Tyreek in his 6.70 (2023 60m) was 3.90e + 2.80 (30-60).. if Noah doesn't clown around at the start like he did with Speed, anything over 30m should be a no contest
Did Noah clown at the start too? I only noticed it during the end. Altho admittedly i wasnt that interested in that race to begin with. Noah racing someone id never heard of before.
The thing people generally overlook is a 40 time in football is off of their first movement vs in track the times have reaction time from a gun. It makes the football 40 slightly quicker than it really would be in track.
Good point. It’s also kind of silly this is how they clock football 40s. As reaction time is relevant. Sure you know what the snap count is but there is still a reaction time from watching the ball snap to go. Seems more realistic to time their 40s that way.
Lyles and Tyreek should actually agree to have three races at the same venue - a 100 meter, a 60 meter, and a 40 yard dash, all spaced 30 minutes apart. This way, their competition would cover all the major sprint ranges except for the 200 meter. Both athletes would presumably be in great shape and shouldn't have to worry about stamina issues.
Tyreek has no hope in any distance. Sprinting at Noah's level has a degree of specificity that you can't achieve while playing football at a professional level. And even if Tyreek dropped football to focus only on sprinting (which he has no incentive to do, unless he's hit his head too hard too often), even with that, there's no chance he can compete with Noah in 2025 who's also been training hard. Athletics is a long game. It takes years of consistent practice to achieve running "just" 0.1s faster when you're close to 10s in the 100m. If an NFL player runs a 10.4s in the 100m on the track and with electronic timing, it's HUGE and really impressive. Noah can run a full 0.6s faster, that's around 6% difference. It's like running a marathon in 2h02 vs 2h09.3. It's the difference between men and women, that's how big of a gap there is between someone like Tyreek and Noah, assuming Tyreek can still run below 10.5 (he did 10.19 in 2012, ages ago).
@@B1gBossMan I'd love to see him compete with the best women in the 100m and see if he can win. That would be interesting. If he can still do 10.4/10.5 he'd win but if he slowed down to 10.7/10.8 he might lose
You forgot Bob Hayes who won gold in 1964 and played for the Dallas Cowboys as a receiver. He's the only person to win a gold medal and a Super Bowl ring.
Tyreek doesn't stand a chance against Noah. In more important news, did Noah confirm that he's focusing less and less on the 200m? Ngl, that's disappointing. With how much he's been improving in the 100m, you'd think that would also translate to the 200m. And Bolt's 19.19s 200m is arguably his "easiest" record to beat (not easy at all but much easier to beat than his 100m WR)
I don't think he meant laying off the 200m I took it more like he would like to take the 100m in this event because it's the one which most people watch
It’s funny you say that because you should see when the haters complain about his titles or using fantastical titles/ click bait. But yet they come in droves to view and complain. These trolls annoy me so I am glad you see the talent of his channel. I always have!!
@@TotalRunningProductions you put in the work ! I am a track and field fan! I subscribe to all the platforms that show competitions. I watch the qualifying/heats through the final of every event. I have always appreciated what it takes to get the human body in such shape that it could not even be compared to any other sport. Also, running and agility are at the basis of every other competitive sport. This channel does a lot to analyze and broadcast the absolute insanity of performances and the meaning of such performance. From % of an improvement to the steady improvement of performances throughout the years. I absolutely love this platform for the quality and the quantity of the diverse aspects of the sport in which I unconditionally support. Albeit when I competed first hand throughout High School and College in the Mid 90’s through the early 00’s. And even before that when I watched the 88 Olympics on the old CRT tube, fixing the bunny ears to get a better broadcast; and yet it was never 100%. I tell those who don’t understand my love for the sport to compare it to the basketball and football heads. The court side fans who shell out small fortunes for season tickets. Likewise, the same for football fans who do the same; but also have a culture of meeting up beforehand for a tailgating extravaganza. That is how much I love the sport and have wanted to be a part of it in anyway I can. For me, personally this platform helps me stay active in the growth of the sport I love so much. For most of my adult life I had to give up a lot of my athletic aspirations because I decided to start a family and they became my life’s focus. But I am slowly starting to work my way into fitness so I can compete in the masters events/40yrs. Who knows I may shock some people and be the 40 year old who is competing in the 2028 Olympic trials. Obviously not in a running event but in a field event where it would be more common to see a guy my age throwing a javelin or discus; whilst still being competitive. In any event, thank you for this channel bro. I saw you as a commentator at USA’s national history past indoor season. I would love to share my track knowledge with your platform in any capacity. Keep up the great work! The haters will eventually/hopefully find their own way!!!
Obviously Tyreek would get destroyed competing in Noah's sport. The same way Noah would look ridiculous trying to catch a 40 yard TD in coverage. Just enjoy the hypotheticals.
Ur correct only concerning Noah. Track runners that have decent enough football background can almost mesh into the NFL world seamlessly. Bob Hayes and Devon Allen are 2 examples. Even in pads they made everyone look like high schoolers blowing by lmao. Most elite sprinters mainly focus on running tho so those guys aren’t by any means the norm.
@@bigchungus2030 Why I specifically said “decent” football background😂 All the 100-400m guys on my old hs track team were football players. Devon predominantly focused on track by time he was in college and went pro for track. The gap in speed that makes him standout in the nfl was attained on the track.
@@minuteman3098 "standout in the nfl" has he played a snap dude. Obviously the track guys at ur school are gonna be football players thats just how it works all the athletic guys do both in high school.
That's how much and why the times have dropped. Hines was the last of the true dual sport track and football professionals. Neither are possible these days, at least not until the next Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders, maybe. Track is so much a science and the WR position has become very scientific and sport specific as well, especially with the muscle mass necessary for the NFL. But this should be a fun race because Tyreek is a fast starter so it'll be entertaining for a few seconds.
Track and field athlete should not be competing in the 40 m dash or 50 m dash if a athlete from another sport wants to compete in the athletics then they should compete at 60 m inside 100 m 200 m 400 m 800 m 1500 mthere is no 40 m in track and field
When a person in any given walk of life is challenged in what they've mastered - One can rest assured that the "challenged"will make the "challenger"pay with humility *
Bob ran 10.06 on a badly worn and pitted lane 1 of a cinder track to win Gold in '64. Such an incredible performance. Oh yes, and he had to run in borrowed spikes as Joe Frazier hid Bob's as a prank.
It should be remembered that Jim Hines ran sub-10 in Mexico which is at high altitude (2.24km) where the reduced air pressure causes less air resistance. Hines' first sub-10 time set a new world record but many fans of sprinting feel that performances at altitude shouldn't be counted as world records. However World Athletics (IAAF) don't have any altitude restrictions for sprinters, but any sprinting world record at altitude is marked with an A & they keep a track of those sprinting world records set at "sea level" (i.e. not at altitude).
Redraft the prediction model for slow starters with fast finishes. Noah and Tyreek would be fairly evenly matched at 40m. Head-to-head factors is what will determine the winner here. For Noah, protracting the distance beyond 40m will increase his probability of winning the event.
If you do that math for tyreek using his 40 time you get some pretty impressive projections as well. 60m - 6.5-6.8 100m - 9.75-10.46 Noah would obviously be favored but if he doesn’t take him seriously enough and tyreek puts in his best effort; you never know
I really hope Noah can make it to the LA Games and redeem himself. He'd be 31 and probably in the twilight of his Olympic career. Would be nice if he could get, not only the 100, but the 200 he probably would've gotten if he hadn't had COVID.
I think it's possible, he has to just stay healthy and keep running consistent times. Early thirties and sprinting at a high level isn't impossible. But having injuries or major setbacks will definitely be the catalyst of most people's careers. We've seen Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce and Michael Johnson ran some incredible times in their late twenties to early thirties and Simbine placed 4th in the 100m this year at the Olympics so anything is possible especially in this era of track and field.
I love your channel. Can you perhaps do some form of comparison or analysis for Deion Sanders in his prime? I sill regard his speed on the football field as being unmatched, and I think he did a few track races prior at FSU. Thanks.
Multi Sport performances? Hines reminds me of Herb Washington of Flint, Michigan. After he set the (still standing) world record of 5.8 seconds in the 60yd dash in the early 70s he was picked by the Oakland A's as a designated base runner and was officially responsible for 9 extra wins in 1974. His team mates never accepted him as a baseball star and he did not stay on long. I trained along side of him in the late 60's. He was a Sr. in Flint Central High School and was soon after called the "world's fastest man". I went to a neighboring school and actually beat him once...in my event (the mile) by about 1/4 mile; yet when I raced him later in the 100yd dash he beat me by about a 1/4 mile!
you should look up bob hayes he won 100m gold in the olympics in '64 and had a hall of fame NFL career. btw i'm not saying tyreek has a chance i'm just saying it has been done. i personally think noah would cook hill in a race.
"Millions of viewers around the world" dont kid yourself please. Maybe alot of viewers from the US. Outside of the US nobody cares about American Rugby. Im more interested in a race with other athletes within the Athletics community like the race between Warholm and Duplantis. Lets have Sydney and Femke throw the discus. Ryan crouser run the 400 etc. That would be fun to watch ❤
While you’re correct most of those numbers would come from the States, there is in fact a growing fan base in Europe. But yes, the majority wouldn’t give a damn.
So much this. The only time I've every heard anything about Tyreek Hill is when he is talking smack about Noah. For non-track fans he is a complete unknown outside of the US.
@@HamishGarland If you're a real track fan you know Tyreek Hill from the World Junior Champs in 2012 he made the final there. Adam Gemili won the final in 10.05
Christian Coleman and Noah Lyles win in general at 100m and 200m. Coleman more at 60m and 40 yards. Lyles at 100m (barely) and 200m (when at his BEST) beats all others. Way back in the 60s and 70s, Bob Hayes (100m GOLD in Tokyo 1964) was the top Track Star turned Football Player. Faster than Bo Jackson (4.13 40 yards and 10.4 100m) , or Darrell Green 4.09 40 yards and 10.08 100m! In 1960 Harry Jerome ran 9.9 100m by all 3 timers! But then they rounded it up to 10 seconds flat as they thought that nobody would believe it! Even Bob Hayes had a 100m where 2 of 3 timers had him at 9.9 seconds...hence the change to Electronic timing as hand timing had too much error associated with it. Harry Jerome tore his QUADRICEPS right off in 1962 at thye PERTH, Australia Commonwealth Games! Some Doctors did not think he would ever run again! He was young and the new surgery worked well. With it stitched back together, he got to walking, then running and back to track and had a BRONZE in the 1964 Olympics and 7th in 1968 in Mexico. Now imagine he doesn't have that INJURY! Maybe he beats Bullet Bob in 1964! I was 4 in 1964! Amazing he made the 1968 100m Final too!
@@fanaticsoccersuperTebogo has beaten Noah only once at a major final and twice if you include rounds. Noah has beaten Tebogo in every occasion in the 100m and 200m when he was healthy without Covid. It's too early to wrap that point up.
What I KNOW would happen barring Noah getting injured and not being able to run at his best is. At 40 yards Noah convincingly beats Tyreek. At 60 metres it would be utter destruction, and if there is a 100 yard or metre race it would result in the complete annihilation of Tyreek.
I love the art of story telling. The one piece of the puzzle that they always seem to leave out is that these football players more or less start out in tracks and then go over to football. Just another money making venture.
Not many in Europe and the rest of the world care much about American football to be honest. Unlike soccer as you call it in USA. But even if it was a famous soccer player I would not care at all to watch that.
Unfortunately, even when Lyles beats him in the 40, it will only be by a small margin, like .1~.2 seconds. So in pictures, it’s going to look super close although .1 in a 40 is a pretty considerable margin.
The cherry on the icing would be Letsile running in that 100m race and beating Noah in the final...better yet, Noah losing the 100m to a Jamaican and the 200m to Letsile!
Millions and millions watching around the world? You assume people outside of the US care much about football? Maybe we should go back to an older comment from Noah: "You know the thing that hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA Finals and they have "world champion" on their head," Lyles said. "World champion of what? The United States? Don't get me wrong. I love the U.S., at times, but that ain't the world. That is not the world."
7:55 Yeah, 4.01 40yd is not f-ing happening anytime soon, even if it's Noah. I think he could get 4.10 or even a bit lower, but there's no way he's getting .01 away from the 4-second barrier.
Just a foot note. Hinds was never a successful NFL football player. Although he was drafted by Miami he played on the practice squad mainly. Given the nickname Oops he played in on NFL game. Not like Bob Hayes as you know was very successful NFL wide receiver and the 1964 Olympics gold medalist. Who also broke the world record in a time of 10.00. He is a member of the Football hall of fame.
You should really talk about Tyreek Hills 200m. He got clocked at like a 19 something in highschool track, and it could be possible that if he ran the 200m currently he could maybe be faster than Noah in the 200m. This sounds dumb but it’s just a theory if you care to look into it.
If Noah does race Tyreek Hill then, even though Noah should win easily, he should insist that Hill is randomly drug tested over the 6 months prior to the race.
the fact that the 40m times are all taken from when they start not when they react to a gun u can shave another 0.1s off of Noahs times even conservatively which would put his realist 40m between 4.0s and 4.15s imo but regardless of that any way u cut it Tyreek is getting dropped and left
They are WORLDS apart when it comes to sprinting…Tyreek will just get his feelings hurt from the start. No chance whatsoever, sorry Tyreek just stick to football.
Tyreek is an arrogant megalomaniac. The Dolphins are no longer my favorite NFL team (of 50 years!) due to the team's official response to his traffic stop earlier this season. What a jerk.
It being said in the video that millions around the world will be interested in thore. I don't think the world are interested in this. This is more an American thing.
This match up doesn't compare to Michael Johnson v Donovan Bailey Everyone knew those guys but this American football player - Europe doesn't know him and it's of no interest...I think Bailey v Johnson was over 150mts and given Johnson was a 400m runner, most people knew the outcome. The race itself was a farce due to Johnson feigning injury as soon as he knew he wouldn't win. Bailey was some sprinter, last to first in Olympic 100m final Amazing
I'm an American, and Donovan Bailey was my favorite track athlete in that time period. Something about Michael Johnson made him unlikeable to me. I remember watching Donovan blow by him like he was standing still and you could almost see the reality set in that he was going to lose badly and sure enough he immediately grabs his hamstring like he was injured lol. The only injury he had was a severely bruised ego
only chance of success for tyreek is in a 40m match race... noah does not start fast in any race he runs in... but he closes better than anyone ever with the exception of bolt... but here's the rub... in the 40 there's just not enough real estate after the gun for the vaunted lyles after burners to kick in... so tyreek could pull that one off... but in the 60 or 100 he would be toast...
The old quality makes it look like they going faster😭
Legs spinning like wile e coyote
That natural motion blur
Tyreek in his 6.70 (2023 60m) was 3.90e + 2.80 (30-60).. if Noah doesn't clown around at the start like he did with Speed, anything over 30m should be a no contest
Did Noah clown at the start too? I only noticed it during the end. Altho admittedly i wasnt that interested in that race to begin with. Noah racing someone id never heard of before.
I agree. Hope he taking this seriously
@@Magnusfication speed got smashed in a race by a rugby player. Noah without a doubt was clowning from the first step
@Magnusfication he clowned around the whole dam race we are talking about a man who has ran 6.43
I don't think Noah clowned at the start. Speed just got a great reaction, and it was also without blocks so Noah wasn't super comfortable
The thing people generally overlook is a 40 time in football is off of their first movement vs in track the times have reaction time from a gun. It makes the football 40 slightly quicker than it really would be in track.
Good point. It’s also kind of silly this is how they clock football 40s. As reaction time is relevant. Sure you know what the snap count is but there is still a reaction time from watching the ball snap to go. Seems more realistic to time their 40s that way.
It’s more than slightly. Realistically, none of those guys in the combine are running under 4.4s…
Significantly quicker. .150 quicker in fact
Lyles and Tyreek should actually agree to have three races at the same venue - a 100 meter, a 60 meter, and a 40 yard dash, all spaced 30 minutes apart. This way, their competition would cover all the major sprint ranges except for the 200 meter. Both athletes would presumably be in great shape and shouldn't have to worry about stamina issues.
Tyreek has no hope in any distance. Sprinting at Noah's level has a degree of specificity that you can't achieve while playing football at a professional level. And even if Tyreek dropped football to focus only on sprinting (which he has no incentive to do, unless he's hit his head too hard too often), even with that, there's no chance he can compete with Noah in 2025 who's also been training hard.
Athletics is a long game. It takes years of consistent practice to achieve running "just" 0.1s faster when you're close to 10s in the 100m.
If an NFL player runs a 10.4s in the 100m on the track and with electronic timing, it's HUGE and really impressive. Noah can run a full 0.6s faster, that's around 6% difference. It's like running a marathon in 2h02 vs 2h09.3. It's the difference between men and women, that's how big of a gap there is between someone like Tyreek and Noah, assuming Tyreek can still run below 10.5 (he did 10.19 in 2012, ages ago).
@@MarcelloAntestaco true, but it'd still be a fun race to watch
@@B1gBossMan I'd love to see him compete with the best women in the 100m and see if he can win. That would be interesting. If he can still do 10.4/10.5 he'd win but if he slowed down to 10.7/10.8 he might lose
The 400m sitting in the corner: 🗿
@MarcelloAntestaco You're going so hard yet nobody ever said Tyreek would win. It's clear this is a spectacle.
You forgot Bob Hayes who won gold in 1964 and played for the Dallas Cowboys as a receiver. He's the only person to win a gold medal and a Super Bowl ring.
Always a treat to watch these 🤘
Tyreek doesn't stand a chance against Noah. In more important news, did Noah confirm that he's focusing less and less on the 200m? Ngl, that's disappointing. With how much he's been improving in the 100m, you'd think that would also translate to the 200m. And Bolt's 19.19s 200m is arguably his "easiest" record to beat (not easy at all but much easier to beat than his 100m WR)
it's because he knows Tebogo will now be (almost) unbeatable in the 200m.
@@bajanboy2553 unbeatable? So why did he get beat by Kenny Bednarek at the DL final?
@@bajanboy2553 as good as he is, thats not remotely true lol
I don't think he meant laying off the 200m I took it more like he would like to take the 100m in this event because it's the one which most people watch
@Astro2024 Tebogo probably ran double the races Bednarek did over the season.
Xavier Worthy would stand a far better chance of making this respectable!
Renaldo Nehemiah played for the 49ers and was ranked #1 in the world in the 110’s for several years.
Skeets!!!
he's been recruited directly from track where he was already a top performer ...
Yo I love your videos
Appreciate it fam
It’s funny you say that because you should see when the haters complain about his titles or using fantastical titles/ click bait. But yet they come in droves to view and complain. These trolls annoy me so I am glad you see the talent of his channel. I always have!!
@@TotalRunningProductions you put in the work ! I am a track and field fan! I subscribe to all the platforms that show competitions. I watch the qualifying/heats through the final of every event. I have always appreciated what it takes to get the human body in such shape that it could not even be compared to any other sport. Also, running and agility are at the basis of every other competitive sport. This channel does a lot to analyze and broadcast the absolute insanity of performances and the meaning of such performance. From % of an improvement to the steady improvement of performances throughout the years. I absolutely love this platform for the quality and the quantity of the diverse aspects of the sport in which I unconditionally support. Albeit when I competed first hand throughout High School and College in the Mid 90’s through the early 00’s. And even before that when I watched the 88 Olympics on the old CRT tube, fixing the bunny ears to get a better broadcast; and yet it was never 100%. I tell those who don’t understand my love for the sport to compare it to the basketball and football heads. The court side fans who shell out small fortunes for season tickets. Likewise, the same for football fans who do the same; but also have a culture of meeting up beforehand for a tailgating extravaganza. That is how much I love the sport and have wanted to be a part of it in anyway I can. For me, personally this platform helps me stay active in the growth of the sport I love so much. For most of my adult life I had to give up a lot of my athletic aspirations because I decided to start a family and they became my life’s focus. But I am slowly starting to work my way into fitness so I can compete in the masters events/40yrs. Who knows I may shock some people and be the 40 year old who is competing in the 2028 Olympic trials. Obviously not in a running event but in a field event where it would be more common to see a guy my age throwing a javelin or discus; whilst still being competitive. In any event, thank you for this channel bro. I saw you as a commentator at USA’s national history past indoor season. I would love to share my track knowledge with your platform in any capacity. Keep up the great work! The haters will eventually/hopefully find their own way!!!
Obviously Tyreek would get destroyed competing in Noah's sport. The same way Noah would look ridiculous trying to catch a 40 yard TD in coverage. Just enjoy the hypotheticals.
Us track fans know that 😭😭 we just don’t get why football fans think tyreek would slap Noah in a race. It makes no sense dude 😭😭
Ur correct only concerning Noah. Track runners that have decent enough football background can almost mesh into the NFL world seamlessly. Bob Hayes and Devon Allen are 2 examples. Even in pads they made everyone look like high schoolers blowing by lmao. Most elite sprinters mainly focus on running tho so those guys aren’t by any means the norm.
@@minuteman3098 devon allen was a football player for his whole life. It's not like he just decided to step on the field one day in college.
@@bigchungus2030 Why I specifically said “decent” football background😂 All the 100-400m guys on my old hs track team were football players. Devon predominantly focused on track by time he was in college and went pro for track. The gap in speed that makes him standout in the nfl was attained on the track.
@@minuteman3098 "standout in the nfl" has he played a snap dude. Obviously the track guys at ur school are gonna be football players thats just how it works all the athletic guys do both in high school.
Thanks
It’s interesting to see how “sloppy” everyone’s form was in the 60’s compared to now. Yet 10.0 is still impressive!
That's how much and why the times have dropped. Hines was the last of the true dual sport track and football professionals. Neither are possible these days, at least not until the next Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders, maybe. Track is so much a science and the WR position has become very scientific and sport specific as well, especially with the muscle mass necessary for the NFL. But this should be a fun race because Tyreek is a fast starter so it'll be entertaining for a few seconds.
At altitude though
Track and field athlete should not be competing in the 40 m dash or 50 m dash if a athlete from another sport wants to compete in the athletics then they should compete at 60 m inside 100 m 200 m 400 m 800 m 1500 mthere is no 40 m in track and field
No need to run those distances it's clear that the track athlete will easily win. You need to make it somewhat fair.
Yeah cuz they scared 😂
When a person in any given walk of life is challenged in what they've mastered -
One can rest assured that the "challenged"will make the "challenger"pay with humility *
Tyreek Hill vs Usain Bolt is like Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson
Not really. Mike Tyson was two months out of near deal hospital treatment at age 60. Tyreek would beat a 60 year old Carl Lewis easily.
Agreed, but I would like to see both in their primes to really compare.@@TheGreatness-gg1jx
@@TheGreatness-gg1jx Bruh!!!
The excitement of Bolt certainly drew massive viewership to the 200m,, correct....?
What does the standing high jump do for sprinters as a warmup?
Any news about Giday of Ethiopia,where is she,whats going on???
Better Example would be 1964 100 meters Gold Medalist, who became a NFL Hall of Fame Receiver with the Cowboys, Bullet Bob Hayes
Bob Hayes, what a legend..."he didn't so much as run a race as beat it to death".
Bob ran 10.06 on a badly worn and pitted lane 1 of a cinder track to win Gold in '64. Such an incredible performance. Oh yes, and he had to run in borrowed spikes as Joe Frazier hid Bob's as a prank.
And 9.91 in the semi with wind
Hi TRP, can you please make a video about Sifan Hassan’s 3 Medals in the Tokyo and Paris Olympics?
I love your videos
Since 1968 athletes became way more specialized in their disciplines so it's close to impossible to break through in a different one.
It should be remembered that Jim Hines ran sub-10 in Mexico which is at high altitude (2.24km) where the reduced air pressure causes less air resistance. Hines' first sub-10 time set a new world record but many fans of sprinting feel that performances at altitude shouldn't be counted as world records. However World Athletics (IAAF) don't have any altitude restrictions for sprinters, but any sprinting world record at altitude is marked with an A & they keep a track of those sprinting world records set at "sea level" (i.e. not at altitude).
Redraft the prediction model for slow starters with fast finishes. Noah and Tyreek would be fairly evenly matched at 40m. Head-to-head factors is what will determine the winner here. For Noah, protracting the distance beyond 40m will increase his probability of winning the event.
If you do that math for tyreek using his 40 time you get some pretty impressive projections as well.
60m - 6.5-6.8
100m - 9.75-10.46
Noah would obviously be favored but if he doesn’t take him seriously enough and tyreek puts in his best effort; you never know
great video
I really hope Noah can make it to the LA Games and redeem himself. He'd be 31 and probably in the twilight of his Olympic career. Would be nice if he could get, not only the 100, but the 200 he probably would've gotten if he hadn't had COVID.
I think it's possible, he has to just stay healthy and keep running consistent times. Early thirties and sprinting at a high level isn't impossible. But having injuries or major setbacks will definitely be the catalyst of most people's careers.
We've seen Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce and Michael Johnson ran some incredible times in their late twenties to early thirties and Simbine placed 4th in the 100m this year at the Olympics so anything is possible especially in this era of track and field.
I love your channel. Can you perhaps do some form of comparison or analysis for Deion Sanders in his prime? I sill regard his speed on the football field as being unmatched, and I think he did a few track races prior at FSU. Thanks.
Multi Sport performances? Hines reminds me of Herb Washington of Flint, Michigan. After he set the (still standing) world record of 5.8 seconds in the 60yd dash in the early 70s he was picked by the Oakland A's as a designated base runner and was officially responsible for 9 extra wins in 1974. His team mates never accepted him as a baseball star and he did not stay on long. I trained along side of him in the late 60's. He was a Sr. in Flint Central High School and was soon after called the "world's fastest man". I went to a neighboring school and actually beat him once...in my event (the mile) by about 1/4 mile; yet when I raced him later in the 100yd dash he beat me by about a 1/4 mile!
Can we appreciate how Noah lyles is marking T&F into mainstream pop
you should look up bob hayes he won 100m gold in the olympics in '64 and had a hall of fame NFL career. btw i'm not saying tyreek has a chance i'm just saying it has been done. i personally think noah would cook hill in a race.
Time to get it on!!!!!
I must say that as an Australian I have never heard of Tyreek Hill. Noah is globally incredibly famous
RIP, Jim Hines.
The real question is what is the difference in speed on football turf vs a track and field turf
"Millions of viewers around the world" dont kid yourself please. Maybe alot of viewers from the US. Outside of the US nobody cares about American Rugby. Im more interested in a race with other athletes within the Athletics community like the race between Warholm and Duplantis. Lets have Sydney and Femke throw the discus. Ryan crouser run the 400 etc. That would be fun to watch ❤
While you’re correct most of those numbers would come from the States, there is in fact a growing fan base in Europe. But yes, the majority wouldn’t give a damn.
So much this. The only time I've every heard anything about Tyreek Hill is when he is talking smack about Noah. For non-track fans he is a complete unknown outside of the US.
@@HamishGarland If you're a real track fan you know Tyreek Hill from the World Junior Champs in 2012 he made the final there. Adam Gemili won the final in 10.05
Indeed. Tyreek could go on holidays anywhere and go completely unnoticed.
Tyreek Hill's 40m dash is without a gun to react to so it's ~.150 faster than any track athlete's time.
It's a cash grab.... We will call it the rematch of Paul vs Tyson... Lol
Hines and Bob Hayes were track stars turned NFL players. Hayes had a very notable NFL career.
Hill has no chance in a 60m, his only chance is in the 40m where his power and quickness might be enough.
Hoping for a 800m race between the 2
Hey TRP do you mind if you provide where you get your background music
Car Lewis was the first sub 10 100m in 1983… Hines record was altitude aided as well as all the sprint and jump records in the 68 Olympics
Christian Coleman and Noah Lyles win in general at 100m and 200m. Coleman more at 60m and 40 yards. Lyles at 100m (barely) and 200m (when at his BEST) beats all others. Way back in the 60s and 70s, Bob Hayes (100m GOLD in Tokyo 1964) was the top Track Star turned Football Player. Faster than Bo Jackson (4.13 40 yards and 10.4 100m) , or Darrell Green 4.09 40 yards and 10.08 100m! In 1960 Harry Jerome ran 9.9 100m by all 3 timers! But then they rounded it up to 10 seconds flat as they thought that nobody would believe it! Even Bob Hayes had a 100m where 2 of 3 timers had him at 9.9 seconds...hence the change to Electronic timing as hand timing had too much error associated with it. Harry Jerome tore his QUADRICEPS right off in 1962 at thye PERTH, Australia Commonwealth Games! Some Doctors did not think he would ever run again! He was young and the new surgery worked well. With it stitched back together, he got to walking, then running and back to track and had a BRONZE in the 1964 Olympics and 7th in 1968 in Mexico. Now imagine he doesn't have that INJURY! Maybe he beats Bullet Bob in 1964! I was 4 in 1964! Amazing he made the 1968 100m Final too!
noah's not touching tebogo in the 200m, and i think he knows it 2:08
@@fanaticsoccersuperTebogo has beaten Noah only once at a major final and twice if you include rounds. Noah has beaten Tebogo in every occasion in the 100m and 200m when he was healthy without Covid. It's too early to wrap that point up.
What I KNOW would happen barring Noah getting injured and not being able to run at his best is. At 40 yards Noah convincingly beats Tyreek. At 60 metres it would be utter destruction, and if there is a 100 yard or metre race it would result in the complete annihilation of Tyreek.
BULLET BOB HAYES can shut this down. 2 gold medals and a Superbowl ring. This video is irrelevant to me
It better happen yo. If it dont happen, it will be cause of Tyreek and he better stop talking
Speed vs Tyreek would be a more interesting race in my opinion.
may be doping for everyone break the barrier.
Can you do a video on the Valencia marathon?
I love the art of story telling. The one piece of the puzzle that they always seem to leave out is that these football players more or less start out in tracks and then go over to football. Just another money making venture.
You can't compare a full time athlete to an NFL player - what a waste of time !
first the sprints, then let them run a marathon, see who is the better overall runner.
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Not many in Europe and the rest of the world care much about American football to be honest. Unlike soccer as you call it in USA. But even if it was a famous soccer player I would not care at all to watch that.
Unfortunately, even when Lyles beats him in the 40, it will only be by a small margin, like .1~.2 seconds. So in pictures, it’s going to look super close although .1 in a 40 is a pretty considerable margin.
There has to be an injury or sickness to Lyles for it to even be close.
The cherry on the icing would be Letsile running in that 100m race and beating Noah in the final...better yet, Noah losing the 100m to a Jamaican and the 200m to Letsile!
Millions and millions watching around the world? You assume people outside of the US care much about football? Maybe we should go back to an older comment from Noah: "You know the thing that hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA Finals and they have "world champion" on their head," Lyles said. "World champion of what? The United States? Don't get me wrong. I love the U.S., at times, but that ain't the world. That is not the world."
lyles in not great below 61m.
And there it is...Im out. Im done hearing about Tyreek Hill. All talk, no go.
bob hayes. all time best and hall of fame football
7:55 Yeah, 4.01 40yd is not f-ing happening anytime soon, even if it's Noah. I think he could get 4.10 or even a bit lower, but there's no way he's getting .01 away from the 4-second barrier.
Just a foot note. Hinds was never a successful NFL football player. Although he was drafted by Miami he played on the practice squad mainly. Given the nickname Oops he played in on NFL game. Not like Bob Hayes as you know was very successful NFL wide receiver and the 1964 Olympics gold medalist. Who also broke the world record in a time of 10.00. He is a member of the Football hall of fame.
You should really talk about Tyreek Hills 200m. He got clocked at like a 19 something in highschool track, and it could be possible that if he ran the 200m currently he could maybe be faster than Noah in the 200m. This sounds dumb but it’s just a theory if you care to look into it.
How would mbappe do?
2:18 this will eventualy be noah's downfall, and why he will never go any faster in the 200m
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Why don't you try an estimate from his 40m split? They had those
NFLfootball players are the greatest athletes.
In my opinion . In order to be a fair. Race. Noah and hill should race. At 10 to 20 meters.
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If Noah does race Tyreek Hill then, even though Noah should win easily, he should insist that Hill is randomly drug tested over the 6 months prior to the race.
If Noah wants to waste his time with Tyreek, I hope there's a large amount of cash involved.
Speed is closer to tyreek than tyreek is close to noah. I think he should race speed first.
I would pay to watch. But you are right. Noah wins easily.
Soccer players have the highest Vo2 max so idk goober soccer players shouldn't be counted out either
It's better to run slow and be a pleasant person.
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Coleman, Kishane and Oblique are better 60m guys.
I wonder who would be the fastest running backwards.
Unnatural and unnecessary.
Usain bolt
@@osuk1 Everyone has to run backwards sometimes, i think it is underrated.
Noah must just stop doing these exhibitionist races. He might as well race against a horse.
You know that actually happened a long time ago
the fact that the 40m times are all taken from when they start not when they react to a gun u can shave another 0.1s off of Noahs times even conservatively which would put his realist 40m between 4.0s and 4.15s imo but regardless of that any way u cut it Tyreek is getting dropped and left
Christian Coleman has faster 40M, 60M and 100M time than Tyreek Hill and Noah Lyles
They are WORLDS apart when it comes to sprinting…Tyreek will just get his feelings hurt from the start. No chance whatsoever, sorry Tyreek just stick to football.
Bob Hayes is a more suitable comparison, but he's another track star who went to the NFL, not a football player with near world class skill.
Tyreek is an arrogant megalomaniac. The Dolphins are no longer my favorite NFL team (of 50 years!) due to the team's official response to his traffic stop earlier this season. What a jerk.
Sorry Tyreek, your are not fast enough or young enough to defeat Noah Lyles in 2025.
They should get speed
Hes not even close to them
@antonriddoch8 ik hill isn't close to lyles but guess what they might still race
If I hear Tyreek's name, Im turning off the video.
You didn’t even bother mentioning the SLOWWWW starts from Noah. He’ll loose at least a 1/10 from that.
It being said in the video that millions around the world will be interested in thore. I don't think the world are interested in this. This is more an American thing.
Tyreek will get smoked by Noah
Tebogo said he is coming for the 100m gold...Kishane said he i coming for redmeption...Lyles aint winning that 100 next year...dudes are fed up...😂
Kishane has been dns. He hardly ever races.
This match up doesn't compare to Michael Johnson v Donovan Bailey
Everyone knew those guys but this American football player - Europe doesn't know him and it's of no interest...I think Bailey v Johnson was over 150mts and given Johnson was a 400m runner, most people knew the outcome. The race itself was a farce due to Johnson feigning injury as soon as he knew he wouldn't win. Bailey was some sprinter, last to first in Olympic 100m final Amazing
I'm an American, and Donovan Bailey was my favorite track athlete in that time period. Something about Michael Johnson made him unlikeable to me. I remember watching Donovan blow by him like he was standing still and you could almost see the reality set in that he was going to lose badly and sure enough he immediately grabs his hamstring like he was injured lol. The only injury he had was a severely bruised ego
only chance of success for tyreek is in a 40m match race... noah does not start fast in any race he runs in... but he closes better than anyone ever with the exception of bolt... but here's the rub... in the 40 there's just not enough real estate after the gun for the vaunted lyles after burners to kick in... so tyreek could pull that one off... but in the 60 or 100 he would be toast...
bro i dont care for tyreek hill. i think we need the noah lyes letsile tebogo 200m rematch
Lyles really gave up his wife in the 200m for glory in the 100m