Liquefied natural gas could be the magic words for future transportation. LNG is not yet widely used in Germany and the EU, but it's much cleaner than diesel. We visit Germany's LNG pioneers. www.dw.com/en/t...
Natural gas does not have carbon to carbon bonds. So, soot will be less from it. Most of the energy from burning natural gas comes from hydrogen not carbon. Natural gas literally has four times the number of hydrogen atoms to carbon atoms.
@@Jemalacane0 hydrogen is still an indirect greenhouse gas, and actually has a far worse impact on climate change, as it perturbs the atmospheric distributions of methane and ozone, and therefore has a Global Warming Potential of 5.8 time that of Co2.
LPG Is bi-product of oil refinment... Its like 1% of the refinned oil other 99% Is diesel, gasoline, etc... Its destined to be just a cheap alternative for few people in cars and for camping...
LNG tells us nothing. CNG however tells us it's compressed natural gas usually methane. If it doesn't liquify at the pressure stored it's called CNG. Our automotive LPG is understood to be 50/50 butane/propane requiring hardly more than two atmosphere pressure to liquify . Pure propane LPG for domestic use requires maybe three or four atmosphere to liquify . Pure methane requires a high pressure to liquify and tanks weigh twice as much as propane or butane/propane tanks . Butane of course is in plastic cigarette lighters and needs less than an atmosphere pressure to liquify . It's not a good move these days to obsess over particulate emissions . We need more particulate emissions around 3 nm size to cool the planet. We got serious fires now because of covid virus grounding passenger jets from skies among other pullbacks. Our atmosphere is too clean and planet has now warmed up a little extra in last 18 months . At 420 ppm of co2 a sustained clean atmosphere will be catastrophic unless we get down to 350 and lower but that'll take a hundred years to get to 350 .
@@TheJirkal Not in Australia it isn't, we have LPG available at almost every gas station. My car runs on dedicated LPG and cost much less to fill the tank.
as far as I know lpg has more pollution than lng, and its more dangerous to the enviroment once its spilled it will spill on the ground meanwhile lng is just evaporates
.....How old is the diesel truck they wiped their finger on, on the exhaust? DPF diesels don't do that unless there's a problem with the DPF structurally..... This smells like a curated piece of news.
@@abdelmouinboukhalfa4684 - I was wondering that to! Has the diesel been ran for tens, hundreds or thousands of miles and the LNG may have only ran a few miles or tens of miles! If this was a court case, any attorney would contest this as evidence!
You think it's a good move . I don't think it's good. The supplies are precious and great for domestic and automotive and industry . Ships have evolved to use unprocessed bunker oil as fuel and it's a very green process .Also we need more particulate emissions from aircraft and diesel and industry to cool the planet .
I have a 1963 Mercedes Unimog converted to LPG since 2008. Only maintenance on the system was a check on the tank whicjmh is 150 litres usable. This is a six cylinder petrol engine and I have electronic ignition and the multiple electrode spark plugs. There is never any smoke from the engine. To start I switch the gas on and off a few times ans hit the button as there is no real choke.
You could not be more wrong. Lng is under high pressure and the gas cloud explodes the same as if you open the valve at home and lit a match. It's still ng
I would say the main issue is energy density. It is too low for LNG when compared to diesel. It is also too volatile and can not be stored nearly as easily as diesel. Certainly there are good use cases but I am pretty sure this trend will be short lived
Very negative. Its easy to put a spin on anything, just look at Musk's population videos. The only significant threat to life due to climate change that I'm aware of is the potential for methane to escape due to melting permafrost. It would make a lot of sense to burn that methane and create incentive to contain it rather than let it escape into the atmosphere. Rather than "terraforming" mars and putting all our effort into electric cars rather than improving the nuclear powerplants that could ultimately power them, technologies like these should receive much more attention. The distribution advantage of natural gas over gasoline is obvious to me. I'm waiting for a multi fuel vehicle with an independent electric powertrain from the manufacturers, but instead we get the 30 mpg Polaris slingshot.
That's b.s. they used a diesel truck about 15 to 20 years old . def and regin don't have any soot like when he wiped the exhaust Lng don't have the same hp as diesel the same engine
Thailand has had trucks running on gas for at least 10 years & more. This is nothing new. Truth is it’s cheap, but doesn’t have a good range due to small tanks.
I drive at FrieslandCampina with an lng volvo truck (range 800km with 190 kg lng perfect for 1 route we drive 10 hours in 12 hour shift) but the truth nobody talks about is what those ships that transfer those fuels from the persian gulf emit in the air.. Basicly in the big open ocean you don't have rules so they burn the cheapest dirtiest oil in their engines from those ships. Electric would be way better becouse it get rid of that co2 shipping cost..
I drive a Volvo FH LNG, it almost has the same power as the diesel counterpart, only downside is that you have to vent it like every 48 hours and the range is really low, one full tank (around 150 kg) only lasts like 350-400 km…
I would like to see a comparison of this ICE use of LNG to fuel cells. Theoretically ICE still wastes about 30% more of the chemical energy into heat. Fuel cells still need electric motors, but that opens up a path to increasing use of renewable sources when available.
@@ayushk4099 No it is not when talking about cars. Don't mix average and maximum efficiency.. Maximum efficiency may be 40%, but that doesn't matter because average efficiency during driving is only around 20%.
@@ayushk4099 Based on the fact that hybrids consume 25 % less fuel than regular diesel car, hybrids have around 25 % on average, during city driving it can be 35 %.
No matter what fuel you use, the common internal combustion engine has a lousy thermal efficiency of less than 15-20%, the rest is wasted as hot exhaust.
@@jooch_exe Even from an incremental improvement perspective, LNG for domestic civilian transport (cars, trucks, buses), LNG makes no sense - it is liquified only for long distance ship transport in very large low pressure storage tanks. Once within Germany, high pressure CNG makes more sense.
@@MariAmmaSar What’s safer, lower pressure, dense liquified natural gas that doesn’t burn without first boiling, or high pressure, less dense, burnable compressed natural gas. I’d imagine there might be a reason LNG would be favored. If not from safety stand point, then from an energy density stand point. Might be more expensive, but LNG takes up less room.
@@bigbuilder10 Low pressure, more dense liquid is indeed generally safer and better than HP compressed gas storage down to a some low temperature limit. But here, LNG is at -160degC at LP storage, which brings in several disadvantages, which would more than outweigh the disadvantages/risks with HP CNG storage at ambient temp.
Cryogenic temperatures must be maintained or the fuel tank will burst. So you have to add a cryo refrigeration plant to each truck. The cost and weight would be untenable.
It's a shame that LNG for vehicles was killed by the EV Hype. LNG exhaust fumes are as clean as it can get when burning something. At least for long range traffic LNG would be perfect and later if we have enough green Hydrogen we still could mix the LNG with Hydrogen and therefore make it even CO2 leaner.
EV is just the lithium mining consortiums paying their way into big profits with governments by making it seem like EV is "eco friendly". When in reality, it's not.
Ronnie G . Sir I believe that the fork lifts you talk about were powered with LPG ! I worked at Toyota for 20 yrs , the forklifts all had 6 cyl Land Cruiser engines & the tow motors all had Toyota Corolla motors , all converted over to run on LPG . , and an added benefit to LPG is the engines last about twice as long , so car companies don’t like that idea !!!!!!
LNG is nothing until they find a way to store it safely . Any road accident would be potentially catastrophic . I have seen footage of an LNG tanker exploding on a roadway . It is not safe and should not be allowed on any roadway period .
An overabundance of natural gas caused oil prices here in the Permian basin to literally go in the negative as recently as last year (2020). Obscene amounts of NG is flared and more yet illegally vented to the atmosphere contributing to greenhouse gases.
I remember 30 years ago there were some buses modified for natural gas,but I know for sure they have also some oil injection system because it was to dry or something,in the end were scrapped.And no Hidrogen in is not a solution,when you need electricity to make it,better skip that and use electricity directly.
LNG 😂😂😂 When in 2030 ? We aspect magnetic field or something more advance in that time 👮♀️🎪 This LNG is like suggesting to move from riding a cow 🐄 to a horse 🐎 instead of a motorcycle 🏍 This is how smart people vanish with EU founds money 💵 💰
Diesel has lubricating properties for engine and pump components , how are they overcoming this , if it’s like LPG they add extra chemicals to the fuel line , What do these chemicals do and what are they ?????? I have 30 years experience in the fuel supply industry, and I can see issues with engine longevity and components braking down and premature wearing out of engines .
LNG nd CNG has been used a motor fuel for 40+ years Engine longevity is increased by 80% over gasoline and about 40% over diesel. NO extra chemicals are added and even for LPG nothing is added for use as a motor fuel it comes from the same place as all other LPG which has been around since the 1950s as a motor fuel. It is quite apparent you have no clue what you are talking about.
Having driven both diesel big rigs and LNG I can say I would never buy a LNG rig due to the enormous fuel burn and lack of power. Also the production of LNG is not good for the planet(fracking) to say the least.
LPG seems much more productive option. In Bulgaria maybe half of the automobiles are on LPG or methan (LNG) for decades. But there's an enormous loss of power with the LNG which with LPG can be compensated. The most practical decision is the mixed 1:2 - disel:LPG mixture. Though it requires additional lubrication for the engine. It gives the long output of the diesel and the full and fast combustion of the LPG
Hey man, I am a German currently living in Varna and I was just going to say so! LPG would have been so good, atleast as a transition until things become fully electric, or maybe hydrogen powered! It’s nice to see, how somewhat Bulgaria is a step ahead! Where about are you from?
Funding by government - private sector doesn't see profit. Ok to get something started. ( time limit) Import from far away without pipeline is nonsense.
The only problem is the storage of liquid natural gas in the car, that requires a cryogenic tank, while LPG only requires a traditional pressurized tank. The cryogenic tank obviously costs more, and is gonna continuously release small quantities of natural gas (that can be dangerous in closed garages).
I have thought storry about the liquefied nitrogen gas as a source of high pressure trust. But it is propan or butan gas as a usual gas for auto just differently named. 🤔
LNG can be methane, propane or butane but is usually methane. CNG will be methane . LPG is understood to be propane/butane or propane . But no reason for not including methane as LPG. It gets more confused with time.
@@V12BigBlock I don't think every vehicle can use that. I used to have a Toyota Prado and asked if I can converted that to LP gas professionally. Toyota service department says no. It will damage the valve seats, they said
@@rayleeaustralia i live in a country where they put these things on almost every car, i've seen from Land Rovers to Mercedes with LPG tanks in the trunks, it doesn't damage anything
@@rayleeaustralia there's plenty of aftermarket conversion companies here in Australia that will do it for you but sometimes the manufacturer will recommend against it. It's not that common anymore because the government no longer provides a tax incentive to offset the cost of it.
@@tomtom1541 it’s a shame that the Australian government is not pursuing this fuel for motor vehicles rather than selling cheap overseas. It’s a rather clean fuel compared to petrol and diesel. Australia have plenty of this and the prices at the pump are ridiculous
@@abhijeetchavan13 LNG has its applications, but don't expect it to be put into consumer passenger cars for the foreseeable future. The cryogenics required to keep it in liquid form would make it difficult to fit inside a small passenger vehicle and still make it safe.
The stuff costs several times more than Russian Gas. That might account for the dramatic difference between LNG and Russian Natural gas Market Shares? The ability of Investors to direct State Department actions may be what caused the US to donate $20 billion to promoting the Current Conflict, so sanctions could be enabled that would remove Russia from the European Union Markets? The question seems valid, due to the US enabling Investor Profits from the deaths of over a million Citizens of Iraq?
In Australia I started using LPG (not LNG) gas in my car in the 80s to save $ and the environment. The government at the time helped out with converting to use it in your car $. They said it would never cost over 18 cents per litre and petrol was 50 + cents Now 2021 it's costing me 95 cents + Petrol is $ 1.60 + I have to burn about 1/3 more LPG to get same km . I'm trying to have minimal impact on the environment by using this fuel and the government is ripping me off.. Our government is only interested in taking the people into poverty.. Shutting down industry and importing thousands every year with no work Only on government hand outs . Im 60 now and watched Australia go down the drain over the last 40 years big time....
I mean you could make trucks run on hydrogen and make them truly 0 emissions. There is plenty of examples. But hey oil companies needs to make billions dont they.
55.5 megajoules per kilogram of energy is released when natural gas is burned and about 46 megajoules of energy per kilogram is released when diesel fuel is burned.
@@Jemalacane0 incorrect. MJ for a gallon of diesel is 155 MJ. The same quantity of LNG is 86 MJ. It’s a well known fact diesel contains more energy density, don’t even know why you’d argue that. Convert it to what ever you want that fact remains the same.
@@youtubechampion9377 sure! Peanut oil was the original fuel. Edible oils have no sulphur. The modern fuels have additives regulated by the feds. Diesel engine will run fine on kerosene, with a slight loss of power. Jet A fuel works good too, with the mandatory addition of 1 quart of 30 weight motor oil per 200 gallon for lubrication. This has been well documented over the years. This is a very versatile power source with great low end power.
This is ridiculous this fuel still releases massive amounts of of CO2. They talked about particulates, and that is another problem that these fossil fuel vehicles have, and it still has that problem as well. Investing money into building up new infrastructure to burn more fossil fuels is going to speed up global warming. As far as the lorries are concerned there are EV lorries that are about to be released by Tesla, BYD, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, Mitsubishi, DAF, MAN, Scania, and many more. When there is such a big movement towards electric lorries, it makes no sense to build new fossil fuel technology. As for the ships, then hydrogen is the answer, there are already some ships mostly car ferries, but these have a short range. If a ship is going to travel up and down the Rhein, then hydrogen is by far the best option.
No thanks il keep using diesel....I find petrol and gas rather unsettling...as it dont take much for it to explode....diesel on the other hand is actually quite hard to set on fire.
You're so right Tony, who cares that running on NG produces ~50%less CO2 and 95% less fine particulates when compared to diesel. I guess you'd prefer running your vehicle on coal.
Eh, your maintenance department sucks then at maintaining the spark ignition systems, doing valve adjustments, and changing pressure regulation parts when they fail. Because that's the majority of what entails maintaining CNG engines so they'll run right and have power.
Yeah so much better than diesel. As I sit waiting for hours waiting for it to pump. LNG is garbage. Come up with and idea and don't see the major problems down the road.
Hi, it's just because of energy density. 1L of lng has like 30 times more energy in it than 1L of CNG. It means roughly that to achieve the same distance on 1 tank, a CNG vehicle has to have a 30 times bigger tank than the same vehicle propelled with lng. Hope i was clear, have a good day!
@@Giovanni-yy8gc Yeah and CNG vehicles don't have a lot of power. The one major advantage CNG has is that you don't need specialized safety equipment for refueling.
@@carl8790 another problem with CNG, it creates crank case water vapor, so you have to change the oil more often than other diesel or diesel like ignition sources. CNG is fuel quenched, not air as well. So you're taking a diesel engine and retrofitting it to run as a spark ignition gasoline engine with CNG, so it's way less efficient than standard diesel or bio diesel, which are compression ignited.
Nice report but is't coincidence that in DW 3 reports on the same day trying to say that relation with Qatar is important. the 2 million dollars PR campaign Qataris launched recently had a great effect.
Lol... this aged well... LNG... just got 1000% more expensive... when we are going to learn... big energy boys never will let go theirs golden goose... Natural gas is a fossil fuel depends on other country and politics... and now Aug 2021 just got 1000% more expensive... now... that's nice right...
True, but if you know basic chemistry, you should know that petrol burns cleaner than diesel and natural gas burns cleaner than petrol. Though, I prefer LPG over natural gas
@@terretulsiak True, the pollution during production is equal to petrol or diesel...the only redeeming feature is that it's the cleanest burning fossil fuel
@@kiyoponnn I'm not AGAINST gas, but until we start utilizing the sustainable ways to power as well, we should either reduce our consumption, or acknowledge the end effect.
Ahh. Yes. The old finger test. The science is settled then. 😂😂😂
HAHAHAHA PROOF !!!!!!! LMFAO
Natural gas does not have carbon to carbon bonds. So, soot will be less from it. Most of the energy from burning natural gas comes from hydrogen not carbon. Natural gas literally has four times the number of hydrogen atoms to carbon atoms.
@@Jemalacane0 hydrogen is still an indirect greenhouse gas, and actually has a far worse impact on climate change, as it perturbs the atmospheric distributions of methane and ozone, and therefore has a Global Warming Potential of 5.8 time that of Co2.
Goal post moving is wonderful.
That is sound science. I’m sold
Far to difficult to handle. LPG is are far better option as it doesn't need to be frozen only pressurised
LPG Is bi-product of oil refinment... Its like 1% of the refinned oil other 99% Is diesel, gasoline, etc... Its destined to be just a cheap alternative for few people in cars and for camping...
LNG tells us nothing. CNG however tells us it's compressed natural gas usually methane. If it doesn't liquify at the pressure stored it's called CNG. Our automotive LPG is understood to be 50/50 butane/propane requiring hardly more than two atmosphere pressure to liquify . Pure propane LPG for domestic use requires maybe three or four atmosphere to liquify . Pure methane requires a high pressure to liquify and tanks weigh twice as much as propane or butane/propane tanks . Butane of course is in plastic cigarette lighters and needs less than an atmosphere pressure to liquify .
It's not a good move these days to obsess over particulate emissions . We need more particulate emissions around 3 nm size to cool the planet. We got serious fires now because of covid virus grounding passenger jets from skies among other pullbacks. Our atmosphere is too clean and planet has now warmed up a little extra in last 18 months . At 420 ppm of co2 a sustained clean atmosphere will be catastrophic unless we get down to 350 and lower but that'll take a hundred years to get to 350 .
@@TheJirkal Not in Australia it isn't, we have LPG available at almost every gas station. My car runs on dedicated LPG and cost much less to fill the tank.
Or Just use CNG that only has to be compressed.
as far as I know lpg has more pollution than lng, and its more dangerous to the enviroment once its spilled it will spill on the ground meanwhile lng is just evaporates
.....How old is the diesel truck they wiped their finger on, on the exhaust? DPF diesels don't do that unless there's a problem with the DPF structurally..... This smells like a curated piece of news.
Remember volkswagen. This is same now.
@@abdelmouinboukhalfa4684 - I was wondering that to! Has the diesel been ran for tens, hundreds or thousands of miles and the LNG may have only ran a few miles or tens of miles! If this was a court case, any attorney would contest this as evidence!
Dpf is the stupidest thing to come out since glass cell phones....
also shorter the carbon chains lesser is the energy of that fuel.
Ships on the Baltic have also started to use LNG instead of diesel. Good development.
Until Russia starts using fuel supply as a geopolitical tool...
You think it's a good move . I don't think it's good. The supplies are precious and great for domestic and automotive and industry . Ships have evolved to use unprocessed bunker oil as fuel and it's a very green process .Also we need more particulate emissions from aircraft and diesel and industry to cool the planet .
I have a 1963 Mercedes Unimog converted to LPG since 2008. Only maintenance on the system was a check on the tank whicjmh is 150 litres usable. This is a six cylinder petrol engine and I have electronic ignition and the multiple electrode spark plugs. There is never any smoke from the engine. To start I switch the gas on and off a few times ans hit the button as there is no real choke.
Imagine a ruptured tank....if the crash didn't kill you the LNG explosion will.
LNG is actually quite difficult to ignite and when it does, it's more of a slow burn.
You could not be more wrong. Lng is under high pressure and the gas cloud explodes the same as if you open the valve at home and lit a match. It's still ng
bryan nonya what about when batteries get squashed?
They've tried to make them explode with no success. Myth busters maybe one example . Tanks have been thrown into fires , peppered with bullets .
We had CNG in New Zealand , busses ran on it and a lot of private cars, it slowly disappeared and I don’t think you can get it anymore.
Good, you overcome the carbon lock-in.
I would say the main issue is energy density. It is too low for LNG when compared to diesel. It is also too volatile and can not be stored nearly as easily as diesel. Certainly there are good use cases but I am pretty sure this trend will be short lived
Cool indeed. But a little late, we are just putting lipstick on a pig at this point.
The video is from 4 years ago...
@@39Miku Even 4 years ago it was late, we have known about climate change since the 80s and just have 10 years left to fix it.
@@deathgun3110 Nope. The effects of man on climate are exaggerated
Very negative. Its easy to put a spin on anything, just look at Musk's population videos. The only significant threat to life due to climate change that I'm aware of is the potential for methane to escape due to melting permafrost. It would make a lot of sense to burn that methane and create incentive to contain it rather than let it escape into the atmosphere. Rather than "terraforming" mars and putting all our effort into electric cars rather than improving the nuclear powerplants that could ultimately power them, technologies like these should receive much more attention. The distribution advantage of natural gas over gasoline is obvious to me. I'm waiting for a multi fuel vehicle with an independent electric powertrain from the manufacturers, but instead we get the 30 mpg Polaris slingshot.
Lets just bring back horses as means of transportation🤣🤣.
They would have a hard time replacing ferries or planes
???? Soviet scientst made a rocket powered by horse
LNG vehicle exhaust doesn't immediately close up the throat when breathing it in.
It's way higher in price. They can't get companies to use it without a 50% subsidy.
Ships normally use low quality diesel or marine fuel.
Often called bunker fuel.
@@PistonAvatarGuy correct 😊
Even unprocessed oil straight from oilwells.
As soon as my energy source needs to be contained in pressurized; I’m out.
That's silly.
@@muresandani
Really? Would you rather be driving around with a tank of gas, a battery, or a high-pressurized cylinder Of explosive gas?
That's b.s. they used a diesel truck about 15 to 20 years old . def and regin don't have any soot like when he wiped the exhaust Lng don't have the same hp as diesel the same engine
Thailand has had trucks running on gas for at least 10 years & more. This is nothing new. Truth is it’s cheap, but doesn’t have a good range due to small tanks.
I drive at FrieslandCampina with an lng volvo truck (range 800km with 190 kg lng perfect for 1 route we drive 10 hours in 12 hour shift) but the truth nobody talks about is what those ships that transfer those fuels from the persian gulf emit in the air.. Basicly in the big open ocean you don't have rules so they burn the cheapest dirtiest oil in their engines from those ships. Electric would be way better becouse it get rid of that co2 shipping cost..
I drive a Volvo FH LNG, it almost has the same power as the diesel counterpart, only downside is that you have to vent it like every 48 hours and the range is really low, one full tank (around 150 kg) only lasts like 350-400 km…
I would like to see a comparison of this ICE use of LNG to fuel cells. Theoretically ICE still wastes about 30% more of the chemical energy into heat. Fuel cells still need electric motors, but that opens up a path to increasing use of renewable sources when available.
Now its 40% efficient
@@ayushk4099 No it is not when talking about cars. Don't mix average and maximum efficiency.. Maximum efficiency may be 40%, but that doesn't matter because average efficiency during driving is only around 20%.
@@jasensalivec1475 20% for a modern car seems too low average thermal efficiency may be around 30% for regular engine and 35-40% for Hybrids
@@ayushk4099 Based on the fact that hybrids consume 25 % less fuel than regular diesel car, hybrids have around 25 % on average, during city driving it can be 35 %.
No matter what fuel you use, the common internal combustion engine has a lousy thermal efficiency of less than 15-20%, the rest is wasted as hot exhaust.
Apart from hydrogen.
It's about getting rid of emissions and reliance on oil, a transition phase if you will.
@@jooch_exe Even from an incremental improvement perspective, LNG for domestic civilian transport (cars, trucks, buses), LNG makes no sense - it is liquified only for long distance ship transport in very large low pressure storage tanks. Once within Germany, high pressure CNG makes more sense.
@@MariAmmaSar What’s safer, lower pressure, dense liquified natural gas that doesn’t burn without first boiling, or high pressure, less dense, burnable compressed natural gas. I’d imagine there might be a reason LNG would be favored. If not from safety stand point, then from an energy density stand point. Might be more expensive, but LNG takes up less room.
@@bigbuilder10 Low pressure, more dense liquid is indeed generally safer and better than HP compressed gas storage down to a some low temperature limit. But here, LNG is at -160degC at LP storage, which brings in several disadvantages, which would more than outweigh the disadvantages/risks with HP CNG storage at ambient temp.
Amazon is already running LNG heavy trucks. LNG will replace diesel.
HCNG will replace every other petrofuel with EV and hydrogen cell
@@hmmmm6685 i prefer LPG over CNG
Cryogenic temperatures must be maintained or the fuel tank will burst.
So you have to add a cryo refrigeration plant to each truck. The cost and weight would be untenable.
It's a shame that LNG for vehicles was killed by the EV Hype. LNG exhaust fumes are as clean as it can get when burning something. At least for long range traffic LNG would be perfect and later if we have enough green Hydrogen we still could mix the LNG with Hydrogen and therefore make it even CO2 leaner.
Indoor gas powered fork lift trucks with zero emissions have been used for years in warehouses. EV, like climate change as you say is a massive hype!
EV is just the lithium mining consortiums paying their way into big profits with governments by making it seem like EV is "eco friendly". When in reality, it's not.
@@JosephArata It was good to hear a UK MP speaking out against the EV hype the other day.
Ronnie G . Sir I believe that the fork lifts you talk about were powered with LPG ! I worked at Toyota for 20 yrs , the forklifts all had 6 cyl Land Cruiser engines & the tow motors all had Toyota Corolla motors , all converted over to run on LPG . , and an added benefit to LPG is the engines last about twice as long , so car companies don’t like that idea !!!!!!
But.. Maintenance... It is difficult of engine.. Complete sealed.. CNG engine incurred this problems...
LNG is nothing until they find a way to store it safely . Any road accident would be potentially catastrophic . I have seen footage of an LNG tanker exploding on a roadway . It is not safe and should not be allowed on any roadway period .
An overabundance of natural gas caused oil prices here in the Permian basin to literally go in the negative as recently as last year (2020). Obscene amounts of NG is flared and more yet illegally vented to the atmosphere contributing to greenhouse gases.
I remember 30 years ago there were some buses modified for natural gas,but I know for sure they have also some oil injection system because it was to dry or something,in the end were scrapped.And no Hidrogen in is not a solution,when you need electricity to make it,better skip that and use electricity directly.
Nice idea untill there's a crash.. then you get a bleve.. it will look like a small nuclear explosion
@Hello Richard how are you doing
LNG 😂😂😂
When in 2030 ?
We aspect magnetic field or something more advance in that time 👮♀️🎪
This LNG is like suggesting to move from riding a cow 🐄 to a horse 🐎 instead of a motorcycle 🏍
This is how smart people vanish with EU founds money 💵 💰
Diesel has lubricating properties for engine and pump components , how are they overcoming this , if it’s like LPG they add extra chemicals to the fuel line , What do these chemicals do and what are they ??????
I have 30 years experience in the fuel supply industry, and I can see issues with engine longevity and components braking down and premature wearing out of engines .
LNG nd CNG has been used a motor fuel for 40+ years Engine longevity is increased by 80% over gasoline and about 40% over diesel. NO extra chemicals are added and even for LPG nothing is added for use as a motor fuel it comes from the same place as all other LPG which has been around since the 1950s as a motor fuel. It is quite apparent you have no clue what you are talking about.
Watch this space , !!!
Rio de Janeiro has 60% of the fleet of passenger vehicles powered by LNG. 100% of taxis and Ubers.
R u sure taxis and uber r run on LNG? Or is it cng ?
@@casualbrainaic3360 Sorry, you're right, I didn't know the slight difference between the two, this really is CNG. (So called in Brazil GNV)
@@casualbrainaic3360 Thanks!
Clearly it's not or all trucks would be running on it 5 years latter... lng is a good fuel source but I'd rather a Caterpillar diesel engine
Having driven both diesel big rigs and LNG I can say I would never buy a LNG rig due to the enormous fuel burn and lack of power. Also the production of LNG is not good for the planet(fracking) to say the least.
The truck he put his finger in exshaust, is a euro 5. Its a Mersedes Actros 3. And why dont they pull this tanktrailer whit an LNG truck ?
Only if it's renewable methane vs fracked gas.
You better talk about co2 emissions from diesel compared to gasoline. Damn diesel dirtyness madness
LPG seems much more productive option.
In Bulgaria maybe half of the automobiles are on LPG or methan (LNG) for decades. But there's an enormous loss of power with the LNG which with LPG can be compensated.
The most practical decision is the mixed 1:2 - disel:LPG mixture.
Though it requires additional lubrication for the engine.
It gives the long output of the diesel and the full and fast combustion of the LPG
Hey man,
I am a German currently living in Varna and I was just going to say so!
LPG would have been so good, atleast as a transition until things become fully electric, or maybe hydrogen powered!
It’s nice to see, how somewhat Bulgaria is a step ahead!
Where about are you from?
Funding by government - private sector doesn't see profit. Ok to get something started. ( time limit)
Import from far away without pipeline is nonsense.
It’s called CNG in the U.S
It is possible to make an LNG gas car engine.
You mean is it
Elijah nil
The only problem is the storage of liquid natural gas in the car, that requires a cryogenic tank, while LPG only requires a traditional pressurized tank. The cryogenic tank obviously costs more, and is gonna continuously release small quantities of natural gas (that can be dangerous in closed garages).
I have thought storry about the liquefied nitrogen gas as a source of high pressure trust. But it is propan or butan gas as a usual gas for auto just differently named. 🤔
LNG can be methane, propane or butane but is usually methane. CNG will be methane . LPG is understood to be propane/butane or propane . But no reason for not including methane as LPG. It gets more confused with time.
Different is how strong I'll be pulling by that gas
Not how clean muffler pipe
And now my favorite ship also, MS Münsterland.
Here in Australia we had been using lp gas in cars for a long time. It’s also as clean. But the vehicle manufacturing had stop so this will also
Add-on LPG kits, don't you have them there? Even if you don't, you can buy them off amazon or something
@@V12BigBlock I don't think every vehicle can use that. I used to have a Toyota Prado and asked if I can converted that to LP gas professionally. Toyota service department says no. It will damage the valve seats, they said
@@rayleeaustralia i live in a country where they put these things on almost every car, i've seen from Land Rovers to Mercedes with LPG tanks in the trunks, it doesn't damage anything
@@rayleeaustralia there's plenty of aftermarket conversion companies here in Australia that will do it for you but sometimes the manufacturer will recommend against it. It's not that common anymore because the government no longer provides a tax incentive to offset the cost of it.
@@tomtom1541 it’s a shame that the Australian government is not pursuing this fuel for motor vehicles rather than selling cheap overseas. It’s a rather clean fuel compared to petrol and diesel. Australia have plenty of this and the prices at the pump are ridiculous
Why not use coconut and veg oil like mr diesel invented his engine to use instead of the waste product of making petrol
We do not have so much coconut oil that can power the whole world. The cost increases but importantly it may put vegetation into crisis.
Makes sense
A much better Idea than electric vehicles. No disposal problems, no charging delay, no massive infrastructure change.
They never say anything about cost . There in the US we use 70k trucks .
Does LNG really become good option for all diesel cars-trucks in future??Coz we have 1st LNG Station here in India 🇮🇳 inaugurated 2 days ago...
@@abhijeetchavan13 LNG has its applications, but don't expect it to be put into consumer passenger cars for the foreseeable future. The cryogenics required to keep it in liquid form would make it difficult to fit inside a small passenger vehicle and still make it safe.
The stuff costs several times more than Russian Gas.
That might account for the dramatic difference between LNG and Russian Natural gas Market Shares?
The ability of Investors to direct State Department actions may be what caused the US to donate $20 billion to promoting the Current Conflict, so sanctions could be enabled that would remove Russia from the European Union Markets?
The question seems valid, due to the US enabling Investor Profits from the deaths of over a million Citizens of Iraq?
on natural gaz engine last double than diesel
do not get why still not just cng, why still diesel
Gas trucks have'nt got the torque compared to diesel trucks. At the moment they are used on trucks that dont go to 44 tonnes.
Let's see the exhaust from an euro 6 truck !
In Australia I started using LPG (not LNG) gas in my car in the 80s to save $ and the environment.
The government at the time helped out with converting to use it in your car $.
They said it would never cost over 18 cents per litre and petrol was 50 + cents
Now 2021 it's costing me 95 cents +
Petrol is $ 1.60 +
I have to burn about 1/3 more LPG to get same km .
I'm trying to have minimal impact on the environment by using this fuel and the government is ripping me off..
Our government is only interested in taking the people into poverty..
Shutting down industry and importing thousands every year with no work
Only on government hand outs .
Im 60 now and watched Australia go down the drain over the last 40 years big time....
Same happening in the UK
The United States has lots of LNG due to fracking
The private fleet I drive for here in Toronto tried this and we just couldn't get it to work. Too many glitches.
I mean you could make trucks run on hydrogen and make them truly 0 emissions. There is plenty of examples. But hey oil companies needs to make billions dont they.
Didnt they have this in the 90s..cars with big gas bombs in the boot.
I hope this obsession with LNG is giving you hiccups now :)
Also called DESI CNG
147k BTU per gallon for diesel, 82k per gallon for LNG. No, natural gas is not better by a LONG shot.
55.5 megajoules per kilogram of energy is released when natural gas is burned and about 46 megajoules of energy per kilogram is released when diesel fuel is burned.
@@Jemalacane0 incorrect. MJ for a gallon of diesel is 155 MJ. The same quantity of LNG is 86 MJ. It’s a well known fact diesel contains more energy density, don’t even know why you’d argue that. Convert it to what ever you want that fact remains the same.
All new fuel systems started small. Long long ago, automobiles had to buy the gasoline in a can from the apothecary. LNG, there is always a start
It's been proven for a long time that it's not as efficient as diesel, stop trying to lie to people.
Nice, big bomba stuck to the side of the truck.
End of the day, LNG is more environmentaly damaging, take direct emissions and add them, one will get an emission figure higher than lignite.
Not true. It is significant progress from diesel and gasoline and it will be important as a backup to renewables for a long time.
What a load of rubbish this guy speaks, my word this article is full of opinions but no actual experience at all.
There will be a nice explosion when it’s ruptured in an accident.
How many explosions do you know about natural gas in vehicles?
@@aderitogomes1 Plenty, happens quite frequently in the US and the trucks aren't even involved in accidents!
@@macdonaldjohnstonfan Go cite three incidents then. And We know you won't, case that is a load of BS
People confuse explosions and serious firery leaks . They can be thrown into a fire and peppered with bullets and not explode .
Diesel will run on any organic oil edible or not.
@@youtubechampion9377 sure!
Peanut oil was the original fuel. Edible oils have no sulphur. The modern fuels have additives regulated by the feds.
Diesel engine will run fine on kerosene, with a slight loss of power. Jet A fuel works good too, with the mandatory addition of 1 quart of 30 weight motor oil per 200 gallon for lubrication.
This has been well documented over the years. This is a very versatile power source with great low end power.
If they refined all the other fuels they’ll better and more environmentally friendly and burn cleaner
This is ridiculous this fuel still releases massive amounts of of CO2. They talked about particulates, and that is another problem that these fossil fuel vehicles have, and it still has that problem as well.
Investing money into building up new infrastructure to burn more fossil fuels is going to speed up global warming.
As far as the lorries are concerned there are EV lorries that are about to be released by Tesla, BYD, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, Mitsubishi, DAF, MAN, Scania, and many more. When there is such a big movement towards electric lorries, it makes no sense to build new fossil fuel technology.
As for the ships, then hydrogen is the answer, there are already some ships mostly car ferries, but these have a short range. If a ship is going to travel up and down the Rhein, then hydrogen is by far the best option.
That is a lot of value! Thanks!
Do you know how to say "natural gas”?
No thanks il keep using diesel....I find petrol and gas rather unsettling...as it dont take much for it to explode....diesel on the other hand is actually quite hard to set on fire.
Very good job,that is what we need heroes like your amazing team.
Talk to real drivers and they will tell you how little power lng produces.👍
When something receives political support, you know it can't be good for people.
You're so right Tony, who cares that running on NG produces ~50%less CO2 and 95% less fine particulates when compared to diesel. I guess you'd prefer running your vehicle on coal.
Indian bus are using the same one and half decade ago
The future is hydrogen....not electric nor lng or lpg
Hydrogen fuel cells. I dont know anythin about them but i seen james may has a car with hydrogen
They could have wiped it previously.... And hey, why not drive around in a bomb!
You can do the same with methanol
Nice thanking you
Propane is so much better than lng
All I can tell you is that CNG powered buses are dogs to drive.
Eh, your maintenance department sucks then at maintaining the spark ignition systems, doing valve adjustments, and changing pressure regulation parts when they fail. Because that's the majority of what entails maintaining CNG engines so they'll run right and have power.
But if this big thing explodes it will be like India’s gas explosion
and we in the EU have soo "many" gas reserves😀🙃, & prices will not get cheaper, reopen the nuclear plants and stop wasting time and money Germany!
"stop wasting time and money Germany"
Germany just finished building its second pipeline connecting it to putins backyard.
"reopen the nuclear plants"
Nuclear is dead, unless someone invests in new technologies. Current nuclear power plants are simply too expensive.
@@bokoloaranyfa3824 😅🙃🙈
Can I use CNG instead of LNG ?
We need an update on this ? 🇺🇸
Yeah so much better than diesel. As I sit waiting for hours waiting for it to pump. LNG is garbage. Come up with and idea and don't see the major problems down the road.
in india we use CNG and LPG are they same as LNG??
No bro
few days ago first lng pump start in nagpur I think...or nasik
@@johny689 Nagpur
CNG/LNG mainly constitute methane gas while LPG gas propane.
@@johny689 nagpur
Ничего нового вы не придумали просто взяли чужие разработки из прошлого.....
В СССР это было разработано в 70-годах....
Do LNG cost effective?!
Why not using it as CNG?
Hi, it's just because of energy density.
1L of lng has like 30 times more energy in it than 1L of CNG. It means roughly that to achieve the same distance on 1 tank, a CNG vehicle has to have a 30 times bigger tank than the same vehicle propelled with lng.
Hope i was clear, have a good day!
@@Giovanni-yy8gc Yeah and CNG vehicles don't have a lot of power. The one major advantage CNG has is that you don't need specialized safety equipment for refueling.
@@carl8790 another problem with CNG, it creates crank case water vapor, so you have to change the oil more often than other diesel or diesel like ignition sources. CNG is fuel quenched, not air as well. So you're taking a diesel engine and retrofitting it to run as a spark ignition gasoline engine with CNG, so it's way less efficient than standard diesel or bio diesel, which are compression ignited.
Nice report but is't coincidence that in DW 3 reports on the same day trying to say that relation with Qatar is important. the 2 million dollars PR campaign Qataris launched recently had a great effect.
And no one mention gas from Russia and Iran
makes pure C02
Pure poison?
Co to meet LNG..cuz to coś mal wodór?
Great
Full form of lng???
what about biodiesel ??
Hah those all corn better used to feed people.
Lol... this aged well... LNG... just got 1000% more expensive... when we are going to learn... big energy boys never will let go theirs golden goose... Natural gas is a fossil fuel depends on other country and politics... and now Aug 2021 just got 1000% more expensive... now... that's nice right...
Not exactly scientific ...
True, but if you know basic chemistry, you should know that petrol burns cleaner than diesel and natural gas burns cleaner than petrol. Though, I prefer LPG over natural gas
@@kiyoponnn How do you think they extract it though? It's something that doesn't just show up at the place of ignition.
@@terretulsiak True, the pollution during production is equal to petrol or diesel...the only redeeming feature is that it's the cleanest burning fossil fuel
@@kiyoponnn I'm not AGAINST gas, but until we start utilizing the sustainable ways to power as well, we should either reduce our consumption, or acknowledge the end effect.
@@terretulsiak I completely agree
Interesting 🤓
LNG nice licvied
I have gas
What's a bs.