Jeff's ult can be countered by: Opening punishers turret Building a groot wall Ziping the floor as moon knight Rolling as star lord Mining the ground as peni Vanishing as Cloak Ulting as Luna Bro whines about Jeff's 1 good move instead of learning the game mechanics.
I like that this is memes, and he asks about do everyone really loves Jeff abilities and his kit from a professional, sweaty perspective. People just love him because he is cute, and in quick play, no one normally cares about the meta, and if you do go play comp.
To think you can do that with Scarlet yet people still find new ways to sell the ENTIRE game with her, also for any iron man actually struggling with iron fist. Use your chest beam and melt that piece of septic trash
Yeah I think in comp Jeff is easily one of the worst picks because people actually care about him In quick play if Jeff swallows your entire team so what it's not gonna do much In comp though people do care And I don't think I've seen any Jeff in comp kill me with their ultimate (and I've only gotten killed by a Jeff like once) He's honestly the worst support in the game All he really does well is healbot But Luna can do the same for way more utility
@@ireallydontknow278 Exactly! Luna, Mantis, Even Dagger can usually give more heals overall while also being able to dish out good damage & get kills. His ult is also VERY Map dependent, many maps just don't have cliffs or ledges so the best Jeff can do is bring enemy players Far away. I'll still keep using him, but it's a shame he's the worst support in ranked. Also, if enemy team has Peni Parker, her mines can basically insta kill Jeff's when they pop back up after using their ult, so sad 😭
I practice with storm here and there. With a good group upped team her ult gen speed is insane. Ive ulted 3xs in one fight before. (1 picks who then trickle back just before someone else is eliminated.)
@@Bulbmin1Iron fist can parry almost every ult, does a ton of damage, can heal himself, a button he can press to boost his damage even more, very good mobility, and a bunch of jumps though I don't know exactly how many. Not to mention, his fist has a magnetic pull that allows him to pull himself into flying enemies allowing him to spread his wings and also take flight just to take out the flying enemies. What is bad about that. I know some characters aren't as good as people say they are, but people hate playing against those characters for a reason.
I carried myself through platinum and i’m going through diamond on Storm rn. Gotta stay low with her, stick to your supports, and protect them against anyone who dives them. Unfortunately, she doesn’t have much range at all so she needs a hitscan like Hela if she’s versing an enemy Hela or Hawkeye but her damage buff alone can be crazy. You just stick on damage unless you really need the speed to escape and when people push, press your boost, and they will MELT.
Because in lower ranks (sorry we aren’t all pros) Punisher is just a constant stream of bullets so you walk around a corner and lose half your health or some shit
Not being able to deal with an Ironfist sounds like a skill issue. Mantsi has sleep, Luna has snowball, both should always be close to their tanks, rocket can escape anything, Lokis every skill lets him escape him. In high elos he is just free kill since everyone just turns and kills him if he engages and his damage is too low to kill anything with a healer pocketing the target.
jeffs ult is very easy to counter; it need ledges or other teammate to become deadly; you need to get away from the fight as the support, crippling your teammates; you need to jump off to secure flying/swinging heroes kills; people hate it, so they will counter ult/prioritize you when you swallow their teammates.
Yeah it's kinda similar to Loki As Loki if you don't copy a support your team will be without heals or any of Loki's other abilities for the ultimates duration Same goes for Jeff He goes to a ledge and by the time he gets back the fight could already be over Especially if the fight was mid way trough (if it's at the very beginning of the fight then it would probably win)
@@ireallydontknow278 for loki you can use all his abilities before copying and they will stay, not that usefull but better than leaving the team completely without heals
Storm main here, she IS good, so long as you stick with your team and DON'T PLAY HER LIKE IRON MAN. The amount of random Storms I see just flying high constantly as a beacon that screams "HEY, SHOOT ME!" is concerning, she gains value from damage boosting and team-shotting, as well as providing speed boost to back up or push in for easier rotations as a group; The only time you should fly high with her in my experience is on speed boost to deliberately distract Hela, Hawkeye, or other oppressive long ranged heroes so your team can move while they look at you instead and miss as you dodge and weave. Her ult is good if uncontested but I also find value in using it to bait out Luna or Mantis ult so my other teammates can use their ults uninhibited.
danm didn't know i was cracked up like that considering i've been got by jeff once only because my fly on strange was on CD Also i jsut got here after watching the tim vs ninja clip yea i bet that was a fun game x D
Hella pisses me of. At least you can flank Hawkeye as soon as you get close to him there is little he can do. Don’t even get me started with that team up with Thor and Loki that shit is ridiculous.
@@LoyalNightmare420 then it is for everyone in ranked. She is always banned in diamond and above ranked, why do you think that is? So everyone must have a skill issue then right it can’t be because the character is ridiculous
Real quick Jay, the Scarlet Witch hitbox is slightly misleading. All characters (due to 3rd person) hitbox extend A LOT further to the right than left. Still very bad but it wouldn’t go as far on the other side
Iron fist is so bad And I'm tired of pretending he's good He's really not You want to know the ultimate super secret strategy to defeat iron fist? Here it is Just don't Feed His Damn Block And use any movement you may have to disengage from him Sure he has double jumps and such But his super fast punches inky last for 2 seconds after blocking And his kick has a massive 12 second cool down If you can't kill him in 12 seconds then it's honestly just a skill issue
Jeff is the easiest character to kill when he isn’t underground. All he does is ult and die. When he’s not ultimg he’s free charge or a kill. Gosh I hate Jeff so much
I only hate Jeff because people think that just because he's cute means he's the best character in the game I mean c'mon now he's the easiest character to kill even with his reduced headshot damage his entire body is damn near a headshot Especially if Jeff is facing directly towards you And he just doesn't do anything Every other support can out DPS and out heal Jeff And each support had way more utility Cloak and dagger has the massive bubble Loki has his crystals Mantis and Luna both have stuns Rocket has his revive beacon Adam has massive team revive What does Jeff have? A bubble that speed's teammates up Sure it's great but only for 2 circumstances Getting in and out of the fight While every other support helps them or their team stay in the fight for longer Jeff only helps his team when getting back to point quickly Or escaping near death
..i swear this dude has the mentality of a bronze player. Actually thinking iron fish is op and hates Jeff with a fiery passion, the character that's okay at a few things but not great at anything
I hate the people that say "cod releases the same game every year" if they change it people hate the game they did it for cold war and vanguard and they are the worst performing games they have
"Jeff needs a bigger hitbox when he's underground"
Enemy Players when im swimming away...
13:17
Jeff's ult can be countered by:
Opening punishers turret
Building a groot wall
Ziping the floor as moon knight
Rolling as star lord
Mining the ground as peni
Vanishing as Cloak
Ulting as Luna
Bro whines about Jeff's 1 good move instead of learning the game mechanics.
frogger the nicest iron fist player casually watching himself get flamed every chance jay3 gets
I like that this is memes, and he asks about do everyone really loves Jeff abilities and his kit from a professional, sweaty perspective. People just love him because he is cute, and in quick play, no one normally cares about the meta, and if you do go play comp.
That girl crying over jeff had an insane amount of blush applied
Thats marlea i think, she indeed uses a lot of makeup, live rave style makeup
Ok
Why do you feel the need to point that out?
So do I, and glitter🤷🏼♀️ it’s fun
I thought the makeup was her tears 😅
I thought she got punched in the face and had two healing black eyes. Gotta slow down on the “cute” make up
As someone who plays Storm,I laugh at how few of us there are. 😂
To think you can do that with Scarlet yet people still find new ways to sell the ENTIRE game with her, also for any iron man actually struggling with iron fist. Use your chest beam and melt that piece of septic trash
People may be surprised but Jeff In Solo Queue ranked is soo underpowered, his ult can be blocked or avoided fairly easily 😭
Yeah I think in comp Jeff is easily one of the worst picks because people actually care about him
In quick play if Jeff swallows your entire team so what it's not gonna do much
In comp though people do care
And I don't think I've seen any Jeff in comp kill me with their ultimate (and I've only gotten killed by a Jeff like once)
He's honestly the worst support in the game
All he really does well is healbot
But Luna can do the same for way more utility
@@ireallydontknow278 Exactly! Luna, Mantis, Even Dagger can usually give more heals overall while also being able to dish out good damage & get kills.
His ult is also VERY Map dependent, many maps just don't have cliffs or ledges so the best Jeff can do is bring enemy players Far away.
I'll still keep using him, but it's a shame he's the worst support in ranked.
Also, if enemy team has Peni Parker, her mines can basically insta kill Jeff's when they pop back up after using their ult, so sad 😭
@@xeta6-MobileLuna snow, mantis, and dagger ults ruins everything
The reason iron fist can do all that is because he’s comic book accurate iron fist
If you main iron fist you need help
Meanwhile samito:
I practice with storm here and there. With a good group upped team her ult gen speed is insane. Ive ulted 3xs in one fight before. (1 picks who then trickle back just before someone else is eliminated.)
Hating Jeff is just admitting you are bad without committing to getting better.
And iron fist he sucks so much against a team basic game knowledge that knows how to protect their healers
@@Bulbmin1Iron fist can parry almost every ult, does a ton of damage, can heal himself, a button he can press to boost his damage even more, very good mobility, and a bunch of jumps though I don't know exactly how many. Not to mention, his fist has a magnetic pull that allows him to pull himself into flying enemies allowing him to spread his wings and also take flight just to take out the flying enemies. What is bad about that. I know some characters aren't as good as people say they are, but people hate playing against those characters for a reason.
Iron fist when the team just turns around and shoots him all at once as soon as he uses parry 💀@@Skilledm
@@pixelspixelation6418 The team dying to the other team shooting them all at once because they were all too focused on Iron fist 💀
@@Skilledm you trying to tell me a team cant do 300 damage before they all die? Yeah right
I carried myself through platinum and i’m going through diamond on Storm rn. Gotta stay low with her, stick to your supports, and protect them against anyone who dives them. Unfortunately, she doesn’t have much range at all so she needs a hitscan like Hela if she’s versing an enemy Hela or Hawkeye but her damage buff alone can be crazy. You just stick on damage unless you really need the speed to escape and when people push, press your boost, and they will MELT.
I imagine Jay faking a smile, getting his cellphone, taking a selfie a uploading it jst to make this thumb
Ddamn, bro, chill on the fake laugh lol
19:45 can we get the tank POV for that? Rivals and OW still fighting over the 12 tanks mains out here
As a cloak and dagger main I don’t see the issue with Jeff lit lol, I can just dodge is super easily with my ONE ability
Jay not realizing he is exactly the DPS player the memes are making fun of is hilarious.
The first hour of experience with Jeff's are always the cute ones.
Jay3 hates every charcter except the hitscans😂😂😂 mans got too used to ow hitscans being no. 1 constantly. This aint ow jay
Because in lower ranks (sorry we aren’t all pros) Punisher is just a constant stream of bullets so you walk around a corner and lose half your health or some shit
Bro is there any character Jay doesnt hate at this point?!
I hate that Iron Fist has an air combo but Spider-Man doesn’t?!?!
Not being able to deal with an Ironfist sounds like a skill issue. Mantsi has sleep, Luna has snowball, both should always be close to their tanks, rocket can escape anything, Lokis every skill lets him escape him. In high elos he is just free kill since everyone just turns and kills him if he engages and his damage is too low to kill anything with a healer pocketing the target.
problem: You assume your teammates have their monitors on
C&D can turn on him and ez 1v1 if you bait block too
Jay saying Storm is bad makes me mad, I consistently get over 30k damage with over 50 kills every comp game
Hela is banned first because Hela is a substantially larger threat than Hawkeye
jeffs ult is very easy to counter; it need ledges or other teammate to become deadly; you need to get away from the fight as the support, crippling your teammates; you need to jump off to secure flying/swinging heroes kills; people hate it, so they will counter ult/prioritize you when you swallow their teammates.
Yeah it's kinda similar to Loki
As Loki if you don't copy a support your team will be without heals or any of Loki's other abilities for the ultimates duration
Same goes for Jeff
He goes to a ledge and by the time he gets back the fight could already be over
Especially if the fight was mid way trough (if it's at the very beginning of the fight then it would probably win)
@@ireallydontknow278 for loki you can use all his abilities before copying and they will stay, not that usefull but better than leaving the team completely without heals
I felt when the groot main said i am groot
Storm isnt a problem till you are playing a melee vanguard and your dps cant aim worth a shit so she never gets touched
How can you be good elo and be that delusional in this game?
Frenzied flame theme for ironfist is perfect
Damn bro 200 hours, honestly im jealous i could pull those numbers back in the day
Storm main here, she IS good, so long as you stick with your team and DON'T PLAY HER LIKE IRON MAN. The amount of random Storms I see just flying high constantly as a beacon that screams "HEY, SHOOT ME!" is concerning, she gains value from damage boosting and team-shotting, as well as providing speed boost to back up or push in for easier rotations as a group; The only time you should fly high with her in my experience is on speed boost to deliberately distract Hela, Hawkeye, or other oppressive long ranged heroes so your team can move while they look at you instead and miss as you dodge and weave. Her ult is good if uncontested but I also find value in using it to bait out Luna or Mantis ult so my other teammates can use their ults uninhibited.
As a Rocket main I can agree- "yall are the problems and I'm sick of bringing you back"!
With jay3s opinions you'd think he'd be gold
danm didn't know i was cracked up like that considering i've been got by jeff once only because my fly on strange was on CD
Also i jsut got here after watching the tim vs ninja clip yea i bet that was a fun game x D
1:47 there are two types of gamers
Hela in my opinion is way broken then hawky
Hella pisses me of. At least you can flank Hawkeye as soon as you get close to him there is little he can do. Don’t even get me started with that team up with Thor and Loki that shit is ridiculous.
@@jasiah1154 skill issue
@@LoyalNightmare420 then it is for everyone in ranked. She is always banned in diamond and above ranked, why do you think that is? So everyone must have a skill issue then right it can’t be because the character is ridiculous
Bruh ninja got boxed how embarrassing for him
Squirrel girl side step and its gone 😂
Bro got Fullboxed 15:49
Just went 6 in 9😼
People ban hela first because they expect the enemy to ban hawk
Real quick Jay, the Scarlet Witch hitbox is slightly misleading. All characters (due to 3rd person) hitbox extend A LOT further to the right than left. Still very bad but it wouldn’t go as far on the other side
I agree iron fist is actually insane like he’s a what 4-5 star but he doesn’t feel like it lol
If you’re not good with him and you are against good players you will see how hard he is 😭
@MRm7mdHD1 ya your right I've come across some Insane players on him and I kinda struggle with him so I get it
Iron fist is so bad
And I'm tired of pretending he's good
He's really not
You want to know the ultimate super secret strategy to defeat iron fist?
Here it is
Just don't Feed His Damn Block
And use any movement you may have to disengage from him
Sure he has double jumps and such
But his super fast punches inky last for 2 seconds after blocking
And his kick has a massive 12 second cool down
If you can't kill him in 12 seconds then it's honestly just a skill issue
@ thanks for the advice and I agree with you
Jeff? Smash, next question.
good jeff is nice
Nah i ask someone to switch to strategist and i go dps after we lost the 1st round and we won
Hawkeye is more of a problem than luna
I main her and always win with her . but that's me MVP more than most other characters I play
get good my brother, get good
The chinese game company made a chinese super hero OP, you don't say...
13:44 want to use her other ability?
bro that was prepucio ngl
yo so who is the guy at 4:00 i wanna find that video😂
Jeff hate is understandable but just over the top at times. Iron Fist naw, tear him a new one
Why does he hate iron fist so much the character is so bad
Jeff is the easiest character to kill when he isn’t underground. All he does is ult and die. When he’s not ultimg he’s free charge or a kill. Gosh I hate Jeff so much
I only hate Jeff because people think that just because he's cute means he's the best character in the game
I mean c'mon now he's the easiest character to kill even with his reduced headshot damage his entire body is damn near a headshot
Especially if Jeff is facing directly towards you
And he just doesn't do anything
Every other support can out DPS and out heal Jeff
And each support had way more utility
Cloak and dagger has the massive bubble
Loki has his crystals
Mantis and Luna both have stuns
Rocket has his revive beacon
Adam has massive team revive
What does Jeff have? A bubble that speed's teammates up
Sure it's great but only for 2 circumstances
Getting in and out of the fight
While every other support helps them or their team stay in the fight for longer
Jeff only helps his team when getting back to point quickly
Or escaping near death
Jay how do you hate Iron Fist so much? I almost never see him in GM
He’s annoying as hell
It's nice to hear hate from a TH-cam but it's not about the same characters all the time except Hella and hawkeye
Im hearing a lot of crying and yelling nerf when you should be yelling buff!
2 mins ago? Lets goo
Rank one Namor main!
..i swear this dude has the mentality of a bronze player. Actually thinking iron fish is op and hates Jeff with a fiery passion, the character that's okay at a few things but not great at anything
Jay3 I main Iron Fist not because I hate everyone but because I fucking hate Jeff, I hope you understand 😮💨
Jay just hates every character lol
helas ult is op they should nerf it so if some kills her in her ult she dies
I dont like jeff but i dont hate him. He's just there
5:10 Boomer3, Unc3, Prohibition3
Iron fist is actually really bad lmfao
I have friend who main storm..... He guess 30 average mvp every game so i think it's a skill issue
dont need any help it's the best and im in top 100
Bro iron fist ain't broken its Hawkeye and Hela who are broken right now
Hella is a way bigger then Hawkeye
I am Groot
I go 48 and 7
500th like!
ninja hate is so forced
Using the term unalive instead of kill or death is just lame.
Damn those platform that forces this.
If you're missing your auto aim on Scarlet just stop playing games.
Iron fist isn’t even fun to play imo
it just makes me sad storm is a top 3 favorite superhero to me and i see her but i just can’t pick her because she is awful
jay got sht on by fist to many times and ngl thats a skill issue jay get better
Its pronounced nay-more not na-more
P0intless memes are N0T funny en0ugh 😐
I hate the people that say "cod releases the same game every year" if they change it people hate the game they did it for cold war and vanguard and they are the worst performing games they have
Can we have an actual funny marvel rivals memes this clips are just cringe lol