If circumstances are such that a fatal collision is unavoidable and it had to choose between an aged Nun and a young suicide bomber, which would it choose to run over?
Shows we are still in old car thinking. Why will autonomous vehicles need no passing lines and what makes people think vehicles in one lane won't be in constant communication with surrounding vehicles. The only real issue will be the human to vehicle interface or loads dropped on the road by careless humans fixing them to trailers or trucks. The same as it is now, the first vehicle on the scene has to make slow down, swerve or stop calls but with autonomous vehicles the message gets fed to upcoming vehicles "Hey I just encountered a hazard at point x" or "I am moving into lane Y to avoid a hazard all vehicles in immediate area slow now". It's almost like we cant accept the vehicles will be not only in control of our vehicles but all vehicles will be situationally aware.
Only problem mate is that not everyone will have an smart enabled car for a couple decades. It would be awesome though and I've thought about it like in the same way.
No way should these be on the road for at least 10 years yet. "What if" scenarios run into the millions, no way can programming solve this yet. Dedicated highway lanes yes but no way on general roads.
Machines like this aren't programmed deterministically, but statistically. They're run through simulations of scenarios that have been encountered on the streets, until their behaviour is deemed to be good enough. Usually that means that they're better at it than humans.
But the problem is, not everyone can live (or would want to) live next to their colleagues only every second of their private life... or worse, living next to your boss
Are you stupid? Why can't everyone live close to where they work, well, let me guess, not everyone can live in the center of the city where MOST people work, not just because of space issues, not enough apartments etc but also because they CAN'T AFFORD IT! Also when you want to take a trip, go see your friends etc. you have to move there too? Are you people really this stupid and don't think about anything you say or write?
***** Dude, if you don't have the money to move somewhere how the FUCK are you going to have the money to buy a self driving car? Cars are already so expensive with all the tech and regulations and taxes that go into the modern manufacturing process, and self driving cars will only make it harder to afford a vehicle. www.businessinsider.com/the-self-driving-car-is-an-awful-idea-2012-6?op=1 Not to mention I think people who spend all their time in a lab or getting taxi'd/uberd around everywhere don't realize how much many subtle nuances it takes to drive on the road with other people that short of developping an actual complex AI in each persons cars there is no way to program for it. This reminds me when everybody thought we would have flying cars by now. Occams razor dude. If its unnecessary (which it really fucking is) and a more complex solution than is required to achieve the same result, its not going to be viable. hackaday.com/2016/04/18/the-predictability-problem-with-self-driving-cars/ I bet you believed in the elon musk hyper loop and solar roadways and probably donated to that hoverboard scam too! www.linkedin.com/pulse/case-against-self-driving-cars-john-c-abell p.s. It would be much easier and better for the country to make more public transportation options to and from a city, since it seems its mostly the city commuters who think they should determine how road laws and cars are manufactured for americans all over the U.S.
The human race is doomed if some people are worried about autonomous car ethics? In the scheme of things it's a non-issue when it comes to human life and property.
This is a mostly pointless design problem. Given the THOUSANDS of lives autonomous transportation will save, just toss a coin and you're STILL doing vastly better than human drivers. Just go for simple solution...if there's a problem, just stop the vehicle.
I wonder how this car will behave if the choice is safety of the driver vs safety of the pedestrian (or another driver)
If circumstances are such that a fatal collision is unavoidable and it had to choose between an aged Nun and a young suicide bomber, which would it choose to run over?
Shows we are still in old car thinking. Why will autonomous vehicles need no passing lines and what makes people think vehicles in one lane won't be in constant communication with surrounding vehicles. The only real issue will be the human to vehicle interface or loads dropped on the road by careless humans fixing them to trailers or trucks. The same as it is now, the first vehicle on the scene has to make slow down, swerve or stop calls but with autonomous vehicles the message gets fed to upcoming vehicles "Hey I just encountered a hazard at point x" or "I am moving into lane Y to avoid a hazard all vehicles in immediate area slow now". It's almost like we cant accept the vehicles will be not only in control of our vehicles but all vehicles will be situationally aware.
Only problem mate is that not everyone will have an smart enabled car for a couple decades. It would be awesome though and I've thought about it like in the same way.
Will it be able to defend it's self against angry jobless teamsters?
No way should these be on the road for at least 10 years yet. "What if" scenarios run into the millions, no way can programming solve this yet. Dedicated highway lanes yes but no way on general roads.
Machines like this aren't programmed deterministically, but statistically. They're run through simulations of scenarios that have been encountered on the streets, until their behaviour is deemed to be good enough. Usually that means that they're better at it than humans.
not bad，guys
I will never understand why people who don't like commuting can't just live closer to where they work if they hate driving so much.
But the problem is, not everyone can live (or would want to) live next to their colleagues only every second of their private life... or worse, living next to your boss
Are you stupid? Why can't everyone live close to where they work, well, let me guess, not everyone can live in the center of the city where MOST people work, not just because of space issues, not enough apartments etc but also because they CAN'T AFFORD IT! Also when you want to take a trip, go see your friends etc. you have to move there too? Are you people really this stupid and don't think about anything you say or write?
*****
Dude, if you don't have the money to move somewhere how the FUCK are you going to have the money to buy a self driving car?
Cars are already so expensive with all the tech and regulations and taxes that go into the modern manufacturing process, and self driving cars will only make it harder to afford a vehicle.
www.businessinsider.com/the-self-driving-car-is-an-awful-idea-2012-6?op=1
Not to mention I think people who spend all their time in a lab or getting taxi'd/uberd around everywhere don't realize how much many subtle nuances it takes to drive on the road with other people that short of developping an actual complex AI in each persons cars there is no way to program for it.
This reminds me when everybody thought we would have flying cars by now.
Occams razor dude. If its unnecessary (which it really fucking is) and a more complex solution than is required to achieve the same result, its not going to be viable.
hackaday.com/2016/04/18/the-predictability-problem-with-self-driving-cars/
I bet you believed in the elon musk hyper loop and solar roadways and probably donated to that hoverboard scam too!
www.linkedin.com/pulse/case-against-self-driving-cars-john-c-abell
p.s. It would be much easier and better for the country to make more public transportation options to and from a city, since it seems its mostly the city commuters who think they should determine how road laws and cars are manufactured for americans all over the U.S.
population density.
Ryan Griffiths
Our population is growing too rapidly.
The human race is doomed if some people are worried about autonomous car ethics?
In the scheme of things it's a non-issue when it comes to human life and property.
right, but someone still needs to worry so it does not become an in issue in the scheme of things when they start mass producing them.
It's sort of the same choice as risking surgery to save a life... cross the line.
This is a mostly pointless design problem. Given the THOUSANDS of lives autonomous transportation will save, just toss a coin and you're STILL doing vastly better than human drivers. Just go for simple solution...if there's a problem, just stop the vehicle.