As the description says, I wanted to experiment a little and put my thoughts out there on a topic I find interesting. If you're watching the video and read this comment then please let me know if the style and commentary are interesting to you. I'm thinking about making one on the Chesed floor next, though I'd need to finish their realisation on this playthrough first. In large part because his theme is pretty nice and I want more of an excuse to use the floors I didn't in my first playthrough.
one of the problems with tiphxodia is that, after the first act (where i assume you have activated it), you just obliterate everything, which is great and all until you realize it's not very effective for farming because you're not raising emotion levels from mass attack spam
Tiphxodia is good against a lot of enemies, not when fighting solo 1v1. Her power reductions can be removed by strength, endurance, haste and cards that immune to power related effect like Xiao and Distorted Yan (already hard enough for even Genbura floor)
My main point was because of how you can skip from emotion level 2 universal to 5 if you let everyone die which specifically let's you not have to deal with wrath. I'm not great at explaining I think and mostly throwing stuff out there y'know?
@@bloorb0569 i'm just throwing random info about Tiphxodia tho, also using Blind Rage early to kill other nugget faster and get universal emotion V easier.
Since all the Abno Pages are Red, Distorted Yan's Page might be good for this setup on Tiph since it gives Dice Power and later Damage increases when your Red Pages outnumber the Green ones. On top of Messenger letting you buff allies as needed. Of course, that means not running it in Chesed's Floor, where you can make Distorted Blade go BRRRR thanks to Cardiae and Clone. Also I can't remember the exact party, but there was a setup for building Negative Coins involving 3 Udjat users with Singular Strike and the "HP & Stagger Restore on Emotion Level Increase" Passives from Cecil and Mei as well as Kalos to grant Protection with his passive to further keep the party alive. The Decks were: 3x Opportunity Spotted (4 low value Dice, the last 3 having a range of 1, guaranteeing a Coin when they roll from hitting min/max) 3x Stigmatize (Free Negative Coin) 3x Wait Up/The One With Olga On It (low enough values to lose even with SS, granting double coins from the clash) Don't remember all the Passives. Only the few I listed and one to put on Kalos that you get in Impuritas.
Nihil only gets the bonus effect if you have no cards in hand, which can be hard to do with Tiphxodia depending on your Deck build. The one I use has a lot of card draw so she doesn't run out while trying to build, which makes using Nihil for anything other than a low cost Mass Attack nigh impossible.
@@espurrseyes42 its not actually hard, just use PT and give her just light restoration cards on pierce stance. Just be regular until you get fully setup
I run Unlock + Fiery Dragon Slash + Steel Knuckles + Any evade page of choice. Reason: Counter die + Strenght = win. Also go for Dong-Hwan's keypage to get basically no damage for rolls lower than 8.
@@bloorb0569 I meant: if you are at emotion level V with Tiph eqquiped with Dong-Hwan's keypage, the enemy needs to roll 8 or more (if resistance is normal) to deal 1 damage to Tiph. Because nix inflicts -5 to all enemies and the keypage gives 3 protection and stagger protection by the start of each scene. (Can combo with Udjats if you think it is not enough protection) To farm negative coins just lose clashes with nuggets and time their deaths to always be 1 death per scene (at a optimal rate).
@@Stanlaitiere How did I not know you could get this I have like 20 of them and saw Phillip had this page and went "Oh that'd be really good on Tiphxodia" I'm so stupid.
@@bloorb0569 oh by the way opportunity spotted (gaze office) gives a guaranteed 3 emotion points (1 per offensive dice) due to it will only roll 1 (min roll=negative emotion) or 2 (max roll=positive emotion) also due to low power you can easily lose clash and gain 3-7 negative emotion (3 clash lose and 4 min roll) on one card.
Ignore what I said about Stigmatize. What you REALLY wanna do is run some mid to low tier Key Pages on the Librarians for the low HP, then Deck them out with Opportunity Spotted and some of the Starter Pages, as these share the traits of Low Roll Values (easy to lose clashes) and low Roll Range (easy to get Min/Max Roll Coin, guaranteeing it if the Roll Range is 1), Opp Spotted in particular also having 4 Dice. Meanwhile, give Tiph some stuff with Counter Dice so she can get into more clashes, as her Emotion level is all that really matters besides Negative Coin. If you're doing things right, she should get to Level 5 on the 5th turn, and the rest of the team should be dead or at least close enough to where Wrath or Blind Rage (if RNG gives it to you early) should put them down. Nihil is also a must grab, as it's a low cost Mass Attack whose low numbers don't matter when backed by Tiphxodia buffs and debuffs.
Man today i beat the hell out of QoH and KoD with a bizzare tiph build Yujin page Carnival page (as a buff) Yuno page (buff) So the thing is we are going to toss every librarian at the grave to cash into sweet Strength points (1 + 6 + 3) and after that the only way to survive is to use QoH Love page and KoD page that changes Damage resistance. So you're not just a clashing machine but a whole self sustaining steamroller with the only cost of whooping Yujin BoD to the abyss
@@bloorb0569 tbf, it doesn't work that well. It's still 2 die with 3-6 and 3-7 roll so there's till a chance you would get only 1 negative coin and 4 positive coins, and even if you roll min and lose on those 2 dices, you'd only get at most 5 (or 7, dunno) and the chances are 1/16, which is a slightly better SR roll rate in a gacha game.
As the description says, I wanted to experiment a little and put my thoughts out there on a topic I find interesting. If you're watching the video and read this comment then please let me know if the style and commentary are interesting to you.
I'm thinking about making one on the Chesed floor next, though I'd need to finish their realisation on this playthrough first. In large part because his theme is pretty nice and I want more of an excuse to use the floors I didn't in my first playthrough.
Please don't overlook on emerald, it's rng but can be actually funny on bosses. (like skipping mass-attack/summation pages :)
one of the problems with tiphxodia is that, after the first act (where i assume you have activated it), you just obliterate everything, which is great and all until you realize it's not very effective for farming because you're not raising emotion levels from mass attack spam
Just spam counter for multiple acts or long battles, it just works.
Tiphxodia is good against a lot of enemies, not when fighting solo 1v1. Her power reductions can be removed by strength, endurance, haste and cards that immune to power related effect like Xiao and Distorted Yan (already hard enough for even Genbura floor)
My main point was because of how you can skip from emotion level 2 universal to 5 if you let everyone die which specifically let's you not have to deal with wrath. I'm not great at explaining I think and mostly throwing stuff out there y'know?
@@bloorb0569 i'm just throwing random info about Tiphxodia tho, also using Blind Rage early to kill other nugget faster and get universal emotion V easier.
@@bloorb0569 try Blind Rage to kill leftover nuggets faster and get universal emotion V easier
me using yesod
"yesod and my nuggets die after winning"
Since all the Abno Pages are Red, Distorted Yan's Page might be good for this setup on Tiph since it gives Dice Power and later Damage increases when your Red Pages outnumber the Green ones. On top of Messenger letting you buff allies as needed. Of course, that means not running it in Chesed's Floor, where you can make Distorted Blade go BRRRR thanks to Cardiae and Clone.
Also I can't remember the exact party, but there was a setup for building Negative Coins involving 3 Udjat users with Singular Strike and the "HP & Stagger Restore on Emotion Level Increase" Passives from Cecil and Mei as well as Kalos to grant Protection with his passive to further keep the party alive. The Decks were:
3x Opportunity Spotted (4 low value Dice, the last 3 having a range of 1, guaranteeing a Coin when they roll from hitting min/max)
3x Stigmatize (Free Negative Coin)
3x Wait Up/The One With Olga On It (low enough values to lose even with SS, granting double coins from the clash)
Don't remember all the Passives. Only the few I listed and one to put on Kalos that you get in Impuritas.
But have you tried nihil + tiphzodia
You only get 5 abno pages unless I'm wrong so that's not possible
@@hydrochloricacid7927 nihil is an ego page not abno.
Nihil only gets the bonus effect if you have no cards in hand, which can be hard to do with Tiphxodia depending on your Deck build. The one I use has a lot of card draw so she doesn't run out while trying to build, which makes using Nihil for anything other than a low cost Mass Attack nigh impossible.
@@espurrseyes42 its not actually hard, just use PT and give her just light restoration cards on pierce stance. Just be regular until you get fully setup
@@espurrseyes42 ah, forgot it was a mass attack not an abno page
I run Unlock + Fiery Dragon Slash + Steel Knuckles + Any evade page of choice. Reason: Counter die + Strenght = win. Also go for Dong-Hwan's keypage to get basically no damage for rolls lower than 8.
No rolls lower than 8 doesn't seem good for negative coin farming which is what Tiphxodia needs.
@@bloorb0569 I meant: if you are at emotion level V with Tiph eqquiped with Dong-Hwan's keypage, the enemy needs to roll 8 or more (if resistance is normal) to deal 1 damage to Tiph. Because nix inflicts -5 to all enemies and the keypage gives 3 protection and stagger protection by the start of each scene. (Can combo with Udjats if you think it is not enough protection)
To farm negative coins just lose clashes with nuggets and time their deaths to always be 1 death per scene (at a optimal rate).
I genuinely curious about why you are not using stigmatize and oportunity spotted. Haven't farmed them yet?
I did not know you can get stigmatise honestly where's it from?
@@bloorb0569 crying children
@@Stanlaitiere How did I not know you could get this I have like 20 of them and saw Phillip had this page and went "Oh that'd be really good on Tiphxodia" I'm so stupid.
@@bloorb0569 The wonders of ruina
@@bloorb0569 oh by the way opportunity spotted (gaze office) gives a guaranteed 3 emotion points (1 per offensive dice) due to it will only roll 1 (min roll=negative emotion) or 2 (max roll=positive emotion) also due to low power you can easily lose clash and gain 3-7 negative emotion (3 clash lose and 4 min roll) on one card.
Ignore what I said about Stigmatize. What you REALLY wanna do is run some mid to low tier Key Pages on the Librarians for the low HP, then Deck them out with Opportunity Spotted and some of the Starter Pages, as these share the traits of Low Roll Values (easy to lose clashes) and low Roll Range (easy to get Min/Max Roll Coin, guaranteeing it if the Roll Range is 1), Opp Spotted in particular also having 4 Dice. Meanwhile, give Tiph some stuff with Counter Dice so she can get into more clashes, as her Emotion level is all that really matters besides Negative Coin. If you're doing things right, she should get to Level 5 on the 5th turn, and the rest of the team should be dead or at least close enough to where Wrath or Blind Rage (if RNG gives it to you early) should put them down. Nihil is also a must grab, as it's a low cost Mass Attack whose low numbers don't matter when backed by Tiphxodia buffs and debuffs.
Idc it’s funny
True! I find it to be a really fun build even if I don't think it's worth doing for strength really.
When you finally get it, yes. When you are going through getting emotion levels, no.
Mountain of Corpses on a budget
Man today i beat the hell out of QoH and KoD with a bizzare tiph build
Yujin page
Carnival page (as a buff)
Yuno page (buff)
So the thing is we are going to toss every librarian at the grave to cash into sweet Strength points (1 + 6 + 3) and after that the only way to survive is to use QoH Love page and KoD page that changes Damage resistance.
So you're not just a clashing machine but a whole self sustaining steamroller with the only cost of whooping Yujin BoD to the abyss
Would putting someone on the team that can spam Stigmatize help since that produces a Minus Coin on use?
Yes actually, I was stupid and somehow didn't know you could get this page...
@@bloorb0569 tbf, it doesn't work that well. It's still 2 die with 3-6 and 3-7 roll so there's till a chance you would get only 1 negative coin and 4 positive coins, and even if you roll min and lose on those 2 dices, you'd only get at most 5 (or 7, dunno) and the chances are 1/16, which is a slightly better SR roll rate in a gacha game.
Sounds like a chemical