As I said in the video, I've never worked this hard on a vid before, so any feedback is appreciated. Just keep in mind that this video is very opinion based and may not even represent my full thoughts. Also at 6:20 I meant creativity idk why I said curiosity.
Putting the poison mushroom at the beginning is the best place they could have put it. They have to teach the mechanic at some point, so it's better there than if you were further into the game
on one hand it definitely makes sense to put the trap that looks like a helpful item in a place you'd usually get the helpful item, but at the same time I can totally see it being super confusing and upsetting
@@KitsuneYojimbo What I mean is, I don't think it's a trap at all! It's more of a warning shot to let new players know what poison mushrooms look like. There aren't really any stakes at the beginning of the first level since you won't have invested more than a few seconds by the time you find it. It's an invisible tutorial, just like how the first mushroom was designed in the first Super Mario Bros.
It's also a great tool for setting expectations! Normally you'd have to get stuck and die a lot to figure out just how difficult the game is. With the poison mushroom, it lets you know exactly what kind of game it'll be from the get-go. It honestly left me excited for the challenge!
Doki Doki Panic actually DID start as a Mario concept. Also, Super Mario World technically has six new power ups: Cape, Balloon, Yoshi and his standard abilities, Blue Yoshi’s flight, Red Yoshi’s fire, and Yellow Yoshi’s stomp. Each Yoshi can use all of those powers as well.
I'll say the balloon means almost nothing, it's in two levels only, just like the goomba shoe is only in one level in SM3. So I don't count that as a real power up. The feather and the four yoshis are the real new powerups.
0:56 To be fair, this is how virtually every other game at the time handled multiplayer. The only way to play real-time multiplayer at the time was through LAN as real-time multiplayer required more resources than what the typical home console could offer, so most older games relied on a turn-based approach instead. People were very familiar with this type of multiplayer, as it was the same kind of gameplay that the majority of home and arcade consoles at the time offered.
In the Japanese SMB2, I think the negative warp zones are even more sadistic than the poison mushrooms. The poison mushroom is something the game teaches the player about very early and it has a distinct appearance that makes it avoidable, but the negative warps punish the player for thorough level exploration, which is something that I don't think Mario games should do.
When it comes to Mario World I feel like the reason they only added one new powerup and kept the standard mushroom fire flower and star is because Yoshi himself. He’s the main gimmick of this game and utility wise acts similar to a powerup especially when it comes to the shells so they probably didn’t need any more powerups. The cape is also has more depth than a standard Mario powerup so there’s that too
When the original SMB came out, I don't really think anyone thought the two player mode would be anything other than what it actually was. Alternating turns was just what games were back then.
Not ALL games. The original Mario Bros (not Super) was simultaneous multiplayer. Duck Hunt (usually included on the same cartridge as Super Mario Bros.) was actually technically simultaneous multiplayer, too, actually. (The second player was able to override the computer's automatic duck flight pattern.) There were a few other games like that, too, including a lot of later release NES games. That said, Super Mario Bros being turn-based didn't really surprise anybody. I think most people who got the game had already played it on the ubiquitous arcade consoles that were everywhere. We knew how it worked. Seriously... they had these flat, glass-top table consoles for Super Mario Bros. at the front end of SUPERMARKETS. (More than once I played on those while my Mom went shopping.) And at many bars, usually next to or part of Pac-Man machines. I think lots of people bought the console so they could stop feeding quarters.
The Mario World one is kinda invalid imo. The four Yoshis (the normal Green one, Red, Blue and Yellow) are each distinct enough to be considered powerups, and seperate ones at that. So Mario World has 6 new powerups, not 2
I kind of see him as the base level character. Toad is super fast but has a low jump, Luigi has that unique high jump, and Peach has that float but she’s also slow. Mario is just good at all things, not great, which isnt exactly bad.
I had a thought regarding Mario 3 and its lack of a save feature. I know the Warp Whistles _kind of_ fulfill the same purpose, but does anyone else think it would have been cool (and fittingly '90s gaming) if each of Peach's letters contained a 'Secret Message' that was a password that if input on a password screen would start the player at the start of the world the player would be going into when receiving said letter? Perhaps also starting players with the 'Jewel that helps protect you' that was enclosed in said letter.
The problem there is the variability in the power-ups in your inventory. If it was just running off passwords, you'd automatically start at the set map level with an empty inventory screen. That MIGHT have been okay in some ways... but it'd still be quite disappointing. That was often the trade-off with the warp whistles... you can skip to (nearly) the end of the game, but you miss out on the best power-ups. Incidentally, you can get the first two warp whistles in, I think, less than 10 minutes? The third one takes a little longer because you have to clear half the desert map to get to it.
It is not explicitly communicated ingame what it all means but it is something you can figure out. You can tell when you have cleared everything because the counter on your savefile while change color to essentially indicate 100% completion.
@elio7610 You also get a star next to your 96. Even the manual gets it wrong. It says something like "the number indicates the number of areas you've found". 🤔
@@ninjaguyYT well you can do it with the warps pretty quickly but you’re skipping almost the whole game. That’s probably the only time I’ve beat it in one go
The Worst thing in every Mario game is Princess Peach getting captured over and over again then Toad says the infamous line sorry Mario but the Princess is in another castle I absolutely hate Peach lol.
At the time of release, SMB2 didn't actually seem that disjointed and out of place to American kids because we didn't know about SMB2J, and between SMB1 and other games starring Mario like Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, and Wrecking Crew, it just seemed like another interesting game starring Mario with a new setting and mechanics. It wasn't until more Mario games came out and a general formula was established that Mario 2 started getting a rep as the black sheep. Zelda II followed a very similar track. It was pretty well-liked back when there were only two Zelda games. The funny thing is I remember being more confused by the release of SMB3, I was expecting Nintendo to do something completely different again, rather than build upon the gameplay of SMB1.
My first exposure to Super Mario Bros. 3 was in The Wizard when the kids play it at the game tournament. And that was amazing, too, because the movie showed us how to get one of the warp whistles.
@@Swiftbow I remember that. That movie was wild. I played SMB3 quite a bit earlier than The Wizard came out. Not sure why, but the Famicom version released quite a bit earlier than the NES version. My local video shop rented out the Japanese version along with an adapter.
@@BenjaminNixon NES ports had to be translated and rebuilt for the slightly different console. So I think Famicon always got earlier releases. That's interesting your shop rented them out! I remember we used to rent VCRs when I was little before we finally bought one. But we never rented a game console. (Though we did rent quite a few games.)
Back when Mario 2 came out in the USA, the 2d Mario formula hadn’t been established yet. So the fact that Mario 2 was quite different to the original Super Mario Bros didn’t confuse players at all. It’s only from Mario 3 onwards that original Super Mario Bros formula started to be established and then retrospectively the USA version of Mario 2 is now obviously the black sheep
this was actually very common during that time where the sequel would have a noticeable different mechanic than the original. they could experiment to see what does and doesn't work. the original Super Mario Bros. 2 is essentially a hard mode.
The lost levels were ok. They certainly weren't the best Mario, but they really made me think about what I'm doing before I do stuff. I think the unfair elements are kinda fun, but I can get why others wouldn't like it. Also, the poison mushroom thing was kind of strange to me too, but I suspected it was bad because of the weird coloring. (It's brown instead of a vibrant red.) Also, for your Mario Land 2 complaint, I think the 32 levels were kind of better than having 96 levels. I would've prefered at least 36 levels myself. I feel it would just drag on for a lot longer, and 32 levels is the same as Mario 1, and that game was plenty good with that many levels. I think the real problem with Land 2 is that it doesn't have as much content. It has, by far, my favorite level designs out of any old Mario game, but it still feels like you blow through them quickly. It doesn't help that there's no hard mode, unlike Mario 1. SML2, while my favorite, really lacks in the content department. Otherwise, you did a great job making this video, good luck, mate!
9:22 I'm in full agreement here. I found the mega mushroom to be pretty frustrating to use especially as a pocket item where I want to use it somewhere but I end up only being able to go like a few feet forwards and not be able to do anything else with it. It was an incredibly useless item in that game. It seems to only work in locations where you specifically get one in a level. But if you have the power up with you in your pockets you just won't really have a good feasible place to use it. I was 18 when new Super Mario Bros came out for the DS and I absolutely love the Mario games I grew up with in the 90s, but I thought that new Super Mario Bros was actually a pretty fantastic game especially with the fun multiplayer. But like you said that mega mushroom there's rarely a good time to ever use it
A bit of info about the Poison Mushroom: Even if placing one in the beginning of 1-1 in The Lost Levels was bull, the Poison Mushroom doesn't insta-kill. It actually just damages Mario upon pickup, much like damage from touching an enemy. So the Poison Mushroom is only fatal if picked up as small Mario.
With SML2, I certainly agree that there are too few levels. My biggest beef is that there is no way to replay a boss level after defeating the boss (for that matter, you can’t even return to the introductory level). It also annoys me that most secret levels can’t be accessed by the map. If you want to play it again, you need to find the secret exit again.
The second game the team made it for them. If you play that one you want to play the nes/famicom release as they made it identical to the first game and ruined or axed the bonus worlds on later releases. It’s supposed to be about fair challenge and patience but they added rng on Super Nintendo and other ports.
First off SMB (and Zelda 2!) graphics were incredible and amazing compared to what was on the NES up to those points. And of course Luigi would be second player if he was already in Mario Bros! The problem was that if one player was significantly better the other player would have to wait a long time to get their turn...hence why in All-Stars this was changed to either dying OR clearing the stage gave the other player their turn. Forgive me if I'm going off on a tangent but there was a rule change in Candy Land for a similar reason. Originally if you got on one of the stuck spaces, you didn't escape without drawing its color (blue/red/yellow) and that would get boring to be stuck for several turns in a row. The rule now is that if you land on a stuck space, you simply lose/skip your next turn.
The interesting part about SMB2(J) (Or SMB: The Lost Levels) is the fact that They placed a infinite 1UP farm at the very begin of the first level on purpose
Interesting take on the Mario series, but I find it wild that you’d say Sunshine has imprecise controls, when one of the biggest talking points in its favor has typically been how fluidly you can maneuver the levels with Mario’s move set and precise controls.
Those multiplayer hacks of the old games are pretty cool. ... would have been a great feature back when there was anyone around to play them with, though.
The one thing about Super Mario World I hated the most was how slow Mario moved on the world map. It should not take so long to go back to a level in a different world.
In one of Jeff Rovin's How to Win at... books, he says the background graphics of 'World are especially impressive but expected more in the animation for 16-bits. On a related note, he called the graphics in StarFox "interesting" but people already used to 32-bit/64-bit sorts of flying games (like on the PC at the time?) might be a tad spoiled!
3 and mario world dont have nothing bad. Theyre perfect and by the way... nobody was confused by mario 2 back in the day. It was the only mario 2 that we knew.
I love the controls of mario 64, they're not the best but after getting used to it i love the back flip jumping, long jumping, lounging yourself as an alternative to the long jumping but not as powerful version of long jumping, being able to stomp, having more ways of beating up enemies other than just jumping on top of them like kicking punching and some of the you gotta grab and throw, and the many optional ways of collecting a certain amount of stars is so perfect with those, the only really bad parts with the controls I think are the swimming but that could be fixed with mods if you play on stuff like sm64 pc port or coop ex which I would recommend to anyone since it pretty much modernized the game without changing anything major
I sometimes like to press on low view count videos covering stuff i usually find completly unrelated to me and see if theyre any good and oh my god this video was geniunly so enjoyable because you say how you feel about stuff honestly and you dont pad out your words to expand the run time and i really enjoy that (also the bad mic makes the video feel simple and nostalgic and is also very enjoyable for that :3)
0:49 honestly my problem with Super Mario Bros is that too many levels are completely identical to one another. Especially when you actually beat the game and you take on the supposed harder mode where all the goombas are replaced by buzzy beetles. Because any two identical levels end up matching the later one to be identical because the later one is the harder one in difficulty. 1 - 3 is identical to 5 - 3 1 - 4 is identical to 6-4 2 - 2 is identical to 7-2 2 - 3 is identical to 7-3 2 - 4 is identical to 5-4 I honestly find this to be completely unacceptable especially when so many other NES games were able to have all levels be different. Including the very next Mario game having every level be different than one another with very limited exceptions like 7 - 3 being the same as c - 3 and 7 - 4 being the same as c-4.
5:21 i feel like you really had to try and dig deep for this one, because even though there are only 2 power-ups, yoshi in of itself is basically an entire new power-up, and considering how different colors of yoshis even have different effects, and the wing power-up for them as well, i'd argue mario world probably has more variety in its power-ups than some of the mainline modern mario games have had
5:36 pretty sure most mario games only have 1 new power up maybe 2, SMB3 is the only game with 3 new power ups I can think of, and even one of them is just the upgraded racoon tail
I guess I was mainly talking about games after Mario World. Mario 64, NSMB, Galaxy, NSMBW, Galaxy 2, and Wonder all have 3 or more new powerups, and stuff like Sunshine and Odyssey have alternatives to powerups like nozzles or captures.
something I don't get, people always complain about the penguin suit outclassing the ice flower from the get-go, even though it's essentially exactly what the tanooki suit did in SMB3 (unless I'm mistaken?)
@tzarg from what I know the Tanooki powerup in Mario 3 had the additional ability to turn into a statue which didn't end up being that useful. The penguin suit had a lot more benefits but I still think it's a bit unfair to criticize it since it's somewhat rare.
I feel like SMW’s lack of new powerups was so that they could develop the powers that they did add: Yoshi and the cape. In SMB3, I feel like they overstuffed the game with the Hammer, Frog, and the Goomba Shoe (which was only used in one level), as well as all those weird one use items on the overworld
Some of those power-ups in SMB3 are so hard to find that I literally haven't ever gotten some of them. Like the Hammer Suit. (And I've had the game since the same year it was released.) What the game really needed was the ability to swap out power-ups on the map screen without losing the one you already have. Like the power-up swaps into your inventory instead.
When SMB2 came out, all my friends and I loved it. Sequels felt like they were supposed to be different. We didn’t put too much thought into it, we just accepted it. I mean, the controls were better, the graphics were better, the colors were brighter, the music was better, the levels were better, you could choose one of four players. It was a brand new adventure, and it was super fun. That’s all that mattered. ❤
To be honest, thinking about it Mario games don't have the best track record with multiplayer. SMB1 - You take turns as Mario and Luigi which is fine to me, it was a still pretty early NES game. But I never understood why you had to wait for the other play to lose a life, to get your turn. SMB2 (Japan) - Same as above. SMB2 (International) - No multiplayer. SMB3 - They improved and you actually take turns playing levels, wish they tried real time multiplayer. Though time constraints were probably the issue. SMW - Works same as above, but at this point they were honestly running out of excuses. The SNES could definitely handle Mario and Luigi playing at the same time. SML1 & SML2 - No multiplayer, but I guess they are Game Boy games after all. SM64 - We all know multiplayer was planned, but time constraints and hardware limitations killed it. SMSS - They honestly could've made this work if they tried, but I guess they didn't. SM64 DS - This 100% worked, you can see footage from beta builds with 4 player real time multiplayer in the story mode. But they relegated it to some boring battle mode in the final game. NSMB DS - Same as above, beta builds showed Mario and Luigi together playing levels from the main game. Yet again, this got relegated to a barebones battle mode. SMG1 & SMG2 - Could've done it no problem, but again just didn't try. NSMB Wii - First game to get it right and set the precedent for all future games. One of the many reasons this is the best NSMB game. NSMB2 - Only further affirms that DS could do it. A bit clunky in some more complex levels but definitely works well. All games after that pretty much copy what NSMB Wii laid out. Odyssey doesn't have multiplayer, but I guess the 3D game being 1 player has become tradition at this point.
One complaint about NSMB I have is how powerup variety is pretty much non-existant. Sure, you get a big/small mushroom, or the blue shell, but it's so rare you barely get to play with them! Also with the stiff controls of the game I'd be really glad if they put in some mobility powerup, like for example the raccoon leaf
Honestly, I agree for NSMB. I personally think that the blue shell should've been the main power up for the game (along with it also being a more common power up too)
The biggest flaw with Mario 1 was not getting a jump boost off enemies, like in 3. But obviously that came later, so it's not technically a flaw - but it's the biggest reason i don't enjoy playing 1 anymore.
It's fascinating I do prefer SMB1s ground, a lot more, but TLL ground doesn't look noticeable repetitive per block. Seems like they tried more advanced And still...The original comes off better to me.
I've thought it looked better because it actually looked like ground; like gravel, instead of whatever the first game's were supposed to be (yes I know the reply above said the same thing I didn't copy them tho)
Hi! I just stumbled upon your channel and didn't even notice this was your first hard-worked video until I read your pinned comment. Keep up the good work!
I wouldn’t say the Mega Mario power up making the level easier is a bad thing. The levels are hard. Having a power up that makes levels easier isn’t a bad thing. I instead have this complaint about the Mega Mario power up: there are levels that turn the Mega Mario power up into a power down. These types of levels are: 1) levels that have little or no floor (the sky based levels are a prime example of this) 2) levels that contain a lot of instant death areas (bottomless pits, lava and/or poison) 3) levels that have roofs, especially low celling levels 4) levels that have very few areas for Mario to transform into Mega Mario 5) levels that have breakable ground for most or all the entire level (there is one kind of breakable block that only Mega Mario can break)
Actually SMW has many power ups. You forgot about our pal T Yoshisour munchakoopas. -yoshi wings Allow yoshi to take to the sky. -Blue shell Allow yoshi to fly like the raccoon suit -Yellow shell Every time yoshi touches the floor dust appears around him. -Red shell. Yoshi can spit out fire. -SMW> SMB 3 More people prefer Mario world over Mario bros 3. Wait this isn’t a power up, this is a fact. A cold hard fact!
For Lost Levels you forgot there were a couple of Warp Zones that sent you BACKWARDS! Like the one in one of the levels in World 3 that takes you back to World 1!!
The first Mario multiplayer was awesome when you had a brother and wanted to spend the day playing together. There is a reason that only "retro gamers" complain about it and not the players that experienced the true thing when it actually happened.
I think it was cost point. As I recall, Zelda carts cost more to produce because of the battery, which I think also translated to a higher price for them in stores compared to other games. This was a big deal for some people, and meant that fewer games would be sold. If you didn't know how it worked, cartridges didn't have hard drives or any kind of permanent storage device. They work entirely with RAM. (RAM clears all data when power is lost.) So the way they actually saved your progress was by a little round lithium battery that never allowed the RAM to shut off completely, thus saving your game. (This is also how computers maintain the system date in their motherboards when they're unplugged. Even uses the same kind of battery.) The insane thing is that some of those old cartridges STILL haven't drained their batteries. (The batteries are replaceable, but it's not easy to open the cartridges to do it. Also, if you do, all your save files will vanish.)
Just sharing my own thoughts... SMB1: I don't think I was disappointed by the two player mode. Sure, being able to play at the same time would have been cool, but I still liked it well enough. No, the REAL flaw with two player mode is that it only switched if you died. It was entirely possible for somebody to beat the entire game without even giving player 2 a chance. Ouch. Lost Levels: Lot of fun ideas, but terribly punishing. How about those warp zones that take you backwards? how about how you can't access the extra worlds if you warp, but you never knew when it would surprise you with a warpzone down a random pipe? SMB2: So, did you know that before it became Doki Doki Panic, it was originally a Mario game? That's right, it started out as a future mario game before being adapted to a new property, before being changed into a mario game. It's why there were already Mario items like the pow block even before the conversion. I don't think people at the time were confused it was different. there was no pattern yet. Just look at Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., and DK 3. Nintendo was already known for reinventing the wheel with every game. A few more returnung features could have been fun though. I'd still love to see some features from smb2 return mixed in with traditional mario elements. SMB3: Saving would have been nice, but did you know SMB3 is the only 2d mario game without midlevel check points? The levels were shorter, on average, but I can still think of a few that could have really used it. SML: yeah this game was super primitive. I do love how weird it is though. SMW: I don't know if it's even true, but somehow the levels felt a little more samey than smb3. Maybe another new powerup would have helped. SML2: s few more levels could have been nice. the fact that you could go to the area in any order was a fascinating experiment. SM64: The camera was rough, yeah, but I still find it funny you can just get mario stuck clipping into random spots in the floor if you hit some weird collision. Sunshine was more linear than it needed to be. Making the water pump strapped to your back shout tutorials at you was my biggest pet peeve.
Some really interesting thoughts here! I'm seeing from a lot of these comments that I definitely should have thought through some of the games that I haven't played as much.
I mean, I wasn't disappointed by the multiplayer in SMB. I just accepted that that's the way it was, partially because I didn't have many years of seeing what else was possible under my belt, and partially because, well, I didn't play it with others much to begin with. That's a good question. I wonder if the original Japanese manual would have helped. I only encountered it in the SNES version, where they did more to differentiate Poison Mushrooms visually from the Super Mushroom and 1-up Mushroom. Thankfully, Super Mario All-Stars addressed the saving issue, as well.
People have pointed out that the manual would have helped, but I didn't grow up with these games so I wasn't sure if people actually read them back then.
I don't know if I fully agree with you on the lack of understanding of a poison mushroom. reading the manual was standard and you probably opened the box and the first thing you did, other than play the game is glance at the manual and see what new secrets are inside. So the jarring nature of a poison mushroom would be countered by reading the manual.
That's fair. I'm too young to have grown up with manuals before the Wii where they were a lot less useful, so I didn't really know if people actually read them back then.
My $0.02: SMB1: I hate how you can’t back up even a little SMB2 JP: I hate that it exists. Its level design is overtly anti-player. SMB2 US: Too difficult SMB3: Some levels are trolly SMW: I hate getting 95 exits and having no clue what I missed SM64: I think the N64 sucks, and the good games that it has are good in spite of the machine. SMS: No long jump. Immediate turn-the-game-off moment.
SMB1: technology constraint SMB2 JP: was specifically marketed as to players who thought SMB was to easy and wanted a challenge. it was specifically not for everyone. SMB2 USA: I didn't find it hard at all. anything in particular you found difficult? SMW: most levels with two exits are red dotted and ghost houses. I think one fortress in the last world has two exits and there's the notorious you have to fly under the first exit to reach the second exit. Edit: changed technology restraint to technology constraint. what is technology "restraint" even supposed to be? lol
@@scottydu81 what about SMB2 USA did you particularly find hard? also how was SMB1 scrolling not a technology constraint at the time? no one's making you get all exits unless you really want Autumn mode. you are probably missing the bridge one that opens Soda lake or the Ghost House that opens the secret area.
@ First, chill. I guess I always found the US SMB2 controls a little slippery. As for back scrolling, there is no reason that SMB1 could not have had back scrolling when so many games do have it except for a deliberate decision on behalf of the developers. With the exception of SMB2 JP which wasn’t even made for me, these are all just nitpicks of otherwise great games. It’s just annoying when I aim for 100% on SMW and I miss just one exit. That’s all.
@@scottydu81 sorry but for SMB2 USA I was just genuinely curious so you mentioning slippery controls is fair. I was probably used to them and used the slipperiness to my advantage. yes other games did allow scrolling not too long after SMB1 but at the time SMB originally came out they couldn't.
SMB2 is a lot more fun when you stop thinking of it as an official entry in the series and instead think of it as a bunch of Mario Maker levels the developers put out to screw with us. Plus unlimited continues is nice, and to me it actually feels more fair giving me hard levels I can try over and over, versus just limiting continues like SMB1 and Mario USA do.
I think the biggest NSMB drawback is a soundtrack. This thing can be used for torturing people. Also SMB2USA was ORIGNALLY planned to be smb2, just got bought back by that japanese television company and when TLL was deemed unworthy for the international release they just reverted it back to prototype version.
I'm surprised you feel so strongly about the NSMB soundtrack, in my opinion it works well for the game and is fine overall. And I had no idea about the history behind SMB2, that's actually really interesting!
The thing about these old Mario games for me is that even with the massive or low flaws they’re still fun or can be enjoyable I recently played and (forced myself) to beat Super Mario land Understandable it’s a Game Boy game but the game was very short and Mario controls feel worse than SMB1 but I can’t say I couldn’t find some enjoyment out of it
Okay, so this video is actually really good! WARNING LONG ASS COMMENT What stood out for me the most is how good your personality is idk I can just listen to you speak for a long time you got a really enjoyable voice candace and pronunciation even with the mic you use. Now for the actual feedback: (Remember I give of feedback of what I think, take it with a grain of salt and decide yourself I will probably say what I see working but it doesn’t work for everyone) Starting off with what most consider the most important part TTH (Title, Thumbnail, Hook) If you don’t make people care they won’t care. Simple Remember TTH work together. TT - attracts the viewer (shouldn't have the same thing) H- Restatates the TT so the viewer knows they will get what they wanted (and maybe more) Title: I See that YOU Don’t use a LOT of Capitalisation when creating Titles BUT it’s GREAT. The WORST Thing in EVERY MARIO Game > The worst thing about every Mario game Also consider how people read from left to right duh and the more they read they get less and less engaged. That’s why the most important words have to be first. Let’s do it that way the viewer reads max 5 words while quickly looking at the side bar, which video they will choose: The worst thing about every… OR Mario’s The worst part game… The first one because Mario is present in the Thumbnail and the second one sucks, trick question. I just did that to reinforce the idea of TT(H) working together. The title I would choose would be: The WORST THING in EVERY MARIO Game Remember you can always change titles, I know you did that with the Subnautica video. Thumbnails: You can test up to 3 thumbnails. I recommend doing that, it will choose the one that generates the most watch time. Here you have a consistent theme which is amazing but let’s say the same viewer from before stumbles on your video again but now he forgot his glasses and can’t read. Looking only at the thumbnail he might assume the video is about: -The worst designed thing in a mario game -Just mario the lost levels -Mario being a better design than the poison mushroom Etc. Most good thumbnails should have at most only 3 main elements Your has two (mario+schroom and text with an arrow) I would recommend including more than one game other than that I know you like simple thumbnails (I will post some on discord today) Hook: Typically the first 30 seconds to 1 minute of the video. I love what you did with saying the fuck word to Mario but it just didn’t pop as much as it could. Now I will explain one of the most important rules of storytelling and video creation SHOW DON’T TELL (hell yeah, *cheer*) It is really simple to understand but hard to master like it can be even used in speech. In the mario scene you could have added text and made mario react in some way. The best option is the one that requires the most effort: Find irl Mario, point middle fingers at him, say the line, add the text all for 1 second of content. Other than not using “show don't tell” the hook was perfect. The rest of video: I will spare you the reading and just say show don’t tell I you are saying something show it You have a great script but you aren’t writing you are making a video so show things not just gameplay. Like when you say multiplayer would be cool: show that The lost levels are unfair: show that Also when transitioning to the next game maybe have the box art/name shown. The ending: Here you encourage the viewer to watch more of you. The viewer as soon as he notices the end they click off. Your ending is almost 10% of the video so that is bad. You don’t have to go on for so long You kinda saved the ending with the due christmas joke but try to never take away from the video Also for the future one big upload that takes a week will almost always perform better that daily uploads for a week I can say more but I know this is your first time making this type of video and I don’t want to go too far and say you should remove the endscreen for maximum retention and to use the channel rabbithole (don’t worry about it, for now) I know you worked hard on this video and you should be proud because it is a really good video. Thank you for the daily uploads this month. They were amazing. Hope they were fun to make as well. Now go on and enjoy Christmas. Have a day when you don’t check yt studio or comments and just relax with your family. You have to eat some good food, no excuses. Hope this feedback was helpful and didn’t feel like a chore to read though. If you want I can probably explain most things more and add more feedback. Thank you again for the uploads! Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates and happy New Year as well. As always Have an amazing holiday/night
Thanks for the feedback, you clearly know a lot about this kind of stuff, and I really appreciate you taking the time to leave such a detailed comment. While It likely would be good to implement everything you talked about, right now I want to focus more on finding a style of this type of video that works for me, and that I can use to bring something new to the genre. I don't intend on making money from TH-cam for the next few years so I want to focus more of building an audience that likes specifically my content, rather than one who watches me as "another channel with this type of content". That being said I will absolutely apply most of your feedback on the next video I make, but I'll probably keep stuff like my end card and longer outro for now. Because with the amount of viewers I currently have they'll likely only barely effect my retention, and I like having small things that make the video feel like my own. I'm very excited to try something like this again and I already have ideas for future videos that are a bit more unique and exciting than this, and hopefully over time I get better at writing, editing, and voicing these kinds of videos. Also sorry if it seems like I don't use your advice much, I promise I do actually care about building my channel and your tips have really helped with that, I'm just bad at writing responses.
@@ryanshark6 The feedback is fun to give and don’t worry I don’t expect you to do everything I say or even anything. What is more important for me than feedback is inspiration so here I will mention some channels that are just unique and I love: (only mentioning channels that are similar to you in some way so I don’t type a whole Bible length comment) @AstroidmaniaVideos - he makes pokemon videos BUT he is a master at storytelling and editing, only he makes videos like that @CeaveGaming - Nintendo mostly mario, to be honest I don’t know what here is unique but I just never managed to find videos like these @Danidev - highly successful game developer that has an unique type of humor he sadly disappeared @Drengodr - gaming challenges, he has a unique personality that make his videos unique @raysfire - mario, a lot of humor chat engagement and modding That is all because I’m not mentioning channels that are unique because of: -animation (e.g. @GetMadz) -INSANE challenges (@Smallant) -and probably more Hope the path to finding unique content goes well for you! As always Have some bread 🍞
@@kszyrzfot I actually watch a lot of those channels and they're exactly what I was talking about. My favourite channel that talks about games is Scott the Woz, he somehow manages to be the funniest person I've ever seen while still being very informative and interesting.
SMB2-U Being different isn’t a bad thing and I doubt it was confusing for players at the time. The game is just different, just like how zelda 2 is different from zelda 1 and Castlevania 2 is different from Castlevania 1.
I not agree with every aspect, but this is overall a good video. I like it ! Maybe a mic upgrade ? Reminds me to some good old PatMac Videos. Stay positive !
Mario 1’s last level isn’t very good, Lost Levels in general isn’t very fun, some of Mario 2’s level design could’ve been better, Mario 3’s difficulty is all over the place, Land is too short, Yoshi’s arms are orange in Mario World, Mario 64’s camera isn’t good, and some of the required Shine Sprites are bullshit. The Chucksters are usually funny distractions, but have a whole mission based on them maybe wasn’t a good idea
Basically all the feedback comments in this comment section summarized into 4 words: Good video, bad mic (not critisizing people who made feedback comments btw)
You didn’t just say *all* NSMB games are aesthetically boring did you? I’ve only played NSMBW and NSMBU but I wouldn’t say they look bad at all. I’d argue the same thing as I would for the Paper Mario games; that it’s just an art direction people don’t like. Again, would not say either of those series look bad
I agree they all look pretty good, I was more saying that they all look too similar making them boring. Also do people really not like how the Paper Mario games look? I always loved how everything is contextualized as paper, and specifically the modern ones with the added depth of all the cardboard.
@@ryanshark6 ahh, I see what you mean now, thank you for clarifying lol Regarding the Paper Mario games I should have mentioned I was mostly talking about Super Paper Mario, so that's my bad, but in general I've heard negative comments here and there that it looks too simple. As for Super Paper Mario - which is the only one I've played, and I have played a LOT - it's usually something along the lines of "There's too many basic geometric shapes for characters and landscapes." I think it adds flavor to the game and makes it unique and I saw a video about it that I think does a great job explaining the whole thing, if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/tfS9SYPT-jw/w-d-xo.html (It's short, don't worry)
@@PinkSpaceDinosaur That's a really good video! I have a lot of love for the entire Paper Mario series (although I haven't played the first one), so hopefully I'll someday make a video on them as I have a LOT to say about the modern ones.
As I said in the video, I've never worked this hard on a vid before, so any feedback is appreciated. Just keep in mind that this video is very opinion based and may not even represent my full thoughts.
Also at 6:20 I meant creativity idk why I said curiosity.
I really like the custom captions
@@flak3z Thanks! I wrote a full script for this video so it was easy enough to just copy it in.
its a good video, but you have too much exposition going on. Everybody knows what mario 1 is you don’t gotta read from the wikipedia page for them.
`6:35 I'm sorry, but that's wrong. SMW had 96 EXITS. It only had 60 to 70-ish levels.
@PhillipsAlbright I personally think that kind of stuff adds to the video, I’m sorry if it’s not your thing though
Putting the poison mushroom at the beginning is the best place they could have put it. They have to teach the mechanic at some point, so it's better there than if you were further into the game
on one hand it definitely makes sense to put the trap that looks like a helpful item in a place you'd usually get the helpful item, but at the same time I can totally see it being super confusing and upsetting
I find beginner's traps like that to never be a good idea.
@@KitsuneYojimbo What I mean is, I don't think it's a trap at all! It's more of a warning shot to let new players know what poison mushrooms look like. There aren't really any stakes at the beginning of the first level since you won't have invested more than a few seconds by the time you find it. It's an invisible tutorial, just like how the first mushroom was designed in the first Super Mario Bros.
It's also a great tool for setting expectations! Normally you'd have to get stuck and die a lot to figure out just how difficult the game is. With the poison mushroom, it lets you know exactly what kind of game it'll be from the get-go. It honestly left me excited for the challenge!
It shouldn’t be there at all 🤷♂️ IMO tho SMB2 is just objectively bad all around, so I’m just being a grumpy butt
Doki Doki Panic actually DID start as a Mario concept.
Also, Super Mario World technically has six new power ups: Cape, Balloon, Yoshi and his standard abilities, Blue Yoshi’s flight, Red Yoshi’s fire, and Yellow Yoshi’s stomp. Each Yoshi can use all of those powers as well.
I'll say the balloon means almost nothing, it's in two levels only, just like the goomba shoe is only in one level in SM3. So I don't count that as a real power up.
The feather and the four yoshis are the real new powerups.
@ The balloon is in four levels
@@AndDeathForAll82 mm still too few to care about. But thanks for the correction, been decades since I played the game.
1:32 I mean if SMB1 didn't have multi-player I don't think Luigi would stick around
I also think they really wanted “2-player support” to be built into the big launch title for this system.
0:56 To be fair, this is how virtually every other game at the time handled multiplayer. The only way to play real-time multiplayer at the time was through LAN as real-time multiplayer required more resources than what the typical home console could offer, so most older games relied on a turn-based approach instead. People were very familiar with this type of multiplayer, as it was the same kind of gameplay that the majority of home and arcade consoles at the time offered.
Bro starting with an f bomb to not get marked for kids 💀
In the Japanese SMB2, I think the negative warp zones are even more sadistic than the poison mushrooms. The poison mushroom is something the game teaches the player about very early and it has a distinct appearance that makes it avoidable, but the negative warps punish the player for thorough level exploration, which is something that I don't think Mario games should do.
When it comes to Mario World I feel like the reason they only added one new powerup and kept the standard mushroom fire flower and star is because Yoshi himself. He’s the main gimmick of this game and utility wise acts similar to a powerup especially when it comes to the shells so they probably didn’t need any more powerups.
The cape is also has more depth than a standard Mario powerup so there’s that too
When the original SMB came out, I don't really think anyone thought the two player mode would be anything other than what it actually was.
Alternating turns was just what games were back then.
Not ALL games. The original Mario Bros (not Super) was simultaneous multiplayer. Duck Hunt (usually included on the same cartridge as Super Mario Bros.) was actually technically simultaneous multiplayer, too, actually. (The second player was able to override the computer's automatic duck flight pattern.) There were a few other games like that, too, including a lot of later release NES games.
That said, Super Mario Bros being turn-based didn't really surprise anybody. I think most people who got the game had already played it on the ubiquitous arcade consoles that were everywhere. We knew how it worked.
Seriously... they had these flat, glass-top table consoles for Super Mario Bros. at the front end of SUPERMARKETS. (More than once I played on those while my Mom went shopping.) And at many bars, usually next to or part of Pac-Man machines. I think lots of people bought the console so they could stop feeding quarters.
6:33 "exits". SMW had 96 exits. It has 72 levels. Don't get me wrong, still a lot
The Mario World one is kinda invalid imo. The four Yoshis (the normal Green one, Red, Blue and Yellow) are each distinct enough to be considered powerups, and seperate ones at that. So Mario World has 6 new powerups, not 2
In SMB2USA, Mario is the weakest and worst character to play in the game. Kind of ironic, I think...
I kind of see him as the base level character. Toad is super fast but has a low jump, Luigi has that unique high jump, and Peach has that float but she’s also slow.
Mario is just good at all things, not great, which isnt exactly bad.
I dont agree there, Mario's probably just the most basic and average one.
Yeah, I rarely used Mario in that game. I preferred Luigi
I'd argue it's toad, toad is very difficult to play with
@@victor-vyt oh hell naw, Toad's my boy
In a world of generic content creators, you are building the skills of a storyteller. Congratulations and best of luck with your journey!
Thanks! I've had a lot of fun making this video, and I'm hoping to start developing my own unique style and ideas over time.
The saddest thing is that the Card Mini game could easily have become a Password system.
I had a thought regarding Mario 3 and its lack of a save feature. I know the Warp Whistles _kind of_ fulfill the same purpose, but does anyone else think it would have been cool (and fittingly '90s gaming) if each of Peach's letters contained a 'Secret Message' that was a password that if input on a password screen would start the player at the start of the world the player would be going into when receiving said letter? Perhaps also starting players with the 'Jewel that helps protect you' that was enclosed in said letter.
The problem there is the variability in the power-ups in your inventory. If it was just running off passwords, you'd automatically start at the set map level with an empty inventory screen.
That MIGHT have been okay in some ways... but it'd still be quite disappointing. That was often the trade-off with the warp whistles... you can skip to (nearly) the end of the game, but you miss out on the best power-ups.
Incidentally, you can get the first two warp whistles in, I think, less than 10 minutes? The third one takes a little longer because you have to clear half the desert map to get to it.
Super Mario World has 72 levels. The menu counter shows how many exits you've found. Levels with a red dot have two.
Good to know, I guess that should have seemed too high to me but I've never counted them.
@ryanshark6 I don't blame you. Common misconception.
The game has 72 levels, but 96 exits (or 95 if I’m the one playing 😖)
It is not explicitly communicated ingame what it all means but it is something you can figure out. You can tell when you have cleared everything because the counter on your savefile while change color to essentially indicate 100% completion.
@elio7610 You also get a star next to your 96.
Even the manual gets it wrong. It says something like "the number indicates the number of areas you've found". 🤔
Finally SOMEONE who mentions that SMB3 doesn’t save. Luckily the GBA version fixes this because it’s waaay too long to finish in one sitting
We left the console on overnight. But, yeah, it sucked.
It's not too long. A real gamer can beat it in 40 minutes. An average one in two hours after some practice.
@@ninjaguyYT Playing it first time without warps?
@@ninjaguyYT well you can do it with the warps pretty quickly but you’re skipping almost the whole game. That’s probably the only time I’ve beat it in one go
@ninjaguyYT a "real gamer"? Get over yourself. Someone familiar or particularly good, sure. But it has nothing to do with being a "real gamer"
The Worst thing in every Mario game is Princess Peach getting captured over and over again then Toad says the infamous line sorry Mario but the Princess is in another castle
I absolutely hate Peach lol.
She's like the best character in Super Mario 2. I play as either her or Luigi. Luigi jumps the highest, but Peach literally floats.
At the time of release, SMB2 didn't actually seem that disjointed and out of place to American kids because we didn't know about SMB2J, and between SMB1 and other games starring Mario like Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, and Wrecking Crew, it just seemed like another interesting game starring Mario with a new setting and mechanics. It wasn't until more Mario games came out and a general formula was established that Mario 2 started getting a rep as the black sheep. Zelda II followed a very similar track. It was pretty well-liked back when there were only two Zelda games. The funny thing is I remember being more confused by the release of SMB3, I was expecting Nintendo to do something completely different again, rather than build upon the gameplay of SMB1.
Good point. As much as I try to look at these games as they were at their release, I didn't grow up with them so I still miss things.
My first exposure to Super Mario Bros. 3 was in The Wizard when the kids play it at the game tournament.
And that was amazing, too, because the movie showed us how to get one of the warp whistles.
@@Swiftbow I remember that. That movie was wild. I played SMB3 quite a bit earlier than The Wizard came out. Not sure why, but the Famicom version released quite a bit earlier than the NES version. My local video shop rented out the Japanese version along with an adapter.
@@BenjaminNixon NES ports had to be translated and rebuilt for the slightly different console. So I think Famicon always got earlier releases.
That's interesting your shop rented them out! I remember we used to rent VCRs when I was little before we finally bought one. But we never rented a game console. (Though we did rent quite a few games.)
Back when Mario 2 came out in the USA, the 2d Mario formula hadn’t been established yet. So the fact that Mario 2 was quite different to the original Super Mario Bros didn’t confuse players at all. It’s only from Mario 3 onwards that original Super Mario Bros formula started to be established and then retrospectively the USA version of Mario 2 is now obviously the black sheep
this was actually very common during that time where the sequel would have a noticeable different mechanic than the original. they could experiment to see what does and doesn't work. the original Super Mario Bros. 2 is essentially a hard mode.
The lost levels were ok. They certainly weren't the best Mario, but they really made me think about what I'm doing before I do stuff. I think the unfair elements are kinda fun, but I can get why others wouldn't like it. Also, the poison mushroom thing was kind of strange to me too, but I suspected it was bad because of the weird coloring. (It's brown instead of a vibrant red.)
Also, for your Mario Land 2 complaint, I think the 32 levels were kind of better than having 96 levels. I would've prefered at least 36 levels myself. I feel it would just drag on for a lot longer, and 32 levels is the same as Mario 1, and that game was plenty good with that many levels. I think the real problem with Land 2 is that it doesn't have as much content. It has, by far, my favorite level designs out of any old Mario game, but it still feels like you blow through them quickly. It doesn't help that there's no hard mode, unlike Mario 1. SML2, while my favorite, really lacks in the content department.
Otherwise, you did a great job making this video, good luck, mate!
9:22 I'm in full agreement here. I found the mega mushroom to be pretty frustrating to use especially as a pocket item where I want to use it somewhere but I end up only being able to go like a few feet forwards and not be able to do anything else with it. It was an incredibly useless item in that game. It seems to only work in locations where you specifically get one in a level. But if you have the power up with you in your pockets you just won't really have a good feasible place to use it.
I was 18 when new Super Mario Bros came out for the DS and I absolutely love the Mario games I grew up with in the 90s, but I thought that new Super Mario Bros was actually a pretty fantastic game especially with the fun multiplayer. But like you said that mega mushroom there's rarely a good time to ever use it
You playing Mario 64 with the original controller? Modern joysticks will fack you up for this game.
"Bad design" or "Things that are never a problem for anyone is a problem for a Gen Z n00b"?
I don't think you need to censor noob but ok
Its Leetspeak rather than censorship, but still just an attempt to aggravate.
@@TenositSergeich yeah I know, I’m not great at coming up with petty responses
A bit of info about the Poison Mushroom:
Even if placing one in the beginning of 1-1 in The Lost Levels was bull, the Poison Mushroom doesn't insta-kill. It actually just damages Mario upon pickup, much like damage from touching an enemy. So the Poison Mushroom is only fatal if picked up as small Mario.
Technically the mushroom is a Goomba which comes out of the ? Block and cannot be stomped.
@@MrSnaetch Ooh! That's actually kinda interesting.
With SML2, I certainly agree that there are too few levels.
My biggest beef is that there is no way to replay a boss level after defeating the boss (for that matter, you can’t even return to the introductory level).
It also annoys me that most secret levels can’t be accessed by the map. If you want to play it again, you need to find the secret exit again.
The second game the team made it for them. If you play that one you want to play the nes/famicom release as they made it identical to the first game and ruined or axed the bonus worlds on later releases. It’s supposed to be about fair challenge and patience but they added rng on Super Nintendo and other ports.
First off SMB (and Zelda 2!) graphics were incredible and amazing compared to what was on the NES up to those points. And of course Luigi would be second player if he was already in Mario Bros! The problem was that if one player was significantly better the other player would have to wait a long time to get their turn...hence why in All-Stars this was changed to either dying OR clearing the stage gave the other player their turn.
Forgive me if I'm going off on a tangent but there was a rule change in Candy Land for a similar reason. Originally if you got on one of the stuck spaces, you didn't escape without drawing its color (blue/red/yellow) and that would get boring to be stuck for several turns in a row. The rule now is that if you land on a stuck space, you simply lose/skip your next turn.
The interesting part about SMB2(J) (Or SMB: The Lost Levels) is the fact that They placed a infinite 1UP farm at the very begin of the first level on purpose
Interesting take on the Mario series, but I find it wild that you’d say Sunshine has imprecise controls, when one of the biggest talking points in its favor has typically been how fluidly you can maneuver the levels with Mario’s move set and precise controls.
I guess imprecise may have been the wrong word. I more meant that they're very hard to get used to at least for me, making them imprecise when I play.
Those multiplayer hacks of the old games are pretty cool.
... would have been a great feature back when there was anyone around to play them with, though.
The one thing about Super Mario World I hated the most was how slow Mario moved on the world map. It should not take so long to go back to a level in a different world.
In one of Jeff Rovin's How to Win at... books, he says the background graphics of 'World are especially impressive but expected more in the animation for 16-bits. On a related note, he called the graphics in StarFox "interesting" but people already used to 32-bit/64-bit sorts of flying games (like on the PC at the time?) might be a tad spoiled!
2:23 “how were you supposed to know that, exactly?”
gee, if only the game came with a book that explained all it’s mechanics!
I suppose this is what the term presentism is for.
3 and mario world dont have nothing bad. Theyre perfect and by the way... nobody was confused by mario 2 back in the day. It was the only mario 2 that we knew.
I love the controls of mario 64, they're not the best but after getting used to it i love the back flip jumping, long jumping, lounging yourself as an alternative to the long jumping but not as powerful version of long jumping, being able to stomp, having more ways of beating up enemies other than just jumping on top of them like kicking punching and some of the you gotta grab and throw, and the many optional ways of collecting a certain amount of stars is so perfect with those, the only really bad parts with the controls I think are the swimming but that could be fixed with mods if you play on stuff like sm64 pc port or coop ex which I would recommend to anyone since it pretty much modernized the game without changing anything major
I sometimes like to press on low view count videos covering stuff i usually find completly unrelated to me and see if theyre any good and oh my god this video was geniunly so enjoyable because you say how you feel about stuff honestly and you dont pad out your words to expand the run time and i really enjoy that (also the bad mic makes the video feel simple and nostalgic and is also very enjoyable for that :3)
the mic quality makes it better somehow
0:49 honestly my problem with Super Mario Bros is that too many levels are completely identical to one another. Especially when you actually beat the game and you take on the supposed harder mode where all the goombas are replaced by buzzy beetles. Because any two identical levels end up matching the later one to be identical because the later one is the harder one in difficulty.
1 - 3 is identical to 5 - 3
1 - 4 is identical to 6-4
2 - 2 is identical to 7-2
2 - 3 is identical to 7-3
2 - 4 is identical to 5-4
I honestly find this to be completely unacceptable especially when so many other NES games were able to have all levels be different. Including the very next Mario game having every level be different than one another with very limited exceptions like 7 - 3 being the same as c - 3 and 7 - 4 being the same as c-4.
5:21 i feel like you really had to try and dig deep for this one, because even though there are only 2 power-ups, yoshi in of itself is basically an entire new power-up, and considering how different colors of yoshis even have different effects, and the wing power-up for them as well, i'd argue mario world probably has more variety in its power-ups than some of the mainline modern mario games have had
Hey I did say it's my favourite of these games ;)
@@ryanshark6 thats fair lol, pretty good video btw!!
I appreciate one of these types of videos being super measured. I think the World trade off is that Yoshi equates to having new power ups
5:36 pretty sure most mario games only have 1 new power up maybe 2, SMB3 is the only game with 3 new power ups I can think of, and even one of them is just the upgraded racoon tail
I guess I was mainly talking about games after Mario World. Mario 64, NSMB, Galaxy, NSMBW, Galaxy 2, and Wonder all have 3 or more new powerups, and stuff like Sunshine and Odyssey have alternatives to powerups like nozzles or captures.
SMB3 has more, the flaw is that many have like one level where it was playable. Racoon, Frog, Boot, Hammer Suit and the Tanuki Suit.
something I don't get, people always complain about the penguin suit outclassing the ice flower from the get-go, even though it's essentially exactly what the tanooki suit did in SMB3 (unless I'm mistaken?)
@tzarg from what I know the Tanooki powerup in Mario 3 had the additional ability to turn into a statue which didn't end up being that useful. The penguin suit had a lot more benefits but I still think it's a bit unfair to criticize it since it's somewhat rare.
I feel like SMW’s lack of new powerups was so that they could develop the powers that they did add: Yoshi and the cape. In SMB3, I feel like they overstuffed the game with the Hammer, Frog, and the Goomba Shoe (which was only used in one level), as well as all those weird one use items on the overworld
Some of those power-ups in SMB3 are so hard to find that I literally haven't ever gotten some of them. Like the Hammer Suit. (And I've had the game since the same year it was released.)
What the game really needed was the ability to swap out power-ups on the map screen without losing the one you already have. Like the power-up swaps into your inventory instead.
When SMB2 came out, all my friends and I loved it. Sequels felt like they were supposed to be different. We didn’t put too much thought into it, we just accepted it. I mean, the controls were better, the graphics were better, the colors were brighter, the music was better, the levels were better, you could choose one of four players. It was a brand new adventure, and it was super fun. That’s all that mattered. ❤
A similar thought with my friends and Zelda 2. Our only complaint with that one was how friggin hard it was to beat.
To be honest, thinking about it Mario games don't have the best track record with multiplayer.
SMB1 - You take turns as Mario and Luigi which is fine to me, it was a still pretty early NES game. But I never understood why you had to wait for the other play to lose a life, to get your turn.
SMB2 (Japan) - Same as above.
SMB2 (International) - No multiplayer.
SMB3 - They improved and you actually take turns playing levels, wish they tried real time multiplayer. Though time constraints were probably the issue.
SMW - Works same as above, but at this point they were honestly running out of excuses. The SNES could definitely handle Mario and Luigi playing at the same time.
SML1 & SML2 - No multiplayer, but I guess they are Game Boy games after all.
SM64 - We all know multiplayer was planned, but time constraints and hardware limitations killed it.
SMSS - They honestly could've made this work if they tried, but I guess they didn't.
SM64 DS - This 100% worked, you can see footage from beta builds with 4 player real time multiplayer in the story mode. But they relegated it to some boring battle mode in the final game.
NSMB DS - Same as above, beta builds showed Mario and Luigi together playing levels from the main game. Yet again, this got relegated to a barebones battle mode.
SMG1 & SMG2 - Could've done it no problem, but again just didn't try.
NSMB Wii - First game to get it right and set the precedent for all future games. One of the many reasons this is the best NSMB game.
NSMB2 - Only further affirms that DS could do it. A bit clunky in some more complex levels but definitely works well.
All games after that pretty much copy what NSMB Wii laid out. Odyssey doesn't have multiplayer, but I guess the 3D game being 1 player has become tradition at this point.
One complaint about NSMB I have is how powerup variety is pretty much non-existant. Sure, you get a big/small mushroom, or the blue shell, but it's so rare you barely get to play with them! Also with the stiff controls of the game I'd be really glad if they put in some mobility powerup, like for example the raccoon leaf
Mario 6 golden coins has a problem if you get a game over you lose everything... that is a big difficulty spike after the first easy levels
Honestly, I agree for NSMB. I personally think that the blue shell should've been the main power up for the game (along with it also being a more common power up too)
It took me until this video to realize there are no mega mushrooms in any other New Soup games
I think maybe there are in 2 but yeah it feels like they should be in more
Yes there are Mega Mushrooms in 2 New Soup games
New Super Mario Bros (duh that’s where it was introduced) and New Super Mario Bros 2
it just wouldn't work properly in multiplayer I don't think
Awesome video, i appreciate the lower quality mic because it adds to the oldschool vibe that they's games have.
The biggest flaw with Mario 1 was not getting a jump boost off enemies, like in 3.
But obviously that came later, so it's not technically a flaw - but it's the biggest reason i don't enjoy playing 1 anymore.
One of the other issues with TLL is how atrocious the ground looks, like even for NES standards it sucks
At least it's one of the things that differentiates the look from SMB1
It's fascinating I do prefer SMB1s ground, a lot more, but TLL ground doesn't look noticeable repetitive per block.
Seems like they tried more advanced And still...The original comes off better to me.
Dunno, I prefer the Lost Levels ground more. SMB1 ground are just blocks with cracks in them, SMB2J looks like gravel or cobblestone.
I've thought it looked better because it actually looked like ground; like gravel, instead of whatever the first game's were supposed to be (yes I know the reply above said the same thing I didn't copy them tho)
@@UltimatePerfection after looking at while playing, I start to get used to it more.
Hi! I just stumbled upon your channel and didn't even notice this was your first hard-worked video until I read your pinned comment. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for checking out my stuff!
I could really see that Portal Song in a Mario Level
Good news everyone! I got a better mic from one of my friends so hopefully the next video sounds a bit better.
I wouldn’t say the Mega Mario power up making the level easier is a bad thing. The levels are hard. Having a power up that makes levels easier isn’t a bad thing.
I instead have this complaint about the Mega Mario power up: there are levels that turn the Mega Mario power up into a power down. These types of levels are:
1) levels that have little or no floor (the sky based levels are a prime example of this)
2) levels that contain a lot of instant death areas (bottomless pits, lava and/or poison)
3) levels that have roofs, especially low celling levels
4) levels that have very few areas for Mario to transform into Mega Mario
5) levels that have breakable ground for most or all the entire level (there is one kind of breakable block that only Mega Mario can break)
i think mario 1 controls are good tbh, my biggest problem is having to deal with hammer bros usually
Looking forward to the next vid! Hope u had a great christmas
I love how the low budget mic sounds and I'm not joking
Actually SMW has many power ups. You forgot about our pal T Yoshisour munchakoopas.
-yoshi wings
Allow yoshi to take to the sky.
-Blue shell
Allow yoshi to fly like the raccoon suit
-Yellow shell
Every time yoshi touches the floor dust appears around him.
-Red shell.
Yoshi can spit out fire.
-SMW> SMB 3
More people prefer Mario world over Mario bros 3. Wait this isn’t a power up, this is a fact. A cold hard fact!
Amazing music choice for the intro
Sticker star I swear has some of the most nostalgic music in any 3Ds game
I love this video, deserves more attention! But as some advice I reccomned a better mic but the music and gameplay is clear and good 😅😅
I've actually already got a new mic for Christmas, so the next video should sound a lot better
4:14 Massive? You Know What Else Is Massive? >:3
For Lost Levels you forgot there were a couple of Warp Zones that sent you BACKWARDS! Like the one in one of the levels in World 3 that takes you back to World 1!!
True I forgot to talk about that, those are absolutely insane
Loved this video, enjoyed your commentary. Merry Christmas to you!
The first Mario multiplayer was awesome when you had a brother and wanted to spend the day playing together. There is a reason that only "retro gamers" complain about it and not the players that experienced the true thing when it actually happened.
kinda odd that the first zelda had a safe system but mario 3 didnt even thou the firt zelda game was two years older.
I think it was cost point. As I recall, Zelda carts cost more to produce because of the battery, which I think also translated to a higher price for them in stores compared to other games. This was a big deal for some people, and meant that fewer games would be sold.
If you didn't know how it worked, cartridges didn't have hard drives or any kind of permanent storage device. They work entirely with RAM. (RAM clears all data when power is lost.) So the way they actually saved your progress was by a little round lithium battery that never allowed the RAM to shut off completely, thus saving your game. (This is also how computers maintain the system date in their motherboards when they're unplugged. Even uses the same kind of battery.)
The insane thing is that some of those old cartridges STILL haven't drained their batteries. (The batteries are replaceable, but it's not easy to open the cartridges to do it. Also, if you do, all your save files will vanish.)
NSMB2 is a slap in the face to the Wario Land series
Just sharing my own thoughts...
SMB1: I don't think I was disappointed by the two player mode. Sure, being able to play at the same time would have been cool, but I still liked it well enough. No, the REAL flaw with two player mode is that it only switched if you died. It was entirely possible for somebody to beat the entire game without even giving player 2 a chance. Ouch.
Lost Levels: Lot of fun ideas, but terribly punishing. How about those warp zones that take you backwards? how about how you can't access the extra worlds if you warp, but you never knew when it would surprise you with a warpzone down a random pipe?
SMB2: So, did you know that before it became Doki Doki Panic, it was originally a Mario game? That's right, it started out as a future mario game before being adapted
to a new property, before being changed into a mario game. It's why there were already Mario items like the pow block even before the conversion. I don't think people at the time were confused it was different. there was no pattern yet. Just look at Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., and DK 3. Nintendo was already known for reinventing the wheel with every game. A few more returnung features could have been fun though. I'd still love
to see some features from smb2 return mixed in with traditional mario elements.
SMB3: Saving would have been nice, but did you know SMB3 is the only 2d mario game without midlevel check points? The levels were shorter, on average, but I can still think of a few that could have really used it.
SML: yeah this game was super primitive. I do love how weird it is though.
SMW: I don't know if it's even true, but somehow the levels felt a little more samey than smb3. Maybe another new powerup would have helped.
SML2: s few more levels could have been nice. the fact that you could go to the area in any order was a fascinating experiment.
SM64: The camera was rough, yeah, but I still find it funny you can just get mario stuck clipping into random spots in the floor if you hit some weird collision.
Sunshine was more linear than it needed to be. Making the water pump strapped to your back shout tutorials at you was my biggest pet peeve.
Some really interesting thoughts here! I'm seeing from a lot of these comments that I definitely should have thought through some of the games that I haven't played as much.
I mean, I wasn't disappointed by the multiplayer in SMB. I just accepted that that's the way it was, partially because I didn't have many years of seeing what else was possible under my belt, and partially because, well, I didn't play it with others much to begin with.
That's a good question. I wonder if the original Japanese manual would have helped. I only encountered it in the SNES version, where they did more to differentiate Poison Mushrooms visually from the Super Mushroom and 1-up Mushroom.
Thankfully, Super Mario All-Stars addressed the saving issue, as well.
People have pointed out that the manual would have helped, but I didn't grow up with these games so I wasn't sure if people actually read them back then.
4:14 yeah, this game really is MASSIVE
I don't know if I fully agree with you on the lack of understanding of a poison mushroom. reading the manual was standard and you probably opened the box and the first thing you did, other than play the game is glance at the manual and see what new secrets are inside. So the jarring nature of a poison mushroom would be countered by reading the manual.
That's fair. I'm too young to have grown up with manuals before the Wii where they were a lot less useful, so I didn't really know if people actually read them back then.
It still feels like a straight-up beginner's trap to put one right at the beginning of 1-1.
@@KitsuneYojimbo yeah. so you know that they're dangerous
My $0.02:
SMB1: I hate how you can’t back up even a little
SMB2 JP: I hate that it exists. Its level design is overtly anti-player.
SMB2 US: Too difficult
SMB3: Some levels are trolly
SMW: I hate getting 95 exits and having no clue what I missed
SM64: I think the N64 sucks, and the good games that it has are good in spite of the machine.
SMS: No long jump. Immediate turn-the-game-off moment.
SMB1: technology constraint
SMB2 JP: was specifically marketed as to players who thought SMB was to easy and wanted a challenge. it was specifically not for everyone.
SMB2 USA: I didn't find it hard at all. anything in particular you found difficult?
SMW: most levels with two exits are red dotted and ghost houses. I think one fortress in the last world has two exits and there's the notorious you have to fly under the first exit to reach the second exit.
Edit: changed technology restraint to technology constraint. what is technology "restraint" even supposed to be? lol
@ SMB1: wrong.
SMB2: Imagine my shock.
SMW: I hate that I have to play all red dot levels to find what I missed
@@scottydu81 what about SMB2 USA did you particularly find hard? also how was SMB1 scrolling not a technology constraint at the time? no one's making you get all exits unless you really want Autumn mode. you are probably missing the bridge one that opens Soda lake or the Ghost House that opens the secret area.
@ First, chill.
I guess I always found the US SMB2 controls a little slippery. As for back scrolling, there is no reason that SMB1 could not have had back scrolling when so many games do have it except for a deliberate decision on behalf of the developers.
With the exception of SMB2 JP which wasn’t even made for me, these are all just nitpicks of otherwise great games. It’s just annoying when I aim for 100% on SMW and I miss just one exit. That’s all.
@@scottydu81 sorry but for SMB2 USA I was just genuinely curious so you mentioning slippery controls is fair. I was probably used to them and used the slipperiness to my advantage. yes other games did allow scrolling not too long after SMB1 but at the time SMB originally came out they couldn't.
good video!
SMB2 is a lot more fun when you stop thinking of it as an official entry in the series and instead think of it as a bunch of Mario Maker levels the developers put out to screw with us. Plus unlimited continues is nice, and to me it actually feels more fair giving me hard levels I can try over and over, versus just limiting continues like SMB1 and Mario USA do.
I think the biggest NSMB drawback is a soundtrack. This thing can be used for torturing people.
Also SMB2USA was ORIGNALLY planned to be smb2, just got bought back by that japanese television company and when TLL was deemed unworthy for the international release they just reverted it back to prototype version.
I'm surprised you feel so strongly about the NSMB soundtrack, in my opinion it works well for the game and is fine overall. And I had no idea about the history behind SMB2, that's actually really interesting!
The thing about these old Mario games for me is that even with the massive or low flaws they’re still fun or can be enjoyable
I recently played and (forced myself) to beat Super Mario land
Understandable it’s a Game Boy game but the game was very short and Mario controls feel worse than SMB1 but I can’t say I couldn’t find some enjoyment out of it
Okay, so this video is actually really good!
WARNING LONG ASS COMMENT
What stood out for me the most is how good your personality is idk I can just listen to you speak for a long time you got a really enjoyable voice candace and pronunciation even with the mic you use.
Now for the actual feedback:
(Remember I give of feedback of what I think, take it with a grain of salt and decide yourself I will probably say what I see working but it doesn’t work for everyone)
Starting off with what most consider the most important part TTH (Title, Thumbnail, Hook) If you don’t make people care they won’t care. Simple
Remember TTH work together.
TT - attracts the viewer (shouldn't have the same thing)
H- Restatates the TT so the viewer knows they will get what they wanted (and maybe more)
Title:
I See that YOU Don’t use a LOT of Capitalisation when creating Titles BUT it’s GREAT.
The WORST Thing in EVERY MARIO Game > The worst thing about every Mario game
Also consider how people read from left to right duh and the more they read they get less and less engaged. That’s why the most important words have to be first.
Let’s do it that way the viewer reads max 5 words while quickly looking at the side bar, which video they will choose:
The worst thing about every… OR Mario’s The worst part game…
The first one because Mario is present in the Thumbnail and the second one sucks, trick question. I just did that to reinforce the idea of TT(H) working together.
The title I would choose would be:
The WORST THING in EVERY MARIO Game
Remember you can always change titles, I know you did that with the Subnautica video.
Thumbnails:
You can test up to 3 thumbnails. I recommend doing that, it will choose the one that generates the most watch time.
Here you have a consistent theme which is amazing but let’s say the same viewer from before stumbles on your video again but now he forgot his glasses and can’t read.
Looking only at the thumbnail he might assume the video is about:
-The worst designed thing in a mario game
-Just mario the lost levels
-Mario being a better design than the poison mushroom
Etc.
Most good thumbnails should have at most only 3 main elements
Your has two (mario+schroom and text with an arrow)
I would recommend including more than one game other than that I know you like simple thumbnails (I will post some on discord today)
Hook:
Typically the first 30 seconds to 1 minute of the video.
I love what you did with saying the fuck word to Mario but it just didn’t pop as much as it could.
Now I will explain one of the most important rules of storytelling and video creation
SHOW DON’T TELL (hell yeah, *cheer*)
It is really simple to understand but hard to master like it can be even used in speech.
In the mario scene you could have added text and made mario react in some way.
The best option is the one that requires the most effort: Find irl Mario, point middle fingers at him, say the line, add the text all for 1 second of content.
Other than not using “show don't tell” the hook was perfect.
The rest of video:
I will spare you the reading and just say show don’t tell
I you are saying something show it
You have a great script but you aren’t writing you are making a video so show things not just gameplay.
Like when you say multiplayer would be cool: show that
The lost levels are unfair: show that
Also when transitioning to the next game maybe have the box art/name shown.
The ending:
Here you encourage the viewer to watch more of you.
The viewer as soon as he notices the end they click off.
Your ending is almost 10% of the video so that is bad.
You don’t have to go on for so long
You kinda saved the ending with the due christmas joke but try to never take away from the video
Also for the future one big upload that takes a week will almost always perform better that daily uploads for a week
I can say more but I know this is your first time making this type of video and I don’t want to go too far and say you should remove the endscreen for maximum retention and to use the channel rabbithole (don’t worry about it, for now)
I know you worked hard on this video and you should be proud because it is a really good video.
Thank you for the daily uploads this month. They were amazing. Hope they were fun to make as well.
Now go on and enjoy Christmas. Have a day when you don’t check yt studio or comments and just relax with your family. You have to eat some good food, no excuses.
Hope this feedback was helpful and didn’t feel like a chore to read though.
If you want I can probably explain most things more and add more feedback.
Thank you again for the uploads!
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates and happy New Year as well. As always
Have an amazing holiday/night
Thanks for the feedback, you clearly know a lot about this kind of stuff, and I really appreciate you taking the time to leave such a detailed comment. While It likely would be good to implement everything you talked about, right now I want to focus more on finding a style of this type of video that works for me, and that I can use to bring something new to the genre. I don't intend on making money from TH-cam for the next few years so I want to focus more of building an audience that likes specifically my content, rather than one who watches me as "another channel with this type of content". That being said I will absolutely apply most of your feedback on the next video I make, but I'll probably keep stuff like my end card and longer outro for now. Because with the amount of viewers I currently have they'll likely only barely effect my retention, and I like having small things that make the video feel like my own. I'm very excited to try something like this again and I already have ideas for future videos that are a bit more unique and exciting than this, and hopefully over time I get better at writing, editing, and voicing these kinds of videos.
Also sorry if it seems like I don't use your advice much, I promise I do actually care about building my channel and your tips have really helped with that, I'm just bad at writing responses.
@@ryanshark6
The feedback is fun to give and don’t worry I don’t expect you to do everything I say or even anything.
What is more important for me than feedback is inspiration so here I will mention some channels that are just unique and I love:
(only mentioning channels that are similar to you in some way so I don’t type a whole Bible length comment)
@AstroidmaniaVideos - he makes pokemon videos BUT he is a master at storytelling and editing, only he makes videos like that
@CeaveGaming - Nintendo mostly mario, to be honest I don’t know what here is unique but I just never managed to find videos like these
@Danidev - highly successful game developer that has an unique type of humor he sadly disappeared
@Drengodr - gaming challenges, he has a unique personality that make his videos unique
@raysfire - mario, a lot of humor chat engagement and modding
That is all because I’m not mentioning channels that are unique because of:
-animation (e.g. @GetMadz)
-INSANE challenges (@Smallant)
-and probably more
Hope the path to finding unique content goes well for you!
As always
Have some bread 🍞
@@kszyrzfot I actually watch a lot of those channels and they're exactly what I was talking about. My favourite channel that talks about games is Scott the Woz, he somehow manages to be the funniest person I've ever seen while still being very informative and interesting.
@@ryanshark6 why not make a video like his I never watched him so I will check him out later to see what's unique
Super Mario 64 is like the only Mario game I play
SMB2-U Being different isn’t a bad thing and I doubt it was confusing for players at the time. The game is just different, just like how zelda 2 is different from zelda 1 and Castlevania 2 is different from Castlevania 1.
I not agree with every aspect, but this is overall a good video. I like it ! Maybe a mic upgrade ? Reminds me to some good old PatMac Videos. Stay positive !
The Legend Of Zelda and Star Tropics had save capability
Best intro ever.
This feels like it’s from 2015 and I love it
Mario 1’s last level isn’t very good, Lost Levels in general isn’t very fun, some of Mario 2’s level design could’ve been better, Mario 3’s difficulty is all over the place, Land is too short, Yoshi’s arms are orange in Mario World, Mario 64’s camera isn’t good, and some of the required Shine Sprites are bullshit. The Chucksters are usually funny distractions, but have a whole mission based on them maybe wasn’t a good idea
Actually Super Mario World have the cape feather which wasn’t in the original Super Mario Bros.
Kudos for the accurate captions!
Thanks! I spent a long time writing this video so I thought I might as well add it in as captions.
hotel mario when?
Don't tell anyone that was gonna be the ending joke for part 2.
Basically all the feedback comments in this comment section summarized into 4 words: Good video, bad mic
(not critisizing people who made feedback comments btw)
Hey it makes is easy to implement :)
Good video man. keep up the good work!
You skipped Mario 64 DS
I don't personally consider that a mainline Mario game due to it mainly being a remake.
Can't wait for Part 2
invest on mic quality
trust me I'm working on it
There's no need to save the game in Mario 3. Once you start playing, you can't quit because it's so much fun
good video, but the poor quality mic makes it a little hard to understand you at times
Based using sticker star music at the start of the video
Someday I'll make a video defending that game.
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I would say sonics next if I'd ever played the games
You didn’t just say *all* NSMB games are aesthetically boring did you? I’ve only played NSMBW and NSMBU but I wouldn’t say they look bad at all. I’d argue the same thing as I would for the Paper Mario games; that it’s just an art direction people don’t like. Again, would not say either of those series look bad
I agree they all look pretty good, I was more saying that they all look too similar making them boring. Also do people really not like how the Paper Mario games look? I always loved how everything is contextualized as paper, and specifically the modern ones with the added depth of all the cardboard.
@@ryanshark6 ahh, I see what you mean now, thank you for clarifying lol
Regarding the Paper Mario games I should have mentioned I was mostly talking about Super Paper Mario, so that's my bad, but in general I've heard negative comments here and there that it looks too simple. As for Super Paper Mario - which is the only one I've played, and I have played a LOT - it's usually something along the lines of "There's too many basic geometric shapes for characters and landscapes." I think it adds flavor to the game and makes it unique and I saw a video about it that I think does a great job explaining the whole thing, if you're interested:
th-cam.com/video/tfS9SYPT-jw/w-d-xo.html
(It's short, don't worry)
@@PinkSpaceDinosaur That's a really good video! I have a lot of love for the entire Paper Mario series (although I haven't played the first one), so hopefully I'll someday make a video on them as I have a LOT to say about the modern ones.
I found it both funny and interesting, thank you for an excellent video!
How's Toronto treating you?
I don't live in Toronto.
@@ryanshark6 alr champ
I hate mario's EAR's in super mario World they look ugly and not pleasing to the eye.