Too Much: A Story About Twice Exceptionality
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Emily Kircher-Morris, Therapist and host of the Mind Matters Podcast, shares how her fierce independence and boundless enthusiasm led to others telling her she was “too much,” and how she learned some hard lessons about who she was and who she wanted to be. Listen to her twice exceptional, or 2E, story!
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I was just recently diagnosed with “2e”, I wasn’t very creative until high school hit. They put me in advanced classes and I made all A’s while I struggled in regular classes.
This is more common than you'd think, often for 2E folks, it's the boring & unchallenging things that are hardest for us!
@@EmbracingIntensity yeah my psychiatrist recently told me that! I was like wow, it all makes sense now.
I actually was kicked out of my special gifts programs cause I stoped working for it (it was grades based in Brazil) also i didn’t have the options to take advanced classes so I just started sleeping in all classes by the age of 12 and only listening to new information. I recently been diagnosed twice exceptional too and it all makes a lot of sense.
They almost kicked me out of the gifted program in high school for not performing up to my "potential"!
I had ALL of these exact same experiences. Down to the letter.
I could relate to a lot of them myself!
In high school my daughter would give herself a zero and hand busy work back to her teachers saying I do not do busy work. You were hired to teach. Now give me something meaningful to do.
I love this! Sounds like something I would have liked to do if I had been more bold!
When I was growing up in school, I remember learning to solve math problems in a different way than what the teachers would teach. My dad, who has a math degree, argued with my teachers at a parent teacher conference saying that this way of getting the correct answer was how I understood math. They didn't take it lightly then until I got into high school then they learned to accept that as long as I still showed the work on how I got to the answer they were accepting of that and I still got an A.
Thanks for sharing! I could never memorize math formulas myself and figured the problems out through logic instead - but it took way longer and left more room for errors.
My quote my parents picked up as quite funny when I was a child was "But I like too much". I am 2e Asperger's (possibly dual diagnosis with adhd) & is very asynchrony but my parents thought that because I was asynchronous that was "bad" and I was not as gifted as I thought I was. Even though my visual spatial reasoning was superior to them they did not see that as so. (even though they called for me to fix everything in the house electronic, they said it was a generational thing I was a kid and they are old that's why I'm good at technology... but I was fixing the house vrc tape recorders with a butter knife alone, because I could visually see in my head what was happening with the mechanics of the trigger release in the vrc tape recorder. They wanted to chuck it out because they thought it was completely broken) When I was 4 I remember imagining a shark tank under my kindergarten sandpit I was convinced there was sharks there and was excited by the idea, until I realized if that was the case the sand would fall through the net that was holding the sand up as I tested how sand falls between my fingers, therefore debunking my imagination. Although I do miss seeing things that could not happen in reality but only in the mind. As you can see I cant help myself but to overshare my memories but my parents thought oversharing was bad for me to do... (I wonder if its because they was afraid I would say something that made them look bad...) My parents always told me I ask too many questions and it will get me into trouble, but luckily I didn't listen to that because I felt it was unfair. But I did not speak up about it because I knew my mother would think I was being unfair to her for not listening to her. when I got into high school I got dropped out by my principal because apparently I chose not to listen to the teacher in class... I am now 20 and I'm looking for other gifted individuals that I can equally discus ideas with everyone- (note I had never had proper education from school nor learnt proper social skills) -and take their ideas into equal mind as if they where my own thoughts. I love to debate ideas and argue intelligently, but I can not seems to find people who will take me seriously because of my lack of education. My thoughts have deemed to others (including my parents) as mad or crazy I would like to prove to them I am mad or crazy but not in the way on how they think I am "mad"... ;) ... I recognize my thoughts that sit in the Devine Madness, I understand. I want to read "you" the reader of this comment at this moment reading on what you think of what I typed/said. Talk to me I would gladly enjoy it. :)
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Asyncronous development is part of the definition of giftedness even without a diagnosis of something else, so it definitely doesn't make someone "less gifted." Some of the most gifted and outside the box folks I knew in high school dropped out. My friend Cosette Leary who's story I told in the Library short experienced a lot of discrimination due to education and how she spoke, and now she's a national public speaker who is being mentored by one of the greats!
Interesting. :)
@@snowy9764 I think I have 2e because ever since I was young Ive had a talent for languages. By the age of three I learnt Greek while my family were in Greece by only watching Greek TV for about half a year.In half a year I could speak back to the people in long fluent sentences based on what they said to me. I also had the ability to learn and repeat really long and complicated words. My dad's Russian but I never learnt it well only talking here and there but around two or three months ago I spent about one hour and became fully fluent in the alphabet writing and reading (three hours total) I could feel a connection to the language and then I would physically try to speak fluently. Aka I heard a letter said once and so I was able to say it fluently from then on. I believe the unique thinking with 2e is also fascinating because for me I think 2e was also in creativity as I could come up (and I still do) with very complicated philosophical ideas. Mind you being a big picture thinker and other creative qualities are all linked to 2e for example I sit down and start thinking about the human spirit and what it is fundamentally and turns out what I say was already existent. On a Oxford paper. But the wording is different. But the challenges with my 2e are ADHD which heavily affects concentration and various other factors. Too many times have I been told that I'm not applying myself or unlocking my full potential. It's in a way sad. Anyway that's my story if you or anyone read this I am thankful. Oh and OP I really liked listening to your story it hit home
I enjoy people who think, see, do outside the box. I read your whole comment. “Normal” people are boring 😂
I literally zoned out for a second watching the drawing lol help me lmao
Ha! Yeah I go back and forth on the hand effect - it can be distracting