Just a quick tip for those who may be experiencing the spinning problem with tricopters (like me !). On the flitetest forum I found the tip “..it may be necessary to set the rudder to -100 in the mixing editor”. That worked for me. It may however also be necessary to reverse the orientation of the rudder in your transmitter as well to eradicate this problem.
Yep been fighting this problem for the last few days . I made a tricopter 8 years ago, out of wood . And here I am with the same board doing it again and today was the day I figured this out going thru the menu . Just have to get the wobble out of auto level and that's down to too much vibration . Gummies already shipped. I have a programmer but the KK board flash tool won't recognize the USBASB.
@@joshsimmons8178 I built a V-tail quadcopter out of wood using the KK2 board, and it flies really well, except for it wobbling when it comes out of a turn. If you know the cause, I would be grateful to hear about it ! 👍
Thank you for your friendly explanation. I bought the KK board for the first time last week. I made a tri-copter with a KK board. I did not know how to set it up a lot. Finally, the gas you made and the gas you made were similar, so I applied your PID value as it is. Today's flight was surprisingly stable. I really like it. Thank you once again for your teaching.
I finally sat down and followed this video, the end was awesome for helping tune my copter! I haven't flown any medium to large multirotors in manual mode, no stability. Now my tricopter flies nicely in manual mode and thanks to David's help with the KK2 board. I am in love with flying these things again!
Thank you David for producing this video. I've been FPV flying a scratch built tri of your design for a couple of years now and mainly just fly in stabilize mode simply because I'd never really gotten it dialed in adequately under acro mode. I will revisit my KK2 settings again now with the help of your tutorial. Thanks again!
I have a much older version but was still able to get in the air on the first attempt thanks to your instructions around channel testing. I have spectrum and 2 channels were reversed and subtrim dial in was great. Now i just have to figure out my version of the gyro calibration and it should be great. Been sitting for 6 years, bought at swap meet and never knew exactly how to get it going. Big thanks, subbed.
David once again you came through for us avid watches of your bids, the kk2 board has had me head scratch ing for a while now cos I'm new to the hobby. Hopefully I will now be able to connect it all together, so many thanks..
Hi David, I love DIY tricopter because of all your work in Tricopter fields, even in the TV show that is Great! For this tutoral I realize that tow things missing in this video when I followed your steps. 1, didn't mention that " setting the throttle limit on the ESCs after receiver test done " 2, also forget to remain that "turn off self level " when tuning PI gain outdoor! I hope this can help people in future~ Thx again, David!
Very nice David. I might even have a go,at it seems pretty straight forward when you're doing it. At least this way we can use you as a reference. Thank you. It was also great to see you in England earlier this year. Suffolk is truly a magical place, especially when I am in it. Have fun
My tricopter is on the bench- getting ready to begin assembly. Hope to get it done before the snow so I can get some killer video on those cold and calm days when the air is thin and the sky is clear.
Thanks very much for doing this video David. I've done a lot of reading and watching videos to get a KK2.1 setup and you've very thoroughly summed up days of reading in one video.
I reflashed my board with the most up to date KK2.1 V1.9 Updated Firmware. It fly's great! thanks for all of your advice. I know this sounds crazy but in manual/ acro mode I lifted it right up with your third recommendation setting (toward the end of the video) and was surprised. Also if you can't get your board to flash and your running windows 8 google how to change your advanced setting in your computer/ laptop and it will allow it to flash with the right driver and firmware/ flashtool. Pickup the new 1.9 it's awesome.
Thanks David, I had a problem with the tail of my tricopter, it wasn't stopping on a dime. Now I lowered the servo filter to 30 and its much better. I have a digital servo. Thanks cheers.
Thanks for this video! My tricopter has never flown as well as it does with your suggested settings! I was going to by a different flight controller because the throttle control was such a pain in the ass to keep the tricopter at one altitude, but your settings fixed the problem.
thanks David some much better than what I've seen on the web so far. everyone seems to be into quads but I still like my tricopter cheers mate from Australia
Beautiful resource! I just built my own variation of your v.1 tricopter (over on the flitetest channel). It had it's maiden flight yesterday and flew phenomenally! :D This video is golden at explaining the different functions of the board. Thanks! I'll have it flying perfectly in no time.
Ok David. For a month i have been flying my scratchbuilt 585mm tricopter on a trusty KK2 board with lots of success... The tail however had a bit more wobble than is should have. I watched almost every tricopter setup and build you have done and decided to switch to Naze32 to get the Tail Tune function ti hopefully smooth out that wobble. Removed the KK and wired and programmed the Naze32 with Triflight. First off. It wont fly... Wont get off the ground with out the spin of death and the Tail servos (same ones that worked fine with the KK2) keep getting so hot that they burn out and one has even magic smoked... Not even in flight either. Just during the tail tune and leveling... The servos are not too tight, the servo isnt binding, they are fresh out of the box brand new emax 9g metal servos. I would like to stay with the superior Triflight programming but cant afford to keep burning servos and not flying... What am i doing wrong? What could the Naze be doing wrong since if i put the KK back on the tricopter it lifts off and controls fine and the servos stays ice cold... Also one other note. Even after tail tune when i go to arm, the Tail mech tips to the right. And wont control left past the center point. It stays completely right, in normal operation and with a servo tester the servo is centered and has fluid motion both ways. Help Me Please as I am attending one of my first Fly events in a week and would like it flying well!
David, as usual, great stuff. Just some notes for builders out there. kk2 mini when in ppm mode - remember that ppm signal must go on the Aile channel. that is the 4th from the bottom of kk2 mini. the mini does not have the 3 sets of pins for receiver input and it is easy to get caught up in just 1 x 3wire cable. also, David touched on it. there are 2 power rails for the motor/esc output side. m1 for kk2 board power. m2 + for servo and other power. I have found some servo's do not like the kk2 mini board. hk939mg for example. No setting will stop it jittering but a naze or cc3d does not have the issue. You can also set the self level drift to ensure it remains stationery(if you prefer self level mode). Painless does a good explanation of this. I found the ..19... steveis firmware a problem, dropped back to ...18 pro,,, and all is great. you also get same models as davids video. Apparently there is a version of the firmware with the equivalent of Naze's Horizon mode. From the few boards I have tried, the kk2 is for me the most stable and predictable board in the air. anyways that's my 2c.
Greetings from Canada! Thanks for the video David, I find your explanations easier to understand than others and very entertaining. Keep your enthusiasm, it is highly contagious and will spread the hobby like wildfire.
Thank you David! You are the main reason I built a tricopter and got into FPV and it is awesome. Greetings from Poland! P.S.: You should make more videos :)
Thank you, David, it's good to hear your voice again, FT is not the same since you left. I watched this although I am not yet into copters (fixed wings here ;-). May sound weird, but I really like the way you are explaining things...
Awesome video, not sure what I missed the first time setting everything up but after resetting up everything following the video we have success again....one side note tho, Im using a futaba analog servo and still need to set the yaw to -100 (I believe Ive read and seen everywhere that digital=-100 and analog=100) if I leave it in the positive range it just spins out. Everythings on the up and up now tho. Thanks again for the superb video and walk thru on building a Tricopter
Thank you very much! This video was very helpful for me setting up my first tricopter. Once I flashed my KK2 board to the latest KK2V1_1V19S1Pro firmware, I was able to select the settings that you show in the video. Flew great right off, I will tweak it as necessary. THANKS AGAIN!
Great video David, I can't remember seeing a better KK2 Programming video. The only thing that was left out that I would have included was ESC calibration.
Thanks David, you answered a lot of questions I had about the mini board. From looking at the regular board to the mini board I thought I messed up on the right flight control board. Also being a newbie I place all my trust in your experience as a RC pilot. Your videos are informative (flite test and your chanel RC Explorers). Thanks and keep us informed on your projects. Oh yeah I might have questions for you if I can't figure them out.
Hi David, I was wondering if you could do a detailed video on building a quadcopter. I am looking to build my own, and I am confused on how to set up ESC's program the flight controller, and how to choose the prop drives for it. Thanks!!
Hey David, on my KK 2.1 flashed with steveis latest firmware it shows everywhere about 125, although i have my Endpoint set at 100 ( 8:35 ). Should i put the endpoint back to where my board shows 100 as well? Does not a higher value in the board mean higher resolution? Thanks for everything you gave to the community, love it!
Wonderful Setup Video. Extremely thorough. Thank You so much for posting this video. This will be so helpful when I finish building my 2.6 which I am currently getting back to now that its cold outside and I have time to. Thank You for taking time from your busy schedule to make a great tool to get the Tricopter in the air with confidence.
Nice video Dave. I have the older kk2.0 what causes the tricopter yaw to want to snap back from where I moved it from? It does this from left or right. Everything else is perfect.
Great explanation of the PI settings. Is the "bridge across the signal pins" trick meant to work on a Spektrum receiver? Even matching and double checking the pin-outs, my tricopter wouldn't fly. I resorted back to using the mess of 5 jumper cables.
Thank you for your incredibly clear explanation of the KK2 board. Now I can feel good about purchasing one. FliteTest hasn't been the same without you. Thank you.
I have some tech questions and need assistance in regards to where the Rudder output (yaw) needs to go...I have an open rudder port on my copter and I am using the KK2.1 HC flight controller. I have everything set up on the FC as far as I know via your video. Some of the options you have on the KK2.0 is not available on the KK2.1 HC..I think they streamlined programming for this version, like the bubble, it is NOT within this firmware out of the box. I have the Dragon Fly setup from Flite Test with the Tough Tilt yaw servo. This servo is connected to my Spektrum AR9020's RUDDER port and I have all ESC's including the Tough Tilts mounted flight motor ESC running to the corresponding M-ports on the KK2.1HC FC, and all are in order and plugged in according to the FC setup for Tricopter in the firmware that is displayed on the LCD with help from your walk through on this video. Things I have tried for trouble shooting so far really are limited next to actual connection issues, but everything is where it needs to be and I get all the standby tones when the board is in menu mode etc; so far I have bound using both 11ms and 22ms, as well as DSM2 and DSMX (I'm a Spektrum/Horizon user) with no motor response from the copter once I have all parameters put into the FC and loaded. I do get a message on the board and it displays Warning or something along the lines of "No Yaw Input detected"...and that makes sense, since there is not input plugged in on the FC for the RUDDER channel...I only have an ESC to plug into M4 port on the FC (my set up and where the esc is recognized) and then I have the Tough Tilt servo plugged into my Spektrum RX for its communication and actuation. My limited experience is still telling me that I know we need to put something into the RUDDER port of the FC to have it recognized by it, but as I said I only have an ESC to plug into one side of the FC and then the Tough Tilt servo to plug into the RX, so where does the RUDDER port on the FC get connected to? My next attempt was to use an non-amplified Y harness (Cant amplify with Spektrum RX's-for reasons they give but I don't go too much in depth beyond that they say don't) to run a servo connector from the FC RUDDER channel to one end of the Y and then run the other servo connector from the RX to the remaining port of the Y connector; issue here though my limited experience is telling me, is that I'll have servo signal going into one side of the Y, and then have the board output for RUDDER going into the other...which would simply just satisfy the issue of the FC not having anything connected to the the RUDDER port and RUDDER port on the the RX at the same time...I look at it and it only solves the issue of having a port that is not plugged into a anything...the two may be split but one is for out signal from the FC that will Y into the Tough Tilt servo; one is ESC/FC related and the other is a stand alone simple actuating servo....this is where I am stumped. I need some help with how this Dragon Fly is supposed to be set up in my configuration...They Tough Tilt is throwing the wrench a little here..but it could be another factor possibly...See below. Now, I did have to run a Castle Creations (CC BEC 10amp 4.9-9v) from one of my ESC's since my 30A Spider ESC's DO NOT HAVE BEC's. I spliced the CCBEC into my M1 port on my KK2.1 for proper 5v signal (The kk2.1 requires signal to go to M1 port, and it was taken by M1 ESC, so I had to tap the connector for M1 so I could have signal where it was needed AND have 5v to power or give that signal in that port per KK2.1 HC instructions). Further, I also have that BEC split into the BATT terminal of my RX, so the BEC runs the RX and the FC so one is not dependent on the other when both are plugged in getting power. So the BEC is spliced and split two (2) ways from the battery, one into the M1 port and the other into the BATT port on my RX. One thing that does happen is that if I unplug one or the other I still have power to one of them due to the BEC being split and the FC and RX being connected. So I don't know if this could be the issue possibly as well? I spliced and split the BEC due to me thinking I wasn't getting power to the RX due to no lighting of any LEDS; I learned that there is only a single orange LED on my RX and that won't come on and stay steady, as well as with the satellite telemetry receivers unless I BIND it first...so once I split the BEC I discovered I really didn't need to because once the bind plug was plugged in I was showing power. I separated the BEC from the RX and kept it on the FC M1 for signal and sure enough it turned on and went into bind mode, so the RX was being jumped from 5v supplied by the the BEC from the ESC; I kept the BEC plugged in the way it is thinking now I will have constant power to each one when they are both plugged in from the BEC, my limited experience says that's not necessarily a bad thing...that it kind of works out better especially with the telemetry satellite receivers taking a little more amp draw anyways, I was also told that it wasn't a bad idea and probably worked out for the best accidentally LOL. Lots of that in the hobby world I think? LOL. Sorry so long...just need some help... ANYONE HELP lol Ross
Thanks a lot for this great vid. i tried to do as you told, but still my tri wobbles a bit. My P and I settings are even less than yours... It seems that my yaw servo (BMS-380MAX ) jitters a bit, could it be the cause? Or is simply my yaw P setting still too high?
As soon as I power on my V3 Tricopter, the rudder moves all the way to the left and is constantly trying to move it further to the left. The ESC on the rudder motor gets warm while this happens, and only the ESC on the rudder, not the other two. I use the KK mini 2.1.5 with Steveis 19S pro, and the FrSky Taranis+ and D8R-II plus. The rudder never moves when I touch the controls on the radio. What could I've done wrong here? I followed this setup video and the settings are the same as those you've shown. It's probably some noob mistake as this is my first build.
Hi David, Great movie! I have done everything you have shown us but when I boot up my tricopter it bleebs and then the servo starts moving left to right and when I touch the controls nothing happens. what Did I do wrong and how do I fix This?
Hi I followed this video for my tricopter. Everything looked to be working great but upon further inspection I can not arm the tri. On the kk and error appears that says 'check throttle levels'. Please help! Also the motors will not spin when I use the check motor outputs.
I have followed all your videos. I have an issue. I have a scorpion style tricopter with KK2. It flies great, but when I try to land, I ease down the throttle and at about a foot off the ground it drops like a rock. Is there a throttle setting that I am overlooking?
David Windestål Hey there, I got the kk2 board and I set it up but the tail servo doesn't work. I'm guessing that it doesn't receive power but i'm not certain, it could be it's not properly connected to my transmitter or receiver or something. If you could help me out I would be really grateful.
Hi David ! Another really helpful video ! Thx for sharing your knowledge yet again. I'm trying to tune in my 540 sized Tee Copter using a KK2 board and the rudder ( or yaw ) seems a little off in that the copter flies ok but starts to rotate slowly round the axis. Should the KK2 board be fixed in the c of g position please and if not would this affect flight characteristics ? ? ? Cheers David !
hey David, thank you so much for this video did help lot of people !! so i have question just finished my HJ_Y3 tricopter and Im using kk2.1 board but i'm having trouble with servo it wiggles so much and making weird noise.. how can I do to fix that? thank you
Hi David and fellow tri fly men,I have a question ,I have seen in other videos that you have to remove the red wire from the reciver input to motor 3 as not to have a paraell going to the becs on the esc ? does this have to be done ? and what happens if you dont remove the wire as stated in some videos and it allso says it in the hobby king manual ! I didnt see you do that in your video David can you explain it for me as iam new to Tricopters and the KK2 F C B iam allmost finished my biuld of the hobbyking Fibglass Tri Copter this is the only thing holding me up ,thanks.
David, great video. I have one question about adding expo on transmitter. Adding expo to soften the mid stick or make it more aggressive when you said 30% everything. Because 30% on futaba transmitter will make it aggressive unless I put -30% of soften it. Is that including 30% on throttle also or just channel 1,2 and 4? thanks and looking forward to your answer.
Hi David, what can i do if the Acc Bubble is reversed. You point with your fingers to the edge and the bubble follows you. If i tip an edge it goes the opposite direction. Please help
Hello....David. Came across your video. Having recently purchased a KK mini. Thought your video was great. Thanks for the explanations. So can I assume that you have....when you cut the servo plug into 2 and split the wire. When you plugged it into the rx that you were plugging it into the signal for for ail,ele,rud? I get what you did with single cable to aux. But again was this only to the signal on the rx ? Thanks so much.
Good video David. I'll be setting up a simplecopter with this video this weekend. Wanting to try fpv on tri and see if I like it better than with quad as I totally love the look of your mini-tri kit and will order if I decided I like the feel of the tri-copter better than the quad for fpv.
hi david I build my first quardcoppter and my problem is my kk 2.1.5 with 1.6 firmware is not show recevier test all are zero when I moving my stick. I am using flysky ct6b transmitter and I bind it please tell me what going on thans
Hey Dave . I have the wooden tricoptor you designed, and I switched out the DT 750, for sunny sky 800, running CF props, have bad vibration at half throttle on the tell motor. I've tried everything. It runs smooth untill half, and not bad full. Have any ideas?
Question for you I have the Trifecta and the mini KK board with 1.19 fw loaded I have the recommended turnegy servo it's a digital metal gear but when i put it in high it start to wiggle to left and right before i even arm so something is for sure wrong, i seen some guy's having issue with the servo and i am not sure if my issue when i fly it is the servo but the tail wiggle a bit i have this settings p at 60 and 20 i at 60 and 20 yaw at 40 servo filter at 50 So is it my setting Or a bad servo Cheer's Per
Hi there, I followed your video and set my "sub trim" to all zero but when I do I cannot arm, is there something else I need to do or something wrong? It's fine if I leave it back to default though...
At the end of the video where David explains P&I and stick scaling it would be helpful if we could see his hands on the transmitter.... Don't you think?
hi David, I just started with my first tricopter ,(HK rotorbits tricopter and KK2 hardcase . Most of the info in your video I can do step by step but when checking the gyro bubble etc this is not in my menu ?? the KK has version 2.15 inside! do you have any advise or video links to go on as i'm getting a bit flustered thanks a lot , regards Arnoud
Greetings David I have one cwestion I have a kk version 2.0 and it has a at mega 324p4 how can I flash this board, in the program kk multi copter flash tool 0.77 I can not find the controler, and I'm using the usbasp 6 pin conector, the only thing I see is that the display back light is glowing, can you please help me
when my kk2 board was factory new, I didn't have the programming cable for it yet, so I built my tricopter with it as is. I was able to push the throttle down and to the left or right to arm and disarm. Since then, I've flashed it with davies, and followed all of your settings exactly, but I cannot get it to arm. Any clues to what might be wrong?
Dsar can u tell me i m building a tricopter with apm and six channel radio with i put my servo in mot out 7 servo dosnt move do i need 7 channel radio or i m doing something wrong
Does anyone know if the "drunken sailor syndrome" has been eliminated from KK2 firmwares? I remember back in early 2014 I was still experiencing in autolevel mode. After a while it would start drifting to one side, requiring me to give more and more input to keep it hovering... Horrible... It had to do with the math running accelerometers. Is it still a problem in auto level/self level mode?
Hi, i have a HJ-y3 tricopter with a kk2.1.5 board steveis 1.7S2pro firmware, it fly's ok but no where as good as my quad copter with the same board and firmware, since the kk2 is placed mainly up the front on my tricopter do i need to adjust the option called "board offset" located in the second misc setting? if not, what is the board offset option used for? Thanks
hey david im must say im impressed with your kknowledge on mutirotors. im hooking up a futaba FP-R127DF dual converstion fm 7 channel 72mhz receiver to the kk2.1 board and i must say im having some trouble could you point me in the right direction on this info if there is such a place and thanks a bunch david
Brilliant info and very well communicated. I have watched plenty of videos on PID tuning but this is two thumbs up!👍 👍 Thankyou. I am just building my first Tri-copter with a KK2 I'll follow it to the letter😊
Hi David :) My KK board gets no input from my spektrum dsmx ar610 receiver, however a cheap hobbyking one works fine. I have tested the dsxm radio system, both tx and ex works fine. I'm running stock 1.6 hobbyking firmware called "hextronic". Is there any reason why it won't work? Should I flash the board before dsmx rx works? Thanks
I have a quick question my T copter flies great when just flying around. But I have this problem when I do a punch out, (full throttle straight up not using ail or elev)The tail motor seems to lag behind and the front pitches up and it wants to do a backflip. Is that an I or p gain issue? Kyle
hi David, i bought a scorpion li po batter, it has 4 pins on it and the kk2 board has only 3 :S can i just cut it and attach the 3 pin wire? can I do that? or is that gonna kill me?
I am a big fan of yours. Especially when you were with Flite test.. I am however confused. You posted a chart of numbers, but went out to fly and seemed to have changed the numbers completely. I assume the numbers you posted were starting points?
MPU6050 Settings? I'm Flying the KK2-version 1.9, I've not found anything relating to this type of setting in my firmware version, is there another way to fine tune this area of my KK2 without re-flashing with the same version as show in this tutorial? Or, is this a setting in the 1.9 version that is a default only setting?
I just got my tricopter and built it with a KK mini board. I tested everything with the stock firmware and everything was good. I went ahead and updated the firmware to Stevie's 1.19S1 (have tried 1.18S1 too) and the rudder servo isn't working. Looking at the KK board, I get receiver inputs on this channel but nothing on the output. The servo works fine straight to the receiver. I'm not sure what is going on.
David you looked so bad ass in ''supplies'' : ) 2 questions. Would the rf gun really work? Also I have a blade 350qx. I want to know if I doubled the esc's and motors using the exsisting leads would it overload the circuit's and would it still stay stable? I would use a over/under ''stack the props'' set up on a 450 frame. Sorry for being off topic here...
Hi David Are you using a digital servo or analog in your setup. The reason that I'm asking is because I'm using a digital servo and I can't take out the shakingness I try the servo filter but it doesn't work so I was wondering if it will make a difference. Thanks for the video it help me a lot
Just a quick tip for those who may be experiencing the spinning problem with tricopters (like me !). On the flitetest forum I found the tip “..it may be necessary to set the rudder to -100 in the mixing editor”. That worked for me. It may however also be necessary to reverse the orientation of the rudder in your transmitter as well to eradicate this problem.
Yep been fighting this problem for the last few days . I made a tricopter 8 years ago, out of wood . And here I am with the same board doing it again and today was the day I figured this out going thru the menu . Just have to get the wobble out of auto level and that's down to too much vibration . Gummies already shipped. I have a programmer but the KK board flash tool won't recognize the USBASB.
@@joshsimmons8178 I built a V-tail quadcopter out of wood using the KK2 board, and it flies really well, except for it wobbling when it comes out of a turn. If you know the cause, I would be grateful to hear about it ! 👍
Thank you for your friendly explanation.
I bought the KK board for the first time last week.
I made a tri-copter with a KK board.
I did not know how to set it up a lot.
Finally, the gas you made and the gas you made were similar, so I applied your PID value as it is.
Today's flight was surprisingly stable.
I really like it.
Thank you once again for your teaching.
I finally sat down and followed this video, the end was awesome for helping tune my copter! I haven't flown any medium to large multirotors in manual mode, no stability. Now my tricopter flies nicely in manual mode and thanks to David's help with the KK2 board. I am in love with flying these things again!
Thank you David for producing this video. I've been FPV flying a scratch built tri of your design for a couple of years now and mainly just fly in stabilize mode simply because I'd never really gotten it dialed in adequately under acro mode. I will revisit my KK2 settings again now with the help of your tutorial. Thanks again!
I have a much older version but was still able to get in the air on the first attempt thanks to your instructions around channel testing. I have spectrum and 2 channels were reversed and subtrim dial in was great. Now i just have to figure out my version of the gyro calibration and it should be great. Been sitting for 6 years, bought at swap meet and never knew exactly how to get it going. Big thanks, subbed.
David once again you came through for us avid watches of your bids, the kk2 board has had me head scratch ing for a while now cos I'm new to the hobby. Hopefully I will now be able to connect it all together, so many thanks..
Hi David, I love DIY tricopter because of all your work in Tricopter fields, even in the TV show that is Great! For this tutoral I realize that tow things missing in this video when I followed your steps.
1, didn't mention that " setting the throttle limit on the ESCs after receiver test done "
2, also forget to remain that "turn off self level " when tuning PI gain outdoor!
I hope this can help people in future~
Thx again, David!
Very nice David.
I might even have a go,at it seems pretty straight forward when you're doing it.
At least this way we can use you as a reference. Thank you.
It was also great to see you in England earlier this year.
Suffolk is truly a magical place, especially when I am in it. Have fun
My tricopter is on the bench- getting ready to begin assembly.
Hope to get it done before the snow so I can get some killer video on those cold and calm days when the air is thin and the sky is clear.
IF using channel 7 for the tail servo, where do we plug the gimbal servos?
at 7:50 can that only be done with certain radio's?
I use KK2.0 and mini KK2.1 but I learnt a lot new things watching this video. Thank you.
Thanks very much for doing this video David. I've done a lot of reading and watching videos to get a KK2.1 setup and you've very thoroughly summed up days of reading in one video.
Hi David, it is good to see you back, thanks for all the info on the KK2 mini board.
Thanks David, this was very clear. Flight Test is not the same anymore since the time you left...
I reflashed my board with the most up to date KK2.1 V1.9 Updated Firmware. It fly's great! thanks for all of your advice. I know this sounds crazy but in manual/ acro mode I lifted it right up with your third recommendation setting (toward the end of the video) and was surprised. Also if you can't get your board to flash and your running windows 8 google how to change your advanced setting in your computer/ laptop and it will allow it to flash with the right driver and firmware/ flashtool. Pickup the new 1.9 it's awesome.
Thanks David, I had a problem with the tail of my tricopter, it wasn't stopping on a dime. Now I lowered the servo filter to 30 and its much better. I have a digital servo. Thanks cheers.
Thanks for this video! My tricopter has never flown as well as it does with your suggested settings! I was going to by a different flight controller because the throttle control was such a pain in the ass to keep the tricopter at one altitude, but your settings fixed the problem.
thanks David some much better than what I've seen on the web so far. everyone seems to be into quads but I still like my tricopter cheers mate from Australia
Beautiful resource! I just built my own variation of your v.1 tricopter (over on the flitetest channel). It had it's maiden flight yesterday and flew phenomenally! :D This video is golden at explaining the different functions of the board. Thanks! I'll have it flying perfectly in no time.
Thank you, David! This is by far the most informative and comprehensive fc setup video I've seen yet.
i dint know what i wouldve done without this video thank u so much david super helpful
Good video David, it is nice to see someone use one of the lesser known firmwares on the KK2 board.
Ok David. For a month i have been flying my scratchbuilt 585mm tricopter on a trusty KK2 board with lots of success... The tail however had a bit more wobble than is should have. I watched almost every tricopter setup and build you have done and decided to switch to Naze32 to get the Tail Tune function ti hopefully smooth out that wobble. Removed the KK and wired and programmed the Naze32 with Triflight. First off. It wont fly... Wont get off the ground with out the spin of death and the Tail servos (same ones that worked fine with the KK2) keep getting so hot that they burn out and one has even magic smoked... Not even in flight either. Just during the tail tune and leveling... The servos are not too tight, the servo isnt binding, they are fresh out of the box brand new emax 9g metal servos.
I would like to stay with the superior Triflight programming but cant afford to keep burning servos and not flying...
What am i doing wrong? What could the Naze be doing wrong since if i put the KK back on the tricopter it lifts off and controls fine and the servos stays ice cold...
Also one other note. Even after tail tune when i go to arm, the Tail mech tips to the right. And wont control left past the center point. It stays completely right, in normal operation and with a servo tester the servo is centered and has fluid motion both ways.
Help Me Please as I am attending one of my first Fly events in a week and would like it flying well!
David, as usual, great stuff.
Just some notes for builders out there.
kk2 mini when in ppm mode - remember that ppm signal must go on the Aile channel.
that is the 4th from the bottom of kk2 mini. the mini does not have the 3 sets of pins for receiver input and it is easy to get caught up in just 1 x 3wire cable.
also, David touched on it. there are 2 power rails for the motor/esc output side.
m1 for kk2 board power.
m2 + for servo and other power.
I have found some servo's do not like the kk2 mini board. hk939mg for example. No setting will stop it jittering but a naze or cc3d does not have the issue.
You can also set the self level drift to ensure it remains stationery(if you prefer self level mode). Painless does a good explanation of this.
I found the ..19... steveis firmware a problem, dropped back to ...18 pro,,, and all is great. you also get same models as davids video.
Apparently there is a version of the firmware with the equivalent of Naze's Horizon mode.
From the few boards I have tried, the kk2 is for me the most stable and predictable board in the air.
anyways that's my 2c.
Seeing the beard was a shock!! I didn't expect it at all, but I hope all is well over in Sweden
Greetings from Canada! Thanks for the video David, I find your explanations easier to understand than others and very entertaining. Keep your enthusiasm, it is highly contagious and will spread the hobby like wildfire.
he does a great job telling you what to do and why. i allways go to this vedio when i making a tricopter,
Thank you David! You are the main reason I built a tricopter and got into FPV and it is awesome. Greetings from Poland! P.S.: You should make more videos :)
Thank you, David, it's good to hear your voice again, FT is not the same since you left.
I watched this although I am not yet into copters (fixed wings here ;-).
May sound weird, but I really like the way you are explaining things...
Awesome video, not sure what I missed the first time setting everything up but after resetting up everything following the video we have success again....one side note tho, Im using a futaba analog servo and still need to set the yaw to -100 (I believe Ive read and seen everywhere that digital=-100 and analog=100) if I leave it in the positive range it just spins out. Everythings on the up and up now tho. Thanks again for the superb video and walk thru on building a Tricopter
Thank you very much! This video was very helpful for me setting up my first tricopter. Once I flashed my KK2 board to the latest KK2V1_1V19S1Pro firmware, I was able to select the settings that you show in the video. Flew great right off, I will tweak it as necessary. THANKS AGAIN!
Great video David, I can't remember seeing a better KK2 Programming video. The only thing that was left out that I would have included was ESC calibration.
Thanks David, you answered a lot of questions I had about the mini board. From looking at the regular board to the mini board I thought I messed up on the right flight control board. Also being a newbie I place all my trust in your experience as a RC pilot. Your videos are informative (flite test and your chanel RC Explorers). Thanks and keep us informed on your projects. Oh yeah I might have questions for you if I can't figure them out.
Hi David, I was wondering if you could do a detailed video on building a quadcopter. I am looking to build my own, and I am confused on how to set up ESC's program the flight controller, and how to choose the prop drives for it. Thanks!!
Hey David,
on my KK 2.1 flashed with steveis latest firmware it shows everywhere about 125, although i have my Endpoint set at 100 ( 8:35 ). Should i put the endpoint back to where my board shows 100 as well? Does not a higher value in the board mean higher resolution?
Thanks for everything you gave to the community, love it!
Wonderful Setup Video. Extremely thorough. Thank You so much for posting this video. This will be so helpful when I finish building my 2.6 which I am currently getting back to now that its cold outside and I have time to. Thank You for taking time from your busy schedule to make a great tool to get the Tricopter in the air with confidence.
Nice video Dave. I have the older kk2.0 what causes the tricopter yaw to want to snap back from where I moved it from? It does this from left or right. Everything else is perfect.
Thank you, I have been flying my tricopter for a year and this helped get some of the kinks out!
this helped me a lot.. for learning...!!! Also, would you like to explain autopilot in rc planes.. how can we make it happen..
Great explanation of the PI settings. Is the "bridge across the signal pins" trick meant to work on a Spektrum receiver? Even matching and double checking the pin-outs, my tricopter wouldn't fly. I resorted back to using the mess of 5 jumper cables.
Thank you for your incredibly clear explanation of the KK2 board. Now I can feel good about purchasing one. FliteTest hasn't been the same without you. Thank you.
I have some tech questions and need assistance in regards to where the Rudder output (yaw) needs to go...I have an open rudder port on my copter and I am using the KK2.1 HC flight controller.
I have everything set up on the FC as far as I know via your video. Some of the options you have on the KK2.0 is not available on the KK2.1 HC..I think they streamlined programming for this version, like the bubble, it is NOT within this firmware out of the box.
I have the Dragon Fly setup from Flite Test with the Tough Tilt yaw servo. This servo is connected to my Spektrum AR9020's RUDDER port and I have all ESC's including the Tough Tilts mounted flight motor ESC running to the corresponding M-ports on the KK2.1HC FC, and all are in order and plugged in according to the FC setup for Tricopter in the firmware that is displayed on the LCD with help from your walk through on this video.
Things I have tried for trouble shooting so far really are limited next to actual connection issues, but everything is where it needs to be and I get all the standby tones when the board is in menu mode etc; so far I have bound using both 11ms and 22ms, as well as DSM2 and DSMX (I'm a Spektrum/Horizon user) with no motor response from the copter once I have all parameters put into the FC and loaded. I do get a message on the board and it displays Warning or something along the lines of "No Yaw Input detected"...and that makes sense, since there is not input plugged in on the FC for the RUDDER channel...I only have an ESC to plug into M4 port on the FC (my set up and where the esc is recognized) and then I have the Tough Tilt servo plugged into my Spektrum RX for its communication and actuation.
My limited experience is still telling me that I know we need to put something into the RUDDER port of the FC to have it recognized by it, but as I said I only have an ESC to plug into one side of the FC and then the Tough Tilt servo to plug into the RX, so where does the RUDDER port on the FC get connected to?
My next attempt was to use an non-amplified Y harness (Cant amplify with Spektrum RX's-for reasons they give but I don't go too much in depth beyond that they say don't) to run a servo connector from the FC RUDDER channel to one end of the Y and then run the other servo connector from the RX to the remaining port of the Y connector; issue here though my limited experience is telling me, is that I'll have servo signal going into one side of the Y, and then have the board output for RUDDER going into the other...which would simply just satisfy the issue of the FC not having anything connected to the the RUDDER port and RUDDER port on the the RX at the same time...I look at it and it only solves the issue of having a port that is not plugged into a anything...the two may be split but one is for out signal from the FC that will Y into the Tough Tilt servo; one is ESC/FC related and the other is a stand alone simple actuating servo....this is where I am stumped.
I need some help with how this Dragon Fly is supposed to be set up in my configuration...They Tough Tilt is throwing the wrench a little here..but it could be another factor possibly...See below.
Now, I did have to run a Castle Creations (CC BEC 10amp 4.9-9v) from one of my ESC's since my 30A Spider ESC's DO NOT HAVE BEC's. I spliced the CCBEC into my M1 port on my KK2.1 for proper 5v signal (The kk2.1 requires signal to go to M1 port, and it was taken by M1 ESC, so I had to tap the connector for M1 so I could have signal where it was needed AND have 5v to power or give that signal in that port per KK2.1 HC instructions).
Further, I also have that BEC split into the BATT terminal of my RX, so the BEC runs the RX and the FC so one is not dependent on the other when both are plugged in getting power. So the BEC is spliced and split two (2) ways from the battery, one into the M1 port and the other into the BATT port on my RX. One thing that does happen is that if I unplug one or the other I still have power to one of them due to the BEC being split and the FC and RX being connected. So I don't know if this could be the issue possibly as well? I spliced and split the BEC due to me thinking I wasn't getting power to the RX due to no lighting of any LEDS; I learned that there is only a single orange LED on my RX and that won't come on and stay steady, as well as with the satellite telemetry receivers unless I BIND it first...so once I split the BEC I discovered I really didn't need to because once the bind plug was plugged in I was showing power. I separated the BEC from the RX and kept it on the FC M1 for signal and sure enough it turned on and went into bind mode, so the RX was being jumped from 5v supplied by the the BEC from the ESC; I kept the BEC plugged in the way it is thinking now I will have constant power to each one when they are both plugged in from the BEC, my limited experience says that's not necessarily a bad thing...that it kind of works out better especially with the telemetry satellite receivers taking a little more amp draw anyways, I was also told that it wasn't a bad idea and probably worked out for the best accidentally LOL. Lots of that in the hobby world I think? LOL.
Sorry so long...just need some help...
ANYONE HELP lol
Ross
my quadcopter show yaw input error and it become disarm before lift please tell me to solve this problem
Thanks a lot for this great vid. i tried to do as you told, but still my tri wobbles a bit. My P and I settings are even less than yours... It seems that my yaw servo (BMS-380MAX ) jitters a bit, could it be the cause? Or is simply my yaw P setting still too high?
As soon as I power on my V3 Tricopter, the rudder moves all the way to the left and is constantly trying to move it further to the left. The ESC on the rudder motor gets warm while this happens, and only the ESC on the rudder, not the other two. I use the KK mini 2.1.5 with Steveis 19S pro, and the FrSky Taranis+ and D8R-II plus. The rudder never moves when I touch the controls on the radio. What could I've done wrong here? I followed this setup video and the settings are the same as those you've shown. It's probably some noob mistake as this is my first build.
I'm just glad the ESC beep is back!
Thanks for sharing David. I just assembled a Turnigy Talon Tricopter and this was invaluable information.
Hi David, Great movie!
I have done everything you have shown us but when I boot up my tricopter it bleebs and then the servo starts moving left to right and when I touch the controls nothing happens. what Did I do wrong and how do I fix This?
Thanks, this is also how I connected it to my X8R. Today was my first time flying a tricopter. So good.
Hi I followed this video for my tricopter. Everything looked to be working great but upon further inspection I can not arm the tri. On the kk and error appears that says 'check throttle levels'. Please help! Also the motors will not spin when I use the check motor outputs.
I have followed all your videos. I have an issue. I have a scorpion style tricopter with KK2. It flies great, but when I try to land, I ease down the throttle and at about a foot off the ground it drops like a rock. Is there a throttle setting that I am overlooking?
David Windestål Hey there, I got the kk2 board and I set it up but the tail servo doesn't work. I'm guessing that it doesn't receive power but i'm not certain, it could be it's not properly connected to my transmitter or receiver or something. If you could help me out I would be really grateful.
Hi David ! Another really helpful video ! Thx for sharing your knowledge yet again. I'm trying to tune in my 540 sized Tee Copter using a KK2 board and the rudder ( or yaw ) seems a little off in that the copter flies ok but starts to rotate slowly round the axis. Should the KK2 board be fixed in the c of g position please and if not would this affect flight characteristics ? ? ? Cheers David !
looking forward to the naze32 setup video
hey David, thank you so much for this video did help lot of people !! so i have question just finished my HJ_Y3 tricopter and Im using kk2.1 board but i'm having trouble with servo it wiggles so much and making weird noise.. how can I do to fix that? thank you
Hi David and fellow tri fly men,I have a question ,I have seen in other videos that you have to remove the red wire from the reciver input to motor 3 as not to have a paraell going to the becs on the esc ? does this have to be done ? and what happens if you dont remove the wire as stated in some videos and it allso says it in the hobby king manual ! I didnt see you do that in your video David can you explain it for me as iam new to Tricopters and the KK2 F C B iam allmost finished my biuld of the hobbyking Fibglass Tri Copter this is the only thing holding me up ,thanks.
David, great video. I have one question about adding expo on transmitter. Adding expo to soften the mid stick or make it more aggressive when you said 30% everything. Because 30% on futaba transmitter will make it aggressive unless I put -30% of soften it. Is that including 30% on throttle also or just channel 1,2 and 4? thanks and looking forward to your answer.
David, really appreciate your time doing this for us. Very helpful mate, cheers!
Hi David, what can i do if the Acc Bubble is reversed. You point with your fingers to the edge and the bubble follows you. If i tip an edge it goes the opposite direction. Please help
Hello....David. Came across your video. Having recently purchased a KK mini. Thought your video was great. Thanks for the explanations. So can I assume that you have....when you cut the servo plug into 2 and split the wire. When you plugged it into the rx that you were plugging it into the signal for for ail,ele,rud? I get what you did with single cable to aux. But again was this only to the signal on the rx ? Thanks so much.
Good video David. I'll be setting up a simplecopter with this video this weekend. Wanting to try fpv on tri and see if I like it better than with quad as I totally love the look of your mini-tri kit and will order if I decided I like the feel of the tri-copter better than the quad for fpv.
this is great, but can you please show us how to flash the kk2 with the software you used
hi david I build my first quardcoppter and my problem is my kk 2.1.5 with 1.6 firmware is not show recevier test all are zero when I moving my stick. I am using flysky ct6b transmitter and I bind it please tell me what going on thans
Hey Dave . I have the wooden tricoptor you designed, and I switched out the DT 750, for sunny sky 800, running CF props, have bad vibration at half throttle on the tell motor. I've tried everything. It runs smooth untill half, and not bad full. Have any ideas?
I noticed you have the GPS hooked up on the tricopter, can you cover sensors and how to use them?
Question for you
I have the Trifecta and the mini KK board with 1.19 fw loaded
I have the recommended turnegy servo it's a digital metal gear but when i put it in high it start to wiggle to left and right before i even arm so something is for sure wrong, i seen some guy's having issue with the servo and i am not sure if my issue when i fly it is the servo but the tail wiggle a bit i have this settings
p at 60 and 20 i at 60 and 20
yaw at 40
servo filter at 50
So is it my setting
Or a bad servo
Cheer's
Per
Hi there, I followed your video and set my "sub trim" to all zero but when I do I cannot arm, is there something else I need to do or something wrong? It's fine if I leave it back to default though...
hey man i am new to this and i wanna know what happens when you dont flash kk board
I am using a quadcopter(KK2.0). could not arm it. what signal at which value are required to arm kk2?
Please how to fix my receiver test throttle stays ideal although I change it on the remote control
At the end of the video where David explains P&I and stick scaling it would be helpful if we could see his hands on the transmitter....
Don't you think?
Hi David, I am having a flysky receiver fs-t6 how to connect it to input of kk 2.1.5 please help me out i am having my mini project to submit.
hi David,
I just started with my first tricopter ,(HK rotorbits tricopter and KK2 hardcase .
Most of the info in your video I can do step by step but when checking the gyro bubble etc this is not in my menu ??
the KK has version 2.15 inside!
do you have any advise or video links to go on as i'm getting a bit flustered
thanks a lot , regards Arnoud
Greetings David I have one cwestion I have a kk version 2.0 and it has a at mega 324p4 how can I flash this board, in the program kk multi copter flash tool 0.77 I can not find the controler, and I'm using the usbasp 6 pin conector, the only thing I see is that the display back light is glowing, can you please help me
when my kk2 board was factory new, I didn't have the programming cable for it yet, so I built my tricopter with it as is. I was able to push the throttle down and to the left or right to arm and disarm. Since then, I've flashed it with davies, and followed all of your settings exactly, but I cannot get it to arm. Any clues to what might be wrong?
Dsar can u tell me i m building a tricopter with apm and six channel radio with i put my servo in mot out 7 servo dosnt move do i need 7 channel radio or i m doing something wrong
Does anyone know if the "drunken sailor syndrome" has been eliminated from KK2 firmwares?
I remember back in early 2014 I was still experiencing in autolevel mode. After a while it would start drifting to one side, requiring me to give more and more input to keep it hovering... Horrible...
It had to do with the math running accelerometers. Is it still a problem in auto level/self level mode?
Nice video! Do you have any comment on cppm? Do you prefer not to use it or any other reason you didn't explain it? Cheers!
Hi, i have a HJ-y3 tricopter with a kk2.1.5 board steveis 1.7S2pro firmware, it fly's ok but no where as good as my quad copter with the same board and firmware,
since the kk2 is placed mainly up the front on my tricopter do i need to adjust the option called "board offset" located in the second misc setting? if not, what is the board offset option used for? Thanks
hey david im must say im impressed with your kknowledge on mutirotors. im hooking up a futaba FP-R127DF dual converstion fm 7 channel 72mhz receiver to the kk2.1 board and i must say im having some trouble could you point me in the right direction on this info if there is such a place and thanks a bunch david
Brilliant info and very well communicated. I have watched plenty of videos on PID tuning but this is two thumbs up!👍 👍 Thankyou. I am just building my first Tri-copter with a KK2 I'll follow it to the letter😊
Definitely a video on the naze32 would be awesome! Or even the CC3D. Great video for the KK. Will help me with my next build for sure.
Hi David :)
My KK board gets no input from my spektrum dsmx ar610 receiver, however a cheap hobbyking one works fine. I have tested the dsxm radio system, both tx and ex works fine. I'm running stock 1.6 hobbyking firmware called "hextronic". Is there any reason why it won't work? Should I flash the board before dsmx rx works?
Thanks
Hi everyone, I can,t find the drivers for the usbasp programmer anywhere, i wonder if i should abort the kk2 projects. Any help would be appreciated
I have a quick question my T copter flies great when just flying around. But I have this problem when I do a punch out, (full throttle straight up not using ail or elev)The tail motor seems to lag behind and the front pitches up and it wants to do a backflip. Is that an I or p gain issue?
Kyle
What am I doing wrong if I can't see the MPU6050 settings
With the mini you can buy individual cables. I use them with other circuit boards can be bought from any good electronics store
hi David,
i bought a scorpion li po batter, it has 4 pins on it and the kk2 board has only 3 :S can i just cut it and attach the 3 pin wire? can I do that? or is that gonna kill me?
David can you do a video on flashing ESC's and control boards? Please
I am a big fan of yours. Especially when you were with Flite test.. I am however confused. You posted a chart of numbers, but went out to fly and seemed to have changed the numbers completely. I assume the numbers you posted were starting points?
What about the P I Gain Limit? I've never heard someone explain that very clearly and have always been somewhat confused on it.
MPU6050 Settings? I'm Flying the KK2-version 1.9, I've not found anything relating to this type of setting in my firmware version, is there another way to fine tune this area of my KK2 without re-flashing with the same version as show in this tutorial?
Or, is this a setting in the 1.9 version that is a default only setting?
I just got my tricopter and built it with a KK mini board. I tested everything with the stock firmware and everything was good. I went ahead and updated the firmware to Stevie's 1.19S1 (have tried 1.18S1 too) and the rudder servo isn't working. Looking at the KK board, I get receiver inputs on this channel but nothing on the output. The servo works fine straight to the receiver. I'm not sure what is going on.
sir do we need to calibrate all 4 BLDC to make them run simultaneously ? or should we use controller board to calibrate all 4 of them ?
Do you know how to bind the kk2 mini board to a spectrum satellite,I can't seem to do it
Hi David
Is there a text version of your KK2.1.5 board setting available to download and print out.
Thanks
David you looked so bad ass in ''supplies'' : ) 2 questions. Would the rf gun really work?
Also I have a blade 350qx. I want to know if I doubled the esc's and motors using the exsisting leads would it overload the circuit's and would it still stay stable? I would use a over/under ''stack the props'' set up on a 450 frame. Sorry for being off topic here...
Hi David
Are you using a digital servo or analog in your setup.
The reason that I'm asking is because I'm using a digital servo and I can't take out the shakingness I try the servo filter but it doesn't work so I was wondering if it will make a difference.
Thanks for the video it help me a lot
my Tri copter pulls to the left and forward when I punch it up hard Any fix's for this problem??