I learned more about our history again and I thank you for that. I always look forward to the next post from you. I am always awestruck on the architecture but what captivates me is always the lack of people from none to a few in pictures of the past.
Such a beautiful city. And look what we've done to your Old World, mama! I always have to fight the sadness watching such videos... Of course the saddest part is the loss of the humans who could build all that, the difference between the mentalities and knowledge of then and now. The architecture is simply the most obvious indication.
Awesome episode New England is FULL of old world type structures. I’m rediscovering new anomalies weekly. FYI: Pipe organ is still in tact and working (last I knew) I grew up in Methuen
Thank you so much for your videos! It's great that you have your child involved. This is teaching critical thinking skills. My son is just a bit too "teen-age" to care right now. I lived in Boston for six months during my late teens. I've been all over the world and have volunteered in some historic structures for many years, but Boston was "other worldly" to me. As a teen, like my son, didn't care much. However, Boston made a huge impact on me. I lived in the Back Bay, close to the Public Gardens, Boston Commons and Beacon Hill and about 2 blocks from "Cheers", which by the way, was half way buried. Everything had half buried windows. If you go on Zillow there are a few houses for sale in that neighborhood and you can see what's I'll talking about. They've managed to vandalize many of those older homes by white washing all of the interiors. I think that the "controllers" teach real estate agents to instruct all of their clients to paint over all of the wonderful woodwork. Maybe the house flippers are also in on it. I used to wonder what it was like to live somewhere where the view was mostly other people's ankles. Lots of structures were buried on a heavy slope or hill. Half the first floors were buried, half the first floors were above ground. The amount of really old buildings and infrastructure was overwhelming. There was just a bit too much to look at as a teen. At the time in the Commons, they left old empty lamps up stating at one time they were gas burning. If I was going out, I had to check my footwear. Some parts of town had cobble stones and/or brick sidewalks and they would knock the cap right off of high heeled shoes. I'll go back some day.
Thanks for this comment. Interesting about the 'gas lighting'. Sounds like they're doing just that. I'd love to go to Boston with the family...one day.
@@oldworldex It is the most overtly old world city in America, in my humble opinion. There's a lot left, unlike other cities. Lived there in the 90s and since the historical society has prevented much from being removed or demolished.
I grew up in NH, (no shortage of old unbelievable building here either) and my Grandmother who was born in 1892 in Boston, took me first my train and later by bus every weekend to Boston. I remember looking at many of the buildings in awe. I remember her wondering why so many were taken down. I remember and loved the cobblestone streets, the smells of the outside raw food markets, the smell of the trains, the hotels we stayed at. So sad all of its gone now. We have been lied to, no doubt.
My Yiayia took me on my first train ride too. My Papou had worked for the Railroad in Ogden Utah after moving there from Greece. It was SLC to Chicago bc she had a Fear of Flying.
Would have been nice to know which of the buildings pictured are still standing!!! I know some are. Thanks for those beautiful pictures of some most impressive buildings, wonderful!!!
I live in suburban Boston and am saddened daily by the destruction wrought by the modernists and developers in recent decades. Our "historic" city is becoming less so daily.
10:17 it's just surreal when you stop looking at this tower for a moment to realize just how absurdly big it is when comparing it to the apartment buildings next to it. that "clock" must have been literally the size of an apartment.
Great stuff mate that young apprentice you have is one bright kid he's picking up on stuff without any prompting great to see someone so young thinking out the box as for all this victorian and greco classic architecture they just did it because they could and it was kinda straight forward to do not like all the brutalism architecture we achieve nowadays they would have struggled with all the right angled boxes our generation has risen to , aren't you just proud to be part of it all ????
@8:42 The Christian Science Church, I worked there for 4 years in the 80s. The first year I was in security and I’ve seen every square inch of those buildings. There are 2 different churches in one, the smaller one on the right is said to be the “Original Mother Church” built around 1880 and the huge Byzantine type structure on the left is called “The Extension”,supposedly built in 1904. I believe it’s actually the reverse though. The big one is much older than the little one.
Granite does not melt in a fire, but it can fracture and fall apart. Also remember that buildings of this era used stone and wood, not a steel/iron skeleton. The wood burns often prying the bricks/stone out of place as it collapses, plus the mortar dries out and crumbles. The castle is the old Armory of the First Corps of Cadets: I had a history class in its tower when it was the library for UMass Boston. The Burrage mansion was hated in its day as being "too New York" (now condos - one of which was just on the market and hyped as being once owned by Tom Brady). After the Burrage mansion is the original North Station that was demolished for the previously shown NS/Boston Garden which was also demolished for the current station and Garden (home of Celtics and Bruins). The Christian Science headquarters is both the original church and the large later addition. The Custom House with the dome is now the base of the C.H. Tower (now timeshares). The statue atop old Horticultural Hall is the goddess Ceres (goddess of agriculture). I think that the photo of "Peacock Alley has nothing to do with the hotel photo as that is the 1912 Copley Plaza Hotel (original name - Boston hotel is just a generic designation) whose "Alley " was larger and more ornate. The next hotel with the curved facade is the Hotel Buckminster where the 1919 Black Sox scandal was cooked up. The St James Hotel was used as the exterior of St. Elsewhere on tv. Hotel Westminster Garden is now the site of 200 Clarendon St (tallest building in New England - originally Hancock Tower). Metheun (30 miles outside Boston) Music Hall was built just to house that organ (from the original Boston Music Hall - 1st home of the Boston Symphony). The Copley Plaza is on the site of the original Museum of Fine Arts (photo). Photo disconnect: Music Hall is now Symphony Hall and replaced (in a different location) the old Music Hall with the organ. 1st Opera House was torn down; 2nd was the old B. F. Keith Memorial Theater (opened in 1928 not 19th century) that was rehabed. The next photo is of the Palais Garnier (Paris Opera) staircases! A reason that a lot of the Back Bay (Trinity Church, Comm Ave, Old MFA) buildings went down is that Back Bay is landfill.
This is “the story” that we all heard in school… 🫣 why would someone design a building with full length regular windows to be cut off half way in a basement? Or design a building of that opulence, such sophistication and symmetry… just to have the brick window races cutoff at street level in such an odd fashion? This is what I’m trying to answer… as well as why half of Worcester streets are becoming a bunch of sink holes opening up to a 5 foot drop beneath? We need to start digging.
Re: Birds Eye View Maps: Some were based on surveys and plats in combination with ground level sketches that the artist could extrapolate into a finished product. Bird's Eye View maps were also created from observations from nearby hilltops, and also through the use of hot air balloons 😊Very interesting collection of images ...thank you!
They told us (as a Bostonian) that the Green Line was the fordt subway in the country ... of course it's on a plaque located in Boston Common and not widely known .
Lots of square buildings but wow to the insides....interesting about the fires of course....sidewalks look perfect......why would they stop designing like this if the dates were correct? It is becoming clearer and clearer something was covered up.....I can no longer even make my brain register any of this was "normal" thanks to the Jr. Explorer for joining....
At the time Mark 7: 07, you zoom in on a street view that shows the brick road what's the streetcar rails built-in. I noticed the two man holes to the lower left. This would tell me that there is an extensive tunnel system underneath the road. And I'm sure they were also lined with bricks.
Horticultural Hall @ 11:27 is at Symphony Hall. Huntington Ave @ Mass Ave Corner. I was telling somebody yesterday that that was an inherited building. Directly behind it is the Christian Science [state house looking] Church. Now called Symphony Hall @ 17:21 is directly across the street to the right, from horticulture Hall previously
This - combines with those coins showing the dome or shield in the sky over walled cities - makes me think that these cities were conquered by the same forces or cataclysmic event caused by some force or supernatural force.
Considering the scale of destruction, with basically every city in North America being burned, what's your theory on the cause? A world war with zeppelins dropping fuel-air bombs? Nukes? A cosmic event? To me, it seems like even the memory of the original inhabitants has been somehow erased, almost like no one was ever there. I wonder how long the interim period really was, between the time of destruction and the repopulating of the continent.
It's an interesting thought to consider...I think it's evidence that we have been reset as a species and our collective memory wiped clean. I also think that memory is still there and that might explain their need to control our perception of this reality. I did make the HG Wells video in which I play around with the idea that there was a 'war for the world' in which many technologies that were a part of a possible previous civilization were phased out of this new world and perhaps used to clean up the remnants of the previous civilization that was being erased. It's very likely that much of the realm lay in ruin for some time before these 'inheritors' were able to scour what remained and distort the storyline. So much to speculate on...I appreciate your comment and thank you for watching!
@@oldworldex Thanks for your great work! It's inspired me to post some slideshows of my own research. I haven't watched "The War For The World" yet, but I actually have the same photo of that airship!
@@oldworldex they tore that awesome structure down. Probably there was a massive sculpture on top of the arch. they dont give a date as to when on Wikipedia however.
I learned more about our history again and I thank you for that. I always look forward to the next post from you. I am always awestruck on the architecture but what captivates me is always the lack of people from none to a few in pictures of the past.
Totally where are the people?
So the second floor then must become the first floor, often necessitating the construction of a stairway to reach the door.
Such a beautiful city. And look what we've done to your Old World, mama! I always have to fight the sadness watching such videos... Of course the saddest part is the loss of the humans who could build all that, the difference between the mentalities and knowledge of then and now. The architecture is simply the most obvious indication.
Custom House Tower probably connected to Airships.
Same with the Empire State building.
Awesome episode
New England is FULL of old world type structures. I’m rediscovering new anomalies weekly.
FYI: Pipe organ is still in tact and working (last I knew) I grew up in Methuen
Thank you so much for your videos! It's great that you have your child involved. This is teaching critical thinking skills. My son is just a bit too "teen-age" to care right now. I lived in Boston for six months during my late teens. I've been all over the world and have volunteered in some historic structures for many years, but Boston was "other worldly" to me. As a teen, like my son, didn't care much. However, Boston made a huge impact on me. I lived in the Back Bay, close to the Public Gardens, Boston Commons and Beacon Hill and about 2 blocks from "Cheers", which by the way, was half way buried. Everything had half buried windows. If you go on Zillow there are a few houses for sale in that neighborhood and you can see what's I'll talking about. They've managed to vandalize many of those older homes by white washing all of the interiors. I think that the "controllers" teach real estate agents to instruct all of their clients to paint over all of the wonderful woodwork. Maybe the house flippers are also in on it. I used to wonder what it was like to live somewhere where the view was mostly other people's ankles. Lots of structures were buried on a heavy slope or hill. Half the first floors were buried, half the first floors were above ground. The amount of really old buildings and infrastructure was overwhelming. There was just a bit too much to look at as a teen. At the time in the Commons, they left old empty lamps up stating at one time they were gas burning. If I was going out, I had to check my footwear. Some parts of town had cobble stones and/or brick sidewalks and they would knock the cap right off of high heeled shoes. I'll go back some day.
Thanks for this comment. Interesting about the 'gas lighting'. Sounds like they're doing just that. I'd love to go to Boston with the family...one day.
@@oldworldex It is the most overtly old world city in America, in my humble opinion. There's a lot left, unlike other cities. Lived there in the 90s and since the historical society has prevented much from being removed or demolished.
Another great presentation OWE ... SHORPY ARCHIVE has a massive collection.
I grew up in NH, (no shortage of old unbelievable building here either) and my Grandmother who was born in 1892 in Boston, took me first my train and later by bus every weekend to Boston. I remember looking at many of the buildings in awe. I remember her wondering why so many were taken down. I remember and loved the cobblestone streets, the smells of the outside raw food markets, the smell of the trains, the hotels we stayed at. So sad all of its gone now. We have been lied to, no doubt.
What a lovely snapshot in time. Thank you for sharing this 🙏♥
My Yiayia took me on my first train ride too. My Papou had worked for the Railroad in Ogden Utah after moving there from Greece. It was SLC to Chicago bc she had a Fear of Flying.
Great job Jr. Explorer.
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Would have been nice to know which of the buildings pictured are still standing!!! I know some are. Thanks for those beautiful pictures of some most impressive buildings, wonderful!!!
My town!!!!! 👍
I live in suburban Boston and am saddened daily by the destruction wrought by the modernists and developers in recent decades. Our "historic" city is becoming less so daily.
It looks more like they were blowing up the buildings which caused the fire
That doesn't look like damage from fire... That looks like damage from war... Or bombs.... Complete destruction and devastation
10:17 it's just surreal when you stop looking at this tower for a moment to realize just how absurdly big it is when comparing it to the apartment buildings next to it. that "clock" must have been literally the size of an apartment.
Great stuff mate that young apprentice you have is one bright kid he's picking up on stuff without any prompting great to see someone so young thinking out the box as for all this victorian and greco classic architecture they just did it because they could and it was kinda straight forward to do not like all the brutalism architecture we achieve nowadays they would have struggled with all the right angled boxes our generation has risen to , aren't you just proud to be part of it all ????
@8:42 The Christian Science Church, I worked there for 4 years in the 80s. The first year I was in security and I’ve seen every square inch of those buildings. There are 2 different churches in one, the smaller one on the right is said to be the “Original Mother Church” built around 1880 and the huge Byzantine type structure on the left is called “The Extension”,supposedly built in 1904. I believe it’s actually the reverse though. The big one is much older than the little one.
Granite does not melt in a fire, but it can fracture and fall apart. Also remember that buildings of this era used stone and wood, not a steel/iron skeleton. The wood burns often prying the bricks/stone out of place as it collapses, plus the mortar dries out and crumbles. The castle is the old Armory of the First Corps of Cadets: I had a history class in its tower when it was the library for UMass Boston. The Burrage mansion was hated in its day as being "too New York" (now condos - one of which was just on the market and hyped as being once owned by Tom Brady). After the Burrage mansion is the original North Station that was demolished for the previously shown NS/Boston Garden which was also demolished for the current station and Garden (home of Celtics and Bruins). The Christian Science headquarters is both the original church and the large later addition. The Custom House with the dome is now the base of the C.H. Tower (now timeshares). The statue atop old Horticultural Hall is the goddess Ceres (goddess of agriculture). I think that the photo of "Peacock Alley has nothing to do with the hotel photo as that is the 1912 Copley Plaza Hotel (original name - Boston hotel is just a generic designation) whose "Alley " was larger and more ornate. The next hotel with the curved facade is the Hotel Buckminster where the 1919 Black Sox scandal was cooked up. The St James Hotel was used as the exterior of St. Elsewhere on tv. Hotel Westminster Garden is now the site of 200 Clarendon St (tallest building in New England - originally Hancock Tower). Metheun (30 miles outside Boston) Music Hall was built just to house that organ (from the original Boston Music Hall - 1st home of the Boston Symphony). The Copley Plaza is on the site of the original Museum of Fine Arts (photo). Photo disconnect: Music Hall is now Symphony Hall and replaced (in a different location) the old Music Hall with the organ. 1st Opera House was torn down; 2nd was the old B. F. Keith Memorial Theater (opened in 1928 not 19th century) that was rehabed. The next photo is of the Palais Garnier (Paris Opera) staircases! A reason that a lot of the Back Bay (Trinity Church, Comm Ave, Old MFA) buildings went down is that Back Bay is landfill.
This is “the story” that we all heard in school… 🫣 why would someone design a building with full length regular windows to be cut off half way in a basement? Or design a building of that opulence, such sophistication and symmetry… just to have the brick window races cutoff at street level in such an odd fashion? This is what I’m trying to answer… as well as why half of Worcester streets are becoming a bunch of sink holes opening up to a 5 foot drop beneath? We need to start digging.
Re: Birds Eye View Maps: Some were based on surveys and plats in combination with ground level sketches that the artist could extrapolate into a finished product. Bird's Eye View maps were also created from observations from nearby hilltops, and also through the use of hot air balloons 😊Very interesting collection of images ...thank you!
Boston subways old world all right.
They told us (as a Bostonian) that the Green Line was the fordt subway in the country ... of course it's on a plaque located in Boston Common and not widely known .
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Lots of square buildings but wow to the insides....interesting about the fires of course....sidewalks look perfect......why would they stop designing like this if the dates were correct? It is becoming clearer and clearer something was covered up.....I can no longer even make my brain register any of this was "normal" thanks to the Jr. Explorer for joining....
At the time Mark 7: 07, you zoom in on a street view that shows the brick road what's the streetcar rails built-in. I noticed the two man holes to the lower left. This would tell me that there is an extensive tunnel system underneath the road. And I'm sure they were also lined with bricks.
Imagine cleaning up all the rubble after that great DEW fire in 1872. And where did it all go?
Birdseye view from balloons.
Horticultural Hall @ 11:27 is at Symphony Hall. Huntington Ave @ Mass Ave Corner. I was telling somebody yesterday that that was an inherited building. Directly behind it is the Christian Science [state house looking] Church.
Now called Symphony Hall @ 17:21 is directly across the street to the right, from horticulture Hall previously
The Old World word for 'condo' was 'hotel', One didn't stay over night, while out of town, in a hotel, one lived in one...kinda like John and Yoko.
This - combines with those coins showing the dome or shield in the sky over walled cities - makes me think that these cities were conquered by the same forces or cataclysmic event caused by some force or supernatural force.
Opera House is just from the 1920s. RKO Boston movie palace by Thomas Lamb.
1920's
Suuuuure
Considering the scale of destruction, with basically every city in North America being burned, what's your theory on the cause? A world war with zeppelins dropping fuel-air bombs? Nukes? A cosmic event? To me, it seems like even the memory of the original inhabitants has been somehow erased, almost like no one was ever there. I wonder how long the interim period really was, between the time of destruction and the repopulating of the continent.
It's an interesting thought to consider...I think it's evidence that we have been reset as a species and our collective memory wiped clean. I also think that memory is still there and that might explain their need to control our perception of this reality. I did make the HG Wells video in which I play around with the idea that there was a 'war for the world' in which many technologies that were a part of a possible previous civilization were phased out of this new world and perhaps used to clean up the remnants of the previous civilization that was being erased. It's very likely that much of the realm lay in ruin for some time before these 'inheritors' were able to scour what remained and distort the storyline. So much to speculate on...I appreciate your comment and thank you for watching!
@@oldworldex Thanks for your great work! It's inspired me to post some slideshows of my own research. I haven't watched "The War For The World" yet, but I actually have the same photo of that airship!
Does that arch have a name (6:40)? School St?
I believe it's North Station
@@oldworldex they tore that awesome structure down. Probably there was a massive sculpture on top of the arch. they dont give a date as to when on Wikipedia however.
The name is ahch
No Dunkin Donuts?!
check.
great photos, not so much on the commentary
The gas powered model T’s parked in front of the extravagant westminister hotel and calling it progress is laughable.
Woot