I think when he said he can't go there because that time they wanted to invite him concerning something he said in this current proceedings and now because the event was not about or has nothing to deal with the Senzo Meyiwa case
Ok first time i come across this channel..I'm impressed clear video and straight to the point I just subscribed and liked ❤ Regarding Judge Ratha he is being petty about the invite and the last part about lawyers being held in contemp...low low low blow cause I think he was just intimidating the defense...I like how Mshololo is not bothered 😂😂😂
Now you are right. People failed to see that Ratha is fighting with a condition noted by amnesia known to be Alzhemia. I am sure that he was told of the condition. That is why he fights for remembering long term events in memory, because he is already losing things in short term memory. He is persisting forgetting people's names which he had just called few seconds away but remember things in1975
Judge Rata was nkt invited maybe they were talking about hhis behaviour in court but thats ubfair cause Rata was the one who formed BLA uzogcina ezwile khona ozomputshuzela what was being said especiallyBaloyi 😅
But these are two different things Zimasa. At first Black Lawyers Association wanted to meet Judge Ratha over his utterances about the conduct of some black lawyers. He even says himself that he cannot discuss the ongoing case with the BLA. Now, it's an event sets to honour BLA veterans, not a secret meeting where it's going to be about the way he conducts the trial, something totally different to that meeting. Maybe he was not even going to attend, but mere seeking an acknowledgement about his role in the formation of BLA. But the two matters, a meeting requested by the BLA and the BLA event which is not going to be attended by him alone are too different.
@@zimasancoliwe The fact that BLA even called him to order shows that he's no longer in touch with the organisation. But generally the old man loves to talk about himself & what a good man he is, I guess to counter-balance negative publicity he has attracted
Zimasa I'm not sure about Judge Ratha being a founder of BLA...he's telling a story upside-down Godfrey Pitje was actually a founder member together with Justuce Moseneke The story about Godfrey Pitjie warning him to leave the politics and focus actually that was Godfrey's story The contempt of case was directed to Pitjie for refusing to sit on only blacks section...he was to lay a fine or 10 days in prison he then chose prison but he was later released on bail by an unknown person....Plagiarism at its best
I again feel that the Judge was trying not to have silent court hence he was creating a conversation with advocates while waiting for Advocate Mngomezulu. That is why he drop the topic on arrival of the late Advocate.
The very law that precluded to have a meeting with them also precludes them from inviting him. Ratha has a sense of undermining the very Black lawyers. I think what is left for him is to be EXPELLED from the very association
Secondly, I think this was just a light conversation to kill time while waiting for Mngomezulu and to reduce tensions out of the seriousness of this heated murder trial. But I'm also aware about the hatred towards judge Ratha, if you watch comment section of the SABC TH-cam Channel, there are people who are not just watching the trial but expressing their hatred of him, whether he's right or wrong.
Context is very important. Judge Ratha is right. He did not want to meet BLA to discuss continuing case. However he was expecting an invite to celebrate achievement of BLA with other veterans. So this means BLA is emotional. Judge is matured.
I think you missing the point my sister the Judge said he won't meet BLA regarding the case and qouted relevant clause. Now he wanted to be part of the celebration which has nothing to do with the case. Please get your facts straight before placing an argument here.
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There Baloyi goes yeah when Ratha asks if this is how black lawyers behave bathong 😂😂😂
Hi dear I think Adv. Mngomezulu will not be late on purpose. If he runs late, it must be something out of his cobtrol
It makes sense
Ratha was not invited because he think he is not a black lawyer
But why he wasn't invited,as black lawyer.something wrong
Because he disrespecting everyone except Baloyi,he bow on his knees worshiping Baloyi
He thinks he is white?😂
I just want to see meyiwa family receive professional Justice.that all i want....vs who,vs who is nothing to me
I agree about the reason for not inviting him(judge) . He is very arrogant and refuse to admit that he is at fault.
Eish his apology
There was no need to invite him cos he is very rude he doesnt treat defence well
Why would they appoint a retired judge for such a high profile case?
Experience, I think
??? It is big enough for the judge to be removed in this case to achieve justice, if he is kept well justice is not intended!
Ratha is old he supposed to stay at home ugugile and uyadelela futhi
I think when he said he can't go there because that time they wanted to invite him concerning something he said in this current proceedings and now because the event was not about or has nothing to deal with the Senzo Meyiwa case
Shame on you judge
Ok first time i come across this channel..I'm impressed clear video and straight to the point I just subscribed and liked ❤
Regarding Judge Ratha he is being petty about the invite and the last part about lawyers being held in contemp...low low low blow cause I think he was just intimidating the defense...I like how Mshololo is not bothered 😂😂😂
It's my first timein this channel too
Awu thank you so much 🥰🙏🏾
🥰🙏🏾Thank you so much
Mshololo had nothing to say 😂She was just minding her own😂
Good you not invited good job
Now you are right. People failed to see that Ratha is fighting with a condition noted by amnesia known to be Alzhemia. I am sure that he was told of the condition. That is why he fights for remembering long term events in memory, because he is already losing things in short term memory. He is persisting forgetting people's names which he had just called few seconds away but remember things in1975
Ow wow I really didn’t know he was diagnosed 😳I think they should be patient with him
Yes you rite swart engelsman shame on you
Judge Rata was nkt invited maybe they were talking about hhis behaviour in court but thats ubfair cause Rata was the one who formed BLA uzogcina ezwile khona ozomputshuzela what was being said especiallyBaloyi 😅
But these are two different things Zimasa. At first Black Lawyers Association wanted to meet Judge Ratha over his utterances about the conduct of some black lawyers. He even says himself that he cannot discuss the ongoing case with the BLA. Now, it's an event sets to honour BLA veterans, not a secret meeting where it's going to be about the way he conducts the trial, something totally different to that meeting. Maybe he was not even going to attend, but mere seeking an acknowledgement about his role in the formation of BLA. But the two matters, a meeting requested by the BLA and the BLA event which is not going to be attended by him alone are too different.
I get your point. However, has he been supporting the BLA for him to be invited or he is just like all the other founders who are not part of the BLA
@@zimasancoliwe The fact that BLA even called him to order shows that he's no longer in touch with the organisation.
But generally the old man loves to talk about himself & what a good man he is, I guess to counter-balance negative publicity he has attracted
Zimasa I'm not sure about Judge Ratha being a founder of BLA...he's telling a story upside-down Godfrey Pitje was actually a founder member together with Justuce Moseneke
The story about Godfrey Pitjie warning him to leave the politics and focus actually that was Godfrey's story
The contempt of case was directed to Pitjie for refusing to sit on only blacks section...he was to lay a fine or 10 days in prison he then chose prison but he was later released on bail by an unknown person....Plagiarism at its best
What 😂Awu
Iyoh, 😂😂😂
Liyagula lelikhehla🤞
Utsho kanje😂
But ke bamulayile uyanyanyisa lobaba yisphukuphuku uRatha
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I again feel that the Judge was trying not to have silent court hence he was creating a conversation with advocates while waiting for Advocate Mngomezulu. That is why he drop the topic on arrival of the late Advocate.
Very gud indeed
No dear there's nothing wrong for being late sometimes you can't control the traffic on the road.Ratha must grow up not act like a spoilt brad
You are right. Somethings are beyond our control
Morning Zimasa
Morning Bhuti🙏🏾
The very law that precluded to have a meeting with them also precludes them from inviting him. Ratha has a sense of undermining the very Black lawyers. I think what is left for him is to be EXPELLED from the very association
Ratha you toomuch off your self that's why you were not invited🙄
Ubuhlungu esibhekene nabo ngomthetho wase South Africa bubuhlungu kakhulu.imideni eminingi isejele for izinto angazenza ngenxayabantu abanemali abaphezulu
Secondly, I think this was just a light conversation to kill time while waiting for Mngomezulu and to reduce tensions out of the seriousness of this heated murder trial. But I'm also aware about the hatred towards judge Ratha, if you watch comment section of the SABC TH-cam Channel, there are people who are not just watching the trial but expressing their hatred of him, whether he's right or wrong.
I noticed that, whether he is right or wrong, he will be wrong
If u follow this case you'll understand why he get all those jabs , he deserves all of d negative comments.
Umkhulu discussing unnecessary agenda live wow
What kind of apology is this 😂🙆
It is giving “Just because I was told to do so”😂😂
Context is very important.
Judge Ratha is right.
He did not want to meet BLA to discuss continuing case. However he was expecting an invite to celebrate achievement of BLA with other veterans.
So this means BLA is emotional. Judge is matured.
Kant umhlopheyini ngoba umnyamanawe ukushothi wena ungumlungu aybo jaji nawe ublek
Ugugile wena
No uyadelela ss lobaba uzaziyena nobujaji bakhe unempakamo
Eish ya neh.
What a wealth of experience by Judge Ratha. He is gud
😂😂😂
Weee batata 😅😅😅
@@lindiwelindiwe6109 ndinyanisile nheee
😂😂😂😂😂
that was unfair 😅
That's how u serve errogant coconuts loke this oldie
I think you missing the point my sister the Judge said he won't meet BLA regarding the case and qouted relevant clause.
Now he wanted to be part of the celebration which has nothing to do with the case. Please get your facts straight before placing an argument here.
Why do you think he was not invited?
He's not wanted finish
Judge yu are so egocentric
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