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In PKMR, first, ROKN does not use a ceros200 Ku-Band Radar. Instead, using a SAQ-540K EOTS as a Fire Control sesor for Wia made 76mm naval gun. Second, they does not use SPS-540k which is used on LST-2, ATH-81, PKX-A, and KDX-3 BatchII. Instead, ROKN uses SPS-560K, which is modified model, for smaller Ship like PKMR.(Cause there is much more ROLL and Pitch on PKMR than PKG-A, it is hard to use on PKMR)
As a radar operator, I agree with the assessment. We tend to look down on unmanned vehicles as nothing more than targets (cause we train shooting at them all the time). A manned vessel always has the weight of having people inside to project the presence of power.
Former ROKN LT here. My classmate was one of the ship designers back in 2010. PKM and PKMR is a unique design due to operational environment in border between ROK and NK. They are designed as a first line of defense and as many of ROKN ship design they are heavily armed. Our admirals wants heavy weaponry and PKMR's designed changed dramatically from its beginning....
Have you seen the robot dogs the Chinese are now mass manufacturing? The same one that was fitted with a rifle as a proof-of-concept demonstration? 1-2 years MAX before they can and maybe another year after that before they are. Of course that's assuming there aren't more pressing concerns such as recovery and reconstruction efforts after a nuclear third world war.
God damn right about that. Robots is what happens when chicken shit geeks get into the defense business. They want to wage defense like they play video games.
Since South Korea is fast becoming a major arms exporter, I can see countries like Ukraine, Romania, Georgia, or Kazakhstan being interested in something like this
An interesting boat - if they could replace a few of those rockets with anti air missles (all in the same launcher), would be a better design and make enemy air assets a bit more cautious.
there is no need for Anti Air missiles since, any enemy aircraft approaching the patrol boats which are patrolling near the coast, would be engaged by LAND based fighters. I feel a CIWS could be added for dual purpose use as a "small anti air/anti missile" defence and also used against small fast boats.
@@anormalkorean5048 either above the bridge or mid ship, but if a 20mm CIWS needs a lot of deck space or need to "pentrate the deck" to be mounted.. maybe something Rafael Typhoon Mk 30c Stabilised Naval Gun System, which allow 200 ready to fire 30mm rounds, or smaller version of it like the Mini Typhoon which can be fitted with 12.7mm machine gun and is only 170 Kg and dun need to pentrate the deck of the ship meaning just place it on somewhere without drilling a hole through deck. its certainly more accurate than a manned 30mm cannon, since its stablised and compentate for the rolling of the seas, and in cold winters, the gunner need not expose himself to the cold weather or enemy fire, and it comes with senors, that can make firing at night easier. Or i would add a small sized (around the size of 1m length), drone, just arm it with a small 7.62mm, it can be used to inspect suspicious "fishing boats" before sneding a boarding party. the drone works like a mini helicopter, can be used to spot targets for the rockets and 76mm main gun also.
@@leekyungmin-t6u They could use lightweight anti-ship missiles like the Sea Skua which South Korea already operates. The Kuwaitis use them in their FACs so its a very feasible concept. It also looks like the 130mm guided rockets in their current design can attack ships up to around the same maximum range of the Sea Skua. The question here is if the rockets can penetrate air defenses as well as cruise missiles.
So essentially the same concept as the Torpedo Boat Destroyer concept during the world wars. A boat specifically designed to counter a specific threat.
Hello Haba. I know what you mean. But I think it was a basic design choice. Keep the vessel as lean and mean as you can and leave air defense to other assets. I think this is reasonable. The basic purpose is against surface threats.
Hoping that the Philippine Navy will aquire this kind of ships to compensate the aging fleet of patrol boats of the PN. With the help of Philippine lawmakers it is possible to aquire these ships. For every major islands of the philippines and has 2 of these ships stationed in the port it can give the appropriate defense and security againts all illegal activities in the philippine seas.
Yeah, especially since it has enough weaponry to intercept china coast guard ships , and also could be our fast and quick deployment in WPS, after the recent news
설명이 상당히 객관적이시네요, 무인순찰선의 필요를 모르는 게 아니라서 수상용과 수중용 드론도 이미 상당히 개발되었습니다. 더구나 무인입출항 실증을 상선으로 행했기 때문에 시각이 없는 것도 기술이 없는 것도 아닙니다. Your explanation is quite objective, it's not that you don't know the need for unmanned patrol boats, so water and underwater drones have already been developed considerably. Moreover, it is not that there is no vision or lack of technology because the demonstration of unmanned entry and exit was conducted as a merchant ship.
Unmanned surface vessels can't do damage control, can't do VBSS, can't react quickly to unexpected situations, have terrible situational awareness, can't do SAR missions. They are a terrible alternative to manned patrol craft. This coming from my 21 years in the US Navy.
Thank you for the interesting topic and good presentation of the information! Does anybody know something about the ship at 10:15 ? The one with the helicopter pad and the helicopter at the stern?
This is an old information. Korean Navy is drastically different and very modernized with both stealthy and unmanned ships and boats as well as submarines. Go check Hanhwa Ocean or Hyndai.
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In PKMR, first, ROKN does not use a ceros200 Ku-Band Radar. Instead, using a SAQ-540K EOTS as a Fire Control sensor for Wia made 76mm naval gun. Second, they does not use SPS-540k which is used on LST-2, ATH-81, PKX-A, and KDX-3 BatchII. Instead, ROKN uses SPS-560K, which is modified model, for smaller Ship like PKMR.(Cause there is much more ROLL and Pitch on PKMR than PKG-A, it is hard to use on PKMR)
While it is a risk to the sailors onboard it can keep the moral ground if fired upon. After all if a NK vessel fires at a unmanned vessel and get returned fire against their manned vessels which causes casualties, NK will be able to claim they lost sailors and SK did not. Also having unmanned vehicles will always make them more likely to be used than a manned option.
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its not just about the 20 crew, these patrol boats tend NOT to have kitchens and they have a Small "Pantry" with a microwave and toaster, to make quick meals like Instant Ramen and such, Making the ship unmanned will eliminate the need for things like Crew sleeping quarters, toilets, pantry and any weight used for food.. These weight can be changed to make the fuel larger for longer patrol missions.
No need for kitchen as this vessel is intended to do missions within few hours. There are a lot of kind of on-see-bases near the NLL (also around SK littoral coast). Also, this vessel is intended to do a lot of paramilitary missions so on-board personnel is necessary.
I hope our shipyards in Mariveles, Cavite and Cebu get enlarged, modernized and get to build small fast Frigates and Corvwttes and effective and eficient fishing boats. Can't imagine the employment gains, economic boost and prestige Filipinos get. Repairs can be done locally cheaper and faster. Our fishermen can make a decent living, not relying on Left over catches by more powerfull boats.
Who thinks operators left alone to decide to shoot some missiles? Why would anybody sacrifice anything? Why manned vehicle are better preventing aggressors bold behaviour? Manned vehicles are indeed needed but not for these reasons. Eventually they will host control stationa of unmanned ones located in safety a little back.
I wonder how much a demilitarized one would cost? An also how much it'd cost to equip a 40mm bofors, a quad 20mm, and some dual .50 mounts? I mean I heard Chile was starting to issue letters of Marque again to combat illegal fishing by Chinese fishing fleets. So. . . .*shrugs* I mean depending on the bounty their offering one of these could be a sound investment. Lol
The secondary weapon is too weak need to replace by 30 mm M230 chain guns, adding the manpad anti tank missile would be better , incase of the ship damage lost power !
Too bad you use metric measurements for everything, lots of channels use both. When you say a Kilometer it's not as if people in the USA have ever used them. It would be one thing if it was a 2 to 1 measurement or something similar, but it's not.
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Your text is very exact and well thought.
Your views are also quite correct.
Excellent video.
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In PKMR, first, ROKN does not use a ceros200 Ku-Band Radar. Instead, using a SAQ-540K EOTS as a Fire Control sesor for Wia made 76mm naval gun.
Second, they does not use SPS-540k which is used on LST-2, ATH-81, PKX-A, and KDX-3 BatchII. Instead, ROKN uses SPS-560K, which is modified model, for smaller Ship like PKMR.(Cause there is much more ROLL and Pitch on PKMR than PKG-A, it is hard to use on PKMR)
And ROKN does not use CEROS200, they use SPG-540K Ku-Band fire control radar
As a radar operator, I agree with the assessment. We tend to look down on unmanned vehicles as nothing more than targets (cause we train shooting at them all the time). A manned vessel always has the weight of having people inside to project the presence of power.
Unmanned surface vessels cannot:
1. Plug holes
2. Repair pipes
3. Rewire wires
4. Wipe lenses
5. Fend off boarders.
unmanned also cannot pull people out of the water. using manned vessels around your own waters provide another search and rescue platform.
Disable the engine and you captured one. The tech inside is the REAL PRIZE.
cannot change filters, replace hoses, reboot electronics.
Former ROKN LT here.
My classmate was one of the ship designers back in 2010.
PKM and PKMR is a unique design due to operational environment in border between ROK and NK.
They are designed as a first line of defense and as many of ROKN ship design they are heavily armed. Our admirals wants heavy weaponry and PKMR's designed changed dramatically from its beginning....
Robots can't board and inspect a suspicious fishing boat.
Just a matter of time. Greetings from T-800. 😉
Have you seen the robot dogs the Chinese are now mass manufacturing? The same one that was fitted with a rifle as a proof-of-concept demonstration? 1-2 years MAX before they can and maybe another year after that before they are. Of course that's assuming there aren't more pressing concerns such as recovery and reconstruction efforts after a nuclear third world war.
In the year 2000 robots are plentiful doing all the work.
Predictions, predictions. 🤷😉
God damn right about that. Robots is what happens when chicken shit geeks get into the defense business. They want to wage defense like they play video games.
@@Mthammere2010 - Except they are doing some rather remarkable things in Ukraine. They just can't do some of the things PK's do as a matter of course.
Since South Korea is fast becoming a major arms exporter, I can see countries like Ukraine, Romania, Georgia, or Kazakhstan being interested in something like this
Poland already have numbers of tanks , MLRS and Fighterjet in which bought from South Korea or SOKOR
Israel are also designing smaller patrol boat just South Korea or SOKOR did
@@robertosovietunion7567 the fuck is SOKOR its ROKN, ROKA, ROKAF, ROK not SOKOR tf even is that
@@anormalkorean5048 Some people do shorten South Korea to SOKOR same as some people shorten North Korea to NOKOR
@@safes9571 it doesnt exist here in korea we call us ROK republic of korea not south korea
This is perfect for exporting to other allied countries with small military budget
Hoping soon pH Navy will order this patrol craft and partner with exciting Shaldag MK 5 FAIC.
AFP: *cries in budget allocation.
@@mr.g2360 Nothing is imposible under Honorable President Ferdinand Bong bong Marcos Jr.administration.
"Not on the SCREEN; but on the SCENE" 👍👍
An interesting boat - if they could replace a few of those rockets with anti air missles (all in the same launcher), would be a better design and make enemy air assets a bit more cautious.
there is no need for Anti Air missiles since, any enemy aircraft approaching the patrol boats which are patrolling near the coast, would be engaged by LAND based fighters. I feel a CIWS could be added for dual purpose use as a "small anti air/anti missile" defence and also used against small fast boats.
@@lingth ummm kind of but where?? There is no space
@@anormalkorean5048 either above the bridge or mid ship, but if a 20mm CIWS needs a lot of deck space or need to "pentrate the deck" to be mounted..
maybe something Rafael Typhoon Mk 30c Stabilised Naval Gun System, which allow 200 ready to fire 30mm rounds, or smaller version of it like the Mini Typhoon which can be fitted with 12.7mm machine gun and is only 170 Kg and dun need to pentrate the deck of the ship meaning just place it on somewhere without drilling a hole through deck.
its certainly more accurate than a manned 30mm cannon, since its stablised and compentate for the rolling of the seas, and in cold winters, the gunner need not expose himself to the cold weather or enemy fire, and it comes with senors, that can make firing at night easier.
Or i would add a small sized (around the size of 1m length), drone, just arm it with a small 7.62mm, it can be used to inspect suspicious "fishing boats" before sneding a boarding party. the drone works like a mini helicopter, can be used to spot targets for the rockets and 76mm main gun also.
@@lingth it's already cramped as hell on those ships there is no more room to add stuff
@@leekyungmin-t6u They could use lightweight anti-ship missiles like the Sea Skua which South Korea already operates. The Kuwaitis use them in their FACs so its a very feasible concept. It also looks like the 130mm guided rockets in their current design can attack ships up to around the same maximum range of the Sea Skua. The question here is if the rockets can penetrate air defenses as well as cruise missiles.
A Really interesting, informative and well put together video 👍
So essentially the same concept as the Torpedo Boat Destroyer concept during the world wars. A boat specifically designed to counter a specific threat.
very precise explanation for Chamsuri class!. resently 4 more launched.
Hi! One of the Chamsuri will come to Uruguay like a gift for Korea. Saludos amigos!
Nice video. But I think the absence of any meaningful air defence system on the boat is a handicap.
Hello Haba. I know what you mean. But I think it was a basic design choice. Keep the vessel as lean and mean as you can and leave air defense to other assets. I think this is reasonable. The basic purpose is against surface threats.
해궁 방공시스템이 장착될 예정입니다
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Hoping that the Philippine Navy will aquire this kind of ships to compensate the aging fleet of patrol boats of the PN. With the help of Philippine lawmakers it is possible to aquire these ships. For every major islands of the philippines and has 2 of these ships stationed in the port it can give the appropriate defense and security againts all illegal activities in the philippine seas.
Yeah, especially since it has enough weaponry to intercept china coast guard ships , and also could be our fast and quick deployment in WPS, after the recent news
And also it could be used in the sulu sea, but it will be the nestor acero class job, i really hope we could purchase atleast a dozen of it
설명이 상당히 객관적이시네요, 무인순찰선의 필요를 모르는 게 아니라서 수상용과 수중용 드론도 이미 상당히 개발되었습니다.
더구나 무인입출항 실증을 상선으로 행했기 때문에 시각이 없는 것도 기술이 없는 것도 아닙니다.
Your explanation is quite objective, it's not that you don't know the need for unmanned patrol boats, so water and underwater drones have already been developed considerably. Moreover, it is not that there is no vision or lack of technology because the demonstration of unmanned entry and exit was conducted as a merchant ship.
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Me like that missile boat. Great job South Korea. It's out of the box thinking that gets the job done.
I hope they offered this on Philippine navt instead of the other design type. This is more usefull
Small faster low maintenance high grade weaponry. Nice
Unmanned surface vessels can't do damage control, can't do VBSS, can't react quickly to unexpected situations, have terrible situational awareness, can't do SAR missions. They are a terrible alternative to manned patrol craft. This coming from my 21 years in the US Navy.
Thank you for the interesting topic and good presentation of the information!
Does anybody know something about the ship at 10:15 ? The one with the helicopter pad and the helicopter at the stern?
It’s the Cheon Wang Bong-class LST
@@kkang2828 Very interesting project! Thanks a lot!
Wish you a Happy New year!
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Nah not really, cope harder
This is an old information. Korean Navy is drastically different and very modernized with both stealthy and unmanned ships and boats as well as submarines. Go check Hanhwa Ocean or Hyndai.
Could we see a video on the Astros II
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Would it be possible to publish the list of future videos?
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The next Weapon Detective Air will be the Kawasaki C-2.
Weapon Legends Air, Kawasaki C-1.
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In PKMR, first, ROKN does not use a ceros200 Ku-Band Radar. Instead, using a SAQ-540K EOTS as a Fire Control sensor for Wia made 76mm naval gun.
Second, they does not use SPS-540k which is used on LST-2, ATH-81, PKX-A, and KDX-3 BatchII. Instead, ROKN uses SPS-560K, which is modified model, for smaller Ship like PKMR.(Cause there is much more ROLL and Pitch on PKMR than PKG-A, it is hard to use on PKMR)
How is the chamsuri looks similar C&C Gunboat
While it is a risk to the sailors onboard it can keep the moral ground if fired upon. After all if a NK vessel fires at a unmanned vessel and get returned fire against their manned vessels which causes casualties, NK will be able to claim they lost sailors and SK did not. Also having unmanned vehicles will always make them more likely to be used than a manned option.
This is essentially the LCS with out a lot of the cool RORO and helo mission space.
this is the LCS without the bloated US military budget and ineffective parameters.
Para México cuál sería el costo de lancha rápida patrullera si pueden hacer el vídeo en español, realizar un vídeo del catálago de armas que vende Corea del sur incluir precios gracias
its not just about the 20 crew, these patrol boats tend NOT to have kitchens and they have a Small "Pantry" with a microwave and toaster, to make quick meals like Instant Ramen and such,
Making the ship unmanned will eliminate the need for things like Crew sleeping quarters, toilets, pantry and any weight used for food..
These weight can be changed to make the fuel larger for longer patrol missions.
No need for kitchen as this vessel is intended to do missions within few hours. There are a lot of kind of on-see-bases near the NLL (also around SK littoral coast). Also, this vessel is intended to do a lot of paramilitary missions so on-board personnel is necessary.
장점 : 구형 참수리보다 자동화 되어있고 무장이 강하다.
단점 : 로켓의 무장으로 인해 유폭 가능성이 매우 높고 무게중심이 너무 위로 쏠려있어 기동에 제한이 있다.
하지만 해군에는 항상 그랬듯이 낭만이 있다.
무게중심 같은 소리하고 있네 ㅋㅋㅋ
@@bae4971 미안한데 이거 실제로 조함해본 사람 의견이고 방구석 밀덕들은 방에 쳐박혀서 아닥하고있어라 걍
근거도 없는 사실무근인 정보입니다.
Could you do a video on the new Croatian made patrol boat?
I hope our shipyards in Mariveles, Cavite and Cebu get enlarged, modernized and get to build small fast Frigates and Corvwttes and effective and eficient fishing boats. Can't imagine the employment gains, economic boost and prestige Filipinos get. Repairs can be done locally cheaper and faster. Our fishermen can make a decent living, not relying on Left over catches by more powerfull boats.
Who thinks operators left alone to decide to shoot some missiles? Why would anybody sacrifice anything? Why manned vehicle are better preventing aggressors bold behaviour? Manned vehicles are indeed needed but not for these reasons. Eventually they will host control stationa of unmanned ones located in safety a little back.
It could be described as a SK version of the RAM launcher and missile.
I wonder how much a demilitarized one would cost? An also how much it'd cost to equip a 40mm bofors, a quad 20mm, and some dual .50 mounts? I mean I heard Chile was starting to issue letters of Marque again to combat illegal fishing by Chinese fishing fleets. So. . . .*shrugs* I mean depending on the bounty their offering one of these could be a sound investment. Lol
Chamsuri 2 is smaller than the Pohang class Corvette of South Korea or SOKOR .
Its ROKN, ROKA, ROKAF, ROKMC, ROK ITS NOT SOKOR THE FUCK EVEN IS THAT
Cuál es el costo de la lancha rapida Corea del Sur chasiri ll
Ya tmm daha çok kitleye ulaşmak için ingilizce çekiliyor videolar ama türkiyede sizin gibi fazla kanal yok lütfen türkçe alt yazıda ekleyin
How much???
Hey. Can you make video on BAYKAR AKINCI Drone please...
Yes. count me in. It would be interesting
The gonduksury class
pede na sa pinas yan
A platform that would not have been created if North Korea had not been the main enemy.
The secondary weapon is too weak need to replace by 30 mm M230 chain guns, adding the manpad anti tank missile would be better , incase of the ship damage lost power !
Use Hellfire missile instead of 130mm rockets
@@ktiger1766 considered Hellfirer but that is not reliable weapon on foggy coast marine condition, thay said
This patrol boat is actually just made for against North korean navy only.
@@ktiger1766 The 130-mm Biryong guided rocket has a range more than twice as long as the Hellfire.
이런 함정 추가보다는 대전함급으로 대체 하는게 낫지싶은데~~~
Too bad you use metric measurements for everything, lots of channels use both. When you say a Kilometer it's not as if people in the USA have ever used them. It would be one thing if it was a 2 to 1 measurement or something similar, but it's not.
they serve a purpose one kind of unique for sourh korea. not very useful for a country like the usa.
Go south korea
Masih bagusan buatan Jepun
they dont name the ships thats so bad luck