Lisa put this package together for the attendees of her Kerygma summit, which is held each year in April in Franklin Tennessee. She brings in many of the authors of these books to teach workshops. Many of the books that she recommends are used in the Denver Seminary Biblical and theological studies master's program.
Just because the package has that focus doesn’t mean that the individual resources being offered in it are good, bad, or indifferent. Those must be evaluated on their own merits. Further, even if some of the resources were bad, I don’t mind owning them in the slightest, because they will need to be referenced by myself in order to know their positions and refute them. As such, regardless of your position on this theological issue, the owning of this package or not is an entirely morally neutral matter.
You should probably tell Debrah and phoebe that. Maybe even the apostle Paul who clearly commends women for their contributions to the ministry, Even if you think that women shouldn’t have a pulpit ministry (which is EXTREMELY debatable within Bible believing scholars) you still cannot come to the conclusion women have no place in ministry without cherry picking two verses and completely butchering their context.
@@galacticnovastudios 1 Timothy 2: 11-15; 11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. And the Bible has the qualifications for a Pastor: Titus 1: 6-9; 6 An elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife, a man whose children believe[b] and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7 Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless-not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8 Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it. And 1 Timothy 3: 1-7; 3 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a [a]bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not [b]given to wine, not violent, [c]not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not [d]covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a [e]novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. It is clear form all of these verses that Men are to be Pastors, Bishops and Deacons.
It is well hidden, it's not actually listed under base packages unless you actually use the search function.
There you go. Hopefully those who would benefit are able to find it.
Anything having to do with Lisa Harper is an automatic redflag.
Never heard of her. I’ve found the resources valuable. 👍
I must a liberal. I already own most of the library, but saw a few books I thought would be beneficial. $125...cheapest base package ever.
Let’s go! It’s a steele at that price! :)
Lisa put this package together for the attendees of her Kerygma summit, which is held each year in April in Franklin Tennessee. She brings in many of the authors of these books to teach workshops. Many of the books that she recommends are used in the Denver Seminary Biblical and theological studies master's program.
Thank you for this clarification! Well, I am very happy to benefit from the package even though I did not attend!! Take care.
Do I have an interest in women in ministry? Only as much as the Bible has. Which is none. And as a Pastor, you shouldn't be promoting it.
Just because the package has that focus doesn’t mean that the individual resources being offered in it are good, bad, or indifferent. Those must be evaluated on their own merits. Further, even if some of the resources were bad, I don’t mind owning them in the slightest, because they will need to be referenced by myself in order to know their positions and refute them. As such, regardless of your position on this theological issue, the owning of this package or not is an entirely morally neutral matter.
You should probably tell Debrah and phoebe that. Maybe even the apostle Paul who clearly commends women for their contributions to the ministry,
Even if you think that women shouldn’t have a pulpit ministry (which is EXTREMELY debatable within Bible believing scholars) you still cannot come to the conclusion women have no place in ministry without cherry picking two verses and completely butchering their context.
@@galacticnovastudios 1 Timothy 2: 11-15; 11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
And the Bible has the qualifications for a Pastor: Titus 1: 6-9; 6 An elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife, a man whose children believe[b] and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7 Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless-not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8 Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
And 1 Timothy 3: 1-7; 3 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a [a]bishop, he desires a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not [b]given to wine, not violent, [c]not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not [d]covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a [e]novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
It is clear form all of these verses that Men are to be Pastors, Bishops and Deacons.