How to solve (x+2)^4=x^4+2^4 besides x=0

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  • The equation (x+2)^4=x^4+2^4 is a seemingly false identity but it's actually a nice algebraic equation. It has not just x=0 as a solution but two more complex solutions!
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  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More practice with expanding binomials: th-cam.com/video/WzF_UWQ-bEE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PaIZ4vaYtEtFS0ph

    • @kennethgee2004
      @kennethgee2004 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      binomial expansion theorem i thought, but that is a small distinction.

  • @ASChambers
    @ASChambers หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Wow! I love the use of Pascal’s triangle there. It made everything else so much easier.

  • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
    @A_Stereotypical_Heretic หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I was with you until everything you said after x=0

    • @maxhagenauer24
      @maxhagenauer24 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He just set the other factor equal to 0 which is a quadratic that can't be factored so he used the quadratic formula.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So you understood the first 28 seconds. You weren't with him for very long.

    • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
      @A_Stereotypical_Heretic หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chitlitlah no, admittedly not.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@A_Stereotypical_Heretic No sweat. Watch enough of these videos and you'll become a math guru.

  • @Wildcard71
    @Wildcard71 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    (commented before watching)
    When you see that x=0 is a solution, there will remain a quadratic equasion you can solve.

  • @jesusthroughmary
    @jesusthroughmary หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:15 I always put the 0th powers down, it cements the pattern. I mean, you don't need to put the exponents of 1 down either but you did, the same logic applies.

  • @trollfacereaction-f3x
    @trollfacereaction-f3x หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Binomial Theorem states:
    \[
    (a + b)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k} a^{n-k} b^k
    \]

  • @kingofnumbers7660
    @kingofnumbers7660 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the same thing, just multiplied by 2 because I didn’t divide 2 on both sides.

  • @richardgratton7557
    @richardgratton7557 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was expecting 4 solutions because of the 4th power in the initial equation….🤔

    • @msolec2000
      @msolec2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's a good intuition. This time the fourth power is cancelled away. Like, we know x²=x+1 has two solutions, if I add x²² to both sides, I'm not making twenty solutions to magically appear. :)

    • @sreenidhiyamana231
      @sreenidhiyamana231 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I guess zero is a repeated root (solution) so all of the solutions are 0,0 and the two non real solutions

    • @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172
      @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's actually just a cubic equation because there is x^4 exactly once on both sides

    • @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172
      @antoniusnies-komponistpian2172 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sreenidhiyamana231That would be the case if the polynomial is divisible by x^2, which is not the case

    • @sreenidhiyamana231
      @sreenidhiyamana231 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@antoniusnies-komponistpian2172 that's quite a good answer

  • @GCI--1234
    @GCI--1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question if (a+b)^2 can be expanded so lets say a+b = x so what will be x^2( i have a formula for expanding x^2 note: its not x*x) if u can respond i ll be happy

  • @davidceronquintero2858
    @davidceronquintero2858 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's true in a field of characteristic 2

    • @DanDart
      @DanDart หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Average numberphile viewer be like:

  • @manueldl9753
    @manueldl9753 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I missing something? (X + Y)^2 = X^2 + Y^2 + 2XY
    It can never be true?
    Sorry in advance if I asked a dumb question

    • @TheSpoonThatDied
      @TheSpoonThatDied หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is always true. Which is why it's called an "identity" instead of just an "equation". An identity is something akin to a law, in that it is universally true for all values of the variable(s).
      Here, (x+2)⁴ = x⁴+2⁴ is an equation. It is NOT true for all values of x. We have to solve the equation to get the values of x for which this expression is true. One of such values, as explained at the start of the video, is zero.
      Hope that helped :)

  • @HoSza1
    @HoSza1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    complex solutions do matter

  • @lawrencelawsen6824
    @lawrencelawsen6824 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this guy

  • @dazoerb
    @dazoerb หลายเดือนก่อน

    *should* separate the rational to 2 terms to get into the a+bi form and have I after the radical of course to match the Complex number form.

  • @Prypak
    @Prypak หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanna share this technic I love for the last equation ;
    x²+3x+4 = 0 = (x+1.5)²+1.75 (1.75=7/4) (x+1.5)²-(√(7/4))² = 0 so the solutions are 1.5±i√7/2

    • @Andre-he5ly
      @Andre-he5ly หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just for generalization, x²+bx+c = 0 => (x+b/2)²+(c-(b/2)²) = 0 => (x+b/2)²=((b/2)²-c) = > x+b/2=±sqrt((b/2)²-c) => x = -b/2 ± sqrt((b/2)²-c) => x = -b/2 ± sqrt(b²/4 - c) = -b/2 ± sqrt((b²-4c)/4) = (-b±sqrt(b²-4c))/2. You just proved quadratic formula :D
      Obs: in this case i assume a equation linearly simplified to 1x².

    • @Prypak
      @Prypak หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andre-he5ly you're right

  • @josemarino8787
    @josemarino8787 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that on the ring R=Z/4Z the equality holds for every x in R...

  • @MathProdigy-qg5gx
    @MathProdigy-qg5gx หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was actually EXACTLY the method I used to solve this.

  • @ivensgutierrezquispe4986
    @ivensgutierrezquispe4986 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lo hubieras resuelto más fácil con diferencia de cuadrados

  • @shinjonmal8936
    @shinjonmal8936 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bprp, there's another possible solution which I guess is not in our level, as degree = 4

  • @PrincessHonk
    @PrincessHonk หลายเดือนก่อน

    Binomial theorem makes things nice

  • @DjVortex-w
    @DjVortex-w หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems that the answer to any "does this have any solutions?" is always "yes, complex solutions".

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not always the case.
      x+1 = x does not have any solution, even in the complex world.

  • @raytayt_28
    @raytayt_28 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice. Cool

  • @MathS-u9o
    @MathS-u9o หลายเดือนก่อน

    i ❤ Mathematics

  • @yaseenelhosseiny
    @yaseenelhosseiny หลายเดือนก่อน

    The X values are: 0, -1.5+((sqrt(7)i)/2), and -1.5-(sqrt(7)i/2)

    • @massivecowbreakout7555
      @massivecowbreakout7555 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't /2/2=/4

    • @yaseenelhosseiny
      @yaseenelhosseiny หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@massivecowbreakout7555my bad

    • @whoff59
      @whoff59 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not exactly correct.See video.

    • @yaseenelhosseiny
      @yaseenelhosseiny หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whoff59 how?

    • @hmmm6200
      @hmmm6200 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@yaseenelhosseiny you forgot the imaginary unit
      its i*sqrt(7) not sqrt(7), so -1,5 + i * sqrt(7)/2 and -1,5 - i * sqrt(7)/2
      the extra pair of parentheses around the sqrt is unnecessary

  • @trollfacereaction-f3x
    @trollfacereaction-f3x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😺🫵

  • @tejpalsingh366
    @tejpalsingh366 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    O is only real soln.... Why to make such drama

    • @johnmarcusengreso8273
      @johnmarcusengreso8273 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Cause math fun

    • @Steve_Stowers
      @Steve_Stowers หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I've been trying to decide how to respond to this, and I can think of several possibilities:
      1. You have a very different idea of "drama" than I do if you think that calmly working through the solution to a math problem is "drama."
      2. If you didn't care, why did you choose to watch the video?
      3. How do you know that 0 is the only real solution without working through the problem?
      4. "Real" (and "imaginary") are technical terms in math. Don't assume that non-real numbers don't matter or aren't important. (Whether they matter or not in a particular prpblem can depend on the context.)
      5. All the math in this video is pretty standard stuff that any algebra student at a sufficiently high level should be able to handle.

    • @albericponcedeleon2696
      @albericponcedeleon2696 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Steve_Stowersyou likely just replied to a tongue-in-cheek comment with an itemized list. Lmao. I'm pretty sure they meant drama as in all the extra work of finding complex solutions, not emotional conflict. Per your fifth point, unless the unit is about complex numbers specifically, most of the time teachers will only care that students find the real solutions.

    • @abhirupkundu2778
      @abhirupkundu2778 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@albericponcedeleon2696 No they won't. I don't know where you are from, but teachers always ask for complex solutions after they have taught you the complex numbers chapter. And Steve_Stowers every point is correct and reasonable unlike you.

    • @msolec2000
      @msolec2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@albericponcedeleon2696 even if that's the case, you still need to do the rest to make sure you're not missing any real solutions