Are 3D printed wings for you?? // The Eclipson EBW-160 "Black Wing"
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Glad to see that, as 3D printing advances, more people are using it to create aircraft. I love the convergence of these two hobbies.
I bought and printed on as soon as I saw your teaser last week. This thing really is beautiful. Can’t wait to fly mine. Love this 3D printed content. Thanks!
Let us know how you like it! ;)
I've been looking at the Model V, and the EBW-160's for a while, now. Great designs!
Thanks for the vid, Matt! Time to pull the trigger!
Eclipson is underrated. I have their model T on floats, and it's great!
Awesome review, dude! Looks really fantastic! 😃
That engine mount config and aspect ratio immediately gave me a small Arsenal Bird vibe. Marvelous!
Huzzah! A man of quality!! Goodness I love Ace Combat!! I personally think the original X-02 from Ace Combat 04 would be awesome. Glad to see a fellow ace 🤙🏼
Awesome video on the Wing. Very informative. I want one !
love the plane and love the OG flite test music
it comes with detailed instructions and multiple cura profiles too!
Thanks for great review. I went and bought plans for the Model T after seeing this.
Well done Matt!!
As for suggestions, I wouldnt have mind if you made this episode longer. Show some more flying and let us hear Josh talk about it when he flies. Would also have liked to see what stuff that was put into it, and how. As for a new challenge, I would love to see you try to make a finless, foamboard flying wing.
More on 3D concept, design, construction. Just subbed because of this video
Why have i only just found this channel.......
New library of vids to watch.....🤟
I want to see you guys build a Spruce Goose replica, a HUGE one!
Looks like a proper Horton wing 😎🙃😁👍
I always like to see cartoon planes come to life as in Porco Rossa and Tail Spin. Dark wing was a personal fave. Please get back to that kind of content. If you have the skills to create them, they make excellent memories and make my kids laugh.
Awesome I love 3d printed planes, definitely something I would try if I had a 3d printer
@Dick Fageroni I actually bought one lol.
Have I built a 3d printed plane yet? Nope.
I think this is a helluva good idea. I'd like to see more 3d printing wrt RC and UAV projects.
This thing looks super interesting. You know I under utilize 3D printers at school, and haven’t yet flown a wing. This could be a cool first look!
Also Matt you did well on the review! If you wouldn’t mind me saying tho, more additional details would be nice on the flight characteristics of the model. Technical data understand is redundant since one could just look that up, and idk, maybe its just me, but I’d love highs or lows on turn nature, climb, speed! Just a few extra picks and licks to get a solid objective understanding on what this bird can do or offer.
Thanks for the video guys!
3d printed planes are still heavier then traditional balsa build up models; its just that complex shapes are easier and making identical ones is trivial.
And pla is also more brittle in cold weather and can not tolerate to much heat either; none of that affects balsa.
@@cmulder002
But balsa self destructs on landing and is very time consuming to build. Planes can be too light, I often add ballasts to my 3D printed sailplanes and they perform very similarly to my (expensive AF) composite sailplanes. (They have slightly less glide (but still plenty) and thermal a little slower, both of theses are because of surface finish, not weight.)
They are 1/12 the price and 95% of the performance, it's a no brainier. I use carbon string infused ABS, the parts are often too rigid even with no internal bracing and my profiles are only 2 walls thick usually. They are lighter than many balsa models, but if your perfect with balsa you could shave 2% max.
And the plane is built while I sleep 👌, more time flying, less time building, and isn't that kinda the point of the hobby, to fly.
@@index7787 good that my balsa planes are to old to remeber how to "Self destruct" on "landing" ;)
The chinese (B)arf models are not a good example of balsa construction.
And yes its easier to ballast a model like slope soaring pilots do depending on conditions but really difficult to reduce weight for calm conditions.
Time consuming depends, i have 24 hours in a day and choose to use some of that time on my hobby.
@@cmulder002 I have printed 4 of these exact planes.
The last two have been perfect and I can honestly say were lighter and stronger than I could have done out of Balsa.
I think the limit in printing these and the reason why it's 1.6 meters instead of 2 which would be more ideal is the size of most people's printers I think the next one I do is going to be 2 meter and will have a much better wing loading.
@@christopherleveck6835 are you using a carbon rod as spar?
This is a FANTASTIC model. Mine was made from PLA and I took it to FliteFest 2019 It was out in the sun all day and did fine. But... when I left it in the tent one of the ailerons warped. Also, I hand launch mine and it is pretty easy. It would be even easier with a buddy to help. With the new LW-PLA this would be even lighter and fly better.
Thanks Ricky, your testing was very useful for us ;)
Great video like always keep it up love this content
First visit, sub’d, great work! Thx.
For anybody wondering more about 3d printing the melting plastic type is called fdm there’s also resin printers such as sla and dlp they both use UV CURE resin and a light to cure it
great review
Cool!
I would love to see a foam board X-02 Wyvern (from Ace Combat 04) with the switchblade wings. I than amazing design and would be super cool to see it fly.
Also, how can I get more involved with Flite test? Anything more on top of being subscribed to the channel?
Great vid bro!
When will the speed build kits be sold with the new white maker foam?
Love how well it flies without vertical stabilizers. Is is a Prandtl wing like Al Bowers was working on this last decade at NASA?
Matt, Matt, Matt. More Matt please.
Fascinating, and a lovely design! You’re right, it tracks really well without vertical surfaces. Any idea how it manages that?
This is a simplified explanation but very easy to understand th-cam.com/video/aSD69jdi2CE/w-d-xo.html
Would have liked to hear a little more on specs. What is the print time? Build time? What filaments are recommended? Overall wingspan? Required filament amount?
Super!
Can you guys review the model y or t? Would love to see those.
Can u believe they responded and are shipping this wing to me thanks so mutch
Would love to see how well it handles a little scraggle. If flying an FPV wing proximity you aren't doing it "right" if you aren't "brushing" some trees :)
I got the plans for the FPV version. Not sure what material I will use. Thinking about Carbon-PETG or good old PLA.
How well did it fly with the broken flight surface? Looked like one of them was broken in half and held with the tape
That thing looks nice, but I can't shake the feeling that if I built one it'd shake itself to pieces before it got off the ground. Is it sturdy enough to withstand the vibrations of a two stroke?
3D Printing has come a long way in a short time!! I like this concept.
I just wish I had a 3D Printer, or any knowledge of how to use one... or a friend with one. 😞
This is one of many things I'd love to try.
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
I got in the hobby for less than 200$.
Bought a Creality Ender3 on Aliexpress when it was discounted for 158$. A few spools of filament (1kg for 10$) and you are good to go.
@@schwuzi If I had $200, or even $150.... or even $50, that definitely sounds like a plan.
I’ve been looking at this and their floatplane - perfect time to buy! was that PETG?
Yes
Done with you guys,
I love that plane you should put fpv and make an episode I love those episodes
Are there any efficiency Tests? Looks pretty aerodynamic.
Best lift to drag ratio is 18
Jack Northrop and the Horten Brothers are smiling from the hereafter at this video!
Their concept was always sound... They just had to wait until modern electronics and Avionics caught up. 😉
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks If they where not overrun then that would have been solved in less then a year. Nazi where great with technology,
awesome
Finally true Horten! LOVE IT!
But guys next time just show us "as on rails" camera feed :)
Copter mosquiting around is not enough.
@Dick Fageroni
Nope I meant Horten, northrop never used (non-linear) wing twist to achieve bell-shaped lift distribution.
www.amaflightschool.org/sites/default/files/219072.pdf
@Dick Fageroni
th-cam.com/video/mQ0GceDyTMw/w-d-xo.html
Buggers, finally someone took the horten design seriously :D
Somewhere Reimar and Walter are smiling, I think.
@@pheenix42 They ought to, with all the research that Bowers did lately, their dream is slowly coming true. I am actually designing my own rc glider inpired heavily from their work, as their designs were my idols of perfect planes as a kid, but Im doing it with better airfoil and the twist that the guys at Nasa calculated few years ago. Hortens were my kind of dreamers.
There was an episode on Mythbusters, where they took a Ford Taurus and put dimples (golf ball style) in the exterior panels and got improved gas mileage. If you can 3D print a planes panels, could you add golf ball style indents to the wing surfaces to improve air drag and possibly stability?
I am not the man to do this, but it sounds very doable and I am very curious if it would be a significant difference.
@@milesnoell wouldn't work on an airplane since we need the surface to generate lift..
@@peterzingler6221 what if you don't do it on the underside of the wing
Shouldn't you get more lift as there is a bigger pressure difference
apparently the shape of fish scrubs reduces drag; there have been experiments where a foil was made and it did reduce drag..
Will it work on model planes is more difficult to say because models fly a lot slower then full size and at much lower wing loading (landing speed and wing loading are related) and the "thickness" of the air is still the same for both big plane and small.
Making a 3d printed model plane with a surface that has either dimples or fish scrubs shapes is relative simple; its most the cad design to include it. Printing the result will be more time consuming and likely better done with a smaller extruder nozzle then the common .4mm diameter one but no different then any other print otherwise.
If you have the skills and time to do the design (or can bribe another one;) then go for it and see what happens just make sure you have a identical models with a smooth surface too so you have a reference to check performance changes against.
@@cmulder002 sadly I don't have the equipment or plane building knowledge to do so but I think maybe someone like Tom Stanton could work with it
That is sick. White flitetest needs to do now is make 3d printed speed build kits. Just imagine being able to make an rc jet or a b2 stealth bomber. And then, they should team up with ramy rc and make a carbon fiber rc plane
That is one sweet looking wing...If only I had a 3D printer :-( Only draw back I can see is having to use a bungee launch, or can you hand launch?
Nice! What 3D printer you recommend?
Even with cheap 3D printer like anet a8 or ender 3 you can print it with good quality
What size printer do u need for a project like this
Have mine fully printed and assembled. Where can I find the bungee cord system
With the see thrue plastic that airplane would be perfect to put some LED into it and do some night flying :)
Yes! This should look amazing.
Hey please on the main channel build some awesome airliners love the vid keep up the amazing work and as I speak I’m building an foam f-18 🛬🛩🛬✈️🛫
Hey can u guys pls do a vid of the eflite valiant
More of thos new products that are not just innovative but repeatable we all crash and we all need to repair unless there's no more parts then your SOL thanks HorizonHobby... just a personal call out on almost every old model I own from them...
🍻 cheers 🥃
I’ve been following Eclipson for awhile.
They have a free design on thingiverse you can try.
Thanks for the vid, but I agree maybe just a tad more info, got me pretty close to sealing the deal, but not quite there yet.
Have to say, I wish Eclipson would come up with a different hinge system, maybe CA hinges like 3dPrint lab.
So thanks for the interesting topic, just a little more info/length and it would have been spot on. (Off to buy some STLs, yea, the 5% sold it for me.) 😜
The Horton brothers would be proud
Do a part 2, where you actually try to print it, since you 3D print other things. Also, fly it FPV...
step one load gcode , step two load filament. step 3 press print... quite boring actually unless your the kind of person who enjoys watching paint dry
@@cmulder002 if your printer works well, yeah. I imagine this takes quite a few build plates to print on a prusa or ender 3 sized machine. I wonder if they offer different files for people to use with bigger printers. I've got a couple Delta printers that can do 370x450mm very fast with 0.8mm nozzles for strength.
@@elementdw the time laps show 4 wing sections and a center section in a single print session. Each wing half is 6 sections so that would make for 3 prints. assuming its a 24 hour "ish" print time each that would make for a 3/ 4 day print.
That is faster then it takes to get a order shipped to you and if you use the provided g-codes the preparation time for each print session would be a few min if that. the second one would be even faster if you keep the g-codes saved on your printer.
@@cmulder002 3 days is cool, but with 0.4 nozzle and same print settings as my other machines, my delta does a print in 9 hours that takes 27 on an ender 5 plus. With 0.8 nozzle I can probably print these in a day with added strength, but might weigh slightly more
@@cmulder002 Ive printed four of these now and only the last two have been perfect.
Anyone can print them but to print them well, as light and strong as possible on any printer takes some work.
Name it Icarus. I can totally see the filament getting soft up there in the direct sun packed with a bunch of hot electronics.
Airflow will keep the plastic cool enough not to get soft. Unless you have your motor/prop combination all wrong and cook the motor and esc.
Material is PETG, more heat resistant than PLA so no worries with the sun
@@MrJLouw Or you're like me and throw engines on everything. If I build one of these it's gonna be OS powered. Probably a 15LA, they're cheap and reliable. Might also modify the center section in CAD to make mounting the engine closer to CG easier(I had to add something like 300 grams to the nose of my STRIX Alatus to get it to balance on an Enya 09 ._. ))
@@TestECull make sure you check the cg with a full tank if the tank is behind the cg and empty if in front.
@@cmulder002 tank's right on CG to avoid that every issue.
could you fomofill the wings?
42 ounces equals 1.2kg in metric system. ;) a lot of viewers (including me) are probably not familiar with imperial system.
Hello! Still waiting your video about how to make a bungee launch :)
I love 3d printing, but onley flown quads. I think It onley is a bit to big for me. Love it.
Would tpu be too heavy?
How does it land safely?
I am not into 3d printing, what would be the cost of the material used to print a wing like this?
this thing should be no more than 400/500 grams, consider that a 1Kg spool PLA, ABS or PETG costs about 20 to 30 US$/€ depending on the quality... Although i've no idea if they used an exotic material but, considering they are selling the models themself, I think it is one of the mentioned above. In a nutshell if you already have a decent 3d printer it is actually a very cheap frame that can be repaired section by section indefinetely
What is the maximum speed ?
nicee
How much plastic filament does it use to print it out (for cost comparison)
480 gr
Just an FYI - You don't need a bungee to launch this aircraft. It is VERY easy to launch it by hand. Just hold it by the keel, throw it with a +20% pitch angle and apply full throttle. Here's how I do it: th-cam.com/video/CnVPvvSZEak/w-d-xo.html
What filament is this? Does it print white and then become clear?
PETG
Ist das etwa eine Horten 3?
Wingspan in metric and weight in imperial? Lol
So it doesn't sound so heavy.. It's 1.6kg or so
lmao
42 Ounces is around 1191 Grams (~1.2kg)
It says here...
powernumpty
I know how to convert it, it’s just funny how he delivered the specs, at least it WAS funny.....
@@mikestevens3570 Yeah sorry I hate those literal replies and then did one, I thought someone might be interested without having to search.
Give someone an inch and they take 1609.344m eh.
How do you do the footage on the printer without the hotend in shot? Amazing......
Octoprint can do it, you have to set it to take a photo at the end of each layer. but yeah, it's crazy cool
or a swtch at the end of the bed that clicks the camera every pass,,
Huh. Could have sworn y’all where going to do a Gee Bee. Where it at?
I'm very disappointed you didn't use the included flight controller.
Spitfire redesign?
(I'm not discrediting David's Spitfire. I recently bought one myself)
That DOES need the "frame and skin" redesign like the Corsair and P-47!!
Good news for you and @PoorManRC, John Overstreet has a great looking Spitfire in his lineup that should be coming out soon. Check out his Instgram page for updates on all of his projects, most of which will be available through FT. He's @trieditathomeofficial
Hallo können sie bitte die Daten schicken für den 3D Printer Druck möchte den gerne haben
I want to see a 3D printed BSLD wing. Someone out there, make it so!
Will you please try the GASB series of printied aircraft. The GASB-One is a flying wing the is 9pc. And does not require glue. Check it out and please review. It is my go to printed wing. Find them on thingiverse by Carletto73
Is it sturdy enough to survive the vibrations of an OS 15LA on the back? Or an OS 10FSR? Or maybe even an FS-26/Saito FA-30?
How much does it cost in filament to print this out?
Or to have printed
whats an ounce?
How many times can you say “you guys”?
Cries in Crippling Canadian drone laws.
how many kilograms of filament it takes? im so interest in this
more like how many grams.... that thing is not more then 400/500g
@@MasterControl90original thanks!
Great to see Jesse P on FT again! If he can make it there from CO maybe I can too one day! :)
How durable are these things? That would be my only concern
that's the point! it doesn't matter because you will print the broken section over and over and over
@@MasterControl90original it does matter...if the print cant take a moderately rough landing you will spend more time rebuilding than flying. The ability to print parts is a huge plus, but everyone would rather be flying
@@woogieman02 well surely it is faster to repair and glue together a foam plane, 3d printed ones should instead be considered more like those "boutique" rc models so not something for a beginner. Anyway it's not like it is gonna break at the first vaguely not so perfect landing but surely it is gonna shatter if it goes straight down
@@MasterControl90original agreed. I am very intrigued by these planes and this process. The possibility for creative planes is ensless
How big of a printer is needed to print these parts?
Boomfiziks just get a cr-10
It is printed in section that you glue togther after printing
When’s the next drive on episode?????
we need a enemy plane like the me-109 or the mitsubishi a6m japan zero please we need it
I want a flite test plane please
Bungee mechanism looks like arresting gear
whay no fpv footage????
stick a split in it!!!!!! ....as i did at mine:
th-cam.com/video/hYDgk4img98/w-d-xo.html
I'm betting that it wouldn't be able to handle how hot a video TX gets. Prints melt if they get hot and that looks to be only a single perimeter or maybe two. Video transmitters get super hot.
@@nemocheerio They say it is designed for FPV. Plastics like ABS and polypropylene can handle up to 100 celsius, and polycarbonate can handle up to 120, I don't know if a VTX gets that hot. I would like to see how stable this wing is without the vertical fins.
If FliteTest needs a FPV wing pilot for the team I am available, flight curriculum at my YT channel!!!
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Hey can you guys,build a flying wing that is also a hydrogen fill blimp. A hydrogen filled blimp wing would be so light .
More 3d printed air craft
Hi, I also built this beautiful wing, I made the first flight, with good final results, but kindly can you tell me divr You put the center of gravity ?, and co pleta, and you wrong the one printed on the model !!, I have built the UAV version which I only use in RC. Thanks in advance. I would like to do the next flight with the right center of gravity.
What power combo did you use ?
@@tubamanandy2 EBW-160