the part where she called mel narcisist then said (melanie wrote dollhouse and her parents are nice but mine are abusive blah blah) is just like narcisistic
I don't understand why timothy heller said dollhouse was about Melanie's parents, melanie just made a song about family issues, just because she has that meaning to her song doesn't really mean it's about Melanie's parents
+If Melani was really guilty, Atlantic Records would have been unsigned her. She is not guilty, and Timothy is just a fake friend who prays for Melanies downfall.
@@senurimuthu Not to mention, wouldn’t Timothy have gotten a r^pe kit to gather evidence. (Not trying to invalidate any victim) but there are ways to gather evidence.
@@lucyy091 these allegations first appeared 7 years ago and she is still signed. And there is a lot of evidence that proves her innocence, so Melanie is innocent until proven guilty.
As someone who has been sa’d .. the last thing I would do is continue to go on tour with my assaulter. I was assaulted by my co worker, told a manger and quit for my own peace of mind. I was not strong enough mentally at the time to handle the comments or co workers finding out and any kind of talk about what happened. I left and never looked back. Whatever happened to him, I don’t care. The people in charge are aware, my friends were aware, The last thing I could ever imagine doing would be to put my energy into punishing him when it’s all out of my hands now. I got therapy and moved on and I pray that the people I notified took it seriously and handled it. I could not imagine years later still intentionally triggering myself online for strangers to see and react to..
A lot has happened over the few days i haven't been on the Internet apparently. The evidence from Melanie back then and Globelamps evidence now all lines up and I have a strong feeling that Timothy is lying
Both of these girls seem extremely toxic and just jealous of Melanie in every way in the texts back and forth. I’m not sure how I feel about the one girl is it globelamp…? Not sure how I really feel about her yet . I do think that Timothy is so envious of Melanie and her success she just wants it for herself so bad and no matter what…everything they said sounded childish and cruel. I’m sorry I just find everything that Timothy says very questionable and that’s as nicely as I can put it. Meanwhile Melanie has had some really harsh accusations made towards her. Idk … idk. I’m still learning more of this situation.
For sure. Globelamp is a questionable figure, and personally, I don't think she's a good person. But she is right about Timothy being a toxic friend and she has receipts to prove Timothy's guilt. Elizabeth likely realized she would no longer get the validation she needed from Heller and decided to expose her so that she could garner sympathy from Melanie fans. So yeah, basically a situation where both girls are toxic and attention-seeking, but we can see their true colours. Both Timothy and Elizabeth need to seek professional help. Their behaviour is beyond concerning.
@@rileysjonger4192I completely agree. It seems they both are Opportunist in my opinion. I’m still learning more of this situation but from what I have learned so far Timothy is scary jealous to me. 😟
I think she realized that Timothy was fake and only cared about fame which is why she now supports Melanie, she’s also talked about how sorry she is for talking crap about Mel
Ik Globelamp did some sh1t like she said one that Tag You're It encourages SA (which it doesn't) but she kinda changed and apologized to Mel I saw ppl saying that Globelamp is an hypocrite and did sum bad stuff but it doesn't mean she is actually lying abt Tim being a bad person. I communicated with her on Tiktok and asked her to make an vid explaining this situation again but she haven't replied my suggestion yet, but i think we should wait for her answer + Mel's answer
don't you think it's weird that as soon as melanie started to become viral for PORTALS and went on tour, that's when timothy brought it back up? I can't be the only one who thinks its weird. it could be out of jealously that melanie is thriving in life and that timothy is not. and also, if such bad allegations were brought against you that could not be true at all, wouldn't you be very harsh and defensive? it could be a natural instinct. I do it. I once had an allegation that I threatened to bully a girl very harshly in my school and i was extremely defensive and harsh because i wanted to get people to understand and the person who made the allegations to know that they weren't true. the girl they said i was going to bully, i had never met nor talked to before, i didn't even know she went to my school. all im saying is that i don't exactly believe timothy's story, there is a lot of holes and nowadays, anyone will and can get cancelled for anything because either the victim gets all the sympathy and beliefs when some people don't know the whole story.
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SURE TO BE REAL PROOF AND YOU ALWAYS SHOULD BELIVE THE VICTIM FIRST, I SWEAR TO GOD, THE CURRENT MEL SUPPORTERS ARE TOXIC PEOPLE WITH OUT FUCKING MORALS
I'd say one thing people look over is the fact if Timothy did get sa'd, why would she tell the internet? A bunch of RANDOM STRANGERS? If someone were to be sa'd they would tell a family member or a close friend. And then press charges. This all the more proves she's attention seeking.
she spoke out during the #meto movement, which was a trend where victims would share their stories and support each other. and if you actually read her story and i’m guessing you didn’t because you said how she would’ve “told a family member” which she did. timothy didn’t realize it was sa until years later when her friends said how it was concerning and was possible sa. she spoke out because she had no where else to turn, and don’t even bring up pressing charges and going to court because that is a whole another thing
@@xeryiii well "A whole other thing" is a logical thing to do. If she was sa'd which im still highly doubting she would've taken it to court given there's many things the police would've and will do if she decides to such as using forensic science, date and time, ect. The only proof she has right now is verbal along with about 1 actual photo. Another thing to add is yes. I have read the whole story along with finding out one of her friends supporting her and posting alongside her came out about a month ago admitting Timothy Heller is a lying manipulative person. If you're wondering who this person is they're called GlobeLamp. They supported Timothy at the start. Another thing to add is on many occasions the victim is found out to be lying all because they wanted to get revenge. There's more evidence to prove Melanie's innocence than there is actual proof of her being guilty. Sorry to say it, but im leaning more on Mel's side. If you're wondering who GlobeLamp is, they're actually named Elizabeth Fey. I find it stupid people aren't taking basic knowledge that its been over 5 years and she hasn't once told the cops makes it illogical. I feel like the only reason she hasn't is she knows there's no other proof than her own words. No offense, but until she presses charges im leaning more on Mel's side.
@@StayinFreshMarie i didn’t take it to the police, am i lying? but i don’t think you understand how hard it is to get authority figures to believe you, 50 out of 1000 sa cases get taken to court, that number is even lower when it’s wlw crime and dramatically even lower when your aggressor is a MILLIONAIRE. i’m doubting that you read the story but ill explain it to you; timothy (like many victims) didn’t realize it was sa untill years later
@@StayinFreshMarie and another thing is timothy quite literally CANT take it to court because 1 lack of evidence and 2 the court doesn’t take cases that pass 5 years, but melanie can absolutely still take timothy to court for defamation if she’s really lying, but she hasn’t
i feel really bad for believing mel if im being completely honest. after going thru everything again (literally everything lol) i still can’t help but find mel more believable but also the story that timothy is telling is very similar to my own and it hurts that i think she could be lying about it
Globelamp is not the greatest ally for Melanie's side. Many people speculate that she is just clout-chasing to gain sympathy and I am more than inclined to believe this opinion, but regardless of her controversies, she is right and has PROOF that Timothy is manipulative. Timothy mistreated Globelamp until she was no longer of any use to her AND willingly kept in contact with the alleged abuser of Globelamp. Maybe not in direct contact, but still. And I say "alleged abuser" because Globelamp herself is a questionable person. If I recall correctly, Globelamp was accused of being a groomer. And also, Globelamp claims to be a victim of SA, but apparently, the man that she accused of SA didn't actually do it. If that's true, then that shows that Timothy is guilty of lying or in the very least exaggerating the allegation that Melanie is a predator, because why would a victim (Timothy) support someone lying about abuse? The perfect victim doesn't exist, but for Timothy, it looks incredibly shady that she's under scrutiny for false allegations (something she vehemently denies) but yet retained a friendship with another false accuser. Birds of a feather flock together. On the other hand, if Globelamp isn't lying about the abuse and actually IS a victim, that just makes Timothy look even worse. How can you claim to be someone's friend but then willingly and sadistically be involved with their abuser? Again, the perfect victim doesn't exist, but EITHER scenario is WRONG. It makes Timothy look bad either way and I think the receipts are enough for me to believe that Timothy mistreated Globelamp. You can have your own opinions, of course. Take the accusations I said about Globelamp WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. The accusations that Globelamp is a victim of SA, is lying about SA, and/or is a groomer, are all inconclusive. From what I've seen, almost all of it is alleged and there is no definitive proof. What IS conclusive, however, is that Timothy is a terrible friend. Timothy mistreated Gloobelamp and she has receipts for it. This is just the "Frankie and Frankie's mom" situation all over again, where Timothy mistreated a child fan and her mother, before discarding the friendship. This is also alleged, but considering how there is evidence of Timothy being a toxic friend to Globelamp, I'm willing to believe the Frankie accusations are true. Regarding the Melanie allegations, I don't think Timothy is lying about feeling like a victim, but she certainly isn't one, and no amount of "victimhood" is justification for victimizing others. I'm also not entirely defending Globelamp, either. Because again, she has accusations of being a groomer, clout-chaser, and falsifying sexual abuse, and hasn't exactly spoken up. But I will sympathize with her bad experiences with Timothy.
Absolutely agree. Whoa I had no idea about some of this information though in regards to globelamp or ( Elizabeth) . That definitely helps put things in better perspective. Thank you for sharing this.
@@user-girlinterrupted Of course! I'm trying to spread as much factual information as I can because both sides (Melanie's fanbase and Timothy supporters) are spewing far too much misinformation and hatred. This is a morally gray situation, after all.
Globelamp actually has physical proof that he did, she just wasn't believed. He knocked her front teeth out and has photographic evidence on her Twitter page. Still doesn't make the fact that Timothy using her is God awful, even moreso with that information in my opinion.
Globelamp literalmente acosa a artistas hablando sobre su abuso, artistas como Mitski y Phoebe Bridgers cuando ambas la bloquearon globelamp se enojo e hizo demasiados tweets hablando que apoyan a su abusador, Thimothy nunca estuvo directamente relacionada con sus abusadores, para esa mujer cualquiera que no quiera escuchar su historia independientemente si es incómodo de escuchar o pq no les permiten hacerlo es estar del lado de su abusador, lo cual es completamente irónico pues ella se burlo de que Thimothy quería el apoyo de Marina. El ser un mal amigo no te exenta de poder sufrir un abuso sexual.
@@roogacha I didn't mean that, I meant that you need to find correct truth and that you need to support the victims first, gosh you need to learn morals
Tbh I don’t know who to believe anymore, because everyone is saying -“oh! Believe melanie!” Or “believe the victim” which I think is the right thing to do but still these are 2 completely different people that have done some things, but the best thing to do is just don’t listen to Melanie’s music and unfollow her during this situation
For me, I just can't believe Timothy at all. (Doesn't mean I'm choosing sides) But what I'm saying is, Timothy's racist, Melanie isn't Timothy supports Adolf Hi1tler, Melanie doesn't. Timothy says racial slurs, Melanie doesn't.
Globelamp turned against timothy just because timothy wouldn't support her anymore since globelamp had a restraining ordee since 2019. Timothy and Globelamp were barely friends.... Crybabies be creating false proof and shiet hahha 😂
Could you do a video on the “Child 🌽” Melanie was accused of drawing, and how it’s just a scrapped version of the Cry Baby album cover. Additionally could you also include in the video the Kewpie Babies, and how they are probably supposed to represent the song “Twins” and outtake for Cry Baby
people are allowed to draw whatever they want, nsfw art is a very common art form. she didn’t use it as an album cover, and blurred out anything potentially problematic/ inappropriate. leave her alone. the internet also wasn’t the same place 8 years ago, ppl just used to post whatever. Leave Her Alone.
@@willow-js6nmI love this message! I do agree with you ppl should leave her alone. I only think it’s the cover album (discarded) because of how it says “Cry Baby” which got many people to think it was her character. However I believe this was drawn in 2014, when Melanie was still recording the album. Cry Baby wasn’t originally gonna be named “Cry Baby” instead she was gonna be named “Melatonin” a play on “Melanie”. Cry Baby was likely gonna be a nickname. Songs like “Toy Chest”, “Coloring Book”, & “Animal Crackers” were names considered for the album, before Melanie chose Cry Baby. I made a concept for what the original Cry Baby album (plus deluxe) was going to look like. I also believe, that Portals was originally titled “Purgatory” and that it was going to be about Melatonin’s soul in the afterlife/purgatory realm. Which is why my other theory, about The Creature is that she is actually the ghost of Cry Baby. I also made a concept for Portals as well. My top-canon for portals is that Cry Baby and her friends entered the portal, but didn’t die directly. Instead they were reborn into new forms, due to their immortality, making them unable to truly die.
No es por ser mala onda ni nada por el estilo, pero trataré de dar mi opinión con el mayor respeto posible porque no deseo invalidar a nadie. Mi principal problema con la señorita Globelamp es este: ¿cómo se le ocurre pedirle a una posible víctima de abuso que comparta su historia (de globelamp) en redes sociales cuando sabe perfectamente que, en ese momento, Thimothy estaba sufriendo acoso, doxeo y un odio masivo? ¿Cómo le pide eso a una víctima que estaba claramente pasándola mal? En ese momento, Thimothy no podía ni postear nada en paz porque muchos fanáticos llegaban a insultarla y a invalidar su testimonio con tal de defender a Melanie. No solo me parece algo egoísta por parte de Globelamp, sino también insensible al pedirle a Thimothy que publique su historia cuando sabía que eso solo empeoraría la situación. Globelamp solo estaba pensando en sí misma y su beneficio, no en las consecuencias que eso podría traerle a Thim. Es cierto que repostear un tweet no toma ni un segundo, pero las reacciones que puede generar son muchas, y conociendo cómo son los fans de Melanie, es obvio que no iba a ser algo agradable para Thimothy. Apoyar a otra víctima no se limita a repostear un tweet; hay muchas formas de hacerlo. Thimothy dejó claro que, aunque no publicó nada, le brindó a Globelamp su apoyo incondicional y le aseguró que no la dejaría sola. Apoyar a otra víctima implica ofrecer apoyo emocional, estar presente, escuchar y comprender lo que están viviendo, lo cual puede ser mucho más significativo que un simple retweet. Ahora, esas capturas de pantalla que mencionas, ¿acaso demuestran que Thimothy no fue agredida sexualmente por Melanie? Esas capturas no prueban nada, solo buscan manchar el nombre de la víctima. Es completamente comprensible que Thimothy sienta desprecio por Melanie y lo siga haciendo. ¿Sería agradable para ustedes ver cómo su abusador sigue triunfando mientras sus fanáticos intentan silenciar su testimonio? Globelamp no es una fuente confiable para cuestionar la veracidad de Thimothy, y esas capturas tampoco lo son. En cuanto a lo que se dice en el minuto 2:14, Thimothy no está mintiendo. Hay dos testimonios, los de Stella y Gina Frey, donde ambas expresan su molestia por la actitud que Melanie mostró hacia ellas. Tal vez Melanie haya cambiado ahora, pero eso no borra el hecho de que se comportó mal con otras personas en el pasado. Thimothy tiene respaldo en este sentido al señalar que Melanie pudo ser narcisista, ya que estas chicas también la acusaron de tener actitudes prepotentes y groseras. Que Melanie sea tu cantante favorita no significa que, en persona, sea como tú la ves en pantalla. Recuerden que Stella y Gina Frey eran cercanas a Melanie; Stella la ayudaba con sus vestimentas, y Gina fue su maquilladora desde The Voice o su EP Dollhouse, ella creo los maquillajes de Melanie inspirados en muñecas. Otro punto importante es que no deberías confiar ciegamente en una persona como Globelamp. Si investigaras bien, te darías cuenta de que, en primer lugar, ella no fue amiga ni persona cercana a Thimothy; solo se conocieron por el tema de compartir historias de abuso, nada más. En segundo lugar, ¿con qué derecho Globelamp habla de preocuparse por el bienestar de Melanie cuando ella misma tiene acusaciones de agresión sexual contra una de sus parejas? Globelamp es una abusadora, misógina, manipuladora y una mala persona que, hasta el día de hoy, sigue silenciando a quienes intentan hablar sobre ella. Es irónico que un abusador defienda a otro abusador. ¿De verdad creen que a Globelamp le importa como esta Melanie?, ¿De verdad piensan que a Globelamp le interesa limpiar la reputación de Melanie? a ella solo le agrada la idea de tener atención, TIENE ANTECEDENTES ASÍ. Globelamp tiene un historial de difamar y mandar odio a mujeres y personas que no querían compartir su historia de abuso o promocionar su música. Las personas que compartían su historia lo hacían con miedo, sabiendo lo peligrosa y tóxica que es Globelamp. Ella tiene varias víctimas, y a todo aquel que trata de hablar de ella, Globelamp intenta callarlo con sus multicuentas. Lo mismo que hizo con Thimothy, lo ha hecho con otras personas. Globelamp no es una persona de fiar, y su testimonio sobre Thimothy no es confiable. Ella no estuvo en el lugar de los hechos para asegurar que Melanie no es una abusadora; Globelamp habla desde su experiencia personal con Thimothy, y conociendo sus antecedentes, no merece que la usen como principal prueba de que Thimothy miente. por favor, revisen estos links sobre Globelamp: 1) pitchfork.com/news/foxygens-sam-france-and-ex-bandmate-elizabeth-le-fey-trade-domestic-violence-claims-in-court-and-online/ 2) x.com/TheldlerWheel/status/1161835497787928576 PD: Habia una página llamada "Survivors of globelamp" pero parece que Globelamp la hizo caer
@@ChlozoAnimates Please explain to me why you think Timothy lied about something so serious. Timothy never changed his version of the story and he was denouncing this for years. What is your defense to argue that Timothy is lying?
Thx alot sending love in many ways I thank you for the amount of evidence you gavs us but in future videos of proof can you maybe..talk abt the supposed other three victims of melanie?…
I'm sorry, what three victims? I heard that there was another woman who accused Melanie of SA, but there was no proof. However, I don't know who this woman was. Could you lend me a source for the other alleged victims?
Soy una fan de melanie pero porque nunca ponen el screenshot de globelamp diciendo que nunca estuvo en el lugar para saber qu pasó?? Solo ellas saben q sucedió, ni globelamp nibterceros lo saben
people will believe ANYONE but the victims in this is proof, has anyone done any digging on globelamp?? like even the slightest bit of research you can find how absolutely crazy she is, first i’d like to point that she’s an abuser herself and her ex got a restraining order against her (begging for yall to atleast look into that) and look into the pages of people who’s she’s dissed on the internet
Just because someone is a horrible person doesn't mean they're lying. I mean, look at Timothy, she's racist, said good things about Hitl3r, said the N-word on several occasions, said things about the devil, let a 12-year old make her an OF banner and so much more.
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the part where she called mel narcisist then said (melanie wrote dollhouse and her parents are nice but mine are abusive blah blah) is just like narcisistic
I don't understand why timothy heller said dollhouse was about Melanie's parents, melanie just made a song about family issues, just because she has that meaning to her song doesn't really mean it's about Melanie's parents
@@angelceja9093 ikr shes so annoying bro mel writes songs about trauma to make people feel safe
Exactly (btw, I love your Joost pfp 💙)
Thanks! (This is my other acc) @@little_rotten_girl222
mel clearly has too many emotions to even be a narcissist,come on. Narcissists don't tend to feel hardly anything.
+If Melani was really guilty, Atlantic Records would have been unsigned her. She is not guilty, and Timothy is just a fake friend who prays for Melanies downfall.
I agree. If the allegations were true, then wouldn’t Melanie be kicked out of her label already…like
@@CC_Clara fr , timothy trying to get attention so bad
yh but they are allegations so ig they investigating or smt?
@@senurimuthu Not to mention, wouldn’t Timothy have gotten a r^pe kit to gather evidence. (Not trying to invalidate any victim) but there are ways to gather evidence.
@@lucyy091 these allegations first appeared 7 years ago and she is still signed. And there is a lot of evidence that proves her innocence, so Melanie is innocent until proven guilty.
As someone who has been sa’d .. the last thing I would do is continue to go on tour with my assaulter. I was assaulted by my co worker, told a manger and quit for my own peace of mind. I was not strong enough mentally at the time to handle the comments or co workers finding out and any kind of talk about what happened. I left and never looked back. Whatever happened to him, I don’t care. The people in charge are aware, my friends were aware, The last thing I could ever imagine doing would be to put my energy into punishing him when it’s all out of my hands now. I got therapy and moved on and I pray that the people I notified took it seriously and handled it. I could not imagine years later still intentionally triggering myself online for strangers to see and react to..
A lot has happened over the few days i haven't been on the Internet apparently. The evidence from Melanie back then and Globelamps evidence now all lines up and I have a strong feeling that Timothy is lying
Both of these girls seem extremely toxic and just jealous of Melanie in every way in the texts back and forth. I’m not sure how I feel about the one girl is it globelamp…? Not sure how I really feel about her yet . I do think that Timothy is so envious of Melanie and her success she just wants it for herself so bad and no matter what…everything they said sounded childish and cruel. I’m sorry I just find everything that Timothy says very questionable and that’s as nicely as I can put it. Meanwhile Melanie has had some really harsh accusations made towards her. Idk … idk. I’m still learning more of this situation.
For sure. Globelamp is a questionable figure, and personally, I don't think she's a good person. But she is right about Timothy being a toxic friend and she has receipts to prove Timothy's guilt. Elizabeth likely realized she would no longer get the validation she needed from Heller and decided to expose her so that she could garner sympathy from Melanie fans. So yeah, basically a situation where both girls are toxic and attention-seeking, but we can see their true colours. Both Timothy and Elizabeth need to seek professional help. Their behaviour is beyond concerning.
@@rileysjonger4192I completely agree. It seems they both are Opportunist in my opinion. I’m still learning more of this situation but from what I have learned so far Timothy is scary jealous to me. 😟
I think she realized that Timothy was fake and only cared about fame which is why she now supports Melanie, she’s also talked about how sorry she is for talking crap about Mel
Ik Globelamp did some sh1t like she said one that Tag You're It encourages SA (which it doesn't) but she kinda changed and apologized to Mel
I saw ppl saying that Globelamp is an hypocrite and did sum bad stuff but it doesn't mean she is actually lying abt Tim being a bad person. I communicated with her on Tiktok and asked her to make an vid explaining this situation again but she haven't replied my suggestion yet, but i think we should wait for her answer + Mel's answer
don't you think it's weird that as soon as melanie started to become viral for PORTALS and went on tour, that's when timothy brought it back up? I can't be the only one who thinks its weird. it could be out of jealously that melanie is thriving in life and that timothy is not. and also, if such bad allegations were brought against you that could not be true at all, wouldn't you be very harsh and defensive? it could be a natural instinct. I do it. I once had an allegation that I threatened to bully a girl very harshly in my school and i was extremely defensive and harsh because i wanted to get people to understand and the person who made the allegations to know that they weren't true. the girl they said i was going to bully, i had never met nor talked to before, i didn't even know she went to my school. all im saying is that i don't exactly believe timothy's story, there is a lot of holes and nowadays, anyone will and can get cancelled for anything because either the victim gets all the sympathy and beliefs when some people don't know the whole story.
And so many people still choose to believe Timothy! We have to spread these screenshots around for the people who think Timothy’s saying the truth.
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SURE TO BE REAL PROOF AND YOU ALWAYS SHOULD BELIVE THE VICTIM FIRST, I SWEAR TO GOD, THE CURRENT MEL SUPPORTERS ARE TOXIC PEOPLE WITH OUT FUCKING MORALS
@@SalmonellaXXas a mel fan i fucking agree with you- (i haven't picked either side i just don't know who the fuck to believe at this point)
@@Nightmarecatxgamer Finally someone, thank you!
I don’t think globelamp is the best resource to use to prove Melanie’s innocence
There's nothing we can do about it sadly
I'd say one thing people look over is the fact if Timothy did get sa'd, why would she tell the internet? A bunch of RANDOM STRANGERS? If someone were to be sa'd they would tell a family member or a close friend. And then press charges. This all the more proves she's attention seeking.
the only reason she came out about it was cuz of the metoo movement she was just doing what everyone else was u just want to silence victims
she spoke out during the #meto movement, which was a trend where victims would share their stories and support each other. and if you actually read her story and i’m guessing you didn’t because you said how she would’ve “told a family member” which she did. timothy didn’t realize it was sa until years later when her friends said how it was concerning and was possible sa. she spoke out because she had no where else to turn, and don’t even bring up pressing charges and going to court because that is a whole another thing
@@xeryiii well "A whole other thing" is a logical thing to do. If she was sa'd which im still highly doubting she would've taken it to court given there's many things the police would've and will do if she decides to such as using forensic science, date and time, ect. The only proof she has right now is verbal along with about 1 actual photo. Another thing to add is yes. I have read the whole story along with finding out one of her friends supporting her and posting alongside her came out about a month ago admitting Timothy Heller is a lying manipulative person. If you're wondering who this person is they're called GlobeLamp. They supported Timothy at the start. Another thing to add is on many occasions the victim is found out to be lying all because they wanted to get revenge. There's more evidence to prove Melanie's innocence than there is actual proof of her being guilty. Sorry to say it, but im leaning more on Mel's side. If you're wondering who GlobeLamp is, they're actually named Elizabeth Fey. I find it stupid people aren't taking basic knowledge that its been over 5 years and she hasn't once told the cops makes it illogical. I feel like the only reason she hasn't is she knows there's no other proof than her own words. No offense, but until she presses charges im leaning more on Mel's side.
@@StayinFreshMarie i didn’t take it to the police, am i lying? but i don’t think you understand how hard it is to get authority figures to believe you, 50 out of 1000 sa cases get taken to court, that number is even lower when it’s wlw crime and dramatically even lower when your aggressor is a MILLIONAIRE. i’m doubting that you read the story but ill explain it to you; timothy (like many victims) didn’t realize it was sa untill years later
@@StayinFreshMarie and another thing is timothy quite literally CANT take it to court because 1 lack of evidence and 2 the court doesn’t take cases that pass 5 years, but melanie can absolutely still take timothy to court for defamation if she’s really lying, but she hasn’t
i feel really bad for believing mel if im being completely honest. after going thru everything again (literally everything lol) i still can’t help but find mel more believable but also the story that timothy is telling is very similar to my own and it hurts that i think she could be lying about it
I feel bad that I used to believe Timothy Heller and I hate myself for it tbh. :/
I think if this affected melanie in any way she wouldn't be touring because clearly she isn't bothered by this meaning its false
that literally makes no sense whatsoever…what
Timothy looks lile lord farquadd
I see it lmao🤣
nahhh 💀
Real 😭
Globelamp is not the greatest ally for Melanie's side. Many people speculate that she is just clout-chasing to gain sympathy and I am more than inclined to believe this opinion, but regardless of her controversies, she is right and has PROOF that Timothy is manipulative. Timothy mistreated Globelamp until she was no longer of any use to her AND willingly kept in contact with the alleged abuser of Globelamp. Maybe not in direct contact, but still. And I say "alleged abuser" because Globelamp herself is a questionable person. If I recall correctly, Globelamp was accused of being a groomer. And also, Globelamp claims to be a victim of SA, but apparently, the man that she accused of SA didn't actually do it. If that's true, then that shows that Timothy is guilty of lying or in the very least exaggerating the allegation that Melanie is a predator, because why would a victim (Timothy) support someone lying about abuse? The perfect victim doesn't exist, but for Timothy, it looks incredibly shady that she's under scrutiny for false allegations (something she vehemently denies) but yet retained a friendship with another false accuser. Birds of a feather flock together. On the other hand, if Globelamp isn't lying about the abuse and actually IS a victim, that just makes Timothy look even worse. How can you claim to be someone's friend but then willingly and sadistically be involved with their abuser? Again, the perfect victim doesn't exist, but EITHER scenario is WRONG. It makes Timothy look bad either way and I think the receipts are enough for me to believe that Timothy mistreated Globelamp. You can have your own opinions, of course.
Take the accusations I said about Globelamp WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. The accusations that Globelamp is a victim of SA, is lying about SA, and/or is a groomer, are all inconclusive. From what I've seen, almost all of it is alleged and there is no definitive proof. What IS conclusive, however, is that Timothy is a terrible friend. Timothy mistreated Gloobelamp and she has receipts for it. This is just the "Frankie and Frankie's mom" situation all over again, where Timothy mistreated a child fan and her mother, before discarding the friendship. This is also alleged, but considering how there is evidence of Timothy being a toxic friend to Globelamp, I'm willing to believe the Frankie accusations are true. Regarding the Melanie allegations, I don't think Timothy is lying about feeling like a victim, but she certainly isn't one, and no amount of "victimhood" is justification for victimizing others. I'm also not entirely defending Globelamp, either. Because again, she has accusations of being a groomer, clout-chaser, and falsifying sexual abuse, and hasn't exactly spoken up. But I will sympathize with her bad experiences with Timothy.
Absolutely agree. Whoa I had no idea about some of this information though in regards to globelamp or ( Elizabeth) . That definitely helps put things in better perspective. Thank you for sharing this.
good point
@@user-girlinterrupted Of course! I'm trying to spread as much factual information as I can because both sides (Melanie's fanbase and Timothy supporters) are spewing far too much misinformation and hatred. This is a morally gray situation, after all.
Globelamp actually has physical proof that he did, she just wasn't believed. He knocked her front teeth out and has photographic evidence on her Twitter page. Still doesn't make the fact that Timothy using her is God awful, even moreso with that information in my opinion.
Globelamp literalmente acosa a artistas hablando sobre su abuso, artistas como Mitski y Phoebe Bridgers cuando ambas la bloquearon globelamp se enojo e hizo demasiados tweets hablando que apoyan a su abusador, Thimothy nunca estuvo directamente relacionada con sus abusadores, para esa mujer cualquiera que no quiera escuchar su historia independientemente si es incómodo de escuchar o pq no les permiten hacerlo es estar del lado de su abusador, lo cual es completamente irónico pues ella se burlo de que Thimothy quería el apoyo de Marina. El ser un mal amigo no te exenta de poder sufrir un abuso sexual.
I believe Melanie.
No morals ass biatch here!!
I believe melanie is innocent
Why gacha kiddo?
@@SalmonellaXX not more questions traine
@@roogacha I didn't mean that, I meant that you need to find correct truth and that you need to support the victims first, gosh you need to learn morals
@@SalmonellaXX i believe melanie is innocent
@@roogacha Why is that?
Tbh I don’t know who to believe anymore, because everyone is saying -“oh! Believe melanie!” Or “believe the victim” which I think is the right thing to do but still these are 2 completely different people that have done some things, but the best thing to do is just don’t listen to Melanie’s music and unfollow her during this situation
For me, I just can't believe Timothy at all.
(Doesn't mean I'm choosing sides) But what I'm saying is, Timothy's racist, Melanie isn't
Timothy supports Adolf Hi1tler, Melanie doesn't.
Timothy says racial slurs,
Melanie doesn't.
Separate art from artist is a thing rn you know...
am on melanie side and at 2:29 timothy saying that mel dont care about her brother is really sad bc mel mention him in her song in portals (womb)
Yeah, for a fact she does have full care for her whole family. So I don't think that she hates her own brother
0:44 like a little girl getting what?😭
Its like from Mean Girls 🥲 “I spend 90% talking about Regina and the other 10% im waiting for someone to bring her up so I can talk abt her” 2:39 😭
Thank you for the info
Globelamp turned against timothy just because timothy wouldn't support her anymore since globelamp had a restraining ordee since 2019. Timothy and Globelamp were barely friends.... Crybabies be creating false proof and shiet hahha 😂
How the fuck would you know. Did a stranger on the internet say that?
omg tell me more please , im on timothy's side but i need to gain proof to debate againts Felanie fans
1:56 unrelated but i saw the flaming lips in concert it was fire tbh 🔥🔥
Watching It rn!
Smaee
btw can i use the screen shots for one of my vids i will give fully credit
thanks!i will give full credit to u i love ur vids:)
Under 20 mins
Could you do a video on the “Child 🌽” Melanie was accused of drawing, and how it’s just a scrapped version of the Cry Baby album cover. Additionally could you also include in the video the Kewpie Babies, and how they are probably supposed to represent the song “Twins” and outtake for Cry Baby
people are allowed to draw whatever they want, nsfw art is a very common art form. she didn’t use it as an album cover, and blurred out anything potentially problematic/ inappropriate. leave her alone. the internet also wasn’t the same place 8 years ago, ppl just used to post whatever. Leave Her Alone.
@@willow-js6nmI love this message! I do agree with you ppl should leave her alone. I only think it’s the cover album (discarded) because of how it says “Cry Baby” which got many people to think it was her character. However I believe this was drawn in 2014, when Melanie was still recording the album. Cry Baby wasn’t originally gonna be named “Cry Baby” instead she was gonna be named “Melatonin” a play on “Melanie”. Cry Baby was likely gonna be a nickname. Songs like “Toy Chest”, “Coloring Book”, & “Animal Crackers” were names considered for the album, before Melanie chose Cry Baby. I made a concept for what the original Cry Baby album (plus deluxe) was going to look like. I also believe, that Portals was originally titled “Purgatory” and that it was going to be about Melatonin’s soul in the afterlife/purgatory realm. Which is why my other theory, about The Creature is that she is actually the ghost of Cry Baby. I also made a concept for Portals as well. My top-canon for portals is that Cry Baby and her friends entered the portal, but didn’t die directly. Instead they were reborn into new forms, due to their immortality, making them unable to truly die.
agreed
@@ghxstbunnii777 👆🙂
@@CC_Clarawow actually that makes alot of sense I was shocked when I first read the comment
No es por ser mala onda ni nada por el estilo, pero trataré de dar mi opinión con el mayor respeto posible porque no deseo invalidar a nadie. Mi principal problema con la señorita Globelamp es este: ¿cómo se le ocurre pedirle a una posible víctima de abuso que comparta su historia (de globelamp) en redes sociales cuando sabe perfectamente que, en ese momento, Thimothy estaba sufriendo acoso, doxeo y un odio masivo? ¿Cómo le pide eso a una víctima que estaba claramente pasándola mal? En ese momento, Thimothy no podía ni postear nada en paz porque muchos fanáticos llegaban a insultarla y a invalidar su testimonio con tal de defender a Melanie. No solo me parece algo egoísta por parte de Globelamp, sino también insensible al pedirle a Thimothy que publique su historia cuando sabía que eso solo empeoraría la situación. Globelamp solo estaba pensando en sí misma y su beneficio, no en las consecuencias que eso podría traerle a Thim.
Es cierto que repostear un tweet no toma ni un segundo, pero las reacciones que puede generar son muchas, y conociendo cómo son los fans de Melanie, es obvio que no iba a ser algo agradable para Thimothy. Apoyar a otra víctima no se limita a repostear un tweet; hay muchas formas de hacerlo. Thimothy dejó claro que, aunque no publicó nada, le brindó a Globelamp su apoyo incondicional y le aseguró que no la dejaría sola. Apoyar a otra víctima implica ofrecer apoyo emocional, estar presente, escuchar y comprender lo que están viviendo, lo cual puede ser mucho más significativo que un simple retweet.
Ahora, esas capturas de pantalla que mencionas, ¿acaso demuestran que Thimothy no fue agredida sexualmente por Melanie? Esas capturas no prueban nada, solo buscan manchar el nombre de la víctima. Es completamente comprensible que Thimothy sienta desprecio por Melanie y lo siga haciendo. ¿Sería agradable para ustedes ver cómo su abusador sigue triunfando mientras sus fanáticos intentan silenciar su testimonio? Globelamp no es una fuente confiable para cuestionar la veracidad de Thimothy, y esas capturas tampoco lo son.
En cuanto a lo que se dice en el minuto 2:14, Thimothy no está mintiendo. Hay dos testimonios, los de Stella y Gina Frey, donde ambas expresan su molestia por la actitud que Melanie mostró hacia ellas. Tal vez Melanie haya cambiado ahora, pero eso no borra el hecho de que se comportó mal con otras personas en el pasado. Thimothy tiene respaldo en este sentido al señalar que Melanie pudo ser narcisista, ya que estas chicas también la acusaron de tener actitudes prepotentes y groseras. Que Melanie sea tu cantante favorita no significa que, en persona, sea como tú la ves en pantalla. Recuerden que Stella y Gina Frey eran cercanas a Melanie; Stella la ayudaba con sus vestimentas, y Gina fue su maquilladora desde The Voice o su EP Dollhouse, ella creo los maquillajes de Melanie inspirados en muñecas.
Otro punto importante es que no deberías confiar ciegamente en una persona como Globelamp. Si investigaras bien, te darías cuenta de que, en primer lugar, ella no fue amiga ni persona cercana a Thimothy; solo se conocieron por el tema de compartir historias de abuso, nada más. En segundo lugar, ¿con qué derecho Globelamp habla de preocuparse por el bienestar de Melanie cuando ella misma tiene acusaciones de agresión sexual contra una de sus parejas? Globelamp es una abusadora, misógina, manipuladora y una mala persona que, hasta el día de hoy, sigue silenciando a quienes intentan hablar sobre ella. Es irónico que un abusador defienda a otro abusador. ¿De verdad creen que a Globelamp le importa como esta Melanie?, ¿De verdad piensan que a Globelamp le interesa limpiar la reputación de Melanie? a ella solo le agrada la idea de tener atención, TIENE ANTECEDENTES ASÍ.
Globelamp tiene un historial de difamar y mandar odio a mujeres y personas que no querían compartir su historia de abuso o promocionar su música. Las personas que compartían su historia lo hacían con miedo, sabiendo lo peligrosa y tóxica que es Globelamp. Ella tiene varias víctimas, y a todo aquel que trata de hablar de ella, Globelamp intenta callarlo con sus multicuentas. Lo mismo que hizo con Thimothy, lo ha hecho con otras personas. Globelamp no es una persona de fiar, y su testimonio sobre Thimothy no es confiable. Ella no estuvo en el lugar de los hechos para asegurar que Melanie no es una abusadora; Globelamp habla desde su experiencia personal con Thimothy, y conociendo sus antecedentes, no merece que la usen como principal prueba de que Thimothy miente.
por favor, revisen estos links sobre Globelamp:
1) pitchfork.com/news/foxygens-sam-france-and-ex-bandmate-elizabeth-le-fey-trade-domestic-violence-claims-in-court-and-online/
2) x.com/TheldlerWheel/status/1161835497787928576
PD: Habia una página llamada "Survivors of globelamp" pero parece que Globelamp la hizo caer
maybe timothy shouldnt hav lied about rape.
@@ChlozoAnimates Please explain to me why you think Timothy lied about something so serious. Timothy never changed his version of the story and he was denouncing this for years. What is your defense to argue that Timothy is lying?
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Thx alot sending love in many ways I thank you for the amount of evidence you gavs us but in future videos of proof can you maybe..talk abt the supposed other three victims of melanie?…
It doesn't exist
the proof or wdym..?
@@AngelDust_mylove the three victims
I'm sorry, what three victims? I heard that there was another woman who accused Melanie of SA, but there was no proof. However, I don't know who this woman was. Could you lend me a source for the other alleged victims?
@@SpookyCryBaby So your saying that mel never had three victims?
Very cool video spooky cry baby
Please tell me the messages aren’t fake
No, they are not
@@SpookyCryBaby Okay. Good because many people are photoshopping things to prove their point
@@SpookyCryBaby how can you verify though? Do you have links to the sites you got the screenshots from
Soy una fan de melanie pero porque nunca ponen el screenshot de globelamp diciendo que nunca estuvo en el lugar para saber qu pasó?? Solo ellas saben q sucedió, ni globelamp nibterceros lo saben
Great vid :)
Why I believe mel
What? I didn't understand 😅
@@the_dead_of_hellshes saying that this is why she believes Mel because of all the proof in the video
@@Fruitytooth_ Thank you, I didn't understand what that person meant.
people will believe ANYONE but the victims in this is proof, has anyone done any digging on globelamp?? like even the slightest bit of research you can find how absolutely crazy she is, first i’d like to point that she’s an abuser herself and her ex got a restraining order against her (begging for yall to atleast look into that) and look into the pages of people who’s she’s dissed on the internet
Just because someone is a horrible person doesn't mean they're lying. I mean, look at Timothy, she's racist, said good things about Hitl3r, said the N-word on several occasions, said things about the devil, let a 12-year old make her an OF banner and so much more.
guys.. Timothy's "Ex friend" doesn't even exist. (i prob worded that wrong but yeah.)
Vídeo perfeito!!
Amo seus vídeos:))))
Yayyyy ❤
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Primeraaa me fijas amo a Melanie Martinez es mi cantante fav
😮third😮
FIRST. stan loona
LMAO REALLL STAN LOONA
Pergunta: se a timithy heller é mentirosa já pesquisa no Google q é vdd
timothy isn’t a liar. there’s no evidence of her actually lying
@@xeryiiithere's no evidence of her telling the truth either
@@Theonly_z_Official doesn’t mean she lied
haven’t started the video yet hopefully globelamp doesn’t show up
edit: 😁