Ranking Every Star Trek TV Series (& No, TNG Isn't In the Top 5)

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  • @beejcarson
    @beejcarson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    You made me rage flip the dabo table by putting DS9 at #3.

    • @disappointedidealist1989
      @disappointedidealist1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Dude, cut down on the raktajino, switch to decaf.

    • @MrJerks93
      @MrJerks93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Alamarain! Did you win? Hardly.

    • @dbags317
      @dbags317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah thats insane

    • @beejcarson
      @beejcarson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mmm-mmm space religion trek?

    • @chiragraju821
      @chiragraju821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrJerks93Allamaraine one two three
      Allamaraine come with me
      Allamaraine if you cam see

  • @scot8472
    @scot8472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    I appreciate seeing a list that doesn’t imply Star Trek started at its apex, and only went downhill from there.

    • @ozfocus
      @ozfocus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I completely agree with you. The exploration of new series is valiant, regardless of some of their shortcomings. TNG is often put on a pedestal for the nostalgia that accompanies it.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ozfocus TNG is comfort food, quite frankly. That creates the overall problem, because it makes far too many fans treat Star Trek as a safe, comfortable security blanket,... and that actually does a bit of disservice to the franchise

    • @MrDeadhead1952
      @MrDeadhead1952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@k1productions87 That's only true of 'new' fans, those of us who actually watched at the time of its actual release some of the stories were actually seen as pointed comments on major social issues of the time such as race relations, war-making, the cold war, and social issues. It's only when seen in retrospect that it 'feels safe and a comfort blanket'. The fans who attack 'modern' Trek are just devoid of imagination and never understood what Trek was about in the first place. As a Trek and Sci-Fan who is nearly 70, I despair of the so-called 'real' fans who attack new Trek because its not a re-tread

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDeadhead1952 I had not only watched every episode of TNG as they originally aired on television, but did so with my father (Star Trek was our bonding experience) AND did so as I was beginning my love affair with Star Trek beginning with Voyage Home (i.e. not starting with any space battle or action), so don't go calling me a "New fan"
      The major social issues that you speak of (every one of them in fact) were dealt with far stronger in Deep Space Nine, with far greater stakes. And this from someone who actually hated Deep Space Nine when it began, spouting the old standard go-to arbitrary complaints that were no more true back then than they are now. But at least I can acknowledge I was wrong.

    • @MrDeadhead1952
      @MrDeadhead1952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@k1productions87 I'm sorry but I'm talking about The Original Series and the issues raised in that and the manner in which it was done was just as strong as those in DS9 when the seen from the viewpoint of it's period. It was not as subtly done or which the same finesse but they were just as questioning it was just a more naive time. So the point of view of someone who is an original TOS viewer that does make you a 'new' fan but not in a bad way. When I talk about 'new' fans I'm talking about the ones in their thirties who are too young to have seen any of TV incarnations and only saw the Kelvin films before the current TV series. I have no problem with expressing an preference I just get annoyed with them they claim that new stuff is too WOKE when compared to earlier series which is BS.

  • @battlegirldeb
    @battlegirldeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    If you know this channel then you knew Enterprise would be the #1 show.

    • @Seanginty1
      @Seanginty1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      As it should be. I HAVE FAITH OF THE HEART!!!

    • @Ikaridark09
      @Ikaridark09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WHY ONLY HAVE 4 SEASONS???? 😭😭😭

    • @LeahBouley
      @LeahBouley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never really got into enterprise sadly, it never caught me like the rest of trek did and I was like 6-7 orso when enterprise came around and I don’t remember liking it as much as the movies or The rest of trek pre-Enterprise

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LeahBouley Give it a second chance, it's worth it.

    • @Matrim42
      @Matrim42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think Enterprise had potential, but I couldn’t stand most of it. If it had gotten the full 7 seasons I think it would’ve been much more respected (if you judged TNG off just the first two seasons it would be largely unwatchable, and it’s my favorite ST series). It definitely seemed to be finding its stride in the 4th season.

  • @NateNakao
    @NateNakao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    DS9 and Voyager were definitely the shows I remember most vividly on TV, despite at the time they were airing, I wanted to be more of a TNG fan since that was the cast the movies were focusing on. But I eventually had an orb experience and came to realize that DS9 was far more important to me than TNG.

  • @poomar
    @poomar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The fact that you picked that as your number one show... is... OUTSTANDING! Gotta be true to yourself!

  • @KyleWoodlock
    @KyleWoodlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    If we're ranking shows based on personal connection, it feels like everyone's #1 show is gonna be generational. Jessie says Enterprise was "my show" cause she's of the right age to have been watching that one week-to-week during her formative years. For me, that was Next Generation. It aired from when I was 4 to when I was 10, and was still heavily broadcast in syndication in the years following. I grew up with it. DS9 and Voyager overlapped in that time period for me, but... The really formative experiences were with TNG.
    DS9 was, objectively, the best Trek series, I think it's hard to argue against that. It had the most consistently good delivery through its whole run (even TNG during its heyday alternated incredible episodes with some real stinkers). But TNG is "my Trek" purely through accident of birth. For my older friends, that's TOS. And for some kids today, that's gonna be Discovery. And that's great! It's kinda like Star Wars, where some people became fans with the OT, some with the prequels, and some with the sequels, and that's a good thing, for diversity of experience in a community.

    • @KyleWoodlock
      @KyleWoodlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also just like Jessie, and I think might also be SOMEWHAT generational, I have a bigger connection to the TOS films than to the series. I think I saw the films before, and more often, than any of the series. I love bits and pieces of TOS, and I love that it started this whole thing, but when I picture the NCC-1701 no bloody A, B, C, or D in my mind, I picture the film refit version.

    • @albizu75
      @albizu75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyleWoodlock feel the same way. I love the 80s Star Trek movies with the original cast, but I'm not nearly as attached to TOS series.

    • @zannrebel1217
      @zannrebel1217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @William George As someone who grew up long after these shows finished there runs. And would later binges star trek from TNG all the way too enterprise on Netflix, I feel Voyager and TNG are Star trek in its purest form. And are better at setting out gene Rottonbary's vision. I like them best because it follows the themes very closely. DS9 is great in a different way because it sets its self out to pull the curtain from over star trek to give us a more objective view of the universe. Discovery first 3 seasons were trash, Picard is meh after season 2. It's not generational imo. You just need to look at your favorite series from an objective view. Anyone can still like garbage.

    • @zannrebel1217
      @zannrebel1217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw, I grew up along enterprise airing and its far from my favorite. You got to take your blinders off and look objectively.

    • @RiverJanewayRoslin
      @RiverJanewayRoslin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel similarly but mine is Voyager because Spike TV was doing a week to week replay when I was in elementary and middle schools that started with a huge Trek the halls my 5th grade Christmas (my introduction) for 4 days. I've grown to love other Treks but Voyager is my first and my favorite

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Riker:"...quadruples their sex drive..."
    Deana quietly: "...or more..."
    Riker: ".... Or more..., you didn't tell me that."
    Deana: "I didn't want to frighten you."
    I loved this scene.

    • @jjmfrees
      @jjmfrees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We know what Riker is doing on Nepenthe and why he needs a shield around his house.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jjmfrees They need soundproofing, probably. 😁😁😁🖖

  • @ComradePhoenix
    @ComradePhoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Somewhere, in an alternate universe, there is an intense debate in the fandom whether Manny Coto or Ira Steven Behr is the best showrunner, and Enterprise's seasons 5, 6, and 7 will be fondly remembered alongside DS9's.

  • @aztektheultimatewoman
    @aztektheultimatewoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “We feel fondness in absence.”
    *cries in Community: The Movie*

  • @yippeekaiyaymofo
    @yippeekaiyaymofo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My #1 is deep space nine. I didn’t appreciate it when it first aired but my recent rewatch was everything. It was a show ahead of it’s time.

  • @RabbiJoeInJerusalem
    @RabbiJoeInJerusalem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, so THAT's why Riker waited so long to finally get together with Deanna. He was waiting for that quadruple (or more) sex drive to kick in. Respect!

  • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
    @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "Enterprise" has never been even in my top 3, but I understand why you place it there based on your personal experience. My first Star Trek show was TOS. I saw it first-run as a kid (Yeah. I'm really old!), and I was totally WOWED by it! Looking at it now, it is extremely dated, and some of the episodes are really, REALLY bad, but at the time it was by far the best science fiction show on TV (compare it to "Lost in Space", for example) and many episodes were superb. "Balance of Terror" and "City on the Edge of Forever" come to mind immediately. Nevertheless, I would put "Deep Space Nine" top of the list for the best Star Trek show ever, and it has really stood the test of time.

    • @roberthelme8000
      @roberthelme8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw most of the TOS eps first-run as did you, Christopher. I was of a mind that it could never be bested. TNG was pretty awful the first two seasons, proving my point. I still think “City on the Edge of Forever” is the best Trek ep. Having said that, I became a rabid TNG fan starting with season 3. What an improvement! As the 2000s have rolled around, I also find TOS creaky for the most part with a few gems scattered throughout. The sexism is particularly grating (women can’t be starship captains, etc). I think at the time of this writing I feel the TOS movies are overall better than the series and as Jessie said, really explore the characters in depth. I would now put DS9 ahead of TNG with ENT pretty high up there. I love all the new shows, therefore it’s hard to rank them! I must admit I was blown away with how good Lower Decks was out of the starting gate. It’s a great time to be a Trek fan!

    • @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944
      @christopherstephenjenksbsg4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@roberthelme8000 I love Lower Decks as well, and I'm impressed with both Discovery and Picard. But Lower Decks is such a loving send-up of "classic" Trek that I can't help but love it!

    • @johnnyjuicebox7069
      @johnnyjuicebox7069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey don't badmouth Lost In Space lol

    • @paulhammond6978
      @paulhammond6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnnyjuicebox7069 Say, there was that "Young Sheldon" episode where Sheldon went to his first sci-fi convention, and one of his teachers showed up dressed as Professor Smith.

  • @dunaruiditos7620
    @dunaruiditos7620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I thought you were gonna rank them by their amount of Big Beard Energy 😔

  • @johntousseau9380
    @johntousseau9380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Voyager was my show. I knew the TOS movies and random TNG episodes. I remember sitting down and watching Voyager's premiere in 1995. Voyager was a show the whole family watched every week. DS9 I didn't appreciate until I was much, much older (I was 7 in 95). DS9 continues to be relevant and shine, and now it resonates the most for me.

  • @jarjared3522
    @jarjared3522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Nice to see the Animated Series is acknowledged for once.

  • @sarahscott5305
    @sarahscott5305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Enterprise was the first Star Trek series I ever saw with my big brother and it's had a special place in my heart ever since! I loved every season.
    For me, Discovery is "my" Star Trek series. I watched it while I was at uni and loved it x

    • @adamkarlsson3031
      @adamkarlsson3031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STD wins out on its diversity and inclusion.

    • @alethearia
      @alethearia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is almost my exact experience. Discovery and Enterprise are my Star Treks, it makes me happy any time I hear the intro themes of either of those shows.
      I grew up on Voyager. I fell in love with Enterprise. I became my own person with Discovery.

  • @Ailieorz
    @Ailieorz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Think of all the memes we'd be missing out on without the Animated Series...
    Otherwise the answer for me is always Janeway, I doubt it will ever be topped simply because growing up in the 90s and seeing a woman on screen in the Captain's chair who was as complex as she was powerful meant everything to me. I've never felt that way since and doubt I'll ever feel that way again.
    In support of TNG though, I don't think Data can be topped either. The character was superbly written and performed, anything now after will be compared to Data

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed; without the Animated Series, we wouldn't have had the best pop video EVER! Shatner's version of Common People is perfect when set to scenes from the Animated Show.
      th-cam.com/video/KXWEM4gZhg4/w-d-xo.html

    • @GeekFilter
      @GeekFilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And we wouldn't have Kirk's middle name, Amanda's last name, McCoy's daughter's name, a huge chunk of Spock's childhood & Vulcan culture, Uhura in charge of the Enterprise (twice!) the holodeck, the first captain of the Enterprise Robert April (as he was only mentioned in BTS production notes) Walter Koenig's writing career....and possibly any Star Trek after TOS really!

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@euansmith3699 thank you for the video link it was... an experience, i am not sure if i saww it before or not, perhaps i have

  • @LeahBouley
    @LeahBouley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Controversial opinion, I love voyager xD cause seven of nine is the character I identified with more than any other, her story going from drone to an individual is the most iconic in all of trek in my opinion, I was amazed that the way the character was written was how I felt due to my mental health issues, I felt like an emotionless drone kinda like how seven was at the beginning but then she actually developed and grew which pushed me to grow and improve.

    • @jesuschild07able
      @jesuschild07able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was me with Janeway. I was a woman who liked to lead, keep a level head, but also deeply cared for people. Janeway was my role model as a child. She wasn’t like other strong female characters who became sweet after a love interest , no she had to make tough choices. I thought I was the only Trekkie that loved the show.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesuschild07able You're not. Janeway rocks!!!

  • @johngingras
    @johngingras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I'm still sad that Enterprise didn't get further seasons. It was really coming into its own, and I feel it could have been incredible.

    • @albizu75
      @albizu75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The last season of Enterprise was great. It's really sad that it was cancelled right after its best season.

    • @fluffskunk
      @fluffskunk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They wasted 2 whole seasons, maybe three. Just wasted. Trek shows keep taking a while to find their footage, but Enterprise was particularly bad because like Voyager, it threw the premise out the window immediately. "This is the story of how the Federation came together. So here's multiple conflicts with species we've never seen before, and a bunch of timey-wimey shananegans that won't pay off at all." You can't stumble that badly out of the gate with a creative staff that have been doing basically the same show since season 2 of TNG.

    • @monkeytime9851
      @monkeytime9851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really liked the character of the doctor on that show.

  • @nichtschwert3307
    @nichtschwert3307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Me: "Oh my God. Really? She put THAT at number 1?! REALLY?!"
    Also me: *belts out Faith of the heart as soon as it starts playing*

    • @DawnDavidson
      @DawnDavidson ปีที่แล้ว

      I just did a paper for my grad studies in counseling psychology. I organized it around Faith of the Heart. :D And as a polyamorous person, Dr Phlox is part of why. :)

    • @nichtschwert3307
      @nichtschwert3307 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DawnDavidson Oh a fellow polyam. High five!

  • @MonCappy
    @MonCappy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Star Trek: Enterprise is an interesting case. It finally found its voice when the executives pulled the plug. I happen to think it would've found its audience if it hadn't been cancelled.

    • @maxwellschmidt235
      @maxwellschmidt235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe, but I think it had a few things running against it, not all of which are on the show or its creative staff or even the network. One big thing is that the sci fi channel was firing on all cylinders, and it was tough for anyone to compete. It seems like the first time star trek wasn't the name brand that made all other tv space opera look like imitation.

    • @MonCappy
      @MonCappy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxwellschmidt235 Those are good points, but at the same time, I think the series would've seen modest to moderate growth in its audience had it been given a chance to go seven seasons.

  • @amorelus
    @amorelus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Benjamin Sisko, the only leader in any Trek series that didnt want to be a leader or special in anyway. He ends ups, Punching Q, leading an Armada against the Dominion, joins the profits. He is very multifaceted, he's by the book but if he has to, he'll break all the rules and fight dirty.

  • @johncoffman5536
    @johncoffman5536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The algorithm is just our name for the Great Material Continuum; gotta navigate that river, Jessie!

    • @mattgelfer
      @mattgelfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Great River provides.

    • @johncoffman5536
      @johncoffman5536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattgelfer The Great River Provides

    • @cecilialundberg3898
      @cecilialundberg3898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johncoffman5536 The Great River provides.

    • @sparshjohri1109
      @sparshjohri1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cecilialundberg3898 The Great River provides.

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "Jessie putts enterprise and lower decks higher than TNG and OS"
    Me: Wait, so I am not the only one?

    • @pixieskitty
      @pixieskitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are dozens of us! DOZENS!!!

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both ENT and Lower Decks are in my top three, with Enterprise frequently taking the top spot. So you're definitely not alone

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're not. 👍

    • @trunkage
      @trunkage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I rewatched TNG during the pandemic... I don't know why keep asking for this

    • @thedoctor1263
      @thedoctor1263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Am I the only one who puts discovery as 1 and Picard as 2

  • @ferninthehouse
    @ferninthehouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one thing about DS9 is i wish it didn't take till the end of the show for kira and odo to get together but i understand why it took so long

  • @CmdrKing
    @CmdrKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I appreciate your breakdown or Discovery here a lot because it’s something a lot of people experience but don’t really think about, the way community influences how we experience media and how the difference between an average show and your favorite show can just be the ability to dig into it with other fans, the way fandom can build anticipation that get you emotionally ready to BE emotional, all those things.

    • @selalewow
      @selalewow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My biggest issue with Discovery is how they forced the "inclusivity". They did not normalize it, they shined a spotlight on it every time and that takes away from the smoothness. When TOS had a colored woman on the bridge they did not point it out every episode. They had that one episode with Lincoln but that was the stand out. Discovery seems to point and say "see, see, we are inclusive. Look at all the diversity" which does not make it seem like this is the norm in this universe but the exception.

    • @naomicoffman1315
      @naomicoffman1315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@selalewow That's interesting to hear, since I generally felt the opposite. I know this is an old comment, but I'd love to hear more about your perspective. It's of interest to me as someone who tries to write the way you described TOS, as well as simple curiosity.

  • @Bookworm676645
    @Bookworm676645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I grew up specifically watching Voyager reruns every night. I watched the series so many times as a kid that it's honestly such a big part of me. I absolutely agree with you that the characters are beautiful and deep, and I connect to them so much.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though I wouldn't have had anywhere near the same order personally, I really enjoyed hearing your reasons why you tracked these as you did. One of the things I love about star trek is how each series can impact people in many different ways. Hearing your opinions on some of my personally lower ranked Trek shows actually has me looking at them in a different light. Thanks for such a lovely and thoughtful video.

  • @ozfocus
    @ozfocus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Since we're being honest, Where My Heart Will Take Me was my ringtone in high school (on silent during class).

  • @jacinta-thereseoliverio6989
    @jacinta-thereseoliverio6989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    love this way of ranking. Dont think i could pick between DS9 or voyager because those were the ones i grew up with and really postively shaped the female role models in my life

  • @dentoncrimescene
    @dentoncrimescene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm watching Enterprise again at the moment. The first two seasons are much better that I remember. How they refer back to previous episodes and how things have consequences is really good.
    I didn't really like lower decks though, I don't get it I think.

  • @starrk199
    @starrk199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m surprised by how much Enterprise resonates with me. I probably wouldn’t make it #1 but it would be up there. The first time I watched it I didn’t think I’d be so invested in Trip’s character and yet he and T’pol are my favorites on the show.

  • @StarWarsHour
    @StarWarsHour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To quote that one guy in Ted, “you got guts. We need guts”

  • @Sootielove
    @Sootielove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Lower decks is the only star trek series I've fully watches and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it as well! As an animation fan I was pleasantly surprised at how much heart it had considering how that style has a bad reputation

    • @animatorgeek
      @animatorgeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm interested to understand what you mean by "that style." Animation in general? Or maybe raunchy animation for adults?

    • @ReikoDash
      @ReikoDash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@animatorgeek a lot of cartoons nowadays have a very similar art style dubbed "the calarts style" where the art styles share similar traits. not sure how to explain them exactly, but see gravity falls, final space, and amphibia for some examples.

    • @Sootielove
      @Sootielove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@animatorgeek Thin line adult animation, usually associated with family guy and such

    • @Sootielove
      @Sootielove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ReikoDash No, the calarts style is generally a myth and not quite what I was talking about considering the massive variety between the shows that use it. Gravity falls and Amphibia have quite a different reputation/tone to Rick and Morty which has a different reputation to Final Space

    • @ReikoDash
      @ReikoDash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sootielove ohh okay, my bad! and yeah i do know that it's a myth and the variety of shows that use it, whenever i see the word "style" my mind just immediately jumps to art style lmao

  • @mgalusic
    @mgalusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about a list of star trek based shows like "Orville", "Red Dwarf", that episode of "Black Mirror", etc?

  • @ulyssesthepagan7873
    @ulyssesthepagan7873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was a little distracted with your hair, it looks fantastic!

  • @ArnLPs
    @ArnLPs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me and my girlfriend/future wife had our first kiss watching Star Trek, the original Series.
    Nothing will ever get more important to me than that.

  • @RiverJanewayRoslin
    @RiverJanewayRoslin ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found your channel on Monday and I know I've been all over you comments but your videos give me so much joy. I work in a call center and so much of my day is being yelled at. Thank you for being the joy in my day between calls and allowing me to relax with a "friend" after work as I live very far from my friends.

  • @maxwellschmidt235
    @maxwellschmidt235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm sure everyone's saying this, but Star Trek has three settings. Good, great, DS9.
    Great job teasing a hot take that isn't actually all that hot, then dropping the bomb.

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is only one proper way to rank Star Trek, it’s the seatbelt standard 😎

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So...Basically only Beyond is on that list then? :P

    • @CaptainPikeachu
      @CaptainPikeachu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KayleighBourquin lol Disco and Picard would be very high on that list too 😝

  • @hamobu
    @hamobu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thing that I hate about Star Trek Enterprise is that they went backwards in time instead of forwards. First of all, everyone was looking forward to see the universe after Voyager came back and the Dominion war ended. Also, by going back in time, they boxed themselves in by future developments and undermined earlier shows that were set in their future. It might have been interesting to see stories limited by lower tech, but that didn't happen either since they still had transporters, shields, and everything from earlier shows.
    However, Enterprise did have really good stories and characters.

  • @dorianr4770
    @dorianr4770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always put TOS as #1. I know it's dated and things. But just so much nostalgia. And it started it all. And just nothing better than the Spock Kirk McCoy camaraderie. I mean yeah. I just love TOS.

  • @alexandermiller1594
    @alexandermiller1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorites are Discovery, Enterprise, and DS9. Enterprie was my first Trek, and I used to watch reruns on the Sy-Fy channel. I fell in love with Hoshi Sato and she was an idol for me because I loved languages just like her, and it helped me teach myself the fundamentals of linguistics. Discovery was so exciting when it first came out, and it offers just such amazing production value and acting opportunities. Last, DS9, just amazing, and Kira Nerys is probably my favorite character in all of trek.

  • @mst3khaleesi943
    @mst3khaleesi943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had a rough few days (as I type this, I've been awake for nearly 40 hours straight), but I legitimately did a little happy dance hearing about your upcoming video and announcements!

    • @JessieGender1
      @JessieGender1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sending you love. I know how hard it can get so I hope you’re ok

    • @mst3khaleesi943
      @mst3khaleesi943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JessieGender1 Oh my goodness, I never thought you'd even see this, much less reply! I think I am doing better, and I'm genuinely touched that you reached out. You truly made my day... night... morning, maybe? I've lost track, but whatever hour it is, it's an entire warp drive better than before!

    • @JessieGender1
      @JessieGender1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mst3khaleesi943 ❤️😊❤️ please get some rest friend

    • @mst3khaleesi943
      @mst3khaleesi943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JessieGender1 I promise you that I will! Either the birds have started chirping, or I'm beginning to hear colors 😅 But seriously, you truly brightened things up for me ❤

  • @alethearia
    @alethearia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Star Trek Discovery Season 2 Episode 6 "The Sound of Thunder" is a masterclass in perspective and power in cinematography and you cannot convince me otherwise. The style might not be for everyone, but it is masterfully executed.

  • @markh.williamsauthor7286
    @markh.williamsauthor7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love them all. I was a child when TOS premiered, so I grew up with it. But... I love them all because of what they bring to the universe and the time frames in my life when I enjoyed them. I love Discovery, too even though there are so many that don't.

    • @markh.williamsauthor7286
      @markh.williamsauthor7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My personal view is I would put discovery higher and lower decks lower (I like it, but it's too comedy for my tastes). But generally have the same take as you do.

  • @beffiesv650
    @beffiesv650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing this! I’m catching up with the newer series and this helps me prioritize which show to watch next.
    Also, I just love your positive takes on all the shows.
    Right now, I’m watching Discovery and I love it.

  • @Seven35888
    @Seven35888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, Enterprise is special because it shows humanity’s humble humble beginnings, our brightest minds pushing Zefram’s Cochran’s legacy forward by achieving higher warp factors, prefacing our developing relationships at that point with our closest neighbors, foreshadowing the birth of the Federation. It also shows how fast humanity elevated itself compared to other species, with Trip saying they eliminated poverty, world hunger, war all in under two generations. It’s just a celebration of the human spirit I think, and it’s totally that Trek show for cracking open a cold one with the boys I can’t explain it lol. It sucks that they pulled the plug so early bc I could easily see it being similar to TNG in that it’s first two seasons were wonky and everything after would’ve been awesome. Sucks to think about.

  • @heartofdawn2341
    @heartofdawn2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My favourite 'trek' is actually The Orville. It's irreverent and offbeat and deconstructionist but at the same time such a love letter to the franchise. The movie Galaxy Quest is up there for the exact same reason.

  • @mattgelfer
    @mattgelfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think I enjoyed this video so much BECAUSE your choices were all different than mine would have been. How boring would the world be if everyone agreed about everything all the time? And by "everything" I just mean important stuff. Like Star Trek.

  • @samanthaw3845
    @samanthaw3845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember watching Voyager as a kid - 6 years old, my parents would let me stay up until late to watch Voyager on UPN. I watched Enterprise in middle school when it was airing, of course, and I loved it (don't judge me lol I adore this show), but Voyager will always hold a special place in my heart bc of the nostalgia.

  • @skyler4517
    @skyler4517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Voyager is my favorite. Pretty much for the reasons you stated for liking it: the characters are great. I also liked the fakeouts they did in some of the episodes, where you thought it was a trope episode when the opening started but it turned out to be something else.

  • @NPS2204
    @NPS2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    TNG is my personal favourite because of the characters, most especially Picard and Data who are my favourite Star Trek characters.

  • @Lia-uf1ir
    @Lia-uf1ir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh yes, pleeeease do a video on Tendi! She’s my favorite character on Lower Decks! Mariner is my second-favorite. 😊❤️

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second this, I'd love to see a video on Tendi!

    • @albizu75
      @albizu75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tendi for the win!

  • @AshtontheCryptid
    @AshtontheCryptid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's so good to see Lower Decks getting the love it deserves. So many people in the fandom just straight up ignore it. Nice list :)

  • @EmpressOfCatsup
    @EmpressOfCatsup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I should watch some of the newer series at some point because I haven't watched one since I watched season 2 of Discovery on CBS All Access. My ranking for which shows resonated the most with me would be:
    1. Voyager
    2. DS9
    3. TOS/TAS (TAS is just another season of TOS made a decade later imo. It has the same characters and feels very similar story-wise.)
    4. TNG
    5. Discovery
    6. Enterprise
    The first series I watched was TOS. I think I started TNG and thought it was so bad that I watched Enterprise next instead and only went back to TNG after that. The single worst season in all of Star Trek has to be season 1 of TNG, which feels like bad fan fiction of TOS, but I find the post-9/11 clichés so obnoxious that most media from that time is ruined for me.

  • @lorensims4846
    @lorensims4846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh you kids! I've been a fan ever since I saw that early NBC promo when we were visiting my grandparents in Florida (we didn't get NBC at home) "In a ship the size of a city…"
    The only first-run episodes I saw were summer reruns when we were vacationing in Florida again. "Return of the Archons", "This Side of Paradise". I was always a little suspicious of Sulu after these. I was worried that he was their Kowalski (the guy on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea who everything weird happened to).
    As long as we're talking 'personal truth' I grew up on Lost in Space and only dreamed of Star Trek.
    Then in the '70s we got cable and two Star Trek reruns every day at 4:00 and 5:00 out of Cleveland and one at 5:30 from Cincinnati. The episodes from the different cities were edited differently for commercials so you could see senes you had never seen from one city or the other. We were saturated! The book "The Making of Star Trek" came out about the same time and the Animated Series started on Saturday mornings.
    Of course, THIS is MY Star Trek. "The first and only rule of Star Trek: the very first is always the very best." this means ships, captains, Klingons, everything.
    I didn't appreciate Larry Niven inserting elements of his "Known Space" universe into Star Trek (though I was a huge Niven fan at the time), but while the animated series had some of the cheesiest animation (that's the only way they could afford to do it), most of the original cast was there and they had some of the very best writing on Saturday morning. Hey, they introduced the holodeck! I was amazed they brought it forward for Encounter at Farpoint.
    Next Generation got off to a rough start but was perfectly acceptable and just got so much better over the years. Deep Space Nine was awesome from the start, but so was Babylon 5 (with their "we're not Star Trek" vibe nagging me at the start). Voyager was fun and interesting as well, but over the years, moving to other media markets, I lost track of the last couple seasons of DS9 and probably even more of Voyager.
    "Enterprise" was also a lot of fun, but with the common problem with prequels of doing a lot more with things that were supposedly only recently discovered in the original series.
    The Xinti war seemed to come out of nowhere and continue endlessly, until it vanished with nary a trace. I felt they just didn't know what they wanted to do with the show, but they had great characters and espoused great ideas. I didn't watch that series to the end either, but it was one of my favorites along with DS9. I've started rewatching DS9 off and on recently.
    I Will NOT pay money to CBS All Access after what they did so specifically to Axanar (taking down Star Trek Continues with it), so I'm unfamiliar with Discovery, Below Decks (which looks like fun) or Short Trek (which I've never heard of).
    Orville is the best new Trek (OK, not-Trek) I've found. Seth McFarland is working so hard to pay tribute to Star Trek he keeps forgetting to do the jokes. They've done some VERY Star Trek episodes, better than much 'real' Trek.
    And Galaxy Quest has to rank as the best Star Trek parody.

    • @lorensims4846
      @lorensims4846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Mudd's Women" sexist?! It describes women treated as chattel within a local sexist context, artificially enhanced with a mysterious drug that makes them very attractive, in obvious and non-obvious ways.
      You show the transporter crew leering, they're clearly responding to the intended effects of the drug. This only demonstrates its effectiveness.
      The story goes on to show the women standing up for their own interests against the guy trafficking them.

  • @draksus
    @draksus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rom: "What's a bunt?"
    Nog: "That's my dad."

  • @tanuki2898
    @tanuki2898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:20
    Take Me Out to the Holosuite, anyone?
    Edit: Voyager and DS9 tie for first for me, as Janeway, Harry Kim and Seven were the characters I could relate to the most, and DS9 has some of my most favorite morally grey episodes.

  • @hamobu
    @hamobu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    TOS and TNG were more about concepts related to science and morality. Later shows added more character development and personal drama.

  • @mishapurser4439
    @mishapurser4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With Star Trek Lower Decks: I really like the more proletarian approach, but I don't like the wild high energy of the characters. I prefer the more reserved dignity of characters in other Star Trek series that is more becoming of a Star Fleet officer.
    With Star Trek Enterprise: I did enjoy this series but the final ending would have been 10x better with one last speech epilogue from the Captain at the meeting.
    My favourite Star Trek so far is Star Trek Voyager because Janeway is such a powerful inspiration for me and the kind of woman I want to become.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, but they're not officers, at least not yet!

  • @animatorgeek
    @animatorgeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see Lower Decks so high on your list. It may be my favorite of them all. I've come to realize that some of my favorite stories are humorous sci-fi, so I was delighted when I first heard there would be a funny Star Trek show, and overjoyed when it turned out to be really good.

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enterprise as 1st Pick...
    Kinda unusual but also really bold
    My fav. Show is... Surprise DS9
    I HATED it as a Kid, but learned to Love it as an adult!
    PS. Nice DK Patreon Rap 😅

  • @carlosrvra
    @carlosrvra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jessie: (puts TNG in the back half of her list)
    A big chunk of Trekdom: (shocked silence)
    Me from somewhere in the back: "DAMN! Starbase 80?!?!"

  • @markparkinson6947
    @markparkinson6947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how you are willing to have a different opinion to most Star Trek fans, which is refreshing to see.

  • @brunokeyworth
    @brunokeyworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like your list. Here's mine:
    1. Deep Space Nine
    2. Enterprise
    3. The Next Generation
    4. The Original Series
    5. Discovery
    6. Lower Decks
    7. Voyager
    8. Picard
    9. The Animated Series
    I have only watched the first season of 'Short Treks', and generally I think it makes more sense to judge them individually than as a combined show.
    Also, controversial opinion: I really like the theme tune of Enterprise, and think it totally fits the theme of the show.

  • @RowanJColeman
    @RowanJColeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh Christ, you can't just drop a clip from The Visitor on my like that! I'm gonna go cry now.

  • @JulianGreystoke
    @JulianGreystoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh dang, Voyager got higher than I thought! That show was the one we watched as a family growing up, so flawed as it is, it is still one of my faves!

  • @mariaantoniaportodevasconc4012
    @mariaantoniaportodevasconc4012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OMG VOYAGER AND TNG LOWER THEM LOWER DECKS.... IM DEAD

  • @cutegixie
    @cutegixie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm on episode eight of Enterprise and now I'm beginning to look forward to it instead of feeling like it's gonna be a slog that I have to get through to get to the more modern shows

  • @HarveyParsons1975
    @HarveyParsons1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Star Trek Discovery is the first Star Trek series that has traveled 930 years in the future.

    • @GeekFilter
      @GeekFilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An episode of Voyager was 700 years in the future (from 2374) so not too shabby!

  • @meritan823
    @meritan823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you’re telling me there’s a Star Trek show....that’s animated....AND has HUMOR as an underlying tone?! Goddamn what rock have I been hiding under to not have even heard of it?!
    I grew up watching voyager and ds9. My dad actually had a coworker who also watched ds9 and they would excitedly talk to each other over what they thought would happen next plot wise (confusing all their coworkers with the Star Trek jargon XD). I have vague memories of tng, and was sad that technically Picard wouldn’t let me on the bridge since I was a kid at the time. Also was confused as to why Geordie was also teaching me about cool books on Reading Rainbow which was geared more towards my age group looool
    But if we’re talking about “hey this episode brought me to tears and somehow helped me process my grief in a personal way that I never knew a fictional character could do....I’ve gotta go with the Borg plot for Picard and then again for that first episode of ds9.
    I had really bad anxiety for a year, and felt like single hour I made it through for one day was just a countdown to whatever bs I would have to endure the next day. I eventually did get better, and a year or so later I discovered that tng and ds9 were on Netflix. So I happily decided to rewatch everything since I was much too little when the shows came out to really grasp all the concepts.
    AND HOO BOY. DEM EPISODES.
    When Picard started crying after fighting with his brother saying, “I couldn’t stop them. I should have been able to stop them” as he struggled to come to terms with how the Borg took his free will, and in ds9 when I watched the prophets from the wormhole standing over Sisko mourning his wife and telling him “this is not linear.” OHHHH. BOOOOOOY.
    Like yeah no biggie. Just fictional characters literally explaining better than I ever could about how helpless I felt with anxiety and how hard it was to move forward.
    ANYWAY. Thank you for your lovely list. I’m so glad you made it personalized it to you because frankly what else kind of list matters?

  • @emilygonzales3118
    @emilygonzales3118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more you talk about Enterprise the more cautiously excited I am to start it. I'm almost done watching Voyager and then I'm starting from Enterprise through the rest of the shows by in-universe order and I'm more optimistic about ENT now than I was before stumbling upon your channel. Also, love the new haircut!

  • @sigyn27
    @sigyn27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh no, TAS is always at the bottom of everyone's list and I love it :D It's brilliant at times and very silly most of the time, but it just improves my mood whenever I watch an episode. My list at the moment is:
    1. DS9 (ultimate number 1)
    2. Voyager (I am in the middle of it, so I might change my mind later, but I love love love the characters)
    3. TOS (very dated, but I love it)
    4. TNG (love Data and Picard)
    5. TAS (it's just so much fun to watch)
    6. Picard (mixed feelings but looking forward to s2)
    7. Discovery (started watching s3 but I just don't like the characters that much, apart from Pike in s2)
    Lower Decks - I watched two episodes and liked it but I need to watch the rest
    Short Treks - I watched one or two, mixed feelings
    Enterprise - I watched some episodes many years ago (and didn't like it) but need to watch more of it

    • @GeekFilter
      @GeekFilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay! someone with my viewpoint!

    • @sigyn27
      @sigyn27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeekFilter I'm happy I'm not the only one :)

  • @anaf3570
    @anaf3570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mine would be
    1. TNG*
    2. DS9*
    3. VOY
    4. TOS.
    I agree about time travel being overused on Voyager , but after Voyager, considering all the accidents on transporters and the holodeck, it's better. If I was in starfleet, I would recommend to stop using transporters and holodecks.
    * DS9 and TNG are almost tied

  • @WickedNPC
    @WickedNPC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never gave Enterprise a chance. After seeing the first episode I knew that I never wanted to hear that intro song ever again.
    Anyhow I grew up watching TNG with my family so that series will always be closest to my heart. I also had a crush on Data...

    • @KatharineOsborne
      @KatharineOsborne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well good news, if you stream it on Netflix you can skip the intro (personally I love it because it’s just so positive, but to each their own). I just finished bingeing it for the first time and it’s worth a shot.

    • @beejcarson
      @beejcarson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoyed it (except s3) generally but yeah that song....

    • @WickedNPC
      @WickedNPC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KatharineOsborne Yes I might just do that. It wasn't an option at the time it aired on television.

    • @cryofpaine
      @cryofpaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually liked the theme.

    • @katmatally
      @katmatally 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WickedNPC It's pretty darned good, so give it a watch. Minus the theme.

  • @SimonPicard
    @SimonPicard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mother used to watch Voyager. Then when I was 14 I remembered it. So I started watching Voyager. Shortly afterwards, on the weekend, all Star Trek films were shown on TV. Of course, I watched them :) Star Trek also showed me that it's okay to be gay. I am very grateful for that. Before that, I was really scared of being bad because I'm gay.

  • @traitken
    @traitken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great thought out list. I was glad to see Lower Decks rated so high. I agreed with you till the top 3. I would have had DS9 at number one, followed by Discovery, then Enterprise. TOS was my first Trek in 1969, but have loved how it has evolved. Keep up you amazing work. I will be doing a deep dive into your channel, not only for the the Trek takes. I could not love your video on work more. I work in health care and am a workaholic. What you said really touched me. I am going to watch it with my wife, as she is trying to get me to pull back some.

  • @GeekFilter
    @GeekFilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My alternate title "Ranking Every Star Trek TV Series (or how to make GeekFilter very sad)"

    • @JessieGender1
      @JessieGender1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    • @GeekFilter
      @GeekFilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JessieGender1 I hope you know I am just joshing with you! And I like your criteria - it's entertainment everything is subjective!

  • @salenstormwing
    @salenstormwing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't really put Voyager up as highly on my list just because I feel the writing for Janeway was just too damn inconsistent. The rest of the crew (except Neelix) was fine, but Janeway's irrational behavior from being written so all over the place... It's one of the reasons I agree with SF Debris' "Psycho Janeway" theory. Her being an evil mirror-universe style super villain explains her actions because otherwise it would just be bad writing. Also, I really don't care for Neelix. But otherwise, solid cast, just feel the show was hampered by poor writers and the "Status Quo Must Endure" of 99% of all the episodes.

  • @posindustries
    @posindustries 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your dedication to the schlockiest side of Star Trek is, frankly, admirable, even if I'll never understand it, and I'm just glad you're having a good time.

  • @stephenvelez9710
    @stephenvelez9710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much of what we love about Star Trek is personal. Certainly, a lot of what I love about Star Trek is specifically about what it means to me, my connections, my thought process, my experiences with it, and yes, how the configuration of the show speaks to me and my identity. Thank you Jessie, for making a list based on how your personal relationship with it makes you feel.

  • @ztoical
    @ztoical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    DS9 will always be top for me. I grew up with TNG but its not aged well and I don't find myself going back to re-watch whole seasons where as I've watched DS9 through from start to end several times

    • @ztoical
      @ztoical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also I'm glad I'm not alone in love for Enterprise

    • @steveturner609
      @steveturner609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! I think TNG hasn’t aged well unfortunately, I think in many ways it looks very dated now, and is difficult to re watch…. But Enterprise, ah, what a show for me it’s probably the best of Star Trek on a par with DS9, if only they weren’t cancelled after just 4 seasons!!

  • @WhammeWhamme
    @WhammeWhamme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, that's definitely not *my* order for the shows. But it's a list that makes me re-evaluate where I'd put some of them. And it is, after all, about taste and what shows mean *to you*. So a great video, as per usual. Keep up the good work Jessie. :)

  • @jjmfrees
    @jjmfrees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want to be involved in the Jesse Maneuver 😂

  • @MattHarropActor
    @MattHarropActor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t u think the series u saw first, when u were growing up always has a place in ur heart. For me TNG is top. 1 duff season but with crazy episodes such as Tasha dying. Enterprise 1? Nooooooo. It was too inconsistent. Also I didn’t resonate with any characters.
    I wanted to like it so much.
    TOP 5!
    1 TNG
    2 DS9
    3 STV
    4 ORIGINAL
    5 PICARD

  • @VulcanTrekkie45
    @VulcanTrekkie45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's my list:
    10. TAS
    9. TOS
    8. ENT
    7. SHO
    6. LD
    5. VOY
    4. DISC
    3. DS9
    2. TNG
    1. PIC

    • @VulcanTrekkie45
      @VulcanTrekkie45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I should say that shows that I absolutely adore starts around 7.5. Enterprise I like, but it shows how tired the franchise was at that point and has a lot of problematic points and themes that have come to light since its airing.

  • @DLZ2000
    @DLZ2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started watching Trek when I was in fourth grade, during TNG's fourth season. It was after my younger brother started, based on the recommendation a friend of his made. I snuck downstairs as he watched "The Mind's Eye," but the earliest one I remember watching was a repeat of "Devil's Due," I think in the spring of 1991. The first Trek show I watched from beginning to end as it aired was DS9, from January 3, 1993 in sixth grade. It ended the day before I graduated high school. So, it was perfectly timed for me, in that I was ready for more grown-up Trek, but it was also while I was living at home and watching TV on a regular basis.
    As far as the show itself, I consistently rank it at the top, for some of the reasons you said, but also it has the best dialogue of any Trek series to date. Even bad episodes would be elevated by great lines. There are two spectrums along which I felt it hit a sweet spot. The show was neither too light nor too dark, and the show was neither too episodic nor too serialized. Some of that was a function of the 26 episode season, but also because they simply had a mandate that any events in one episode could have consequences, positive or negative, in another episode.
    The show was the only one with an exclusively white male writing staff, not counting freelancers (even TOS had DC Fontana on staff, and TAS, VOY, and DSC have all had female showrunners at one point or another; there has yet to be a Trek show with a non-white showrunner), but the show still managed to demonstrate the importance of representation on both sides of the camera, when Avery Brooks' influential commentary on race could be felt in crafting stories like Past Tense, Far Beyond the Stars, Baddabing Baddabang, and What We Leave Behind. The show was maybe the first to make such direct social commentary, free from the allegorical facade of foreheads of the week, but delving into our real-world history much more.
    Ranking the rest in terms of personal impact:
    TNG: Again, it was really my first Trek series, so I still think of episodes from seasons five, six, and seven to be "new" episodes on some level. They did really light serialization, and set up the spinoffs of both DS9 and VOY pretty well. It had a pretty reliable format, with a jeopardy A plot and a character-based B plot, which kind of set the template for a lot of Trek to follow, at least in the Berman-era. And even though the characters were conflict averse, they were still engaging because they were just really competent people that generally had the same goals in mind and rooted for each others' journeys.
    Picard: I think, of the current shows, I kind of like this one the best in some ways. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that the dialogue is often quite rich and poetic. I think that really helped sell the Picard/Data conversations that bookend the first season, as well as provide Picard some great lines in key situations, like "the pyramids were an example of colossal vanity," or "fear is an incompetent teacher." And Raffi has found redemption through nurturing, "you bet it's cake!" I also appreciate that it's as close as we've gotten to a civilian Trek series, which is what I've wanted for years.
    DSC: This show relaunched Trek in a massive way. We have it to thank for the explosion of new shows, and for really breaking the format for what a Trek show can be. Even though DS9 is my favorite, and even though it's a hybrid crew of Starfleet, Bajoran militia, and civilians, even that show was basically about a captain and crew in all the standard positions. Discovery declared that the show could have an unstable captain's seat. We can go three years without knowing who the CMO or chief engineer are. We can follow the redemption of one character across two ships and the underdog lower decks crew she befriends along the way. We can normalize wearing a heart on one's sleeve as fuel for doing a better job, instead of seeing crying as a weakness. And yes, the diversity is super strong with this show. Each season learned some lessons from the previous ones by developing the likeable bridge crew a bit more, making the antagonists less malicious each time, and making the show just slightly more episodic (not that it's inherently a problem, but the format for season three was a nice hybrid). Forget Me Not is a top ten episode in all of Trek for me, I think. As far as me, though, when I was a kid, I had a Star Trek VI edition of the 1701-A model kit, with crappy pylons. My uncle helped me turn it into a kitbash, with a much more compact design. I called the ship the USS Discovery, a science workhorse that got a new mission to patrol the contentious Klingon border in the wake of the Khitomer Accords. Coincidence?
    TOS/TAS: I kind of group these shows together since there's so much overlap in the staff, TAS was designed to hue as close to TOS as possible, and even included story ideas that never came to fruition in TOS. I happen to think that the gender and sexual politics of all Trek is fairly problematic until maybe Star Trek Beyond. So, I think that while the current era of Trek gets criticized for being too adult, previous eras of Trek should be watched by children only if there are adults present who can place the show in a proper historical context. I agree that the TOS movies did a better job with these characters, but I also think that a lot of important things about Trek are established here. If I think someone can handle old TV, I usually suggest The Corbomite Maneuver, Arena, Errand of Mercy, Balance of Terror, and Devil in the Dark as a starting point, because they're largely about seemingly implacable foes learning to communicate, often to solve problems. To me, that's the thesis statement of Trek. Also, a lot of DC Fontana and Gene Coon's writing really helped to build the world of Trek as it would later evolve. I was watching TOS concurrently with TNG, in my pre-DS9 days. DS9 actually replaced TOS reruns on my local station.
    Lower Decks: I think this show is really tight in its characterizations. Tendi and Rutherford are fantastic, as are the supportive department heads like Billups. Of the new shows, I kind of think it's one I have some reservations about, because I'm not quite sure where the writers are on the Boimler/Mariner spectrum of by-the-book vs. practical real-world maverick methodology. I'm not sure where I am, to be honest. So, I kind of graded those episodes measured alongside that spectrum. Also, about ten years ago, I was in an animated fan-film series called Star Trek: Mariner, which took place in the Star Trek: Online universe. It took place on the Mariner and had a similar animation style. I played Sirol, the Andorian security chief. Coincidence?
    Short Treks: I kind of hope this show comes back. It's a fun anthology series. Back in the days of 26 episode seasons, the Trek shows could do off-beat one-off stories. And this seems to be where those live, for now. So, I'm hungry for more that kind of thing, even if they tend to use it as a test bed for experimental Trek, or as a supplement to other shows.
    ENT: I gave this show a chance when I was a junior in college, then again when I was a senior, then a couple of years later for the finale. But I didn't really give it a solid watchthrough until 2013. I enjoyed it. I think I would have made a couple of changes: I would have made the crew UESPA civilians, and/or Boomers. I would have liked to have seen the original plan for the first season, about building the ship and gathering the crew, and then hoped the show would go long enough to show the Romulan War and the birth of the UFP. The show had some pretty iffy post-9/11 politics, and it was considerably less diverse than even the most recent Trek shows at the time, but it seemed like an earnest attempt to learn some lessons from VOY's problems. They were much more conservative about shuttles, crew members, and torpedoes getting lost, and they paid more attention to internal continuity. But they didn't have the knack for characterization and dialogue that DS9 did even at its worst. That said, it certainly set the precedent for Trek moving forward, in that it was probably the first Trek that looked cinematic and it was the first Trek show that started retconning the visual look of past Trek to a large degree.
    VOY: There are two general constants in my series rankings: DS9 at the top and VOY at the bottom. It's a bit simplistic, but it kind of betrays the different philosophies of the TNG writers who split off into either show. DS9 tended to have great dialogue, character development, and internal consistency, while I kind of felt that VOY would start with a plot and then figure out how to get the characters to fit that plot. That would often result in characters behaving fairly inconsistently. I didn't even finish the series until 2018 (though seasons six and seven were when I was in college, so it might have been just from watching less TV at the time). That said, I think the bright colors, lighter tone, fast action, and post-Kes Neelix are things that would make the show attractive to kids as a first Trek, assuming they start with Trek before Prodigy comes out. Speaking of which, I wonder if Prodigy will do for Janeway (the hologram), what Picard did for Seven of Nine.

  • @MovieMagic515
    @MovieMagic515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love DS9 the most because i think it's so deep and really conveys why we at times need to fight no matter if we do or don't want too. We need to fight for the utopian times of TNG. Such a layered and unique show. However Enterprise is my second favourite. It does bother me than Jolene Blalock as T'Pol was sexualised and a lot of the main crew however the chemistry between those actors is fantastic. T'Pol and Trip are a beautiful relationship when they don't focus on neuropressure and Phlox's infectious, enthusiastic nature is simply inspiring. People often overlook the first 2 Seasons however there are some great episodes and it really pulled itself together in the later Seasons. Seasons 1 and 2 wouldn't be almost as good without such great actors. I love T'Pol's snark game, Archer feels similar to Kirk but much fairer and more caring. Travis had potential being a space 'boomer' as a younger man however he was just left behind essentially. Anthony Montgomery is happy to have been on Star Trek despite that which is wonderful. You know Trip and Travis were going to be good friends until it was changed to Trip and Reed.

  • @Seanginty1
    @Seanginty1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta respect the Enterprise love. I feel the same about that show. The first two seasons had some issues, but I really loved the characters. Loses points for making me hate Riker. Damn stupid finale going and messing everything up.
    TNG was my generation's Star Trek show, so I have soft spot there, but you're right about the under-developed characters. Then again, they did have Barclay, one of my all time favourites.
    I would probably have ranked DS9 above Enterprise because it had the fantastic characters, but also a higher rate of top tier stories.
    On a different subject- I bet you learned about bunting from "Take Me Out to the Holosuite". One of the few sports terms I know myself.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The finale of ENT is Terra Firma.
      We just don't talk about... THAT episode 🤢🤢🤢

    • @Seanginty1
      @Seanginty1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Donnagata1409 I think the perfect ending would have been Sam Becket leaping out of Capt Archer in the last shot.

  • @dunaruiditos7620
    @dunaruiditos7620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video might make me watch Enterprise finally, the only one I haven't seen more than a few episodes!! Also yeah DS9 is the best one that's it.. and excited for next Friday's video 💝💝

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The first season is kinda rough around the edges, and most of the second season is, honestly, boring (except Minefield and Dead Stop). But Season 3 (after a rocky ep or two) is simply amazing! A season long arc with dire and lasting consequences! Season 4 is made up of several mini-arcs, 2 or 3 episodes long and almost all of them are frankly some of the best Star Trek out there!
      So yeah, Enterprise is tricky to get into, but if you persevere it can be really rewarding!

  • @marcusfridh8489
    @marcusfridh8489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have seen a few episodes of the og , and the tng, but the only series that hooked me was voyager. there was a canadian show in the mid 90`s that you could call star trek junior, called space cases, wich was really underrated too i think.

  • @renchouinard9760
    @renchouinard9760 ปีที่แล้ว

    i started watching star trek with TNG with my mom and sister when i still lived with them, it has a very special place in my heart for making me fall in love with the Star Trek universe, but as ive been making my way through all the other shows, i would say that DS9 is my favourite, then Enterprise, Lower Decks, Discovery, TNG, Shorts, TOS, and then TAS (i havent watched Voyager or Picard, yet). But every Star Trek series has a special place in my heart and there are episodes and characters in every series that make me love them.

  • @dianamerchant1026
    @dianamerchant1026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a third generation Trekkie. My grandfather started taping episodes back in the 80s with his first vcr. I watched all the original episodes at their house. My dad and mom both loved the show separately. Lol my husband cosplays a bajoran. I went to see every movie with my dad since I was born in 1980. I can’t pick up a favorite but each series has special meaning to me. My mother died before Voyager came out but she would have lost it at captain Janeway. I finally finished DS9 with my husband after having never finished it by myself. Pretty much put any episode of any show on and I’ll be a happy girl. Ty for the list Jessie.

  • @lorelei_lee
    @lorelei_lee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't gotten around to watch Lower Decks yet, but I'll sign your list right away! Deep Space Nine is my favorite series anyway, but Enterprise has a special place in my heart too - it was the first series I saw in English!

  • @rabebaer9536
    @rabebaer9536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went in expecting to hate Lower Decks, coming out simply loving it. 😊

  • @BollocksUtwat
    @BollocksUtwat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The irony is that in 2021 baseball bunting is the courageous unorthodox play while the home run is the dominant scoring play. You see a bunt its pretty exciting because it's so rare now.

  • @isra8397
    @isra8397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My personal list, from last to first (The ones I have watched, they are not all accessible where I live):
    6. Original Series
    5. Next Generation
    4. Enterprise
    3. Discovery
    2. Voyager
    1. Deep Space Nice
    Side note: Love your hair so much!

  • @steelpookie7597
    @steelpookie7597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video, glad I found your channel. Love your Star Trek lists and just found you do HOTD. Anyway, I agreed with your list right up and until DS9 being listed in the 3 spot. But it helped that you had Enterprise #1 which is my #2 and I’ve never heard of anyone ranking it that high. And to be fair I haven’t seen Lower Decks but you may make me try it. You always have something positive to say about it. Although I don’t see it taking down DS9 which is #6 on my list for all shows ever! No small list. Love that series. It somehow made Wolf relevant (to a degree) something TNG should have done, gave us, routinely I might add, quality Ferengi characters & stories and the best well written, thought out & long lasting villain in all of Trek universe in Gil Dukat. Thanks again & hopefully I’ll come across an all time best characters list.

  • @vivin.8140
    @vivin.8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited for your video on "the nature of work"! Also yay for ranking all the star trek shows!
    As a teen I watched several episodes of ds9, voyager and tng on TV but now because of your channel I really want to watch all of star trek! I started with watching TOS (nearly finished the first season as of rn), I hope that was a good choice lol