Was my 1025HP Charger Hellcat Better Than My Demon 170?
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- I compare my Demon 170 to my 2016 charger hellcat and give you my thoughts on which car is faster and which is the better car to own. My record-breaking hellcat packed 1025hp with some relatively light mods, while the Demon 170 throws down 1025hp directly from the factory, making it the quickest production car in the world on a prepped surface. Which car would you rather own?
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I like the 2018 demon over the 170...especially esthetic wise I'm not a fan of that half wide body look...I understand that they did that for aerodynamic reasons though.
Yeah i always take the 2018 one over the 170
Weight. Not aero
@Welcometofacsistube yes I stand corrected
2018 Demon all day long
They did it for weight reasons dummy not aero 😂😂😂😂
Hellcat are pretty crazy. I can attest to the versatility. Mine makes 941whp and has 50k miles and been modded since 10k miles. 100's of WOT hits and still going strong. And if something in the bottom end does pop, the short blocks are cheap-ish these days.
Awesome. It's literally always been the best design for many decades.
It was so good Chrysler went to jet engine design because they knew they were maxed out in piston technology.
Looking forward to the turbo inline 6 now though ❤️🔥🤣
Mine put down 921whp on a mustang dyno and I just turned over 63k miles on my hellcat. I’m hoping to get another solid year out of it.
Good times back when Racer X lived at the track lol
I started my whole dodge challenger Journey by watching your channel
Me too!!
Your old Charger was hard to beat! An AMAZING beast! While the Demon 170 is technically better, there was a certain charm with XCESIV. I'm excited to see what you can do with your Demon 170! Great video, Racer X! By the way, that portable compressor looks awesome!
Hi Racer X I've been listening to you from Italy for years and how you are you do accurate and in-depth analysis explaining the slightest differences! Congratulations.
Thanks to your descriptions and advice I bought a 392 wide body two years ago and now I'm waiting for my Helcat❤️ Thank you for all the very useful information you give.
With this latest video of yours I realized further that my new Helcat will be an amazing machine. GRAZZZIEEEEE 🔝🔝
Instead of a cat or 170, going in between to build on my redeye. Best of both worlds imo for a street heavy car
That ‘16 Hellcat looks sickkkkkk!
One thing I noticed Mr X.. You look calm and collected running the cat. Look like a madman in the 170. Think that says it all as far as the comparison of the two. 😄 🤣
For me i would go with the Hellcat and mod it. I prefer consistency and reliability over ridiculous power
Loved the old ‘cat, matter of fact, I became a subscriber because of it
the montage of your hellcat was cool to watch, did you see the wheels Speedys garage put on his , it turned out really nice and looked like it came stock with them
You are very blessed RacerX to be able to work very hard and be able to afford both beautiful vehicles, plus many more.
Thank you so much for being an inspiration to us all out here who follow you, and keeping things real. Thank you sir! Love your videos and learn so much.Keep up the great content! 👍
Happy 4th of July to you & your loved ones, RacerX 🇺🇸🗽
Ps- i still like the Demon170 the best. Not just for its super collectability but also there is soo much untapped potential in the D170 that is undiscovered yet, more so than any of the other factory vehicles out there past or present. Time will tell.
Thanks buddy.. much appreciated! Happy 4th
Great video RacerX! Quick question, how many miles did your Hellcat have when you sold it?
Also, I got my hat and love it!!
Glad you got it 👍.. the hellcat hat 52k miles on it
YOUR CHARGER WAS A BEAST,it was my favorite Hellcat on TH-cam.
Hello RacerX. I would keep the 170 stock other than putting on wheelie bars. Lol !!
Great video Buddy! 😁👍
Thank you Racer X for my signed cap, just got it in today’s mail ❤🙏🏻
😅Still waiting ✌️
I also became a subscriber when you had the Charger Hellcat, not a fan of the Mustang unless it was a Dark Horse or the GTD. The 170 is, like you stated, really for the track and not always great on the road, so I go with the Hellcat or even a Super Stock. Happy 4th RacerX!
I think I would have rather had your old Hellcat.
Likewise
I just like the Chargers so much better than Challengers tbh
"My Hellcat was fast and consistent. Extremelyreliable" Well, there is your answer.
Sounds like the 2016 was better.
Sell it while it's still worth something.
The BGE block is near maxed out on the c170.
Ok I’m a straight guy through and through, but those eyes in that video, I’d listen to you talk about churning butter. Those has to be contacts my man! Steer a brother straight to where you got them. Damn! Oh and that charger all day over there 170. It was beautiful!
@8:53_ I think you meant to say _9.46_ (not 10.46)
Between the two choices given Id rather have a Demon 170 . Personally I want a Challenger SRT Super Stock
BravoXThe Demon170s Top speed limit's a deal breaker for me. Also the price & the seemingly lack of R&D by DODGE before selling them to customers with high expectations✌️👽🌾
Folks, if you missed it, check out Racer X vs Donkmaster. The last race with Xcesiv! That was 3 years ago.... Where has all the time gone? th-cam.com/video/BhBztqTJI-4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4g01kriPj1LfMTjJ
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Great video! Demon 170 forsure! There are way more hellcats out in the wild. The demon 170 is so rare and so few compared to a hellcat.
Nothing wrong with a hellcat. The demon 170 is the best to me. You sir are apart of Mopar history with that 170. There is probably a thousand hellcats to your one Demon 170. Its such a cool car.
Still wish the Charger came in a manual transmission from the factory. That would be the ultimate fun, practical daily driver while still being able to put my kid in the back seat.
I would never modify that 170 because Iike you said, the price of the engines should you need another one. I would just drive it. I probably wouldn’t even have put an exhaust on it knowing me. I don’t even race so who am I kidding. 😂
Yep I miss that car but wish you well with the 170 👍👍
Got my Drivers license on May 17th, 2024!
Should I got Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge??
🏆They're all fun🏆 just remember got to know your 🍀 limitations✌️
Not chevy unless a vette lol. I'd say ford even though I own a scatpack. I just can't recommend a dodge anymore with how the company is trending downwards.
@@BigJoe2.0 Mustang it is
One's a beauty, the others a Beast. Both awesome pieces of machinery!
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RacerX,
I’m sure the 170 turns more heads. ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE.
Your red and black 170 makes a great eye popping contrast.
July 8th is comin up. You think your gonna do that private event? Don’t rush the break in. Hopin you get under 9 times soon.
Prayin for John Force.🙏
I’ll take the Hellcat any day. I currently have a 2017 Charger RT and I’m looking to put a supercharger in it someday
Horrible idea. They don’t handle boost well and should probably sell it and get your self a motor that handles boost well like a coyote.
@@HoldPublicPigsResponsiblethat’s a outrageous lie.The 5.7 R/T handles boost way better than you think. You must be thinking about the 392 Hemi which yes putting boost on will blow the engine up unless you build the engine. I get you like mustangs and the coyote engine but not everyone wants one. I’ll take a R/T over a coyote anyday
@@azraelgoode7624what a lie… you provided nothing factual. Nobody boosts a RT… worse decision you can make. I get you love mopar and love a boat but if you want to go fast and have something reliable then a coyote or LS would be ideal. Let me know when you see a twin turbo RT gapping fools…
@@HoldPublicPigsResponsible MDG Collections, R/T life, Blackcarguru etc.. has vids on twin turbo R/Ts 😂 1300+ but it can’t take boost well mm ok 😂
@@HoldPublicPigsResponsible I don’t want a shitty mustang n the boat joke is old come up with some new
The 170 Imo looks good but is becoming a major flop for dodge. They're severely over priced due to markups, along with numerous engine failures, and now the prices a dropping drastically leaving bd taste in owner's mouths.
Yeah they beginning to be overrated a little bit
Has anyone aside from dodge actually ran a 1.66s 0-60 or the 9.4 quarter?
@@keepitsimple693 plenty have done 9.4 in the 170. It’s an 8.90 car..
@@sstevocamaro until someone posts a video running an 8.9 that's hypothetical
I’d take the Hellcat. Sure the Demon may have more potential, but that swings both ways, good and bad. You know what you’ve got with the Hellcat. Plus I’ve always liked the look and design of the new Chargers more than the Challengers.
Thank you Racer X much success to you sir. You are an awesome racer. I have a ? I have a 2019 Hellcat red eye Widebody I just recently bought rear OEM Detroit Tire 18 wheels. They have been balanced with my other purchase of MT ET Street R 305/45/18 tires. I obviously don’t have much experience as you. The tire shop were I got them mounted them on and put too much air. So I bought a ARB Deflator kit. What is the lowest PSI I can put on those tire because my car was shaking a lot at 80mph. the lower I go on those Tire the shaking goes away or feels less I mean. I’m just leaving those tires on only for the summer
The helcat Charger is a newer design ,but all new designs become dated. The 170:Challenger has a classic retro look of early seventies ,and will never be dated. Just a consistent classic. For the guy who commented he dose not like the half wide body style, flared rear fenders are a staple look of classic muscle cars. The helcat look like just another charger coming down the road.
RacerX’s red and black 170:Challenger might be visible from space. Definitely noticeable cruzin down the road from a distance. Noticeable coming down the opposite side of the highway.
The Demon 170 is in a class by itself. Even if it’s comparable it’s not. Nobody will like to hear this but like you said “it’s a sedan.” Muscle cars only came with 2 doors in my era! (I do love the Chargers though)
Sounds like I hear a bit of regret in your voice. That’s why I still have my 2015 Hellcat and 2019 Redeye. I wanted a D170 but I’m glad I didn’t get one.
I would take the Demon 170 for sticker over the Hellcat everyday anybody can get a Hellcat. You have to win the lottery to get a Demon or the 170. You got passed over on the 2018 it's the luck of the draw to get an allocation. Then being able to buy it for sticker is a minor miracle in itself for the Demon 170.
Dude you can’t compare a modified tuned car to the 170! Mod and tune the 170 by Pietz and then compare them. Apples to oranges bro! Silly to say the least.
I believe the engine is pretty much maxed out performance wise. To answer your question, I would love to have a 170, but if Direct Connection ever gets their 💩 together (unlikely) I could build something incredible for the price tag of a 170.
Closest thing would be just adding a Whipple 3.0 to a Hellcat.
I believe IHI makes a 3.5L blower.
For me, I would say the hellcat for everyday driving and the fact the 170 has a lower top SPEED!! But that's my opinion
Sounds like you miss your hellcat. I’m skeptical about the future of this car.
Ok last question, what was the fastest 1/4 mile time you ran in your old Charger Hellcat "Xcessive"... Plssssss tell me? 😅
AwesomeX《☆》👍🏾🥤🤳It's always exciting to see a Demon 170 video regardless of whether it's a Success or a Fail story. I just can't get enough of it. I'm still enjoying my 2014 Charger Pursuit. It's plenty fast for me. I just changed the Water pump a few weeks ago & the Driveshaft about 2 months ago but She's got 117k Police miles 8600 engine hours 4500 idle hours so I guess it's given Pretty good Service & still is a Hoot to drive✌🏼😎☯️
It's worth more money left stock. Keep for a collector and build something to race. Otherwise it won't be worth much in a couple of years. Dodge is done.
I’m a low drama type of guy. Give me the consistent hellcat
Hey RacerX, great content! I actually emailed you several weeks ago, but I haven't received a response yet :(
Why u guys keep talking about demons 170s when there stage 2 and 3 hellephants 1200hp or 1500hp lol
I miss the days when men built hot rods and didn’t just buy them.. lol!
Yes... next question.
I think he must have bumped his head when he decided to get rid of his Charger,seems like he was a lot happier.No one takes them to the track anymore to slow.I think you should have pullied up and e85'ed you OLE Hellcat and made a channel out of sniping 170's. That is what I try to do with my stock shortblock Redeye at 3940 lbs it has been best 9.17 @ 151,it went 9.91 @138 with locked pcm.
Great answer
You should have kept the charger hellcat it been cheaper to put more power in that car then buying a demon snd it's a gamble that the 2nd engine do not blow up
Love Racer x, but there isn't 1 dodge i'd currently buy even at 1/2 OFF MSRP, seriously.
So you wouldn't buy a last call hellcat for 45k? 😄 🤣
@rrpence21 No
Best I can do is 38500 😆
@@rrpence21 Plus 7k+ per year insurance plus 9 mpg + massive brake maintenance costs + 9 quarts of oil per change... the cost of owning a cat is in the little things not the sticker
Just curious why you watch this channel if you’re not interested in any dodge ? That’s like 90% of his content
@@ctreacts1537hellcat doesn’t take 9 quarts of oil it takes 7 at least the hellcat and hellcat red eye do. Not sure about the 170. Brakes ? I’ve owned 2 hellcats never had an issues with the brakes
You beat dunk master ??? Mann why did you give that car up
Paul, check out Speedy's Garage. He found the perfect tire setup for his Demon 170.
I actually saw that 👍
The price tag alone makes the hellcat better than the 170
Well ... your hellcat motor didn't grenade itself.
Speedys garage got a pretty nice street wheel package for his 170
I noticed dude isn't out beating the hell out of that 170 every weekend anymore.. He got smart and now he's leaving it parked in his garage like everyone else who bought them is doing..
Because of his new engine, I don't think he's brought it back to a drag strip yet, think it still might be in the break in period?
We will see if the 170 is consistent. Really liked the Hellcat!
Love both. I do want to see where I can get my HC Durango to. I'll never go track tires so I won't get that tire lift, but AWD can plant a lot more than I make. This thing was a beast up Pikes Peak carving corners at speeds it had no right to at 3 tons.
Your Charger sounds much more exciting to drive.
Have you heard as to what cause your engine to fail , did dodge ever get back with you telling you what was the culprit .
I just heard back today.. new video coming
I can't wait for the new video!! @RacerX9
Thanks for the reply racerX huge fan been watching your content for the last 5 years keep up the good work
I would have to say both are bad ass but I would have to go with the charger
Demon 170 and couldn’t even put leather seats.
Man running out of content…?
I couldn't agree more.... the content is getting stale, talks (rambles) about the same thing throughout the entire video lately. Now with him trying to sell more sh*t before watching the actual video... he's like a vacuum salesman now... and those fake blue contact lenses, lol, just stop RacerX..... makes you look fem, fake colored contacts and/or filters. Miss the older, less commercialized videos.... and you actually looked like a dude....
does driving my scatpack in track mode while breaking the car in hurt the engine?
No. Racerx has a video about this somewhere on his channel
The Hellcat was better in two ways. It was really consistent, and also in the aspect of cost. You can build an insane Hellcat for the cost of a 170. Especially if you find a used Hellcat. Also, it seems like the 170 is suffering massively shocks wise. I don't think better springs and adjustable Viking shocks will void the warranty?
Carlos Tavares needs to hit the road.. all he's worried about is making g profits. The bread and butter is coming from us guys who loves the mopar brands. Things should change soon if the new president changes the EV mandate. Then Stellantis can continue building the most loved hemis again!!
I prefer the Charger. It has nothing to do with the fact that I have a Charger Scatpack. Lol! However, I really do not care for the half widebody thing on the 170. To me it looks dumb. I honestly like the narrow bodies much better. Great videos!
Both are beautiful cars. A few years back, I'd have said i wanted the Demon and the Demon was the best that Dodge has ever done absent the Viper, but after watching these videos and sime videos from other content creators, I'd pass up a Demon for a Hellcat or Hellcat Redeye without even thinking about it.
Demon 170 once you figure the car out!!!
I can’t believe this is really a question 😂
Boosted 4WD F150s are making a lot of noise beating mopars entire line up from hellcats to trackhawks and demons.
I would say if you're all around using your car on the street more than the track, the Hellcat would come out on top. I would worry too much about hitting some wet pavement with that 170.
Can you gift your demon 170 to me. 🎉🎉🎉
I will always be a little biased because I actually saw your Hellcat Charger in person around We Are Mopar 3 time. When you had it at DFW Speed’s shop at the TH-camrs Meet and Greet to specific.
Yes sir 🤜🏼🔥
You don't modify a car thats 1 of 3000
Dodge should have done the D170 for 2024 model year. Instead of 3300 they should have made 1000 or less, should have handbuilt those engines, instead of rushing them all out in 23 when dodge knew there were still problems. Then they would have had something cool to promote 24-25 instead of the hornet 😄 🤣
Hellcat Charger without hesitation
I’ll take your Hellcat instead 👌🏼
Hey, i didn’t know you live in Texas, i would love to meet you one day, big fan
I used to.. I live in Tampa now
You spent less on the hell cat. You can go higher in mph in the hell cat. U could add weight to the vehicles to get better traction .To improve traction.
🏆Racer X🏆got my 🍀 hat very cool ✌️
Can’t wait to get my challenger rt
Thanks, X!! I'm picking one of those compressors up for sure!!
The best car you had was the scat pack
That car isn't gonna last if u were at the track already and it isn't broken in
The car was broken in .. trust me!
Definitely rather have a hellcat. Versatility beats a one trick pony 7 days a week and twice on Sunday lol
Your Charger was built by Dodge. Your Challenger was built by Peugeot/Fiat. I'm not sure you'll ever be able to have the same level of trust/confidence in your Challenger that you had in your Charger.
Not true at all. Both cars are built at the same assembly plant in Canada along with the 300. FCA was already in charge in 2014..
really enjoyed this video
Well arent you just a smart one. FCA no longer exists so yeah they did build the older hellcats. Now its Stellantis numb nut 😂😂 @richardcardwell6266
All Hemi engines were built in Mexico.
@@richardcardwell6266 My point was that there was still some "Dodge" in FCA. Every day that goes by Dodge becomes a more and more European-ran company . Which is exactly what Peugeot/Fiat is. And neither Peugeot nor Fiat have a great track record of success in the US.
Demon 170! Congratulations! You are now part of the MoPar research and development team! Your assignment: follow their instructions and go over the top! Team up with the oil geek. Analyze your oil every 500 miles. Look for wear. Have him do a show! When wear patterns look better, then increase your oil change intervals. Let the oil tell you when to change. Analyze after a trip to the track. (Does this car need a dry sump system?) Let us know! ENJOY the process! Good luck!
170 R&D👍👽🌾
Is it ok to love them both? 😂 Hey Racer X would you be interested in collaborating with some Racer X logo tumblers? My wife does this full time. Thanks for all the awesome videos!
Hello my friend.. I actually have a company that I’m looking at that was going to make those for me .. I’m always open to options 👍
@@RacerX9 Hey thanks for responding! Happy to send you a sample. We have been doing this for a long time and we can produce small or large quantities here in NC. Our UV DTF technology is unbeatable for tumblers. Plus we are Dodge people w/ a 2022 Hellcat. LOL How can I get in touch and get a clean logo from you for a sample? Should I share my email on here? Thanks!
Sorry for the delayed reply my friend.. if you have Instagram my account is RacerXNew .. shoot me a message
@@RacerX9 yes sir will do. Thank you!
I got into your channel last year by watching your scat pack/hellcat content. I prefer the hellcat over the twin turbo stang you had and the 170 but ill watch regardless unless you get an ev 😂
Your old hellcat
8:50 correction 9.46* To fix the wheel gap requires a 15'' conversion using a 315/60/15