerplay the contact appears to be less forceful than the contact on Coyle... The officials are setting inconsistent standards on what is and what is not a penalty in this series. The initial penalty was a weak call at best, this scenario should never have unfolded in my opinion and certainly would not have in the good ol' NHL.
you make a good point the call was brutal
It definitely affected the play. I don’t like the rule, but by it this looks like it should be disallowed.
What you're ignoring is that the Bruins goalie didn't try to stop the puck. He never made a second effort. He pushed off the post as he saved the first shot, and pushed forward, not sideways then didn't make a second effort. If Coyle wasn't there, Bennett would have still scored.
He didn't have a chance to stop the puck.
I say this as a fan of both teams.
As he said, it doesn’t matter if he made an attempt or had a chance to make the save. Rule 69.1 only defines goalie interference as the impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. His ability to move freely around the crease was undoubtedly impaired.
my god people see what they want to see
who the hell is a fan of flo and bos give it up no one is buying what you are selling
@@johnholmes8919 you're right, you see what you want to see. Your brain is full of garbage. I live on the west coast, so neither team is my go to. I cheer for Boston because I like them, and I cheer for Florida because I like them.
My comment is a fair analysis of the play. You're simply upset because it doesn't validate your opinion. I.e. you biased, and a child. Grow the hell up.
Absolutely good goal. Net front shoves happen like this on any rebound goal in a scramble, and many times are upheld whether by challenge or not. Bennett pushed him pretty lightly, he wasn’t trying to break his back or anything, so I think Coyle was off balance and not expecting the contact. It’s a hockey play, unfortunate for the Bruins yes, but it’s part of the game
Nowhere in the rule book does it say that a light shove is different than any other shove. Being off balance and not expecting contact is nowhere in the rule book. In the rule book, however, it does clearly state that an attacking player shoving a defensive player into the goaltender and impairing his ability to move freely around the crease constitutes goaltender interference
no its not a legal part of the game
maybe if you had ever played ice hockey you would know that
@@johnholmes8919 fr
First Toronto defended their decision with a sentence. By the end of the game they had released a paragraph defending their decision. What is next? A five paragraph essay? Do we need a novel on how you made the wrong call? What about the cross check? The referees in general have been under a 3rd grade comprehension level this playoffs. Swayman could have at least made a push to contest the Benentt goal if CC was not pushed into him.
I've looked at this so many times, and read all relating rules so many times, and I cannot process how this isn't the most "by the books" definition of goalie interference.
I can't believe the video room or refs even tried to defend their call because that just makes the whole thing even worse.
Why even have refs if the refs are not going to call it right. A punch was thrown and was not called with a person from the other team now out for at least the next game and goalie interference also not being called is just b.s. I am a fan of either team, but this is just trying to cheat a one team over another.
Marchand isn’t out with anything head related and there wasn’t any interference. Deal with it
@@tbd3058dude youre just spreading lies at this point
They put Florida over in the Tampa series too.
@@tbd3058 said by only an idiot or a troll
After the calls that were made earlier in the series, calls that were insanely weak... allowing this goal is just mind boggling.
Buddy, tell me about it
From a Fellow Bruins fan here. The first 10 times I watched the bennet hit on Marchand I had no problem with it, but as you watch it more, he virtually butt Ended him in the Chin with the stick. Ouch. The No-call last night with the clear cross check into Swayman was a shame. It was deffinetly a game changer and tied the game. The bruins have not looked great, I had them loosing to Florida before this series even started, and if they beat Florida there's no way they beat NYR or Carolina. However, the Refs are Hoeing them out of any chance there good goaltending has given them to win this series.
by the exact wording of the rules, i say no goal. from a goaltenders perspective: this has happened to me a dozen or more times and never once has the referee even considered calling this a no goal. if i had this footage of myself in sways position i would be more upset with my defence than the referee for letting himself end up in that position. in my head canon if i can blame the defence more than the attacker for interference its a good goal
Well said. Goals like this rarely get called off from what I've seen while more often players get called for interference even if the defenseman pushes the attacking player towards the goalie.
are you joking or smoking
Coyle was already in the way of the goalie, before Bennett contact, and rules are talking about an attacking player interfering, who was not even in a crease, without clarifications in the rule, that could be interpreted differently, and by the way it was reviewed, so it is not a missed call.
69.1
Goaltender interference is when, by direct contact, a goaltender’s ability to move freely around the crease is impaired. Contact was a result of Bennett shoving Coyle into Swayman, which, also by rule 69.1, is for the purpose of the rule, the same as Bennett making contact with Swayman
@@queenobamaii3736 ok, if that was so egregious, why did Toronto still allow the goal, and no penalty was assessed?
@@Maksim-lz3og no penalty because penalties aren’t reviewable. Toronto didn’t call it back because they fucking missed it, what kind of argument is that?
the argument is simple, they are supposed to be a "higher" authority, much more savvy than all of us, that's the whole point, they saw it from different angles, supposedly with much higher resolution,
and they made a decision, why? I don't believe they missed that, I'm more interested in what they saw differently, but I guess we will never know that.
As a fan of neither team.
This should not have been a goal.
It’s 100% a valid goal
@@tbd3058no no it’s not
considering they were calling interference penalties by the bunch in that game I'm surprised they didn't call the most obvious and important one
you make a great point
3 interference calls against boston in the 3rd period were a joke
The only thing that I could think of, for why they allowed the goal is that they didn't feel that Bennett pushed Coyle into Swayman, because his arms really didn't extend...going with the thought that Coyle felt the push and embellished on it, causing Swayman to be unable to play the net.
If that's the case, though, they should have said that in the press release.
I mean that is what they said. Swayman would have been unable to make the save (because his teammate spazzed into him). Per the rules Bennett did make contact with him- so the potential for interference is in effect; however, as a result of the embellishment (but not Bennett’s intial contact the goalie was rendered incapable of making the save. The embellishment supersedes the preceding action as the basis of the call.
@@dannytallmage2971 To call this embellishment is ridiculous.
Panthers have such a good team, but they've also had so many controversial goalie interference calls go their way this postseason it's crazy.
I think what they saw was that Coyle was already in the crease before the push and would have impaired Swayman either way
Exactly. Not to mention that it was a rebound making 69.7 operative.
@@dannytallmage2971 Right, the rule clearly says that if it's a rebound and the defenseman's feet are already in the crease, the forward may push him from behind onto the goalie and score a goal. The push from behind is considered "incidental contact" while "playing the puck" as referenced in 69.7. Furthermore, the goal will be allowed to stand if the goalie "Probably wouldn't have made the save anyways". All checks out to me.
Seems to me this is an under-utilized strategy for sure.
@@perrystewart9884 play hockey instead of practicing pratfalls and maybe your goalie can make the save. Better yet stay out of the goalie crease if you are easily pushed around.
@@dannytallmage2971 right, I forgot the rule about being pushed into the goalie that talks about if the push was hard enough to be called or not, and whether or not the player that got pushed was tough enough to have the rule applied. Can you tell me where I can find that part of the rulebook?
@@perrystewart9884 I’d rather point you to a curves exercise gym. You’ve got three chins too many.
Swayman was not able to slide towards the post in any case, he had no momentum when Coyle crashed into him. So Coyle crashing into Swayman had zero impact on the goal, it would have been a goal with or without the push.
It would have been a different story if Swayman was already in motion to make a save but he wasn't.
69.1
Goaltender Interference is when a goalkeeper’s ability to move freely around the crease is impaired.
Tell me that his ability to move freely around the crease wasn’t impaired
As a panthers fan from south Florida this was a horrendous call
As a mayflower descendent Boston fan from beacon hill it was an excellent call.
The problem is that this creates a standard for NHL officiating. They aren’t even trying to hide whatever bias there is. Pat Maroon was booted from the game a few nights ago for TALKING. Bennett doesn’t get anything for sucker punching Marchy in the face, or cross checking Coyle INTO Swayman, preventing both of them from playing the puck? Come on. What a joke. Someone’s getting paid, and it sounds like part of a bigger story to me LOL.
At first I didn’t see the other angle of the hit and thought it was fine but the other view is just awful
Eck we need a video of every GI call alongside every explanation this season to see how the NHL just makes things up as they go. Would pay you to do this
I hate the Bruins with a burning passion, but that is a horrific call. Goaltender interference all day everyday.
My thing is Coyle is still in the way regardless of if there is a push or not and they've allowed bumps from a defending player to still allow Goaltender interference on a collision with an attacking player and the goaltender. The "crosscheck" is not enough for a penalty anyways and Coyle was gonna run into Swayman regardless, its not egregious enough to me where you can absolutely say its a missed call.
that god that your wrong opinion doesnt matter
but you are so wrong that you could be a ref
Bruins have been absolutely FUCKED by the officiating
No, they've been F'ed by the Panthers.
No they’ve been f’d up by an actually physical team. Physical beats dirty ever time.
@@dannytallmage2971 I agree panthers have been more physical , also a dirty team
@@dannytallmage2971dirtier beats dirty. That's the only thing. Don't give me this BS that Panthers are not the dirtiest team in the league lol
Bruins are a close second, but they lost key rats. Panthers just gooned up more this season and are rewarded for that.
@@dannytallmage2971 lol lol lol gotta love the casuals, physical team you say , ok bennett sucker punches Marchand cold, no penalty, no suspension, ok, Maroon visited Bennett the next game and what happened dude? The physical team as you say player TURTLED, turtled, now as a hockey player myself, you do that to a star player you have to answer for it? Or you are to much of a casual to know the hockey code? Ekman larsson punches Coyle in the back of the head, Maroon comes out the very first shift next game, grabs EL and voila turtle number 2 appears, if I was coaching the bruins, I would have had Maroon sucker punch Barkov cold and deal with it. I would have had Frederic go sucker punch Bennett cold and deal with it. the league has had Floridas back all playoffs, so restore dignity to your team. Physical team you say lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, diving, headsnapping, and turtling, is physical hockey? Go watch another sport casual.
Two penalties could have been called here. 1) Bennett cross-checked (not pushed) Coyle. 2) Goaltender interference on Bennett that prevented Swayman from playing his position. The Panthers' goal should have been disallowed.
I actually hate Boston and am rooting for FL in this series (not a fan of either team, but i actively dislike boston)....
But even with me hating Boston, this call is actually so fucking bad. wtf
When there are NO real consequences towards the refs and the league, they will continue to defend WRONG CALLS. All refs should HAVE to face the press after each game. Just like the coaches and players. Unfortunately that will NEVER HAPPEN!
do you think the rewiew center know the rule book? for me it look like they flip a coin when they are not sure what the rule are, but i am probaly wrong
They literally released a video explaining why the goal was good. So yeah they know the rule book
who are in the review room
what angles do they get ?some teams control the video and dont release all the angles to the league
that has been an issue for years now
That puck was going through Coyle's feet and heading towards Bennett's stick regardless of the shove. Coyle was gliding towards Swayman and hence was already in his way and inhibited him from making a save. Bennett scoring there was higher chance than Swayman making a save. I think you have a bad take here.
i think that you are seeing things in a way that suits your narrative
now be a man and admit that it was a bad call your team still won
@@johnholmes8919 No i think your just need to check your eyes
That was GI. Last game Ekblad should have been called on a hold near the end of the game. There are so many more instances of calls going Floridas way. Im stunned we have more PP than Boston. The fact remains, we are shitting on Boston. Rename TD Garden to Miami Garden at this point.
It doesn't look to me like Swayman is pushing off his post. It looks like he is trying to stretch out his right leg to stop the rebound from getting stuffed in. Watch it again and see where his body position is before Coyle even makes contact with him, he's basically dead stopped. They probably allowed it because it could be considered incidental contact since there was a rebound up for grabs.
Rule 69.1 defines goaltender interference as impairment of the goalie’s ability to move freely around the crease. Doesn’t matter what Swayman did or could have possibly done. As soon as his ability to move freely is impaired, it’s goaltender interference
@@queenobamaii3736 Rule 69.7 addresses the exception of goaltender interference.
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@@queenobamaii3736 Rule 69.7 explains the exception to goaltender interference. Swayman made the initial stop, rebound occurs, he stretches leg out, contact occurs, goal goes in. I hate both of these teams, especially the Panthers for putting my Lightning out of the playoffs but it is a good goal as far as I can tell.
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@@queenobamaii3736 I'm guessing I can't post the time stamp because youtube keeps deleting my comment. At 3:53 of this video Rule 69.7 exception is explained. Swayman made the initial stop and a rebound was up for grabs, rule 69.7 is in effect so the goal was allowed.
@@viciousnugget 69.7 describes a “rebound situation” as when the goalkeeper and attacker simultaneously attempt to play a loose puck. Clearly does not apply here
Panthers have 21 powerplays in 4 games & Boston has 11. This feels like the league is directing this as a desired result
Dude, it's a matter of who is playing more disciplined hockey. Looks like Florida is a little more disciplined. Sure there are missed calls and all that. But to say the refs are favoring Florida over Boston, and use that as an excuse is just a way of diverting attention away from the fact that Florida is outplayed Boston.
@@jimbosmith6327 You're trying to tell me your cheap shot Panthers play more disciplined hockey? Get the fuck up outta here. Tkachuk is looking like the biggest goon on the ice every chance he gets.
@@jimbosmith6327Florida are holding and interfering on almost every play. They aren't more disciplined, they just don't receive any discipline from the refs.
@@theMrFouldsy Second most penalized team is suddenly "disciplined" in the playoffs AND can run roughshod in the crease, but impeding Bob's view might get a goal called back. Bettman has placed his bet.
That is a damning statistic considering Florida's playing "style"
By the rules stated and reviewed in the video, yes Bennett’s push counts as the attacking player making contact, that checks out. But as shown with rule 69.7, you can plainly see the puck is rebounded off Swayman before Boston’s player is even making contact with him (and again, this counts as the attacking player making contact), so rule 69.7 takes effect and incidental contact is permissible, good goal
This is not incidental contact
Getting cross checked in the back in the crease is always incidental contact. If youre playing Florida. And it's a post season game
Swayman was not attempting to play the same loose puck that Bennett was. The puck became loose well after Swayman had played it
you are wrong but you dont care about that do you
Still can't believe this was called a goal
It was a 100% valid goal. Get over it. You not liking it is irrelevant
Why did you come to a video titled “This call was actually disgraceful” if you so clearly believe it was a 100% valid goal? To pick fights in the comment section?
@@wilferrero244hes so obviously trolling. Dont even entertain it
They took 2 goals away from Tampa for being in Bob's area code in round 1, then allow this travesty.
I can.
People just can't handle Boston getting owned.
what does that mean
are you in grade 5
@@johnholmes8919 It just means that Panthers are a better team and that Bruins-fans are having a hard team understanding this. They are in grade 5.
Honestly Bennett needs to get called on his shenanigans he gets away with a bit too much
Has anyone else noticed how bad pro sports officiating has become with sports betting now being so intertwined with the sport...
yes we all have
It would be interesting to see how good Florida is if they had to play by the same rules as everyone else.
Yep, preferential treatment both rounds so far.
Only thing I can think is the rule regarding rebounds. As you mentioned, when both the skater and the goalie are playing the puck in a rebound situation the goal can be allowed.
That's quite a stretch though in this situation. That rule is intended to be if the player swiped at a puck and incidentally knocks the glove away with his stick. Not if he full on shoves his opponent into the crease.
Swayman wasn’t trying to play the loose puck
The bruins #1 enemy is their own forecheck. To win games you have to score the most goals. And to score goals you have to take shots. Something they did 0 times in the final 14 minutes of the game.
Yeah maybe if they weren’t on the pk for 8 of those 14 minutes 😂
@@N1ckeroo the shots going into the 3rd were something like 28-16 Florida. They were in control of the game all night winning most of the puck battles. Boston was praying their goaltending could keep them ahead in the 3rd and decided they didn't have to forcheck or take shots anymore to win. They're just gonna try to trap and stall this game out.
Well then florida scored. Their gameplan of not forchecking and waiting for the period to end should have changed at that point but it didn't. Then florida scored again and boston responded by losing every puck battle and taking 0 shots on net.
@@lenkennedy9214 “they were in control all night” it was 2-0 for over half the game LMFAO the refs gave the cats all the momentum.. also, shots don’t have any relevance to the call, would’ve been a 2-1 game
@@N1ckeroo they controlled the play. They had the puck more, took way more shots and won most of the puck battles. They outshot bost something like 14-5 in the 1st and boston was lucky to get out of the first up 2-0 when they were outshot 14-5. They were in control on the scoreboard yes, but not in control on the actual ice they were plwying on. They hoped their goalie could steal another game for them and they wouldn't have to score anymore goals because boston but florida kept playing their game and boston kept being lazy and florida eventually started burying their chances. You gave up 42 shots. Thats not exactly a winning formula. Poor Swayman. He tried to bail you out again. You wouldn't even be in round 2 if he didn't play out of his mind with a .950 save% in round 1.
@@N1ckeroo did they really get 4 powerplays in the final 14 minutes? Are you sure about that? If so one of them was for that failed review. Also didn't boston get 2 late powerplays. 1 in the final minute. And still got 0 shots. Because they don't have very good offense. You need a new #1 center. Tell your GM to sign Stamkos or another elite 1st line center this off season. Charlie Coyle is a 2nd or 3rd line center. No offense.
Just a reminder, some of these refs completely fucking games up are still pocketing north of 150K-400K a year.... unacceptable
Maybe one of the Boston players making 4-10 million dollars a year should have done something other than forecheck. So funny how bussied out groupies never say a peep about the players sucking.