he is not being cancelled , he is being held accountable. if the tennis media can critique ostapenko or putintseva on their tantrums and antics, i think it should also be fair to criticize established media members, hot mic or not.
Damn well said. ‘Cancel culture’ Is a bullshit term meant to deflect from accountability and absolve from responsibility. Jon Wertheim has a long history of being careless with his words. The stuff he said about Novak Djokovic over the years alone..
Criticism is fair. A short suspension maybe… but spare me the hysteria. Every single person on earth has said something unkind at one point or another. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw over the top rocks.
Tennis is not a sport for tolerating tantrums even though Nastase and Mac and Connors made it more fashionable. This is a cultural revolution and it needs to be balanced and fair. She already knows she had a big head and should shrug it off as genes instead of making such a big deal about it. All emotional and she needs thicker skin. I can't imagine Navarro being offended or Pegula, Swiatek or Sabby. From a previous generation, Stefi Graf, Evert, Lendl (S.I.'s "The Champion Nobody Cares About", or Kevin Curren (daddy long legs) would have made a big deal out of it.
I don't think it matters that he didn't know it was live. If anything it kinda exposed what kind of comments he feels comfortable making about players when he's not on air and I truly wish they employed people who don't make derogatory and disrespectful comments about players' appearance even off air, I'm sure there are people like that out there. And saying that if Jon said something negative about Medvedev's hairline, people wouldn't be outraged is so weird to me. He didn't, and that's the thing, commentators and other professionals in the sports field feel much more comfortable commenting on women's looks, and you compare it to some anonymous internet users laughing at Meddy's hairline. You can't really cancel someone who's a nobody but we can try to make sports a healthier environment for women (and men if they feel disrespected by any comments) by getting rid of the toxic units among the people who are supposed to commentate on the matches, not whether someone wears makeup or not or that they have a big forehead, it's really not that hard to just not comment on someone's appearance in general. Jon's apology didn't even sound fully remorseful to me, the written one especially where he was trying to explain the context as if it made it any better. I don't exactly understand what you mean by mentioning that society got more sensitive and something about cancel culture. I think it's good that people react to clear disrespect, it's not because they're overly sensitive but because they have empathy imo. It's not cancel culture to want a person who made a mistake to be held accountable, there were and still are too many examples of that not happening (like Kyrgios who you mentioned in the video)
100% agree. Also, he totally loses all legitimacy in my book by showing that he’s truly two faced. So goody goody on air and then nasty af off air. I don’t like kyrgios but he’s never pretended to not be an a-hole at least.
Even though I don't agree with everything you wrote, I also thought that the apology was basically an attempt for an explanation. Which takes away from a sincere " I just messed up, I promise to do and be better in the future by educating myself, I am sorry". But even if he had the perfect apology I think people would have not forgiven him and remind him of this incident for the rest of his professional life. And I find that sad as well.
@@Vescilla I agree JW should be held accountable as well. Whether his apology was genuine or not is only something JW can know as we cannot read his mind. Having said that, making gratuitously offensive marks about a player’s physical appearance is completely unprofessional and reflects poorly on the sports media industry. But you should also point out the hypocrisy of outrage over this off-air offensive comment when juxtaposing it to the myriad of appalling remarks NK has made and continues to make while still being hired by major networks. It’s all unacceptable imo. The biggest irony in all of this is that JW and his colleagues recently expressed that the drama Nick Kyrios brings to tennis is “good for the sport”. I wonder if they still feel that way now. Many of us, in fact probably the majority of tennis fans, prefer to keep the clown brigade out of the sport. it brings zero of value to it.
I don't agree with everyone who is claiming that this is se*ist. Not every rude or disrespectful comment towards a woman is se*ist. He definitely needed to be suspended, though. It was extremely disrespectful to Barb and Zheng
@@a55tech This jerk said at the end "Krejcikova and Zheng" are 4 heads. I definitely disagree with Christian that Tennis Channel blew it disapprobation. The jerk should be suspended. Btw, you are not going to become a better person if you hang out with Roddick too much. That guy has a huge mouth and acts he is the GOAT of tennis
@@mikef6399 o dang dude really got a thing against foreheads lol Maybe christian just tryna get hisself a buffer in case his mouff slip when he on live air ha
@@sandychin1326 even bigger question to add from my pov is this: I would, if I were her, remember that now the top 10 are 8s, 9s or 10s. That's where our society is going. The top women (big example is Aryna S. ) are all wearing makeup. I prefer the regular players, Stefi Grafs, Monica Seless, Aranxta Sanchezs, Hana Mandkikovas and Chris Everts to this catwalk today. They should all stop with this glamor-girl stuff, started imo in the 90s with Kournikova, and then with Sharapova. It makes the ladies feel insecure, this defense mechanism as we saw here
@@info781 Entertainment? He's a journalist making fun of an athlete's appearance, god forbid we give a green light to that behavior...Secondly anyone working a job that's worth something should know better than to do what he did. Go to your job and make jokes about the physical features of your colleagues and see how that turns out.
@@declanwalsh3216 It's the on the job part that you're not factoring in...Assuming you have one, go to your job and make comments about your coworkers physical appearance and report back to us.
Sorry, but Wortheim keeps referencing " hot mic" this, "hot mic" that, as if suggesting if there was no hot mic, this whole mess would not be happening. In other words, it's ok to say things like this as long as there are no "hot mics" 😂😂😂 too funny and wrong! Suspension definitely warranted. I don't think it's something perhaps that should derail his career, but most definitely put a stain on it.
This mess obviously wouldn't be happening if it wasn't recorded... And him saying this doesn't mean that he thinks it would be okay to say this in private. You're the one who's assuming that even though it's not what he said.
Well, even if it was not supposed to be on air, he was caught showing his true colors. Self deprecating or not, he used someone else for his remarks so it was just tasteless. Having said that, I think a suspension is enough. I don't believe in cancelling s.o. but to give people a second chance to learn from their mistakes.
The mistake isn’t getting caught. Wrong take Christian. He made fun of someone. That’s the mistake. If it was never recorded or never heard by anyone outside the studio, it would still be a mistake. Is it a sexist mistake? Hard to say, but women definitely have more issues with body shaming than men do. Should he have been suspended? Also hard to say, but better to err on the side of making a point about what behavior is unacceptable than to risk subtly endorsing it.
@@declanwalsh3216 Good to know that those are the only things that have consequences. He is a public figure and his words matter. Ultimately, it is the responsibility of his company to decide if he should be suspended. Try making fun of people at work in the real world and see how long you stay employed. And he wasn’t making fun of a random person in the world, he was making fun someone he “works with” and reports on.
Sorry, Christian, you are way off the mark. Did you not read Barbora’s post? As she said, this is not the first time this has happened in sports. Imagine devoting your life to tennis to have this garbage posted publicly. Comparisons are irrelevant. Normatively, this is inexcusable. Tennis Channel’s actions were appropriate. People do not apologize only because they get caught. What a cynical position. You have lost a sub, I am sorry.
Hi Tom, I understand your decision to unsubscribe to Christian's channel, and I respect your feelings. I also recognize that you subscribed for a reason in the first place, and it's clear that the content meant something to you. That said, I feel like this situation is an opportunity to agree to disagree rather than unsubscribe entirely. By the way, Barbora's post about "this is not the first time this has happened in sports" is so true. In 1997, Less than two years into her comeback, Monica Seles was already being branded a "has-been." Her grunts were scrutinized for their decibel level. She was called fat. One male tennis player even saw her at the player food court and referred to her as a "fat cow." She was advised to wear different tennis dresses. In one tabloid, her head was photo-shopped onto the body of a middle-aged woman with dimpled, cellulite-ridden thighs. This was the harsh reality of Seles' post-stabbing career-and throughout it all, no one stepped forward to defend her. So yeah, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED IN SPORTS.
This is by far the most accurate comment about this topic. He has such a superficial knowledge of tennis and his commentary is always the most mundane and dithering
Used to work with Wertheim. He’s definitely one of the good guys. CLEARLY caught off guard making a comment he never intended to air or be hurtful. That said, this was mild compared to what I’ve heard other sports writers/editors and podcasters say about star athletes off camera. Had he made this remark intentionally on air, he’d deserve the harsh criticism. This will blow over.
Thank you, Christian for covering this. I think you and Jon Wertheim create great content and are good for tennis. Jon's apology is sincere and I hope both of you work at Tennis Channel together.
IT was terrible --- but also kind not been fair because when Nick said so many inappropriate things about WTA players like Anna Kalinskaya why is he not pulled out and be condemned the same way?....Not saying people don't make mistakes, and should allowed learning from it and being better. BUT -- SAME STANDARD? please?
Nick was cancelled after that tweet which was seriously provoked by sinner's fans bombarding him and his family for three weeks. He kept silent. It was Jon who cancelled him
Think about what you just said. Just think what it means when nobody says "...anything that can be viewed as controversial." Really think about what that means.
What a person does and says when they think no one's looking reveals their true character. Wertheim has shown himself to be an unprofessional turd of a human being.
Thank you Christian for the video. Agreed times have changed and ultimately for the better as people's physical appearance should not be relevant and in this case what is relevant is Krejcikova's tennis and her dedication as an athlete. Agreed it may seem a comment about a forehead seems trivial but it has nothing to do with tennis, is personal not professional and is similar in point to Broken Windows theory. Letting smaller matters go unchecked opens the way to a particular attitude and behavior.
Blown out of proportion* in my opinion. He made a self deprecating joke that unfortunately was tasteless! He apologised. That’s all that there should be about it. 🤷🏿♂️
Stupid comment & stupid mistake ... but cancel him for that it is what got Trump elected. The silent majority doesn't find this necessarily. Jon has had an amazing career and his way of taking responsibility for his comment is more important as an example than punishing him.
Tbh Krejcikova’s and Zheng’s forehead are very normal. Most female tennis players pull their hair back when they’re playing so it makes their forehead just a little bit more prominent than usual. Commenting on any aspect of a female players appearance that does not have any connection to their game is extremely unprofessional. Personally I think TC should set an example and just fire him permanently.
At least JW apologized. Nick Kyrios continuously makes appalling and offensive remarks to much fanfare from his coterie of clowns on social media yet still manages to impress HR at ESPN.
100% I don’t particularly like John Wertheim and he deserves at least a temporary suspension but people allow Nick Kyrgios to get away with way worse just because he says shit like that all the time
Gill Gross generally takes quite a while to comment on issues (it was the same with the Sinner doping saga), so I would just wait and see if he puts up a video before commenting this.
At the end of the day, Jon should've watched what he said. If you take chances like that, you stand to get 'served' a life sentence. You never know who's listening and/or watching.
This man has form and I'm so glad he's been exposed - go back and find his comments when Black former tennis player, James Blake was assaulted by the police and wrongly arrested; something btw for which the police apologised profusely. It's a measure of the man and so ironic that given his own, let's say politely, less than attractive facial features, he would have the audacity to criticise anyone's looks. But of of course that's precisely how sexism and misogyny work; even the ugliest men will feel they have the right to ridicule and undermine a woman's appearance. Glad he's been held accountable. It's nothing to do with cancel culture, it's about man in a position of power feeling he had the right to undermine and humiliate a woman while she was doing her job.
At the risk of being inappropriate with this comment, I wish I had teeth as good as you brother. They are super, super good! Thanks for all the commentary. I watch your channel all the time. Excellent work. 👊
In her statement at the point she said 'disappointed' I get it. Here in the Uk John Inverdale said much worse about Marion Bartoli (her weight and looks) he apologised thereafter nothing happened regarding punishment
@ChristiansCourt in the uk, you're deemed to be a 'snowflake or too woke and can't take a joke.' That being said, it often depends on who is being joked about.
True, I think he would have been suspended if he said that today. I remember when he said that, and it was really bad, insensitive and misogynistic. Jackass.
Thanks for this commentary Christian. I totally agree with you and support your opinion. When he made the comment, I laughed cause she does have a big forehead, but I don’t think it was sexist. TTC made the right decision to avoid a backlash from subscribers. I for one, will continue to support your channel unlike some folks here. You had an opinion and as a TH-camr, you gave it. No need to hate someone cause you disagree with them. Great work as always. 😊😊😊😊😊
@@32sultan gotcha gotcha you’re right. I was mostly listening to Christians show and when I heard Twitter account I didn’t know it was a a full session. (Sorry, don’t have Twitter!) I was looking for the full broadcast on YT.
He would’ve never made that comment about a man- men don’t comment on other men’s appearances in a negative way they would only do that to women so in a round about way it very much so is sexist!
They didn't suspend the twirp Tracy Austin when she was mimicking a Romanian coach talking to his female player. The studio came back early, they were still talking and the twirp was " pretending" she was speaking in Romanian.
A bit disappointed in your take honestly, especially talking about how we've become too sensitive! No one wants these comments made about them, it's mean and it doesn't come down to sensitivity, it comes down to professionalism and just time and place for comments like that.... I know people will always say them, but with a microphone on while you're about to be on live TV is one of the silliest places ever... I think your comparison to Medvedev is completely understandable, but he's not a woman, and that's where you lost me. You said 15 years ago that what commentators said about women were horrific and most of our players today were watching said comments be made growing up! The suspension is very transparent, especially with the NK comparison. Though he is a player and like you said, TC wants to keep the players happy over everything.
Speaking from experience, comments on a woman's appearance are a definite no-go. He’s a grown man, and I’m sure someone has given him a warned him before-probably more than once. But here we are, and it’s out in the open. In the media, especially, there’s just no room for careless comments; it’s just too big a platform. I’m sure he regrets it, and while Tennis Channel may have come down a bit hard, they likely felt they had to take a stance. Christian will blow up soon in the tennis world and probably become a top commentator someday. Keep grinding; I’m rooting for him!
please you dont need to repeat the comment men been doing this forever remember the crap the williams sisters this guy should be fired you need to stand up to this jerk
Hey, Christian!(fellow predictor of the geat RG run for Paolini here) Is there any way I could reach out to you privately(tried it on twitter, but your dm's are closed), regarding a possible fun collab idea? Would explain it more in detail in private, so I would really appreciate your response
I mean, Jon intended on saying that and he got caught. He owned up to it and made a sincere apology. The problem is not the intend to harm, it is the acceptance of the culture to poke fun at others expense. It’s unfortunate because there are many other seriously bad actors in Tennis Channel and Tennis TV, but the acceptance of these jokes on a hot mic or not toward athletes that are just there to perform is a culture issue. And in our society, we have accepted too much, people’s feelings have been hurt too long, cancel culture was inevitable and cancel culture happens on all sides of the isle because society is in it’s grievance and revenge era. This is why we blame cancel culture, and it’s really the product of grievance in our society. And people tune out calls of cancel culture so it falls on deaf ears
That is a very decent apology 👏👏 Yes Jon made a mistake, he owned it and sincerely spoke about it, can we not demonize him? The penalty was too harsh, sorry !
i agree 100 percent with what you said ! i don’t think if was intentional , but if was good for a suspension. There are people on twitter who don’t like him, as you mentioned are using this to go overboard. These people are trying to ruin his career . it was overblown, he apologized and he shouldn’t be ostrized by the tennis community or lose his livelihood
I’m willing to give Jon the benefit of the doubt, based on his explanation. And that he was more making fun of himself and not taking a jab at Babs. Unfortunately these days, most people assume the worst and do a dog pile on social media. I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Hope to see Jon back on TC I’m 2025.
I think the problem goes beyond tennis. It is constant that female athletes get comments on physical appearance on top of their career achievements. It’s though to compare to how a male would react because they haven’t had a history of this. I don’t know if it’s fair or not, but I think the discussion should be on why is this still happening… female athletes don’t start from cero carrying this judgement, there’s a history of it and this should be addressed.
And sadly...T2 is predominantly all ATP matches. We have to wait until Tuesdays to even see Barbora or any other woman professional athlete play tennis. I hope this exposes more and changes are made!!!
Worry about a forehead comment not even intended for anyone but the other person, but play bloodmoney tournament in the human rights abusing Saudi Arabia. No wonder the world is a dystopia.
This is how these people actually feel. I remember when he began in tennis. Looked forward to his TENNIS views. It seems they get very smug with their access to "THE LIFE".
Good that he was put in his place. The hate athletes receive from the public only gets encouraged by disrespectful comments in the media. There are countless disrespectful commentators outside english speaking tennis world.
2 years ago he was doing a witch-hunt asking Novak's sponsors to abandon him when he was getting deported where was his compassion then ?? .. karma is a bitch fast forward 2 years later now he got kicked out from tennis channel .. God watches everything what goes around comes around..
Funny how we have a president that can say any jackass shit and it’s business as usual, but one goofy comment by a commentator and we have people losing their shit! It’s a dumb comment he made, but people can have a sense of humor and laugh it off instead of constantly getting butt-hurt and offended! He was even making fun of himself in the process! People need to get the fuck over it!
"Cancel culture" isn't the same as being held accountable for your actions in the public space. In this situation, Jon did something inappropriate and unprofessional in public and is just being held accountable. However, after apologising and being taken off air for a period of time, he should be given the opportunity to come back and move on. I also think people are using the term "sexism" (perhaps incorrectly) to highlight that there was likely a gender dynamic at play in him making the comment. I would bet my money that he made that comment in order to get some reaction from the men around him, and would have thought twice about saying it out loud if there was a woman present.
Tracy Austin was sitting at the desk, she didn't even look up at him when he said it. It might be because this type of "behind the scenes" banter goes on a LOT! We, the public are just hearing about it. The girl (Barbora) was hurt by it and JW should really look at himself and within himself as he really does not have room to come for another person's appearance! At all! 😒
I think the overreaction was taking him off the air indefinitely (that was not warranted) but people still ig have a right to stay angry? Plus also he is heavily critical of players and what they say so the hypocrisy aspect may have contributed to the outrage
Always check to see if your mic is on. Justin Gimblestob was fired by TC for arguing at his house. You have to be careful. He might be gone from TC for good.
I became more familiar with Jon Wertheim via the Andy Roddick podcast and personally he comes across as snarky to me. I can see him being a menace behind the scenes lol
This wasn’t even all that serious in my opinion lol they actin like he said she was ugly or something all he did was say something about her forehead in a lite joking way but let’s all be honest here she does have a big forehead and that’s the truth plus she is a grown woman not a little girl comments like this shouldn’t even bother her or other people, sheesh we live in such a super sensitive society smh
Iga Swaitek has similar forehead.. Iga keeps her baseball hat 🧢 on, whenever she playing..that’s neither here nor there. Just imagine what these white commentators are saying about the black players on tour behind the scenes.
It's sexist because, sadly, women have been made to feel like their appearance is as important, if not more important than their talent and achievement. Also, it's not quite the same to comment on a man's hairline as it is to do so on a woman's. It may have been an overreaction to fire, though. I suppose if Krejikova publicly accepts his apology and forgives him, then i say, let's move on.
I think...it's very sad situation. Remember a few months ago you called out Kyrgios as misogynistic, sexist, disgusting, must never be seen on our screens again? He was a novice presenter, had that photo barraged at him for three weeks and finally cracked under the stress of horrible social media comments about his family as well as himself. He tweeted, not expecting the tweet to be retweeted around the world. Jon, who should have mentoring him, instead crucified him. He wrote disgusting articles about Kyrgios, for three weeks, demanding his cancellation which led to people like you making long videos without looking behind the tweet (you misquoted it here already). Jon is a full time commentator and I sure hope he comes back soon. Kyrgios will probably never come back. He is too honest, Too off the cuff, uses the sort of language such as 'trash-talking' that is acceptable in other sports that he loves. He was good at the way he worked and you destroyed him for a single tweet which was not intended to be heard any more than Jon's single remark. Go figure.
She KNOWS what she looks like and I've said already, so does GOD! We don't get to choose what we look like. It was insensitive; tacky and quite disrespectful! He knew what he was saying especially when he added "8 head" at the end. I've heard him slip and call Coco, "Coco Nut"; maybe that's a cute, little nickname he has for her but I doubt it. He was remorseful and apologetic because he got caught! Professionalism sticks to the PROFESSION! He was out of line.
None of us are perfect. We all say dumb shit. People on social media pretending they haven’t said worse is laughable. I said terrible shit. That was meant to be private. Why is TC not off-air when doing testing? Everybody is trying to capitalize on being authentic. Give me a break. I have a big nose, and someone saying that doesn't change that. What a joke!
@@mikef6399 Have you examined society lately? Humans are sheep, just chasing the carrot stick. This is selective outrage. We should be outraged about many other things, but we chose this one. How funny! Is this the hill that we are going to die on? What Jon said was awful, but I have heard worse. He mentioned Zheng in his diatribe, but no one is outraged about that.
I'll be honest, I was more offended about Jon Wertheim talking about the meritocracy of billionaires during the US Open... I'm not shocked that he would attack Krejcikova's physical appearance, because he is an Ivy League educated neoliberal snob that is a bit out of touch similar to the likes of Bill Maher.
Ur take is so distorted and I’m so glad all the comments reflect how much they disagree with you. Proof that just because u have a TH-cam channel doesn’t mean u have the right take on things. There’s a history of sportscasters degrading women and talking about their looks- what’s that got to do with her tennis? Not a damn thing! Sad u look back on the days when they called black people monkeys as the good ol’ days! Just because people were despicable and said sexist things back in the day and we’re allowed to without consequence doesn’t mean that we’re soft now or too sensitive it means we’re more educated and when u know better ur supposed to do better! Wholeheartedly strongly disagree with everything u said!
We all make jokes about other people's looks. Ehat are we coming to? A man losing his job over a silly joke? Esp when the stuff wasn't meant to be on air
It’s unfortunate! He human okay! He respected her, he just noticed her forehead. He accountable! No one is perfect, it was not his best moment! Relax - time to move on to something better John!
It’s so rich that we’re having this pile-on discussion after the US election results. We all need to stop talking for once and reflect because none of us (the collective) have any moral compass.
he is not being cancelled , he is being held accountable. if the tennis media can critique ostapenko or putintseva on their tantrums and antics, i think it should also be fair to criticize established media members, hot mic or not.
Damn well said.
‘Cancel culture’
Is a bullshit term meant to deflect from accountability and absolve from responsibility.
Jon Wertheim has a long history of being careless with his words. The stuff he said about Novak Djokovic over the years alone..
Criticism is fair. A short suspension maybe… but spare me the hysteria. Every single person on earth has said something unkind at one point or another. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw over the top rocks.
@@whatevs1700 Yep making a dumb joke warrants an apology not loss of work
If it were a comment mad by a woman about a male player there would have been no fuss
Tennis is not a sport for tolerating tantrums even though Nastase and Mac and Connors made it more fashionable. This is a cultural revolution and it needs to be balanced and fair. She already knows she had a big head and should shrug it off as genes instead of making such a big deal about it. All emotional and she needs thicker skin. I can't imagine Navarro being offended or Pegula, Swiatek or Sabby. From a previous generation, Stefi Graf, Evert, Lendl (S.I.'s "The Champion Nobody Cares About", or Kevin Curren (daddy long legs) would have made a big deal out of it.
I don't think it matters that he didn't know it was live. If anything it kinda exposed what kind of comments he feels comfortable making about players when he's not on air and I truly wish they employed people who don't make derogatory and disrespectful comments about players' appearance even off air, I'm sure there are people like that out there.
And saying that if Jon said something negative about Medvedev's hairline, people wouldn't be outraged is so weird to me. He didn't, and that's the thing, commentators and other professionals in the sports field feel much more comfortable commenting on women's looks, and you compare it to some anonymous internet users laughing at Meddy's hairline. You can't really cancel someone who's a nobody but we can try to make sports a healthier environment for women (and men if they feel disrespected by any comments) by getting rid of the toxic units among the people who are supposed to commentate on the matches, not whether someone wears makeup or not or that they have a big forehead, it's really not that hard to just not comment on someone's appearance in general.
Jon's apology didn't even sound fully remorseful to me, the written one especially where he was trying to explain the context as if it made it any better.
I don't exactly understand what you mean by mentioning that society got more sensitive and something about cancel culture. I think it's good that people react to clear disrespect, it's not because they're overly sensitive but because they have empathy imo. It's not cancel culture to want a person who made a mistake to be held accountable, there were and still are too many examples of that not happening (like Kyrgios who you mentioned in the video)
Exactly my thoughts.
100% agree. Also, he totally loses all legitimacy in my book by showing that he’s truly two faced. So goody goody on air and then nasty af off air. I don’t like kyrgios but he’s never pretended to not be an a-hole at least.
Even though I don't agree with everything you wrote, I also thought that the apology was basically an attempt for an explanation. Which takes away from a sincere " I just messed up, I promise to do and be better in the future by educating myself, I am sorry". But even if he had the perfect apology I think people would have not forgiven him and remind him of this incident for the rest of his professional life. And I find that sad as well.
@@Vescilla I agree JW should be held accountable as well. Whether his apology was genuine or not is only something JW can know as we cannot read his mind. Having said that, making gratuitously offensive marks about a player’s physical appearance is completely unprofessional and reflects poorly on the sports media industry. But you should also point out the hypocrisy of outrage over this off-air offensive comment when juxtaposing it to the myriad of appalling remarks NK has made and continues to make while still being hired by major networks. It’s all unacceptable imo. The biggest irony in all of this is that JW and his colleagues recently expressed that the drama Nick Kyrios brings to tennis is “good for the sport”. I wonder if they still feel that way now. Many of us, in fact probably the majority of tennis fans, prefer to keep the clown brigade out of the sport. it brings zero of value to it.
What was SO bad about his joking?
I don't agree with everyone who is claiming that this is se*ist. Not every rude or disrespectful comment towards a woman is se*ist.
He definitely needed to be suspended, though. It was extremely disrespectful to Barb and Zheng
how is zheng involved w/ this
@@a55tech This jerk said at the end "Krejcikova and Zheng" are 4 heads. I definitely disagree with Christian that Tennis Channel blew it disapprobation. The jerk should be suspended. Btw, you are not going to become a better person if you hang out with Roddick too much. That guy has a huge mouth and acts he is the GOAT of tennis
@@mikef6399 o dang dude really got a thing against foreheads lol
Maybe christian just tryna get hisself a buffer in case his mouff slip when he on live air ha
The bigger question here is what would’ve been done internally even if it wasn’t a hot mic? Staff heard that. What would’ve happened?
@@sandychin1326 drama drama not a biggie
@@sandychin1326 even bigger question to add from my pov is this: I would, if I were her, remember that now the top 10 are 8s, 9s or 10s. That's where our society is going. The top women (big example is Aryna S. ) are all wearing makeup. I prefer the regular players, Stefi Grafs, Monica Seless, Aranxta Sanchezs, Hana Mandkikovas and Chris Everts to this catwalk today. They should all stop with this glamor-girl stuff, started imo in the 90s with Kournikova, and then with Sharapova. It makes the ladies feel insecure, this defense mechanism as we saw here
He was at work, he should've never felt that comfortable on his job to make that kind of remark....Do your job and go home.
I want people to feel comfortable to make jokes, it is entertainment.
@@info781 Entertainment? He's a journalist making fun of an athlete's appearance, god forbid we give a green light to that behavior...Secondly anyone working a job that's worth something should know better than to do what he did. Go to your job and make jokes about the physical features of your colleagues and see how that turns out.
People make comments about others every day. It would only be serious if he said it to her face or with anger
@@declanwalsh3216 It's the on the job part that you're not factoring in...Assuming you have one, go to your job and make comments about your coworkers physical appearance and report back to us.
@@terrylrichardson1947 He is not a doctor or police officer, he is a commentator he is supposed to make comments.
Sorry, but Wortheim keeps referencing " hot mic" this, "hot mic" that, as if suggesting if there was no hot mic, this whole mess would not be happening.
In other words, it's ok to say things like this as long as there are no "hot mics" 😂😂😂 too funny and wrong! Suspension definitely warranted.
I don't think it's something perhaps that should derail his career, but most definitely put a stain on it.
This mess obviously wouldn't be happening if it wasn't recorded...
And him saying this doesn't mean that he thinks it would be okay to say this in private.
You're the one who's assuming that even though it's not what he said.
Well, even if it was not supposed to be on air, he was caught showing his true colors. Self deprecating or not, he used someone else for his remarks so it was just tasteless.
Having said that, I think a suspension is enough. I don't believe in cancelling s.o. but to give people a second chance to learn from their mistakes.
@@marcelredplanet3765 not a big deal. That's girl behavior. Men don't get into that stuff
The mistake isn’t getting caught. Wrong take Christian. He made fun of someone. That’s the mistake. If it was never recorded or never heard by anyone outside the studio, it would still be a mistake. Is it a sexist mistake? Hard to say, but women definitely have more issues with body shaming than men do. Should he have been suspended? Also hard to say, but better to err on the side of making a point about what behavior is unacceptable than to risk subtly endorsing it.
agreed.
Agreed it’s shocking just how out of touch Christian is with this take!!!
He did not hit, murder or rob someone. Everyone makes comments good and bad about people
Best to not censor anyone. Stop. It's judging and more judgmental than his little self-inflicted (his own forehead) joke
@@declanwalsh3216 Good to know that those are the only things that have consequences. He is a public figure and his words matter. Ultimately, it is the responsibility of his company to decide if he should be suspended. Try making fun of people at work in the real world and see how long you stay employed. And he wasn’t making fun of a random person in the world, he was making fun someone he “works with” and reports on.
Sorry, Christian, you are way off the mark. Did you not read Barbora’s post? As she said, this is not the first time this has happened in sports. Imagine devoting your life to tennis to have this garbage posted publicly. Comparisons are irrelevant. Normatively, this is inexcusable. Tennis Channel’s actions were appropriate. People do not apologize only because they get caught. What a cynical position. You have lost a sub, I am sorry.
Hi Tom, I understand your decision to unsubscribe to Christian's channel, and I respect your feelings. I also recognize that you subscribed for a reason in the first place, and it's clear that the content meant something to you. That said, I feel like this situation is an opportunity to agree to disagree rather than unsubscribe entirely. By the way, Barbora's post about "this is not the first time this has happened in sports" is so true. In 1997, Less than two years into her comeback, Monica Seles was already being branded a "has-been." Her grunts were scrutinized for their decibel level. She was called fat. One male tennis player even saw her at the player food court and referred to her as a "fat cow." She was advised to wear different tennis dresses. In one tabloid, her head was photo-shopped onto the body of a middle-aged woman with dimpled, cellulite-ridden thighs.
This was the harsh reality of Seles' post-stabbing career-and throughout it all, no one stepped forward to defend her. So yeah, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED IN SPORTS.
@@mvdqphe just made a forehead joke he did not call her fat or ugly.
I think he will get over your loss. Stop being a snowflake
Christian, sorry Bro, your totally wrong in how you perceive this, but hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion 😂😂
It was a stupid thing for Wertheim to say period. But TBH it's no huge loss for the TC, Wertheim always has the most basic banal takes on tennis.
This is by far the most accurate comment about this topic. He has such a superficial knowledge of tennis and his commentary is always the most mundane and dithering
So true... He says a lot but really not saying much at all, of much depth anyways 😂😂 always the most bland commentary
Wow sad women are always judge the hardest in every sport that’s sad
3:58 well that makes it even worse if Barbora’ s team member is a ‘good friend to you’… 🙃
Used to work with Wertheim. He’s definitely one of the good guys. CLEARLY caught off guard making a comment he never intended to air or be hurtful. That said, this was mild compared to what I’ve heard other sports writers/editors and podcasters say about star athletes off camera. Had he made this remark intentionally on air, he’d deserve the harsh criticism. This will blow over.
Thank you, Christian for covering this. I think you and Jon Wertheim create great content and are good for tennis. Jon's apology is sincere and I hope both of you work at Tennis Channel together.
IT was terrible --- but also kind not been fair because when Nick said so many inappropriate things about WTA players like Anna Kalinskaya why is he not pulled out and be condemned the same way?....Not saying people don't make mistakes, and should allowed learning from it and being better. BUT -- SAME STANDARD? please?
Nick was cancelled after that tweet which was seriously provoked by sinner's fans bombarding him and his family for three weeks. He kept silent. It was Jon who cancelled him
Rule 1: Never say anything that can be viewed as controversial!! He went to Yale so he should know that.
He went to Yale?
So did the Clintons. Did it make them a better person???
Think about what you just said. Just think what it means when nobody says "...anything that can be viewed as controversial." Really think about what that means.
@@mikef6399Like with Donald J. Trump? Ivy league grad too! 🫢😂
At least trump wouldn't give Ukraine to attack Russia so russia can attack Europe. k@@godz4ever404
Great take Christian. Always excellent analyses.
What a person does and says when they think no one's looking reveals their true character. Wertheim has shown himself to be an unprofessional turd of a human being.
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Thank you Christian for the video. Agreed times have changed and ultimately for the better as people's physical appearance should not be relevant and in this case what is relevant is Krejcikova's tennis and her dedication as an athlete. Agreed it may seem a comment about a forehead seems trivial but it has nothing to do with tennis, is personal not professional and is similar in point to Broken Windows theory. Letting smaller matters go unchecked opens the way to a particular attitude and behavior.
I think everyone wants to take offence over the smallest things
Blown out of proportion* in my opinion. He made a self deprecating joke that unfortunately was tasteless!
He apologised. That’s all that there should be about it. 🤷🏿♂️
Stupid comment & stupid mistake ... but cancel him for that it is what got Trump elected. The silent majority doesn't find this necessarily. Jon has had an amazing career and his way of taking responsibility for his comment is more important as an example than punishing him.
Domestic issues are not relevant for world wide happenings. Your comparisson doesn`t work.
Thanks Christian, I totally agree with your comments.
I can't help but look at Krejcikova's forehead every time now... damn it Jon
that’s another aspect of it too! more ppl will now pay attention to krejcikova’s forehead which will undoubtedly make any insecurity worse
Me too... And that's right. Completely and totally inexcusable.
Tbh Krejcikova’s and Zheng’s forehead are very normal. Most female tennis players pull their hair back when they’re playing so it makes their forehead just a little bit more prominent than usual. Commenting on any aspect of a female players appearance that does not have any connection to their game is extremely unprofessional. Personally I think TC should set an example and just fire him permanently.
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At least JW apologized. Nick Kyrios continuously makes appalling and offensive remarks to much fanfare from his coterie of clowns on social media yet still manages to impress HR at ESPN.
100% I don’t particularly like John Wertheim and he deserves at least a temporary suspension but people allow Nick Kyrgios to get away with way worse just because he says shit like that all the time
Kyrgios made one tweet. Apart from that he's warm and supportive according to the people he works with on air. All the time is simply untrue
I agree! Tennis Channel should call you to come on board! I would watch immediately!
This is why I respect you as a tennis youtuber. You tackle HARD topics. While Gill Gross and The Slice have said NOTHING. Nassssssttttty work.
lol both are Jewish and they never betray each other 😂
Gill Gross generally takes quite a while to comment on issues (it was the same with the Sinner doping saga), so I would just wait and see if he puts up a video before commenting this.
At the end of the day, Jon should've watched what he said. If you take chances like that, you stand to get 'served' a life sentence. You never know who's listening and/or watching.
It’s so rude! Suspension is warranted.
Rude? People are rude all the time . IDK , but a better word would be demeaning or nasty .
This man has form and I'm so glad he's been exposed - go back and find his comments when Black former tennis player, James Blake was assaulted by the police and wrongly arrested; something btw for which the police apologised profusely.
It's a measure of the man and so ironic that given his own, let's say politely, less than attractive facial features, he would have the audacity to criticise anyone's looks. But of of course that's precisely how sexism and misogyny work; even the ugliest men will feel they have the right to ridicule and undermine a woman's appearance.
Glad he's been held accountable. It's nothing to do with cancel culture, it's about man in a position of power feeling he had the right to undermine and humiliate a woman while she was doing her job.
He got used to the air up there, above common people as myself and the rest of us.
@@ricardogordon2968 nail on the head!
👏💞💯 ALL Truth!
She’s a millionaire so I think she has plenty more power than Jon
Christian, take his spot on the tennis channel… c’mon bro! 5:17
At the risk of being inappropriate with this comment, I wish I had teeth as good as you brother. They are super, super good! Thanks for all the commentary. I watch your channel all the time. Excellent work. 👊
Why did Wertheim only applogise to Krejikova and not Zheng? He made references to both of them
I've noticed that too! 🧐🤔
Well, I think he specifically referred to Krejkova
People are too sensitive, she should have laughed it off. We need to cancel,the cancel culture and let people make jokes, he should not be off work.
In her statement at the point she said 'disappointed' I get it. Here in the Uk John Inverdale said much worse about Marion Bartoli (her weight and looks) he apologised thereafter nothing happened regarding punishment
we’re in different times 🤷🏾♂️ i think Inverdale would’ve gotten suspended if he made such comments today
@ChristiansCourt in the uk, you're deemed to be a 'snowflake or too woke and can't take a joke.' That being said, it often depends on who is being joked about.
True, I think he would have been suspended if he said that today. I remember when he said that, and it was really bad, insensitive and misogynistic. Jackass.
Thanks for this commentary Christian. I totally agree with you and support your opinion. When he made the comment, I laughed cause she does have a big forehead, but I don’t think it was sexist. TTC made the right decision to avoid a backlash from subscribers. I for one, will continue to support your channel unlike some folks here. You had an opinion and as a TH-camr, you gave it. No need to hate someone cause you disagree with them. Great work as always. 😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you for doing this. I was wondering who was going to comment. Andy Roddick Served has yet to! But not you!
Andy roddick has done a full session on this
@ did he? I must’ve missed it. Can you link it? Tia!
The clip from the middle of this video with John's apology is from Served...
@@32sultan gotcha gotcha you’re right. I was mostly listening to Christians show and when I heard Twitter account I didn’t know it was a a full session. (Sorry, don’t have Twitter!) I was looking for the full broadcast on YT.
It was blown. Out of proportion to me
Yeah after hearing what he said, a suspension is warranted! However I don't think it was sexist, it was just wrong, no matter who the person is.
He would’ve never made that comment about a man- men don’t comment on other men’s appearances in a negative way they would only do that to women so in a round about way it very much so is sexist!
@@zerekanthony2203 give me a break, they do all the time
Men make plenty of negative comments about other fellas.
Someone commented Jon W. attended Yale University.
Now, he has attained the status called EDUCATED DERELICT.
He’s probably been saying derogatory things at other times as well. This time he got caught.👍🏽
They didn't suspend the twirp Tracy Austin when she was mimicking a Romanian coach talking to his female player. The studio came back early, they were still talking and the twirp was " pretending" she was speaking in Romanian.
A bit disappointed in your take honestly, especially talking about how we've become too sensitive! No one wants these comments made about them, it's mean and it doesn't come down to sensitivity, it comes down to professionalism and just time and place for comments like that.... I know people will always say them, but with a microphone on while you're about to be on live TV is one of the silliest places ever...
I think your comparison to Medvedev is completely understandable, but he's not a woman, and that's where you lost me. You said 15 years ago that what commentators said about women were horrific and most of our players today were watching said comments be made growing up!
The suspension is very transparent, especially with the NK comparison. Though he is a player and like you said, TC wants to keep the players happy over everything.
So is it fine to offend men? I thought women always wanted equality. Women can be a lot more catty than men
Speaking from experience, comments on a woman's appearance are a definite no-go. He’s a grown man, and I’m sure someone has given him a warned him before-probably more than once. But here we are, and it’s out in the open. In the media, especially, there’s just no room for careless comments; it’s just too big a platform. I’m sure he regrets it, and while Tennis Channel may have come down a bit hard, they likely felt they had to take a stance. Christian will blow up soon in the tennis world and probably become a top commentator someday. Keep grinding; I’m rooting for him!
I knew jon from gill gross's podcast and i cannot believe that this is actually happening lol
please you dont need to repeat the comment men been doing this forever remember the crap the williams sisters this guy should be fired you need to stand up to this jerk
He did act like a jackass - but apologized. She's a great player, he's a great journalist - I like them both. Moving on.
Tennis Channel is his side gig not his main Gig so who cares and let’s be honest he didn’t lie… ps ESPN is hiring and pays a lot more.
Hey, Christian!(fellow predictor of the geat RG run for Paolini here)
Is there any way I could reach out to you privately(tried it on twitter, but your dm's are closed), regarding a possible fun collab idea? Would explain it more in detail in private, so I would really appreciate your response
I feel bad for Krejcikova🙁now so many people not knowing tennis will see her for her forehead😢
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I mean, Jon intended on saying that and he got caught. He owned up to it and made a sincere apology. The problem is not the intend to harm, it is the acceptance of the culture to poke fun at others expense. It’s unfortunate because there are many other seriously bad actors in Tennis Channel and Tennis TV, but the acceptance of these jokes on a hot mic or not toward athletes that are just there to perform is a culture issue. And in our society, we have accepted too much, people’s feelings have been hurt too long, cancel culture was inevitable and cancel culture happens on all sides of the isle because society is in it’s grievance and revenge era. This is why we blame cancel culture, and it’s really the product of grievance in our society. And people tune out calls of cancel culture so it falls on deaf ears
That is a very decent apology 👏👏 Yes Jon made a mistake, he owned it and sincerely spoke about it, can we not demonize him? The penalty was too harsh, sorry !
i agree 100 percent with what you said ! i don’t think if was intentional , but if was good for a suspension. There are people on twitter who don’t like him, as you mentioned are using this to go overboard. These people are trying to ruin his career . it was overblown, he apologized and he shouldn’t be ostrized by the tennis community or lose his livelihood
A lot of tennis player ls git big foreheads 😅 why do you think they where caps indoors like Iga Swiatek
That was a great and important comment on cancel culture and sexism Christian, very interesting and well-rounded.
I’m willing to give Jon the benefit of the doubt, based on his explanation. And that he was more making fun of himself and not taking a jab at Babs. Unfortunately these days, most people assume the worst and do a dog pile on social media. I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Hope to see Jon back on TC I’m 2025.
The smallest storm in the smallest teacup
Just give Jon a lil timeout and then bring him back…
I think the problem goes beyond tennis. It is constant that female athletes get comments on physical appearance on top of their career achievements. It’s though to compare to how a male would react because they haven’t had a history of this. I don’t know if it’s fair or not, but I think the discussion should be on why is this still happening… female athletes don’t start from cero carrying this judgement, there’s a history of it and this should be addressed.
Male athletes get comments about their appearance all the time.
Best comment out there! 👏
Nobody is interested in how smelly men look! We are not good looking in general
And sadly...T2 is predominantly all ATP matches. We have to wait until Tuesdays to even see Barbora or any other woman professional athlete play tennis. I hope this exposes more and changes are made!!!
Worry about a forehead comment not even intended for anyone but the other person, but play bloodmoney tournament in the human rights abusing Saudi Arabia. No wonder the world is a dystopia.
Great comment, they all caved for the dollar.
This is how these people actually feel. I remember when he began in tennis. Looked forward to his TENNIS views. It seems they get very smug with their access to "THE LIFE".
I never thought Barbora would be so easily offended
Completely blown out of proportion. We’re living in a groupthink era.
Exactly right, Kygrios has said all kinds of dumb shit and he’s commentating on matches like he’s some kind of saint!
EVERYONE HAS TO STOP TALKING ABOUT WOMENS BODY. JUST STOP!
That is ridiculous people like to talk about people it is part of life.
Good that he was put in his place. The hate athletes receive from the public only gets encouraged by disrespectful comments in the media. There are countless disrespectful commentators outside english speaking tennis world.
2 years ago he was doing a witch-hunt asking Novak's sponsors to abandon him when he was getting deported where was his compassion then ?? .. karma is a bitch fast forward 2 years later now he got kicked out from tennis channel .. God watches everything what goes around comes around..
Don't crucify the guy apologize and come back in few weeks ! Everybody wants to jump on someone ! Apologize thats it!
Yes many people want to ban humor.
I feel so sorry for Jon. This is totally ridiculous. So overblown.
Funny how we have a president that can say any jackass shit and it’s business as usual, but one goofy comment by a commentator and we have people losing their shit! It’s a dumb comment he made, but people can have a sense of humor and laugh it off instead of constantly getting butt-hurt and offended! He was even making fun of himself in the process! People need to get the fuck over it!
Christian, you won my respect. Forgiveness can make this world a better place.
"Cancel culture" isn't the same as being held accountable for your actions in the public space. In this situation, Jon did something inappropriate and unprofessional in public and is just being held accountable. However, after apologising and being taken off air for a period of time, he should be given the opportunity to come back and move on.
I also think people are using the term "sexism" (perhaps incorrectly) to highlight that there was likely a gender dynamic at play in him making the comment. I would bet my money that he made that comment in order to get some reaction from the men around him, and would have thought twice about saying it out loud if there was a woman present.
Tracy Austin was sitting at the desk, she didn't even look up at him when he said it. It might be because this type of "behind the scenes" banter goes on a LOT! We, the public are just hearing about it. The girl (Barbora) was hurt by it and JW should really look at himself and within himself as he really does not have room to come for another person's appearance! At all! 😒
Several people on here want kyrgios cancelled but not Jon. Must be hair colour
I think the overreaction was taking him off the air indefinitely (that was not warranted) but people still ig have a right to stay angry? Plus also he is heavily critical of players and what they say so the hypocrisy aspect may have contributed to the outrage
Always check to see if your mic is on. Justin Gimblestob was fired by TC for arguing at his house. You have to be careful. He might be gone from TC for good.
You can't compare Medvedev to Krejcikova. For men it's not uncommon to have a recessed hairline, even at a younger age, for women absolutely not.
Does that make it fine to say to a man but not a woman?
I became more familiar with Jon Wertheim via the Andy Roddick podcast and personally he comes across as snarky to me. I can see him being a menace behind the scenes lol
Snarky can be entertaining, we watch and listen to be entertained.
so what u think they shoulda done if no suspension? apology & move on?
We all see the forehead. Why punish some one ?
I had no idea he was suspended.
Oh, well. I didn't miss him. 🙃
Well said my man . Especially on the Medvedev comparison . You were spot on 👌👍
I agree with you . People are just soft now
Keep going my brother 🙏 💪
This wasn’t even all that serious in my opinion lol they actin like he said she was ugly or something all he did was say something about her forehead in a lite joking way but let’s all be honest here she does have a big forehead and that’s the truth plus she is a grown woman not a little girl comments like this shouldn’t even bother her or other people, sheesh we live in such a super sensitive society smh
people are also being very childish. Someone posted a picture of his daughter and called her ugly .. that’s so low , leave his family alone
Jon Wertheim is legend but still needs to show respect. But he was always respectful towards the Williams sisters throughout their careers.
Kyrgios needs to be cancelled
He is entertaining, no one likes jokes anymore?
There are lots of women commentators who say appalling stuff about male players all the time and everyone just giggles. Guys are expected to take it
@@sportslover2356 People need to be able to take a joke .
@@info781 people or men? Women can take a joke as well?
Iga Swaitek has similar forehead.. Iga keeps her baseball hat 🧢 on, whenever she playing..that’s neither here nor there. Just imagine what these white commentators are saying about the black players on tour behind the scenes.
It's sexist because, sadly, women have been made to feel like their appearance is as important, if not more important than their talent and achievement. Also, it's not quite the same to comment on a man's hairline as it is to do so on a woman's. It may have been an overreaction to fire, though. I suppose if Krejikova publicly accepts his apology and forgives him, then i say, let's move on.
Much ado about nothing.
I think...it's very sad situation. Remember a few months ago you called out Kyrgios as misogynistic, sexist, disgusting, must never be seen on our screens again? He was a novice presenter, had that photo barraged at him for three weeks and finally cracked under the stress of horrible social media comments about his family as well as himself. He tweeted, not expecting the tweet to be retweeted around the world. Jon, who should have mentoring him, instead crucified him. He wrote disgusting articles about Kyrgios, for three weeks, demanding his cancellation which led to people like you making long videos without looking behind the tweet (you misquoted it here already). Jon is a full time commentator and I sure hope he comes back soon. Kyrgios will probably never come back. He is too honest, Too off the cuff, uses the sort of language such as 'trash-talking' that is acceptable in other sports that he loves. He was good at the way he worked and you destroyed him for a single tweet which was not intended to be heard any more than Jon's single remark. Go figure.
She KNOWS what she looks like and I've said already, so does GOD! We don't get to choose what we look like. It was insensitive; tacky and quite disrespectful! He knew what he was saying especially when he added "8 head" at the end. I've heard him slip and call Coco, "Coco Nut"; maybe that's a cute, little nickname he has for her but I doubt it. He was remorseful and apologetic because he got caught! Professionalism sticks to the PROFESSION! He was out of line.
Apologize and move on. No suspension
None of us are perfect. We all say dumb shit. People on social media pretending they haven’t said worse is laughable. I said terrible shit. That was meant to be private. Why is TC not off-air when doing testing? Everybody is trying to capitalize on being authentic. Give me a break. I have a big nose, and someone saying that doesn't change that. What a joke!
Is it private if he's at work?
If the producer had not made a mistake while testing, it would not have seen the light of day, and we wouldn’t be having this lengthy discussion.
@@MarvinFord well, based on your logic, if I committed a crime but didn't get caught. So I am fine then, right?
@@mikef6399 Have you examined society lately? Humans are sheep, just chasing the carrot stick. This is selective outrage. We should be outraged about many other things, but we chose this one. How funny! Is this the hill that we are going to die on? What Jon said was awful, but I have heard worse. He mentioned Zheng in his diatribe, but no one is outraged about that.
@@mikef6399Have you examined society lately? None of us (the collective) has a moral compass.
So what the Hell does eighthead mean??
I'll be honest, I was more offended about Jon Wertheim talking about the meritocracy of billionaires during the US Open... I'm not shocked that he would attack Krejcikova's physical appearance, because he is an Ivy League educated neoliberal snob that is a bit out of touch similar to the likes of Bill Maher.
Idk, this guy always looked suspicious to me.
Ur take is so distorted and I’m so glad all the comments reflect how much they disagree with you. Proof that just because u have a TH-cam channel doesn’t mean u have the right take on things. There’s a history of sportscasters degrading women and talking about their looks- what’s that got to do with her tennis? Not a damn thing!
Sad u look back on the days when they called black people monkeys as the good ol’ days! Just because people were despicable and said sexist things back in the day and we’re allowed to without consequence doesn’t mean that we’re soft now or too sensitive it means we’re more educated and when u know better ur supposed to do better!
Wholeheartedly strongly disagree with everything u said!
I think he is right.
Get over yourself
We all make jokes about other people's looks. Ehat are we coming to? A man losing his job over a silly joke? Esp when the stuff wasn't meant to be on air
It’s unfortunate! He human okay! He respected her, he just noticed her forehead. He accountable! No one is perfect, it was not his best moment! Relax - time to move on to something better John!
It isn't about being perfect. It's about being professional.
Like you’re commentary but Wertheim is more qualified than you are
So is kyrgios...
It’s so rich that we’re having this pile-on discussion after the US election results. We all need to stop talking for once and reflect because none of us (the collective) have any moral compass.