I remember watching those early episodes for the first time, and even though I wanted Jay to be the green ninja, "I mean, he's my favorite, of course, my favorite deserves it", it just didn't make much sense. However, I also did not think it was any of the other original four. I'm a very literal person, so I took the picture part of the prophecy very seriously and guessed there would be a 5th ninja. I thought that Nya would become the green Ninja though, so I was a little disappointed, but Lloyd ended up surprising me and being better than I thought.
Yeah I thought kai should be it cause I always rooted for him but before the volcano where Kai got true potential I knew that he wasn't UT Lloyd had to live cause he had a destiny to fill
I mean, it makes sense, the green ninja's point was from weakest to strongest, Jay didn't have as many special things and was less expected, Jay, Nya and Lloyd were definitely the most worthy
@HenryHart-ez5qe A big part of Kai is the fact that he wasn't supposed to be the green ninja, it would just take away a lot from Kai, it would be very flat and obvious, and I don't think it would be nice if he had been the green ninja after "beating" Garmadon
I can see this idea of jay becoming the green ninja in dragons rising since most we see of him is just him being serious (idk what I did there) but in ninjago it doesn’t make sense
I think the only thing that can prove Jay was ever going to be the green ninja is the graphic with the 5 ninja all side by side. It could be seen inside of the spinner travel case and in multiple of the Papercutz comics. In this art, the green ninja has Jay’s eyebrow slit while the blue ninja has a more generic design, however, all other artwork on the travel case has the generic eyebrows on the green ninja. But it is possible that the one with Jay in green is an earlier artwork, which would back up this claim, but the just didn’t change it before pushing everything out
I hate when people use the old blooper reel as a source for info. It literally states Lloyd's last name as "Green"; it should not be used as a credible source of information.
It’s impossible that they changed the green ninja from Jay to Lloyd like half way through the season because in Zane’s dream/ vision you could see the green ninjas eyebrows and jays have that scare. These eyebrows were thin and looked exactly like Lloyd’s. 😎yeah
I guess it was just a writing room "idea" (if even that), like the writers were throwing their thoughts on who the green ninja would've been and Jay was just a thought in the table before it was written down to be Lloyd.
If Morro became the green ninja then i don't know what could happen but how though i don't really think someone with a power could even be the green ninja if so how would they use two powers we only saw someone using Many powers in season 4 and the recent season
I personally think it was a very early decision change, especially since the first time lloyd appears, his hoodie has a green five on it. He becomes the green ninja, the fifth ninja on the team. That'd be a wild coincidence if it wasn't intentional. Plus, all the golden weapons had been in Jay's presence multiple times before the first Lloyd scene, and they didn't react the same.
When I was a kid and I had the green ninja mini figure. I took Lloyd's face off and tried on the other ninja's faces, Kai looked too angry and only worked in red, Cole was weird, Zane was close, but Jay's face and hair( since him and Cole were the only hair pieces we had at the time) looked perfect in the Green Ninja suit.
I Thought Cole was gonna be the Green ninja Considering he never changed out of Black and Green is Also a color for Earth cause of Grass and Plants so I thought he would become the green ninja and Also cause he was the og leader before It went To Kai and Lloyd Kinda on and off
I remember back then when the Lego website just to promote pictures and animatics of various ninjas but mostly jay so I just to think that he was going to be the green ninja.
If it have been one of the ninja it would've made awful message for kids like" hay kids if you want to be the winner you have to be cocky and zesty and think about no one but yourself!"
Lloyd is my favourite ninja and my second is Zane but even my option for green ninja out of the og 4 is Cole in the early seasons he had good leadership skills while Kai was arrogant and sometimes selfish and ignorant so definitely Cole for me
Of the og 4 I think it would have been cole. But lloyd was INFINTELY better (I still don’t understand why sensei Wu didn’t try putting out the weapons for all the ninja tho, could have saved a lot of time and stuff)
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not, but I think it’s for the best that none of the original for ninja became the green ninja. That way, all four of them can remain on an equal playing field in terms of importance to the story. Honestly, even if Lloyd didn’t become the green ninja, I think someone like Nya would’ve been a better choice than one of the main floor just so the core for ninja are still equally important With that being said, I think Lloyd was the best choice given his connection with Garmadon and the character he would develop into
Every time I see people go back to the green ninja argument it makes me question this community. Seriously, it was 2012! It's about to be 2025! Grow up! It was always going to be Lloyd and the show is all better for it. Stop using a blooper reel joke to support your "facts" that were never true. If you're still upset over this you're either immature or you stopped watching after season 2.
Jay I have always related to him and when I saw the episode about the green ninja I knew it should have been him but it would have been weird not having a blue ninja minifig and it would be really rare since it would have only been pilot and more expensive since there was no more Jay suits like it
As a Zane fan I can confirm that Lloyd was going to be the green ninja from the beginning of the first season because when someone talk about the green ninja they show Lloyd after that every time from the first episode Watch the first season to see that
Mayde creaiters do it a new ninjago show besat on marvel's what if and callt lego ninjago what if episode 1 what if jay be come a green ninja not kai and lloyd episide 2 what if kai be a green ninja not lloyd episode 3 what if zena whers a pink suits in all season 1-16 of og show and dr show episode 4 what if misako never adenbet is son lloyd in school for bad kids and he never be come evil and never open hipnopray tomp and henpayr tomp and anackondry tomp and paytor never opne others topms like venomary and constryktay and never found fang bleids and awayke a great bevaver episode 5 what if littile great devaver never bite yunge garmadon on a past and he never be come a evil drak lord he all weys good episode 6 what if nya never be come evil by black matter she can stey whit ninja misako and sensei wu and they fall and garmatron intrutuste episode 7 what if sensei wu never be come a evil cayborg robot thing and he just escepe whit ninja from infectet new ninjago city episode 8 what if ninja tolte all elemantal masters to is turnament of elaments is a feka by master chen's evil plan to stell them all and ninja rescu and seve zena on island not in island episode 9 what if lloyde just to escepe from morro a d morro never pessest into a golden sneke and not grab lloyd in is teil and morro evil elemental master of wind never pessest to lloyd and it's all season 1 of ninjago what if
This video is not a clickbait but i agree he needs to stop clickbaiting because a f5 member being a female or male isnt a big deal and no one cares about that much
@d1nq887 Yes exacly, he says that fans are devastated about the fact that Drix isnt female but in reality literally nobody even cared, and this is a very low quality bait video since its old news, the fact that Jay was supposed to be green ninja was available for years and is super irrelevant nowdays.
No wonder why he Became Evil!
Imagine that plot twist
@@bryans3436well that would be a dumb plot twist
Kai would’ve probably
@@bryans3436 I hope you are doing well today.👍
@@kastenedwards1217I hope you are doing well today.👍
I’m happy he wasn’t because blue is my favorite color and lightning is my favorite element.
Yee
SAME
Same 💙 . Best character!!!!!!!!🎉
exactly what my sister said...
Bro I called jay being the supposed green ninja it suit him and jay kinda has the most arc also a way to stick it at Kai
It's good that Lloyd became the green ninja. Everything else would not have fit the message they wanted to tell.
What's the message they wanted to tell?
What indeed
@@Brot33 that you don't have to be a prophesized savior to still be a really cool ninja
Agreed I like my boy Lloyd as the green ninja
No , they can just make Llyod's story jay or kai so wat u on abt
Also in Zane’s dream, the green ninja grunts sounded like Lloyd and he had Lloyd’s eyes
Look again it sounded like kai
bro the amount of work Tanner puts into giving us info is insane I don’t even like to dive deep into shows but I’m always watching his videos
I remember watching those early episodes for the first time, and even though I wanted Jay to be the green ninja, "I mean, he's my favorite, of course, my favorite deserves it", it just didn't make much sense. However, I also did not think it was any of the other original four. I'm a very literal person, so I took the picture part of the prophecy very seriously and guessed there would be a 5th ninja. I thought that Nya would become the green Ninja though, so I was a little disappointed, but Lloyd ended up surprising me and being better than I thought.
Yeah I thought kai should be it cause I always rooted for him but before the volcano where Kai got true potential I knew that he wasn't UT Lloyd had to live cause he had a destiny to fill
1:05 Lloyd looking kinda zesty in that pic
More like sassy.
Plus the prophesy said the 4 ninja would guard the green ninja so none of the original ninja would be the green one
As a jay fan. Im glad that jay didn't become the green ninja. I will always love him as the Blue Lightning ninja!! 💙⚡️💙⚡️💙
Same
@@saadmalik3442yea
Blue Lightning Ninja For Ever💙⚡💙⚡💙
Plus green isn't his color
Same 👍⚡️
I mean, it makes sense, the green ninja's point was from weakest to strongest, Jay didn't have as many special things and was less expected, Jay, Nya and Lloyd were definitely the most worthy
Should been kai
@HenryHart-ez5qe A big part of Kai is the fact that he wasn't supposed to be the green ninja, it would just take away a lot from Kai, it would be very flat and obvious, and I don't think it would be nice if he had been the green ninja after "beating" Garmadon
@ don’t care
@@HenryHart-ez5qe ok 🤷♂️
@@HenryHart-ez5qe arrogance can be multiple people and me and him are talking to it
Bro if one of the og ninja became the green ninja, IMAGINE HOW MUCH CAOUS WOULD HAPPEN 😭
I mean he said "lead actor" meaning that he could be the leading the green ninja
I can see this idea of jay becoming the green ninja in dragons rising since most we see of him is just him being serious (idk what I did there) but in ninjago it doesn’t make sense
Uh the golden weapons glowing for Jay is a far stretch like a really far stretch they glow because the animators just sometimes have them glow.
YALL IMMA GIVE YOU TWO REASONS JAY SHOULD HAVE *NOT* BEEN THE GREEN NINJA:
ONE: HE IS FUNNY AF
TWO: GREEN IS NOT HIS COLOR
I think the only thing that can prove Jay was ever going to be the green ninja is the graphic with the 5 ninja all side by side. It could be seen inside of the spinner travel case and in multiple of the Papercutz comics. In this art, the green ninja has Jay’s eyebrow slit while the blue ninja has a more generic design, however, all other artwork on the travel case has the generic eyebrows on the green ninja. But it is possible that the one with Jay in green is an earlier artwork, which would back up this claim, but the just didn’t change it before pushing everything out
My fav, my main man, Jay is awesome!
Same!
Likewise, he has nothing left to lose, they were all taken from him
YEEEEESSSS!!!!!
It should been Kai
@@HenryHart-ez5qe let's agree to disagree
No wonder why he’s in his villain arc
Finally, something I knew before Tannerfishies!
Bedwars dying but I love it
I hate when people use the old blooper reel as a source for info. It literally states Lloyd's last name as "Green"; it should not be used as a credible source of information.
It’s impossible that they changed the green ninja from Jay to Lloyd like half way through the season because in Zane’s dream/ vision you could see the green ninjas eyebrows and jays have that scare. These eyebrows were thin and looked exactly like Lloyd’s. 😎yeah
Well yeah, they changed that too😅 I'm pretty sure they made that final decision right before releasing the season, not in the middle of it
@@kristinaundcookie6447 oh, now the theory makes more sense, thx
@@kristinaundcookie6447 It was decided when Lloyd was created, lol.
I guess it was just a writing room "idea" (if even that), like the writers were throwing their thoughts on who the green ninja would've been and Jay was just a thought in the table before it was written down to be Lloyd.
Jay was actually the option for the green Ninja tanner, but they changed it early on which is why there are no signs for jay 😂 anyway love your vids
As a Jay fan I am glad Jay wasn’t green it feels right it was lloyd
Yeah I like Kai but seeing the brotherhood it seems right now and how they care for each other
Imagine Morro’s reaction to all this.
"First you step in my domain, then you steal my destiny!?"
Imagine doctor julian(Zane’s dad) was the old master of technology
If Morro became the green ninja then i don't know what could happen but how though i don't really think someone with a power could even be the green ninja if so how would they use two powers we only saw someone using Many powers in season 4 and the recent season
People complaining about who was supposed to be the green ninja originally
Meanwhile Lloyd having a green 5 on his clothing:
imagine jay finds out he should of have been the green ninja in dragon rising
When I saw this title, I almost instantly thought of that old blooper.
I didn’t know Jay was supposed to be the green ninja that’s crazy to think about.
Another thing too is that Blue is a closely related color to Green.
This is definitely entertaining to hear.
I personally think it was a very early decision change, especially since the first time lloyd appears, his hoodie has a green five on it. He becomes the green ninja, the fifth ninja on the team. That'd be a wild coincidence if it wasn't intentional. Plus, all the golden weapons had been in Jay's presence multiple times before the first Lloyd scene, and they didn't react the same.
Dude it has 12 years forget this subject we need information about dragons rising (Jay is better in lightning)
2:02 that’s sick
The “Who is the Green Ninja” storyline is a recycled story of Bionicle’s “Who is the Toa of Light?” Which led to Takaneuva against the Makuta/Overlord
Back in the day I was kinda thinking it was gonna be nya, and I'm a jay fan but even I know Jay wouldn't make sense as for the green
As a jay fan i prefer Jay as the blue ninja not green
Blue works best for Jay and anyway Jay is still the best ninja
Yeah⚡️
@DEADLYSTORM22 W
Yes Jay is awesome!!
@@ThePokemonPrinceYT the awesomest
Totally
When I was a kid and I had the green ninja mini figure. I took Lloyd's face off and tried on the other ninja's faces, Kai looked too angry and only worked in red, Cole was weird, Zane was close, but Jay's face and hair( since him and Cole were the only hair pieces we had at the time) looked perfect in the Green Ninja suit.
I Thought Cole was gonna be the Green ninja Considering he never changed out of Black and Green is Also a color for Earth cause of Grass and Plants so I thought he would become the green ninja and Also cause he was the og leader before It went To Kai and Lloyd Kinda on and off
Jay was always my favirite
I remember back then when the Lego website just to promote pictures and animatics of various ninjas but mostly jay so I just to think that he was going to be the green ninja.
If it have been one of the ninja it would've made awful message for kids like" hay kids if you want to be the winner you have to be cocky and zesty and think about no one but yourself!"
Lloyd is my favourite ninja and my second is Zane but even my option for green ninja out of the og 4 is Cole in the early seasons he had good leadership skills while Kai was arrogant and sometimes selfish and ignorant so definitely Cole for me
Of the og 4 I think it would have been cole. But lloyd was INFINTELY better
(I still don’t understand why sensei Wu didn’t try putting out the weapons for all the ninja tho, could have saved a lot of time and stuff)
I don’t know if this is a hot take or not, but I think it’s for the best that none of the original for ninja became the green ninja.
That way, all four of them can remain on an equal playing field in terms of importance to the story.
Honestly, even if Lloyd didn’t become the green ninja, I think someone like Nya would’ve been a better choice than one of the main floor just so the core for ninja are still equally important
With that being said, I think Lloyd was the best choice given his connection with Garmadon and the character he would develop into
I like jay being blue ninja more then green
It would’ve been nice but I like ninjago how it is and if it was none of them it could’ve been nya
Bro said Jay became evil because he wasn't the green ninja giving me Season 5 vibes
So would that mean Lloyd would have been evil instead of jay or would jay be the evil green ninja
Every time I see people go back to the green ninja argument it makes me question this community. Seriously, it was 2012! It's about to be 2025! Grow up! It was always going to be Lloyd and the show is all better for it. Stop using a blooper reel joke to support your "facts" that were never true. If you're still upset over this you're either immature or you stopped watching after season 2.
i found about it on google it says it but i dont know if its true
I wonder how the show would've went if Jay WAS the green Ninja
BEEN TELLING the Kai fans this and they ignore it
8:00 nya fans insist it should have been nya (definitely)
That would have been interesting foreshadowing guess no one picked up on that detail also if that true wonder what made them change there minds?
Jay I have always related to him and when I saw the episode about the green ninja I knew it should have been him but it would have been weird not having a blue ninja minifig and it would be really rare since it would have only been pilot and more expensive since there was no more Jay suits like it
I like Jay but I can’t see him being the green ninja
I mostly see either Kai or Cole as the green ninja
no.
And people are still mad Lloyd was chosen to be the green ninja...
it's been years guys
True
True. I mean, come on people. Let. IT. Go
I agree it's been a decade
If Lloyd wasn’t the green ninja my boi Kai would carry great ad the green ninja🔥💚
.. Why do i keep thinking im the only one that thinks lloyed is the best
Edit: Well its in my opinion lloyed is just my favorite character
Amazing work I can tell you work hard on it.💯👍💜
7:29 me also😅
As a Zane fan I can confirm that Lloyd was going to be the green ninja from the beginning of the first season because when someone talk about the green ninja they show Lloyd after that every time from the first episode
Watch the first season to see that
I thought it was gonna be Nya when I was a kid lol
Well think fucking God They change it and choose lloyd to be the Green Ninja and leader I always think i would be nya not the original 4 members 😅😅😅
I’ve see people speak about this interview on TH-cam before pretty sure weeview said it (hope I spelled that right)
You didn’t know this
4:41 who is bald
Skybound would he wayyyyy different
Lord garmadon
Jayyyyy my love
Bro search it up
I don't get it. Why are some people saying the weapons glowed for Jay, the weapons could've glowed for anybody in that scene. L theory in my opinion.
Ok that's ridiculous.
wait jay? as a green ninja??? kai was the green ninja but hes not anymore
Kai was never the Green Ninja. He just thought that he was.
Nope none of the og 4 was the Green Ninja idiot.
@@Appmonvert jeez chill i just forgot okay?
@TweekxCraig_SouthPark Okay.
you already covered this in some short
I’m sorry Jay fans but Jay is my least favorite ninja I’m really happy Lloyd became the green ninja.
Tanner you are months late haha that was revealed months ago
I knew about this
Noooooooooooo 😮
5:56 you think we don’t know that
Zane was the best candidate for the green ninja, but FSM chose someone from his family, who would have thought...
Justice for my boi Jay!!
JAY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE GREEN NINJAAAAAA!!!
Mayde creaiters do it a new ninjago show besat on marvel's what if and callt lego ninjago what if episode 1 what if jay be come a green ninja not kai and lloyd episide 2 what if kai be a green ninja not lloyd episode 3 what if zena whers a pink suits in all season 1-16 of og show and dr show episode 4 what if misako never adenbet is son lloyd in school for bad kids and he never be come evil and never open hipnopray tomp and henpayr tomp and anackondry tomp and paytor never opne others topms like venomary and constryktay and never found fang bleids and awayke a great bevaver episode 5 what if littile great devaver never bite yunge garmadon on a past and he never be come a evil drak lord he all weys good episode 6 what if nya never be come evil by black matter she can stey whit ninja misako and sensei wu and they fall and garmatron intrutuste episode 7 what if sensei wu never be come a evil cayborg robot thing and he just escepe whit ninja from infectet new ninjago city episode 8 what if ninja tolte all elemantal masters to is turnament of elaments is a feka by master chen's evil plan to stell them all and ninja rescu and seve zena on island not in island episode 9 what if lloyde just to escepe from morro a d morro never pessest into a golden sneke and not grab lloyd in is teil and morro evil elemental master of wind never pessest to lloyd and it's all season 1 of ninjago what if
Poor Jay
Dude this is old news everyone knows this by now, stop clickbaiting.
This video is not a clickbait but i agree he needs to stop clickbaiting because a f5 member being a female or male isnt a big deal and no one cares about that much
@d1nq887 Yes exacly, he says that fans are devastated about the fact that Drix isnt female but in reality literally nobody even cared, and this is a very low quality bait video since its old news, the fact that Jay was supposed to be green ninja was available for years and is super irrelevant nowdays.
First
No one cares
Congratulations I was second only 30 seconds after you
I do