Ferrari FF Common Faults and Repairs (GTC Lusso) 10 Year Edition
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2025
- I go over all of the items I see on every FF (and thereby GTC Lusso) as they hit the 10 year mark. Use this video when doing a used car purchase to check for these items. These items will apply to the F12 and 812 also, except no PTU.
If you need any parts for these cars, we stock all these items and have the ability to expedite shipping. We stock 3 cars worth, but they still sell out when factory back orders occur. PTU and DCT parts are always in stock.
I am the proud owner of the satin black project car in this video and it’s been a lot of fun talking about all the mods which I think will be very popular with other FF and GTC4 owners. The battery issues alone cause so many faults that frustrate owners because they don’t know what causes the problems. That relocation kit is a smart investment. Micah is fast becoming the truthsayer for v12 Ferraris. There is a lot to demystify and even Ferrari dealers are on their back feet on many of these topics. The dealer doesn’t always know best.
Purosangue reviews got me thinking about FF and GTC Lusso, both the sort of Ferrari I would enjoy. Watching this, and comparing the standard of engineering with my 150k mile 911 964 Carrera 4 (from 1989), has been truly eye-opening. Thank you!
Finding this channel is a godsend…. I was getting dangerously close to pulling the trigger on a Lusso T but I don’t think I’m ready for the maintenance requirements. I had a 2012 BMW 650i with the n63 engine and the constant issues, downtime, and crazy parts prices drove me nuts… I knew my mechanic far too well lol… my Porsche mechanic on the other hand never remembers my name… I’ll take that as a sign 😂
@@fishhead90 I just parked my x5 n63 for the last time. Got 145k miles before valve stem seals got too bad. I don't feel like investing a week of my labor to fixing it. So we are 2wd manual converting it with something more reliable 😊
@@fishhead90 but just a note, the lusso t doesn't have the ptu and it has a smaller, easier to maintain engine so the costs might not be as high
Big fan of Micah! He knows his stuff. I was the owner of the white FF. I sold it earlier this year. It was a great car to me and Micah took the time to explain the maintenance options and other information about the car. If I still had it I would definitely take it to him.
I have an E60 M5 which is quite notorious as well. However, like the FF if you know the car inside out and take some extra cash to adress all the issues they can be a dream. I missed an opportunity on an FF last year. Maybe one day! At least I know what to keep in mind
Agree with the age vs mileage thing 100%!
Great video. Would love to see a similar video on the AMG GT, GTS, GTC platform as well.
Thanks for the video, I was over here considering one and now Im not lol. Subbed and liked
A worst case scenario: great car cursed by a company lacking quality control.
Just imagine getting hit with a critically needed $100k service. Fucking hell.
This kind of made me want a GTC4Lusso even more. I was under the impression that all of the good builders who can help with the PTU and 4WD were in England. Guess that is what I deserve for only watching other YT vids and reading reddit threads.
I was looking at GTCs on the East Coast and was going to start asking about the service history, but it seems the best is to just send it to you as a preventative maintenance? How long would the PTU last after the fix?
A dealer I spoke with joked I should just buy two PTUs along with the GTC if I plan to put 10K+ miles on it. Guess he wasn't wrong.
Thank !!! Good info !!!
Have a Few working on right now !!!
Ethanol in our fuels is a problem for sure. Do you recommend regular use cleaning detergent like techron, gumout, and redline sl1?
What exactly needed to be done for 100k at Ferrari and 65k for your service? Was that a transmission or engine rebuild?
do you have info yet for the battery relocation kit? parts and labor cost? Since trunk is much cooler, is it ok (do you recommend) using Anti Gravity after the relocation?
@@waaan_ I have all the parts for the battery relocation ready but I haven't sold any that I did not install due to the risk of grounding the positive wire if the install is not done correctly. Not sure if I'll sell the entire kit or just the brackets to replace the battery in the front and tie down the battery in the rear. Find my company on Google and message us and we can get you those parts. The truck panels we will not offer because of different cars came with different rear trunk panels. The best thing for that is to go to an upholstery shop and let them just make the panels custom. It would probably be cheaper than buying at our cost and shipping them and they can cover them in whatever material best matches your car. As far as lithium ion, most technicians at the dealers do not like them, as errant faults are often in control modules due to unexpected voltage variations. Even the dealers no longer sell them. Mclaren, for instance, now only sell agm and conversion kits for all their cars. So something is not good if a dealer is willing to cut out a part they are selling for $2k to replace with something you can buy at autozone. 🤷
@HollywoodMechanic thanks Micah. Appreciate you being so engaged with your community.
Im so desperate and on my way towards an FF, absolute favorite Ferrari. But these issues just terrify me 🤣
The issues are over exaggerated. Go for it.
What type of exhaust is on that thing? 25:05
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@@HollywoodMechanic thank you
You didn’t break down the cost for all the items. Especially the engine bay ones.
Holy crap... seems like nightmare... yeah, I know, it's legendary.. but still :D damn...
Legend!!
How faulty are the F12 and the 812 from your experience as a mechanic?
@@G6_SA 812 is kinda new, so faults are not common yet but it's the same basic layout for the engine and gearbox. The F12 I see the same issues. So water/oil pump, radiator design, timing solenoids under the valve cover, transmission over haul and weep hole requirements, shocks leaking (especially if lowered).
I had a 2008 612 and was speaking with one of the top Ferrari mechanics in the country (similar to Micah, but down in San Diego) and when I asked Steve how do I get a Ferrari without problems, he said the key is to buy a three year old car and sell it before the warranty runs out. After having to replace my tie rod ends at 20k miles you learn that in fact Ferrari's are just not well built.
It's nice to be mentioned in the same class as Steve M, if that's who you're talking about. Great guy, really bringing engineering into his custom mods and repairs. Hard to get ahold of though, but the best are it seems. It's funny that he commented that. If you read the comment from @stuffhappens5681 "Not exactly selling me..." my reply was similar to what Steve told you: Buy a previous generation 4 or 5 year model and sell it after a year. You really get the cross point between most depreciation already occurred and least maintenance expected.
@@HollywoodMechanic Yup, that's the Steve I was referring to. I loved when he showed me the 458 transmission and said, hey that switch costs 30k from Ferrari or 3k from me. I was actively looking at a FF that already had the PTU repair done and then I learned that was a worse idea than buying a Mondial
So Ferrari orange peel paint jobs and bird shit welds are just icing on the cake!
@@jim99west46 I don't think the paint is that bad on most. The paint shops repairing them often do bad work. The welds are sometimes messy, I'm with you on that. But you don't hear about them cracking that often. Headers, on some years yes. But not really body frame stuff
I’ve heard the PTU issue is for 2012 and 2013 but not on 2014-2016. Is that correct?
@@theeverydayguy2938 haha nope buddy. Gtc4lusso I just had to rebuild with 8000 miles on the odometer. The forums never cease to amaze me. Ferrari doesn't change anything. Ever. If it was a big problem before, it still is. Until they replace whatever it is with a completely new model. So many times I hear, "oh they updated the 7dct and only the Californias have problems. Meanwhile I'm doing weep seals on 488s and 812s 🤣
Will all the FF eventually have the ptu issue,?
@@robertcomella8486 yes. The design is flawed. I have other videos clearly showing an inadequate snap ring not designed for lateral load as well as the geometry of the shift fork bushings lacking in several ways. They all fail
@@HollywoodMechanic thanks....time to sell mine, had for 4 years with no issues...time to get out
I saw a cheap FF the other day, now I know why its ”cheap”. I dont have a Micah in my part of the world.
There goes my plan to get an FF (dont want GT4 Lusso). I am pretty good with DIY projects and I have a lift but after watching this video and why costs are so high (parts) I will be passing on FF and probably getting C8 AND M5 instead. Bye bye screaming v12...welcome rumbling v8's?
I hope you're not talking about an M5 with the S63 engine. I just sold my N63 (almost same engine for the v8 TT non M cars) and it was a complete nightmare to own. I spent $5000 in parts alone, not including the notorious valve stem seals and guides or the $3200 fuel injectors. That motor had 24 different fluid hose connections to pull that motor and you have to do it after 10 years because the plastic intake leaks boost. Such a nightmare. If you have good mechanical hands, you can do all the Ferrari stuff yourself. The BMW requires much more skill and time to service as well as needing ISTA to try to diagnose their "torque request" system that won't tell you what's wrong, only the engine is low on power. Such a nightmare.
Thats interesting. Would you consider v8 mid engine Ferraris more reliable than v12 counterparts? 360 and 430 and 458?
if anything... this made me not want a FF anymore
@@Theindiantrader30 then you don't want any modern ferrari v12 cars. They all will have the same maintenance except the ptu
Not exactly selling me on Ferrari ownership right now.
@@stuffhappens5681 gotta do it right. Wait until the next model comes out for a full year, then buy a 5 year old, 20k mile or less model ferrari. You'll be at the cross point of depreciation and maintenance for about a year and half. Then get rid of it
@@HollywoodMechanic - Agree. Or, buy an NSX, C8, Emira, or almost any Porsche and don’t worry about watching the clock or wallet.
this super cars or exotic cars, are like women, look pretty, but nooooot worth owning it.
you can say that about a used BMW, Mercedes, or Audi too but with far less cache.
@@CoolHand273 they are kind of premium cars as well, especially in germany, they are lot more expencive as they are sold in USA. if you dont have really good paid job, you cant afford new mercedes or bmw.
@@CoolHand273I understand what your trying to say but the costs to repair those are mot in league with a Ferrari