Appalachian Outlaw Kinnie Wagner
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- Appalachian Outlaw Kinnie Wagner (Kenny Wagner) as told by The Appalachian Storyteller
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Wow! What an incredible story! Kinnie got a raw deal in life but yet he has a powerful story that deserves to be told and remembered. R.I.P Kinnie
Thank you Joy !
They ought to make a series or a movie about this guy. What an incredible story
Let's not forget there are 2 sides to every story. A life sentence wasn't a life sentence back then but he never got parole for a reason. Every guilty man in prison swears he is innocent.
I know ppl who knew him and I live where he ran...it's a wild story.he was a dead aim with any gun..
Ya think this is true? Sucker
Not a hero. Not an outlaw. He was always between a rock and a hard place. He was moral but defended himself.
agreed
😢Kenny was a victim of, on his part, uncontrollable circumstances. A good youngin' made to look bad by evil doers😢 Rest in peace Kinnie, rest in peace in knowing you did your best😢
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Whatever became of that evil stepmother? It's too bad his Pa married her, Kinnie's life would've turned out much different. A good man at heart, he was.
Thanks for another fine story JD!
I don’t know what happened to her
i heard this story as a child from neighbors and considered it a local wives tale until i met an much older man who was an acquaintance of Kinnie and he told it while sitting on his front porch swing , flyswatter in hand. Though it still seemed a bit sensational , I still found information in the Kingsport Public Library and became convinced of the veracity of the tale. I for a short time lived along Big Moccasin Creek, outsdie Gate City, and the locals all knew this story by heart.
Thank you JD, its a great story that illustrates the struggles of our families not too distantly removed in time..
I know exactly where Big Moccasin Creek is! I almost mentioned it in the story, but instead used the nearby creek "Copper Creek"
wow! Thats so cool, i am a bit envious. I had never heard of this story and its a wild ride!
Just shows how corrupt criminal systems are too this day
Good morning and happy Saturday. Good time for a story.
Hope you enjoy!
@@TheAppalachianStorytellerI enjoyed very much! My Mamaw was a storyteller and I would sit at her feet on a cool linoleum floor as she shared the many stories she carried with her from the mountains of the Blue Ridge to the "flat lands" of the foothills. Thank you for stirring up wonderful warm memories of the best times of my life.
Whatever he was for real - not for me to say - but Kinnie sure got a raw deal after his mom died, and his stepmom had a lot to do with it. He could also have led a remarkable life if he'd been able to grow where he was planted, among family and friends.
Agreed, I thought it was fitting that after his entire life, he was laid down to rest next to his mom.
You could say that about most of us to a greater or lesser degree.
He was A Man That LIVED WITHIN THE LAW That Was FORCED BY THE CROOKED JUSTICE SYSTEM TO BECOME A MAN OF OUT LAW!!!
This was a Great Story! Thank you so much for Sharing!
Well said Charlene!
American Living In A Currupt Systym Still The Same He Is A pioneer Of Survival Indeed Long Live All Mountain Folks Higher Power Country🤟👑❤️🔥💪🇺🇸
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Kinny was definitely a man out of his time. He was born into self sufficiency, honor and need, but the world changed around him, and he did what he did best: survive. Thanks again for a wonderful story, JD
well said my friend, glad you enjoyed it, enjoy your weekend!
Hi JD! Kinnie’s misfortunes started with his stepmother who was mean to the core. No child asks to be born or to lose a loving mother so young. How can you be mean or abusive to any child.
R.I.P. Kinnie Wagner
Agreed Willow, have a beautiful Saturday! Hope to see you tomorrow on my other channel for a brand new story
I thought it was going to end so much worse! Isn’t it amazing what kids go through without a mother’s love? Wonderfully told story, as always. ❤
The music in the intro was great!!!
Thank you! Yes childhood can shape a person’s whole life
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - I was at least 30 b4 I realized how badly I'd hurt my own mother when she often repeated her dire concerns about the half wild horses I'd always preferred. For some reason horses nobody else could begin to handle would snuggle up to me like I was *their* mom or something. They still do; but anyway, I got cross with Mom one time and popped off at her: "Well, at least you know if I die on a horse, I'll die happy!" And I was just stupid enough to think that should've comforted her. ......... Later if my own son had done such a thing, I might've killed him myself to get the suspense over. I sure would've turned the air blue. But thank God, he got whatever I had, and I always knew he was safe.
One time driving past a military base when 'Nam was a thing, I saw a gorgeous Dobie running loose on the hwy median; several men in civvies were trying to corral him but he made it clear he was ready to eat them instead. So what did my brilliant self do? I pulled over and tempted him with bologna into the front seat of MY car and drove off.
Having trained dogs as well as horses, I realized pretty quick that Swee'Pea had been trained for jungle patrol. When the guys who'd been trying to retrieve him tracked me down out in the boonies within a week, w/o a sound Swee'Pea raced toward the open window on the driver's side of the truck, leaped, and almost got to bite the guy's head off. At which point the guy turned his truck around and left, never to return. Yes, Virginia, I knew it was illegal for a civilian to keep such a dog, especially as a 'rescue'. I always figured the military guys just wanted to maintain some cock-and-bull cover story about how they'd let my canine darling escape in the first place.
But to this day at 78, the personal action I'd most like to take back would be what I said to my mom, bc I realized long ago how it must've made her feel. I don't see how alleged adults can treat kids like Kinnie was treated. Hottest corner of hell ought to be reserved for child abusers of any sort.
@@frostyfrances4700 my son was 40 this past August. He and my daughter(and my grandchildren) are the most important people in my life (+ my best friend of 40+ years). He was a handful growing up, but he was always honest with me. He has turned out to be a wonderful son, husband and father, and proved MANY people who didn’t give him a chance, very WRONG!! His sister was a blonde haired, blue-eyed cheerleader, the darling of her class. Mama’s know. They are both a blessing beyond measure to me. I thank God I had the opportunity to help shape them into the people they are today. Our society needs more good mamas raising good babies. Love your mamas. Mamas, love your babies.
me too! The music was sweet!
And a father's inattention and neglect.
Wowwww, what a story!! Poor Kinnie got the short end of the stick his whole danged life 🥺
For me personally, I can't deny that he was an Appalachian Hero in many ways. Everyone in his life really seemed to let him down at every opportunity. I'd like to think that good ol'Kinnie is in the Great Beyond, training all the good boys and all the good girls who are up there, waiting for their humans to join them. This was a really wonderful story, JD, thank you for sharing the life of Kinnie Wagner. Life can be so unfair to some people, and for him, it was exactly so 💔
Thanks Brother! You know, I always do my best to tell these stories thru the eyes of those who lived them, but I always see a little bit of myself in them and can really relate his life... not all the killing... but the struggle.
You can bet at 78 I've had to see plenty of 4-footed friends called back to their true Owner; but yes, it comforts me to think they're in good hands. Sometimes I wonder if our innate gifts here on earth transfer to the next plane of existence. After all, I see this life as humanity's cocoon stage. One night I even had a vision (?) of some sort - like a brief snapshot - of that famous painting of Christ leading the sheep, and my beloved Swee'Pea was there at his side. I still grieve the loss of that dog, but the mental image of where he hopefully is meanwhile does give a great deal of comfort.
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@@frostyfrances4700 my dogs are family. I know you know. And i definitely respect and feel your experience. I miss my babies. True loyalty from man's best friends.
@@allend5399 - Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could understand them better then than now? One of my sweet chows was a talker. Every night when I'd announce bedtime, she'd look at me and bark in the most variable way tone and volume and pace. I always thought she might be giving me her Daily Report. I had to keep the landline phone out of her reach bc she'd knock the receiver off the hook and bark into it. I'm sure she *wanted* to talk. Thank goodness she never learned how to dial her ancestors in China!
I think he was defending himself! What a story, if his mother had lived his life would have taken a different path.
I believe your right
EXACTLY!!!
Kinnie had nothing but hard times when his mother passed. With his abilities and charismatic personality, he could have excelled in many occupations. But we can never see the curve balls thrown at us in the game of life. It seemed Kinnie was always defending himself from determined death. So my hat goes off for Kinnie. Rest in peace Kinnie.
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Great story. Kinnie Wagner was a disposable citizen by some people of authority's ideas much like everyday Americans today. It never ceases to amaze me how greed has destroyed many good people and Kinnie suffered at the hands of greedy Godless people. .
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I think he was a little bit of both... almost a victim of circumstance caused by a crooked sheriff.
Great story! Thanks JD ✌️😎
Thank you Kathy !
Ole Kenny sounds like a normal guy from the mountains to me.. that got shoved into bad situations.. great story!
Agreed
Great story!! If this guy hadnt had such bad luck he wouldn't have any luck at all! Wow!
Agreed!
He was given a bad hand when his mom died and his dad married a jezebel. It started early. He's a true outlaw hero. One of my favorite stories from you. Ty.
Carolina truck driver.
Thanks Eric! I think ive asked you this before, do you listen to these stories while driving, just curious. Hopefully I see your answer, TH-cams comment notifications make it were I don't see hundreds of replies without spending hours searching for them
Lol. Yes most the time. Usually on weekends I wait till I'm on the road but had to listen to this one at home. God bless Friend great video
that's cool man, if I send you a sticker will you put it on your truck? its only a couple inches, if so, email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com with your address, ill send you a free one@@erichansen7642
Kennie's life got off to an unfortunate start when his loving mother died. But what he did thereafter presents us with an important life lesson. When you put yourself in situations where you're likely to find trouble, you usually will. Had he not worked for the moonshining sheriff or got into that card game with the four rowdy brothers, things may have turned out differently. Just trying to survive can cause us to make unwise decisions sometimes, but still, life is always about choices. Thanks for another great story JD. You are the best at what you do.
Good valid points Summer !
We all make mistakes in life, sometimes bad choices. Kinney was definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time.
He definitely got a raw deal. But you could say he was always trying to make the best of a bad situation. What a great story. Thanks, JD. Enjoyed the music, too.
I worked hard on the music!
I appreciate the different musical genres that you weaved through the story
Thanks man, I tried to put some delta and Texas blues in it to help capture his story @@michaelstusiak5902
Can't go wrong with the Blues!!
Amazing life! Hard to believe I shared this sod for eight years with him.
Indeed, he had an amazing life
I could watch nothing else but these ,,, reckon bout the most enjoyment ah ever had. Maybe one day these might be able to be watched on tv.
Thanks Randy! Id love to get picked up by @netflix or @hulu! Til then, you can watch these on tv if you have TH-cam on your television.
They wouldn't have to embellish the truth at all for it to be a great movie.
🎉Happy New Year!🎉 Rainy cold morning and gonna rain all day! Bring on the stories!!😅 My Grandparents were sharecroppers and thankful they passed onto me, be a hard worker and thankful, no matter how little or abundant, for all you have. Be diligent in the Lords word and practice daily....FORGIVENESS❤
Amen
Oh my stars! That’s the most amazing story I’ve ever heard! I think poor Kinnie was a survivor after his mom died, then the circus made him a sharpshooter and then Kinnie unfortunately went a little “sideways” and got in trouble with the law. But he sure was a smart man!! JD you just keep getting better and better with your storytelling!! Blessings always! ❤️✝️😊
Thank you so much Betty, I appreciate you so much!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Awww you’re very welcome! I appreciate you & all you do! What’s your book about? And how do I get one? ❤️✝️😊
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Awww you’re very welcome! I appreciate you & all you do! What’s your book about? And how do I get one? ❤️✝️😊
He didn't get in trouble he got framed did you not listen to the story you call getting framed getting in trouble
❤❤❤❤ Love how you included the wonderful plan of salvation into this story it was perfect. Yep story too. ❤❤❤❤
You’ll find that in several of my stories I always have a backdrop of faith
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I live in Clinchport VA. My wife and I can trace our family back to the civil war from here around Gate City. I grew up hearing stories of how my Great grandparents hid Kinnie in what is now Duffield VA. My dad heard the stories first hand from his grandparents about Kinnie. Everyone in this area said he was the nicest man you would ever meet and his shooting was no exaggeration. They said the law done him wrong. Seeing the bounty he had on his head. It's amazing no one turned him in because that would have been a fortune in those days. Just shows how us mountain folk want to help each other and take care of our own.
Thank for sharing that!
Thank you for your videos. I love history especially Appalachian history my grandparents are all gone and my mom is too. I don't have their stories anymore. Would love to sit on the porch and talk with them just once more.Your videos remind me of them and how they grew up . Thank you and keep them coming!
We love your videos my grandparents an mom are gone to be with the Lord so I don't have their stories anymore. I would love to sit on the porch with them just once more. Your videos give me the ability to show my kids how my grandparents an mom grew up. Thanks and keep them coming!
Hero or outlaw doesn't matter. What he was for sure he was A Truly Free Man.
Well, said my friend
At work with time to kill, thank you for this gem!
Thanks for taking me to work with ya
Great story .loved his family and his dogs
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❤❤ wonderfully told for Kennie xx
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He sure was a good looking young man. He had a lot of bad luck. Things may have gone a lot different for him, if his mother had not died when he was so young. I don't understand why his father allowed his step-mother to beat and run him off. This was another new story to me. Thank you for writing and telling this story.
Thank you, this was a lot of work but a labor of love to tell his story
I’m from Pikeville, Ky so Gate City is just an hour and a half away from me. Love this story! Would make a great movie
Yup ❤️
Life has it's own plans for us
Sometimes for the better
Sometimes for the worse
It's never fair and always hard
One misstep is all it takes or being associated with the wrong person
well said Stone!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller experience luckily I learned sooner than later
I had many praying for me
Only the grace of God protected me from myself
Just a good man who was abused as a kid and all through his life and did what he had to do to survive. Too many bad breaks. He had a soft heart but no chance to live a normal, honest life. RIP.
RIP Kinnie!
My Dad was a guard at Parchman and was there with Kinny in the dog pen when he died. My Dad said he was a quite well liked guy.
You know my dad was a parchmen guard too back in the mid 1970s
He was a pure gentleman.
As long as you didn’t pull a gun on him
What was he? He was something else, that's what he was!
If the situations really did play out as was reported it does seem he acted in self defense. But the true blame beyond Kenny for his life of crime was his "father". He put a woman in his bed and in his home before his son and daughter. They deserved better! Based on the way they were being raised before the evil stepmother arrived Kenny could have done great things due to being raised right with the Bible right there. The world will never know.
Thank you JD!
I completely agree, and yes, the world will never know
What an amazing story!! I believe I would have really liked Kinnie !!
I would have loved to sat down and just listened to him tell stories of his adventures
Awesome Story Kinni was a combo of all components TY
Thanks so much!
by far one of the best stories, a Forrest Gump kind of life,
He lived life on the edge from start to finish
Mean old step parents just burn my britches.
He was not Outlaw nor hero. He was just a man trying to get by who finally had to do what he had to do for his life and freedom. Don't we all fight for our freedom every day in our own way?
"don't we all fight for our freedom every day in our own way" what a powerful sentence. I may use that in an upcoming story
I'm a N.C. boy myself and love the stories of the mountains. Your video had me hooked from the start. Great job sir and look forward to hearing many more. Thanks
Thanks John!
Awesome story.
Thank you!
Im here! Good to hear you again..😊 Happy New Year JD..
God bless you and yourn..
Happy New Year!
I'm surprised this man's story hasn't been made into a movie.....
me too..
Free men born after the days of freedom all-too-often become outlaws in the new regime and new society. No doubt that is why schools don’t teach kids so much history anymore. No doubt it is an attempt to limit the number of freedom-lovers they’ll have to be at odds with. Alas, nothing can just kill that wild spirit all-together. Great story!
I often wonder at the fortunes of my family not to have ended up outlaws given all the parallels I see between your stories of these types of fellas’ upbringing and the upbringing of my father, mother, uncles, aunts, and grandparents. I mean, they almost all got into heaps of trouble through their teen/young adult lives but, luckily, they all remained free, able to work, reproduce, and provide loads of colorful stories and life lessons for their families.
Well said my friend!
Play with the Bull.....you get the Horn! Love the story J.D.!
Thanks Chris!
I’m from East Tn and I heard of Kinny all my youth. Thanks for filling in the details.
Thank you Cathy
I wanted to thank you for your videos. I live in Knox County TN near Kodak. These videos remind me of people I know or have known growing up. If you haven't heard of him check out Clarence Raby. It's a cool story of a mountain outlaw and how the people around him protected him
Thanks for this suggestion, I added it to my research folder. If you have any details such as rough estimates of dates of his life, where he lived, or any links, please email them to me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com since if you reply here chances are it will get lost in the 1000s of comments I don't ever see. Thanks so much! JD
Oh... I enjoyed that!
❤THANK YOU❤
Thank you Rebekah ❤️
Thanks for bringing the stories that need to be told. I'm sure this happens to so many kids that lose one or both parents. This young man definitely got raw deals wherever he went. Stay safe and GOD bless
well said Alice!
He grew up right down the road from where I'm living right now. It's still real country out here
im glad to hear its still real country
Goodmorning JD, raining in my neck of the woods this morning and so no work for me today. I decided to spend my morning with a cup of Joe and settle down to a good story. Kenny was born in a tumultuous time and it seems to me he did what everyone else did and made the best of his talents. Sometimes we are all put in situations where we would rather not be. Great story. I've missed Saturday morning stories and contemplation.Have great weekend brother. Enjoyed.
Thanks James, good to see you here this morning!
Wonderful story about Kennie. A new outlaw hero!
im glad you enjoyed it Janelle!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller we’re iced in so I’m going to catch up on the last couple. They’re always imagination grabbing. Thank you for sharing them.
Great story JD. He got it stuck to him and made some bad choices but he came through it.
yes sir, quite a life he lived!
Best Part of the Week, a New Story!👏💯
Thank you Victoria ❤️
I live and grew up close to where Kinnie was born and grew up. I think he was a good man who was put into bad situations where he had to do what anyone would to survive. He is a Scott County legend.
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Legend , a man of a time long gone, now we have ???
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I think he was somewhere in between. Great story as usual!!
Thanks so much!
Brother, you are the real deal. Thanks for the stories.
preciate you brother!
Sounds like a good partner for Billy Dean Anderson. Amazing story...
for my money... give me Billy Dean, Kinnie Wagner and Otto Wood, they could take on the world!
Sounds like that Blake Shelton song was partly based on Kinnie. Thanks again J.D. for a truly great story. If it were up to me, you would have 5 gold play buttons by now.
I think you are right about the Blake song, and wow what a compliment! Thank you so much, I work hard on these videos to be as entertaining as possible all the while, sneaking in historical facts where by the end, you learned a part of history without even knowing you were being taught!
He sure was an inspiration to me at least, a rebellious man born with a peculiar destiny to become the adventure of rare quality. I love stories and people like this, like him and others like that.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
What an amazing story
Thank you!
Wonderful story, thanks so much
Glad you enjoyed it Eric!
Another great story!
Thank you!
My o my kinnie wasn’t lucky and was super lucky thnx for super story J.D.
Thank you 😊
JD i look forward to these stories, great job. stay save brother,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Appreciate you brother
Awesome story!
Thank you Karen! Have a blessed day!
This would make a great movie or miniseries! Far more entertaining than any Billy the Kid stories!
Thanks so much!
There ain't nothing like walking up and hearing a story of the good ol days.
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"Fer Me, There was no sense stickin around to see how that was going to turn out !"... GREAT dialog!
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Sounds like in between. He caught a tough break young and had to deal with life as best as he could.
Agreed
Great story but more importantly the music is outstanding
Heck yeah!
Oh yeah, it's a killer. JD! Your stories are the perfect way to start a cool, rainy Saturday morning, friend! I can't wail till the next one!
Thanks so much Scott! Enjoy your Saturday brother
Happy Saturday! I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.
Thank you Catherine!
Another fine story JD. Can't wait for the next one.😊
Thank you Sharon!
Some where in between he was a hell of a man. Great story at 5 a.m.
Loved it. Stay safe out there JD 🙏
Thanks big iron! I’d have loved to just sat down and listened to Kinnie tell stories of his life
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Sounds like they would have been exciting. ✌
Great story and music ❤
Thank you Beth ❤️
He was EVERYTHING in between.
agreed Lisa
This is wild, Im from Texarkana! Still live there today! Great story as always!! Thank you for all your hard work!! Continued blessings for 2024!!
Thank you Laura! Im happy I finally got around to a story that has connection to your neck of the woods!
My friend, that tops all of your stories. Just awesome. Thanks again!!!
Thank you so much- I worked really hard on this
Absolutely love settin a spell with you and tales, and the music is awesome. ❤🇨🇦
Thank yo use much Marion! And thanks for commenting on the music!
I just love listening to your stories..you have the best voice!!
Thank you ❤️
Good Morning JD. Thank you for creating this wonderful content for all of us to enjoy. I am looking forward to reading your book and I sincerely hope that you will narrate it because nobody tells a story quite like you . I never get tired of hearing your voice.
Thank you ❤️ I may do an audiobook in the future- stay tuned !
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller I sure will and thank you for replying to me.
Good morning JD and everyone else great story i would like to see more of your stories JD if possible buddy. Be safe everyone and GOD BLESS your day Amen 🙏
Thank you Randle!
The guy couldn’t get a break. No way I’d surrendered to that woman sheriff. I’d just ran. He was a victim of bad circumstances and corrupt law enforcement. Great story!
Thanks Shadow!
Great recreation of Kinnie’s life story. I put him down as a definite outlaw. Pushed into being one though. That first sheriff did him wrong accusing him of stealing that pocket watch just to cover his own ass. He was on the run for sure but let circumstances get in his way of living a ‘good’ life. Should have gone further West instead of into Mexico. Boy did the ladies fall for him and that image of a bad boy, not to mention a handsome one. I think if his mother had lived his life definitely would have turned out different. It was hilarious about him training the hunting dogs and shocking the prison gave him a machine gun! Wow. And to put him back in that same circumstance after returning to prison. Ha! As always JD you are an amazing story teller! I love your delivery. The music wasn’t that bad either. I love your heartfelt stories of the past. It feels like I’m on th he sidelines watching as it plays out. Thank you! I sure do hope the channel grows exponentially huge in the new year. You deserve that.👏
Thank you Karen! Wow, you said a lot to unpack. I believe it would have been different for sure, if his mother had lived, and how ironic was it that at the end of his life, he was laid to rest right beside his mom.
I was telling my 86yo Uncle that lives in Kingsport about this story, he knew all about it. Said he was in grade school when this happened. His wife and mother-in-law went to Kinnie's funeral. Enjoy your stories.
Wow!
This was a good one! Thanks JD!
Thank you Tina!
Another great story JD. Always look forward to hearing and seeing your work. Be safe brother.
Thanks Scott, be safe out there brother
Fine, Fine story! Keep up the great work 😊
Thanks so much!
I think Kinnie was cheated out of a wholesome and rich life
me too, imagine what he could have been
Kenny was no outlaw, what he was, was a survivor! Yes, if born in the era of Daniel Boon, Davey Crockett, Wyatt Earp, Kenny Wagner would have been in that group of heroes, of that I have no doubt! Another great story!!
I believe you are right!
Another great one. Thank you for all your digging to bring us these stories.
This one took some digging- on TH-cam it was folks just telling the same ol story with limited facts, missed with a healthy dose of falsehoods- I wanted to set the record straight for Kinnie
Absolutely wonderful story! Your story telling keeps me so enthralled and on the edge of my seat!
Thanks so much Janet! Im glad you enjoyed this true tale
This story is amazing!
thank you!
You my Friend are the best...Loved that story.
Thanks so much Steve!