As someone who was SA'ed before, I'm rlly confused rn. I'm a Melanie fan since 2015 and I rlly don't want to belive she could ever do such a thing to someone. If she is indeed innocent, she should take this to court and sue Timothy for defamation immediately.
timothy wouldn't bring it to court if this was rlly a true story bc she has no abosulte proof that melanie allegedly SA'd her, that is why timothy brought the subject back up to the internet to get melanie cancelled instead of getting legal action involved since she has no actual proof.
I’m actually so annoyed right now. I’m not on a side, because Melanie Martinez could %100 be a grapist. Or, Timothy heller could %100 be a liar. I really don’t know what to think. And I’ve bought 3 Tshirts and 1 hoodie from Melanie, and I don’t want to wear them out in public just for some random ass person to come up to me and say Melanie is a grapist.
Timothy is lying pop base announced it on Twitter Melanies judges said if Timothy is lying she's going to pay a fine or go to jail I think? Then Timothy confessed that she was lying she was jealous of Melanies fame and she quit forever
There’s been a bunch of people who have debunked the whole situation in your long videos and even not including parts of the dates Timothy’s story still doesn’t make any sense
don't you think it's weird that as soon as melanie started to become viral for PORTALS and went on tour, that's when timothy brought it back up? I can't be the only one who thinks its weird. it could be out of jealously that melanie is thriving in life and that timothy is not.
I love Melanie Martinez's music, but "She Didn't Say No" didn't mean that Timothy wanted to do something with her, so that's not the best way to explain that it was something of consenting. Furthermore, I think it is not up to Melanie Martinez's community to research this matter. If there was a relationship without consent, it must be dealt with in court with investigation.
If I remember correctly Melnie said "she didn't say no" to the things that we chose to do together and to a game that Timothy herself introduced for both of them to play. But I do agree with you. If Melanie is innocent, she must take this to court immediately cuz it's pure defamation.
she worded it improperly. what she meant to say is that everything they did together was fully consensual. and notice how she said “she never said no to what WE CHOSE TO DO TOGETHER” and not “she never said no to what I CHOSE TO DO TO HER”
No, Timothy know she wouldn’t win, you gotta remember Melanie Martinez is a millionaire, she can afford a good lawyer and there would be a lack of evidence for the court.
Ya se sabia eso, Timothy siempre usó la empatía de las personas a su favor, ya no se si creerle pero con tantas pruebas contra ella, apoyo a Melanie Martínez
That response is during the crybaby era its not new. MY OPINION:tbh im neutral about this until i hear their side of the story.u shouldn't be picking sides until someone is proven innocent.i WAS on mels side at first but for now im neutral.no hate to people who r on mel or tim's side.
I’m going to be honest, I’m a young Melanie fan. So if anyone says anything about this situation I’m gonna pretend I don’t know because if she is guilty i don’t want to crush my own world.
Always been on Melanie’s side since day 1. Never believed a thing Timothy said since there’s been too much confusion and multiple mistakes made in her story
do yall not see the clear red flag in melanie saying "she never said no to what we chose to do together". is that not clicking in ur heads on how wrong that sounds
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealerexactly. I’ve been a fan of Melanie for almost a decade and I was on Melanie’s side at first cause I was a dumb 13 year old. I’m 20 now and a lot of the “evidence” proving Melanie is innocent isn’t really reliable.
Gente tonta serán ustedes q no les toma ni 5 minutos en investigar bien las cosas, siempre se creen las capturas falsas y comentarios q los propios fans de Melanie dicen, ni siquiera se cuestionan el hecho de q hayan hablado otras personas y el como nunca respondió directamente como lo hizo con Timothy, Melanie puede ser alguien q se hace pasar por buena y eso lo deben de reconocer
I agree with you on the You can't always believe the victims Because you really can't there is some victims that have accused celebrities or regular people of graping them When they really didn't And I'm not saying this because it's Melanie it's happened to other people too And I know it has That's why I agree with you on it But I can believe that there are Little holes in Timothy's story But I just don't like that there are some people that just wanna know every single detail about what they did that night Because I They that they did something sexual But 10-15 year olds Should not be trying to solve this on the internet Because Timothy needs to bring this to police Cause The internet is handling the situation like it's a joke or it's just a trend Either way if Melanie is guilty I will only support her for her music and her looks Never Support Melanie for being a rapist if she is But do not give criticism to Timothy or Melanie because we don't know Who's right and who's wrong Cause people keep on arguing about it And it's honestly just annoying And people need to respect people that are on Melanie's side And people need to respect people that are on Timothy's side That's the main thing that people be arguing about cause they don't wanna respect each other That's the main thing that people be arguing about cause they don't wanna respect each other's sides But I'm not coming to anybody Just stop arguing about this Alexa cause the internet is not gonna handle this like it's supposed to be handled And do not take Melanie side or Timothy's side if you don't know the whole story And do not pick Melanie's side just because she's your favorite artist You don't know if she could actually do that And I'm even saying that as a Melanie fan
i was a melanie fan for YEARS. bought all of her albums and ep on cd + a few sweaters. so trust me when i say, you can’t be this disillusioned by a celebrity bc at the bottom line, that’s what melanie is. she has become exactly who she “claims” she hates. regardless of if timothy is lying or not, we trust the victims because if you discredit one, you discredit all of us.
In fact, there are many cases in which the supposed victim should not always be believed, inform yourself, there are many things that do not coincide in Timothy's story, apart from that Melanie has made songs with delicate topics like the one presented by Timothy
This. Can't believe people are using her songs as proof that she didn't do it. She didn't say she was a grapist, how could she ever be a grapist!!1!1!1!!1!
@@sushicherub222 i’m sorry you missed the point. melanie never said she didn’t do it. she said timothy never explicitly said no. just because a victim never said “no” doesn’t mean they didn’t want it. melanie then proceeded to make a diss track on timothy calling her “fake” and how she just wanted to bring her down for fame, when all that came out about timothy making the allegation is so so much hate for her, she’s gained literally nothing.
@@thehermionegrangerr it’s insane honestly. but i get it tbh, i was such a mega fan i was one of the millions of people who bashed timothy because i was so entranced by melanie and her persona.
@@MelanieMartinez-on-a-budget what..? you dont have to be the perfect person to come put abt sa, thats so insensitive not js to Timothy but to other sa survivors 😭
@@MelanieMartinez-on-a-budget “trying to expose Melanie with trash music” are you fucking serious. That’s not the reason she “exposed” Melanie. It shows that you stans are NOT taking this shit seriously.
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As someone who was SA'ed before, I'm rlly confused rn. I'm a Melanie fan since 2015 and I rlly don't want to belive she could ever do such a thing to someone. If she is indeed innocent, she should take this to court and sue Timothy for defamation immediately.
I heard court treats SA very badly
@@beanos5174they said melanie should sue for defamation…read the comment 😭
@@floreiii oooooohh woops
@@beanos5174 !!
timothy wouldn't bring it to court if this was rlly a true story bc she has no abosulte proof that melanie allegedly SA'd her, that is why timothy brought the subject back up to the internet to get melanie cancelled instead of getting legal action involved since she has no actual proof.
I’m on Melanie’s side, to many holes in Timothy’s story
There's no proof on mels side
@@TheCosmeticQueenWell, there's no proof on Timothy's side either :/
Same
@@TheCosmeticQueenthere’s no proof of Timothy’s side either so yeah…
@@TheCosmeticQueenthere is
Apoyo definitivamente a Melanie
resumed: she didn’t respond again
We're here for Melanie, no matter what ❤
@@melrock06 this is actually insane to say.. ur literally defending a possible r*pist
@@melrock06 yall are always believe the victim first until its melanie
I’m actually so annoyed right now. I’m not on a side, because Melanie Martinez could %100 be a grapist. Or, Timothy heller could %100 be a liar. I really don’t know what to think. And I’ve bought 3 Tshirts and 1 hoodie from Melanie, and I don’t want to wear them out in public just for some random ass person to come up to me and say Melanie is a grapist.
Same that’s how I literally feel about me wearing my portals t shirt 😭
Fr tho
Timothy is lying pop base announced it on Twitter Melanies judges said if Timothy is lying she's going to pay a fine or go to jail I think? Then Timothy confessed that she was lying she was jealous of Melanies fame and she quit forever
There’s been a bunch of people who have debunked the whole situation in your long videos and even not including parts of the dates Timothy’s story still doesn’t make any sense
don't you think it's weird that as soon as melanie started to become viral for PORTALS and went on tour, that's when timothy brought it back up? I can't be the only one who thinks its weird. it could be out of jealously that melanie is thriving in life and that timothy is not.
Melanie's side thanks for the video ❤
I MOVED SO QUICK FOR THIS VIDEO
first one here! can’t believe Timothy would make these allegations they are actually quite sad:(
I love Melanie Martinez's music, but "She Didn't Say No" didn't mean that Timothy wanted to do something with her, so that's not the best way to explain that it was something of consenting. Furthermore, I think it is not up to Melanie Martinez's community to research this matter. If there was a relationship without consent, it must be dealt with in court with investigation.
If I remember correctly Melnie said "she didn't say no" to the things that we chose to do together and to a game that Timothy herself introduced for both of them to play. But I do agree with you. If Melanie is innocent, she must take this to court immediately cuz it's pure defamation.
@@littlebodybigheart357ate
she worded it improperly. what she meant to say is that everything they did together was fully consensual. and notice how she said “she never said no to what WE CHOSE TO DO TOGETHER” and not “she never said no to what I CHOSE TO DO TO HER”
this is just straight up clickbait lmfao 💀
exactly
Idk what to believe anymore. Ima just go to the concert cause my mom spent a lot on tickets.
Timothy could’ve took it to court when they were both small artists tbh…
Court doesnt treat SA well and most likely will pick timothees side.
No, Timothy know she wouldn’t win, you gotta remember Melanie Martinez is a millionaire, she can afford a good lawyer and there would be a lack of evidence for the court.
Ya se sabia eso, Timothy siempre usó la empatía de las personas a su favor, ya no se si creerle pero con tantas pruebas contra ella, apoyo a Melanie Martínez
That response is during the crybaby era its not new.
MY OPINION:tbh im neutral about this until i hear their side of the story.u shouldn't be picking sides until someone is proven innocent.i WAS on mels side at first but for now im neutral.no hate to people who r on mel or tim's side.
Im separating art from artist at this point
LOVE MELANIE!❤
Im on melanies side, i believe her more than anyone. And timothy lies. To everyone and Melanie.
@@VerinaAweirdsonicfan this is not a flex bro you should always believe the victim first
I’m going to be honest, I’m a young Melanie fan. So if anyone says anything about this situation I’m gonna pretend I don’t know because if she is guilty i don’t want to crush my own world.
why lie in title?
The title is in the present simple tense.
Este caso me recuerda al cuento del niño y el lobo
Always been on Melanie’s side since day 1. Never believed a thing Timothy said since there’s been too much confusion and multiple mistakes made in her story
do yall not see the clear red flag in melanie saying "she never said no to what we chose to do together". is that not clicking in ur heads on how wrong that sounds
nah these stans just think her terrible statement automatically means they both consented
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealerexactly. I’ve been a fan of Melanie for almost a decade and I was on Melanie’s side at first cause I was a dumb 13 year old. I’m 20 now and a lot of the “evidence” proving Melanie is innocent isn’t really reliable.
Do you have a brain because you are making mine hurt
I thought melanie responded for 2024 allegations
You're just sharing past statements
Hay mucha gente tonta diciendo que como es posible que defendamos a Melanie, pero en serio no les cuesta nada investigar
Gente tonta serán ustedes q no les toma ni 5 minutos en investigar bien las cosas, siempre se creen las capturas falsas y comentarios q los propios fans de Melanie dicen, ni siquiera se cuestionan el hecho de q hayan hablado otras personas y el como nunca respondió directamente como lo hizo con Timothy, Melanie puede ser alguien q se hace pasar por buena y eso lo deben de reconocer
WHAT WHAT!!!!❤
They're old statements
am a mel fan but am not on one side bc i was not there that night so mel and timothy have to talk things out.(am a mel fan)
I agree with you on the You can't always believe the victims Because you really can't there is some victims that have accused celebrities or regular people of graping them When they really didn't And I'm not saying this because it's Melanie it's happened to other people too And I know it has That's why I agree with you on it But I can believe that there are Little holes in Timothy's story But I just don't like that there are some people that just wanna know every single detail about what they did that night Because I They that they did something sexual But 10-15 year olds Should not be trying to solve this on the internet Because Timothy needs to bring this to police Cause The internet is handling the situation like it's a joke or it's just a trend Either way if Melanie is guilty I will only support her for her music and her looks Never Support Melanie for being a rapist if she is But do not give criticism to Timothy or Melanie because we don't know Who's right and who's wrong Cause people keep on arguing about it And it's honestly just annoying And people need to respect people that are on Melanie's side And people need to respect people that are on Timothy's side That's the main thing that people be arguing about cause they don't wanna respect each other That's the main thing that people be arguing about cause they don't wanna respect each other's sides But I'm not coming to anybody Just stop arguing about this Alexa cause the internet is not gonna handle this like it's supposed to be handled And do not take Melanie side or Timothy's side if you don't know the whole story And do not pick Melanie's side just because she's your favorite artist You don't know if she could actually do that And I'm even saying that as a Melanie fan
IS THIS NEW?!❤
No.
“She wouldn’t do this🥺🥺🥺” do you know her personally? Were you there?
And were you there? Jackass
Very cool video spooky cry baby
Melanie is innocent
Proud to say i never liked timothy heller
i was a melanie fan for YEARS. bought all of her albums and ep on cd + a few sweaters. so trust me when i say, you can’t be this disillusioned by a celebrity bc at the bottom line, that’s what melanie is. she has become exactly who she “claims” she hates. regardless of if timothy is lying or not, we trust the victims because if you discredit one, you discredit all of us.
In fact, there are many cases in which the supposed victim should not always be believed, inform yourself, there are many things that do not coincide in Timothy's story, apart from that Melanie has made songs with delicate topics like the one presented by Timothy
This. Can't believe people are using her songs as proof that she didn't do it. She didn't say she was a grapist, how could she ever be a grapist!!1!1!1!!1!
@@sushicherub222 i’m sorry you missed the point. melanie never said she didn’t do it. she said timothy never explicitly said no. just because a victim never said “no” doesn’t mean they didn’t want it. melanie then proceeded to make a diss track on timothy calling her “fake” and how she just wanted to bring her down for fame, when all that came out about timothy making the allegation is so so much hate for her, she’s gained literally nothing.
@@thehermionegrangerr it’s insane honestly. but i get it tbh, i was such a mega fan i was one of the millions of people who bashed timothy because i was so entranced by melanie and her persona.
@@jizzinator Me too! Until I looked at ONE twitter thread explaining why the "proof" that Mel was innocent was all faked and I was... gagged
thus is clickbait. she didn't re-respond.
Melanie is INNOCENT
No she’s not
@@MEL_LUNITA606 lmao keep believing that
Clickbait, no hay nada actualizado
Vamos a funar a la tomate heller
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Sigh clickbait. I dunno why this video was even made. There’s no real new information
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OMG
I'm not really taking sides. I was on Melanies side but Idk who to believe anymore so... we'll just have to wait and see
We’ll never know
@@me0wamber yeah
Saquen a Timothy del sistema solar porfas 😁
Q te saquen a vos y a Melanie, por favor
Clickbait asf she didn’t respond recently 🙄wasted my time on the this video
Yeah like your mom wasted her life on you
First
Your third
On Melanie side because Timothy has trash music and Timothy racist 😩😩😩😩😩idk why Timothy trying expose Melanie with that trash music 😩😩😩😩😩
You fucking stans are so immature. “I don’t like Timothy cause her music trash”. So just because of that means she’s lying right?
@@MelanieMartinez-on-a-budget what..? you dont have to be the perfect person to come put abt sa, thats so insensitive not js to Timothy but to other sa survivors 😭
@@Witheredcrucifixok it's my opinion to be on Melanie side than Timothy side you didn't have to be rude plus I was being honest about her music 😔
@@MelanieMartinez-on-a-budget “trying to expose Melanie with trash music” are you fucking serious. That’s not the reason she “exposed” Melanie. It shows that you stans are NOT taking this shit seriously.