Lex Fridman plays chess with Demis Hassabis
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- This is a chess game I played with Demis Hassabis after a recent podcast we did together. Check out the full episode here: • Demis Hassabis: DeepMi...
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This is a chess game I played with Demis Hassabis after a recent podcast we did together. Check out the full episode here: th-cam.com/video/Gfr50f6ZBvo/w-d-xo.html
What is your rating, Lex?
Interview with Magnus Carlsen (#1 chess player) would be very interesting
Chess? I lost my grandparents due to this game. The secret is dont win. If you win they assume your better, but its just a game with clear rules. Folks who follow rules may be great at games, but they loose at life.
Fascinating conversation. I loved the PC game Black and White. It was formative to my development.
Along with the above comment, Demis was also Pinned by Lex Friedman.
You can lose on purpose to your guests all you want Lex, we know you're a robot 😁
You're an excellent subscriber of this robot - he still has ways to go, to fool you in this Touring Test ;)
Agad!
Wow Agad WTF. For those that don't know, Agad is arguably the most important chess individual on the internet / youtube or the most famous non-grandmaster ever haha. Absolute legend.
The man, the myth, the Legend Antonio "Agadmator" Radiç
LMAO
When a former champion tells you, "good move, I'm impressed", it means you are finished 🤣
Lmao
Just for the record, I don't know what Demis is a champion of, but he is 2200 FIDE Elo, which is definitely superior than 99.9% of mere mortals who just know the rules of chess, but he would get demolished by International Masters and Grandmasters (who have ratings from 2400 all the way to 2800).
he was just being polite. Lex didn't make any major obvious mistakes but his play was far from impressive even at club level
@@MoreCreativeThanSpielberg Still doesn't make him a chess champion.
@@insectpolitician7278 OP said former champion, which is accurate ;). Demis is a 5 time Pentamind champion.
Lex, playing chess with your guests should be a standard thing at this point. Make a separate video out of it, add it to the end of the podcast, or hell you can even overlay it onto the screen during the conversation. These videos are gold.
Concur 👍
I wanna see Malice play lol
Edit: in black and white suits
That would honestly be really cool.
Yes. Do this, Lex.
Agreed
Very entertaining segment!
Hi Kevin 👁 👋
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Hey
fun to watch! "is there any way out of this?" - "no, not really" 🤣😂
I was thinking Rd2 then Bd1, can't take, then Be2, he has to move rook and I think this could be drawn. Thoughts?
@@kennethhicks2113 pawn to f4
@@kennethhicks2113 Nope, still lost 😄
Demis had a huge positional AND material advantage here.
Lex fought very well though. I'm impressed that he even considered an exchange sac to salvage the position, much too late unfortunately.
You can tell that Mr Hassabis is a humble guy. Very kind.
You lost once, but you can lose two times….well said Demis
You can tell dude is mad competitive even though he seems really nice on the outside. That was also the feeling I got when I watched the AlphaGo documentary. Dude is a killer inside
LOL YES ... why is this fun to lose twice?
@@ste2158 I think it was just fun banter with lex. And i concur that to get good at chess you need to have somewhat of that killer instinct and desire to win.
Dennis is very smart, I discovered him when I watched the AlphaGo documentary. He was a professional chess player before
There is so much fun watching this. Thank you Lex and Demis!
00:21 For non-chess players (life myself who had to look it up) the white pieces are preferred because they make the first move.
The most chilled Video ever for me , a classical background music and that made my day
I went through a period where I played a ton of chess and it began to take over my mind. I even dreamed chess. I quit, and was relieved that real life was much easier and less stressful.
Fr dude. All night i used to have a visual of pieces moving on the board.
Just started a few weeks ago and the same thing happened to me haha. I got to the point where even dreams not about chess started featuring a board subtly in the background. Still enjoy the game but breaks are necessary.
I remember dreaming of chess, and thinking of all kinds of puzzles in my head when trying to fall asleep when I was a kid in middle and high school. I was a prodigy when I was a teen and was playing chess 5-6 hours a day during school days, and much more than that on weekends, and really wasn't paying attention in school or focusing on my studies at all, because all my focus was on improving chess. Chess actually gave me insomnia as well. I did get to a a very high level, but I don't believe that kind of obsession is a good thing. I have always been a perfectionist and very competitive, and it's something that can definitely be a blessing and a curse.
im just starting and already feeling it kinda starting to make crazy cause id be in a store shopping waiting in line thinking about different openings and how they variate lmao
Wonderful to watch the game. Gracious guest.
Somehow "like" just doesn't seem enough. Thanks as always Lex. (And thank you Demis.) What a fun watch! Can't wait to read the book.
Agadmator’s analysis and commentary is as iconic as the games he reviews, truly the Salman Khan of the chess education world
Thanks for the hint
i don't follow this, but has lex ever revealed how strong he is?
@@YSFmemories looking at the game, he's about 1200
The animation is just awesome... Well done Lex
this is like the fastest game of chess i have seen... i dont go out of my way to watch it tho and havent played in years.... loved this in high school
5 min each is the traditional blitz time. Nowadays some players play at even much faster paces online, even one minute per game, with the crazyness that you can expect.
The best players play great chess in 15 second games called Ultra Bullet. Or most commonly 1 minute games th-cam.com/video/ghiIyt_K8ws/w-d-xo.html
there's a lot faster
@@Diagnoc for OTB blitz I think it is more traditional to use some time increment (a few seconds per move on the top of the initial 5 minutes per player). for online chess I agree, 5 minutes is definitely the most popular format
This one was hugely enjoyable. Somehow the interplay of interviewer and interviewee meshed perfectly. Both of them came up with great ideas!
Love this chess segment!!!
Gotta love this guy. You can see how passionate he is about the game.
I love chess this was fun to watch... good chess etiquette from both players
Absolutely fascinating!
You played so solid Lex, stop being so humble all the time
He doesn’t seem to practice or know the ideas but he still plays like a 1600 at least.
Humility is the secret for getting all the girls.
@@liamweinberg4902 More like 1300, I would say. Still really impressive when you think that he doesn’t play often.
@@liamweinberg4902 He doesn't play like a 1600, but he did play a solid game. He plays like a 1000-1200, but you really need to see a lot more games of a person to determine how good they are at chess. He played much much better this game than previous games where his play seemed much under 1000. His consistency in chess is a real problem, and I think he's looked at games of stronger players, but he doesn't appear to understand a lot of the concepts behind his own moves.
@@elonif4125 Yeah, I would say between 1000-1300. He played a much much better game than previous chess games I have seen him play. He's a brilliant guy and i'm sure he has the potential to be a very very strong player
beautiful dedication on the book.
Very cool. Nicely done both of you.
4:25 You were on point Lex. There was a smart move that you missed. Right after he took the second pawn you had 1 …Bc6 forking his rook and the knight. It’s not exactly winning a piece yet, because white still has 2.Nc3 counter attacking your rook, but then 2 …Rc2 3. Rb3 Rc8 and you’re back in the game! Note whites knight is constrained and can’t be easily defended by the other rook because of back rank mate issues.
That's what I was thinking too. Then I checked with the engine: Lex's move was better - gives +3.3 (for white), while Bc6 gives +7.5. So... It's confirmed - Lex is a robot.
Had the same thought.
Hey lex at 4:33 you could have played Bc6! with a double attack on the rook and knight, after Nc5 you can take the rook on b7. I think Demis Hassabis noticed it too afterwards
I know i was yelling Bc6 loool. Checked with an engine and white actually has Nc3 which attacks black rook offering a trade of rooks. Black then shouldn't take whites rook because the position is not in his favour at all (especially with the bishop v knight endgame and white having a huge pawn majority), Thus blacks best move is to save his own rook by going Rc2, With best play white continues with a +2 advantage lol.
@@adriandurlej9266 Thats great but if Lex was wise enough to notice a follow up of Rc2 with an attack on the knight and the pawn this would have won back a pawn. Nc3 is great but Nc5 offers an opportunity for the e6 pawn
@@LarryRevell Nc5 loses the rook to the knight though since black would just take it with his bishop. Black has to play Nc3 after Bc6 to attack whites rook and retain his advantage, and if Rc2 to attack the knight, then white plays Rc7 with an attack on blacks bishop retaining the advantage.
I have never felt more relaxed and satisfied than I was when I watched this. Well done Lex
try meditation
Awesome video to share with us, thank You and greetings from Tallinn! :)
Gratitude to you gentlemen for being game changers by unconditionally following your passions and for having the courage and humility to be yourselves. Shout-out to Anna Rudolf for making me aware of the inspiring existence of Alpha Zero with her video on the game against Stockfish you mentioned. Will have to order the book, for it might be the prelude to how AI teaches humanity new thought patterns and how to play 'the long game' as opposed to the 'short term gains game'. ✨
Wonderful stuff!
I've been on the biggest chess obsession recently and to see Lex play made my freaking week
Do you mean weak? And if so why?
SO glad you played NB4 @ 2:19. Made me happy
Me too, i want to make a game with Demis, one of the greatest genius of all the time :)
“My time ran out”
“That means you lost once, but keep playing so you can lose twice”
Savage
Demis himself was a chess master since he was 11. Lex playing solid is very interesting to watch
The fourth - often forgotten - agent is pressing the clock after your move.
I was not surprised to learn Lex does chess. More people like this guy.
I must have played this exact same game with my father 50 times. It gets boring when I keep losing. He was such a brilliant man.
Just watched the video of you playing chess with RZA from 3 months ago, what a coincidence! Loved the podcast with Hassabis, really sparked interest in the topic of AI, gonna look into taking an elective on the topic. Be safe in ukraine Lex, hope you get to Zelensky.
Lex missed a winning move when Demis got greedy taking the second pawn, could've skewered the knight and rook, and when he went for a counter attack on his rook, sacrificed the rook to take a pawn attacking the other rook and still maintaining the initiative, getting a pawn back and opening a key file next to his king. he was winning!
Yes he had bc6, but either having an exchange for two pawns or a piece for three definitely won’t be winning, and the pawns might even pose a problem
Idk if it leads to better lines or not but personally I would have held onto my dark square bishop as taking the knight gives white the semi open file and reinforces their center when the pawn recaptures. Also I believe just on principle it's generally not good to lose the bishop pair for a knight unless you have some sort of tactic or strategy in mind.
Lex honestly played very well for the first half of the game!
Good game and good fun!.. When I work on my endgame, I find my middle is lacking, work on middle, need more openings... repeat ad infinium!
Ty for sharing.
I love this content
Should have finished!
The narration was really interesting. Just shows much better the pros are.
Awesome game! 🙂 You should play chess more often on your channel! I am sure a lot of people would love it!
At 4:35 black bishop could attack both rock and knight of white by moving to C6.
but knight to c3 defends it
@@emico__ No it doesn't!!
@@rsKayiira why not?
@@emico__ it doesn’t but he attacks the rook on a2 but then lex could attack the k on C3. He’s up the exchange with the fork and should be winning if he can stop the central pawns. Still impressive by lex not having any massive blunders up until that point.
@@pabis6817 Yeah he can attack the knight on c3 but only with 2 possible rook moves.
If he plays rook c2 i play rook b3
if he plays rook a3 i play rook c7
So we trade or nothing really happens, i don't see how that is game winning?
Such a wholesome video.
Such a nice guy
You know things getting serious when Lex brings a 45 liters bottle of water.
4:31 At first I thought Nxe4 is a mistake by Demis because of Bc6 by black attacking two pieces but it seems Nc3 saves the piece. Demis played Nxe4 very fast so I am not sure whether he saw Bc6 Nc3 Rc2 Rb3 sequence in advance or not.
Still, bishop for rook would've been a good trade. I reckon Demis was just being a bit cheeky though.
at 4:30 bishop to c6 was an amazing move for lex threatning both the knight and rook.
but then knight c3 counter attacks the rook on b2
I first remember reading about Hassabis in a PC gaming mag, in an article about Theme Park. I was disgusted to learn he was 17 when he was developing the game. I was a 27 yo Physics dropout at the time. I'd also had a ZX Spectrum as a teenager. Where did it all go wrong?! Raw intelligence mostly and application (probably less than 0.0001%). I'm happy to see he's a fundamentally decent guy who just happens to be very intelligent. Whereas I will never master Quantum Mechanics and will remain an average kind of dude who posts on social media now and again. C'est la vie.
Sad
The average kind of dude wouldn't even begin to try and master quantum mechanics, you’re already plenty of steps ahead of the average man my friend!
When enjoying your channel and its diversity,there is nothing better than wanting more...I sought out other ways to view this and wandering into the Go top players (your guest) competing with A1.Much appreciation to you both for being thought provoking about our egos and humanity.
I wondered days later after watching the video of the world champion Go player in the 1st game ever against AI, when he had indicated he was beaten-did the AlphaGo in the 2nd game attempt to remind him or pysch him out by feigning surrender in a seemingly random move before beating him 🤔
I'm surprised. That was insanely good.
Lex's Lloyd Christmas Cosplay is on point.
I'm rated around 1300 in chess and play quite like Lex. I would also do pretty well for the first 10 or so moves but slowly lose the advantage against a good player in the middle game and get squeezed out without making a single major mistake. Against good players the small details matter, for example I didn't like his bishop for knight swap - I don't think he gained any positional advantage from it and he could have further developed instead. Just small things like that make you lose momentum.
thank you for this ..
I've been a beginner for about 30 years but have been watching Magnus play online games and talking his way thru it. So over my head but fascinating
I would suggest that you watch lower level players as well as high-level players. It's the same in any sport, but honestly sometimes the masters are SO good that it's very hard to follow what they are actually achieving with every move they make, whereas with lower level players it becomes very obvious over time what they are ATTEMPTING to do, and you actually end up learning more.
This was entertaining, play chess more with guests!
exactly
You could interview Eric Rosen, or Levy Rozman (GothamChess) on your show.
late game parallel rooks is always the nail in the coffin.
lex u should have 1 little game of chess with most of your hosts that are willing either at the begining or end end of the podcast its real fun to watch
Lex's move pawnA7 -> A5, it was game over. It allowed white to start the attack
Lex is awesome. This was very entertaining.
Does anyone have a link to the alpha zero vs stockfish game they mentioned here?
That was pretty good. You held up well for quite a long time. You just got ground down eventually.
Demis is such a cool guy. Lovely man
At min @5:42. Is white knight takes pawn on g7 a good move , instead of d4-d5 ?
next time increase the width of the table by one meter and we have new time control in chess: "correspondence blitz"
As Lex’s timer runs out and they agree to keep playing -Demi’s ‘ so you’ve lost once, but you can lose twice.’
Was bishop to c6 not a crushing move at 4:32 for lex? Maybe I missed something.
Maybe not crushing (White would play Nc5 and the game keeps going, at least for some time), but you are right that bishop to c6 was the best move and Lex’s last chance to save the game at that point.
Definitely not great for Demis but he can escape the fork with this line: Bc6 Nc3, Rc2 Rb6, then players decide if they want to trade pieces
I love these chess ones
Lex - "You have to take notes of what moves you've taken?"
Lex's subconscious - "I could either break your jaw or choke you..."
at some point after a too cocky comment your mind goes there
@@duskanddawn0335 hahahah....I'd actually trust Lex with my life. If he hands me a backpack that he says is a parachute, I'd jump without checking it.
@@peter5.056 why?
@@jonasjorgensen8759 because he lives his life with love in his heart, and when it comes to technical details, he's METICULOUS....and he's an engineer. Typically, and I know plenty of engineers myself, software, civil, and mechanical, and they are all some of the most solid characters I know of.
Great guest
Lex, you're the man!
More please.
I like the stretching and chess-playing combo. It could be the new thing.
"you can lose twice" lmfao
No joke, this was the most interesting chess game I've seen, because I felt like I had a chance to understand it.
Good Game ! That's a nice chess board too
It's so great to see that a genius like Demis, who will definitely create sentient AI one day in the next 20 years, is extremely down to earth and has a great sense of humor.
Ai can never be sentient
@@delrayking5724 sweet dreams to you
At 4:35 Bc3 would've been pretty good. I also thought eventually you would connect your rooks on the A-file but it didn't really happen
Just commenting after watching so i haven't looked at the game very carefully but maybe still had some chances with Bd5 after Nxe4? My guess is black is still probably worse but then you have and exchange or a piece for several pawns at least
Great game Lex!
this was great :)
This is like the Lex version of Hot Ones.
omg did you guys see the Knight C3 fork or am I missing something there
As an avid chess player with well over 50,000 games I'm quite surprised that this game didn't suck. It was actually quite entertaining.
When I watched this the first thought I had was, lex is a hustler 🤣
Well done, guys.
Could you interview Michael Singer, author of 'The Untethered Soul' among other life changing works?
"We got 5 minutes each" -> Video length is 9:58.. Haven't watched it yet but I have a feeling who will come out on top
I get stuck in that corner every damn time... Every time
Impressive play, Lex. Great opening, solid. I'd rate your performance in this game at around 1500 FIDE, and that's not bad for a blitz game!
More like 700
@@ZEROTOHERO0100 1500 is definitely over rating Lex, but 700 is probably under rating him, but the truth is we would need to see more games to get a better idea. You can't get an accurate view on someones rating from one game. You need more of a sample size, especially in people like Lex where the consistency of the way they play is off quite a bit.
FIDE? I don't know about 1500, more like 1100. But he's very very good for someone who doesn't play regularly
That was fun!!
Please have more rounds together!!!
Now play 5D chess with multiverse time travel
I have been playing against the computer at Demis's level. I think he is 2200 which is VERY good. At 2000 the computer will beat me 4 times to every 1 time I beat it or go for a draw. At 2200 I have only beaten it once (which was the first time I played) and have never beaten it again where I lost 21 times in a row. I beat the 2000 level too at first but it learns. It learns HOW you play and designs its strategies around how you play. All it takes is ONE error and you lose. Interestingly the game plays like Demis where it is willing to continue to sacrifice pieces if it is up on you by even a pon because it knows at some point it will win because it has 1 more movable piece than you do. It is very interesting to play against.
Lex has got a lot better since that game with the Wutang guy.