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  • the things i do for roblox arsenal, recording at 3 am, but yes the secret monkey skin is becoming alive. this time around, it seems to be better planned out. let's see the Results
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  • @GDILIVES
    @GDILIVES  3 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    plz join membr i drove 2500hd chevy truck to burger place to get no burger at 4 am :((((
    ego buddy here: www.roblox.com/catalog/6238488175/GDILIVES-Shoulder-Pal
    twitter: twitter.com/M1A2_AbramsTank
    discord.gg/tC9vh9u

  • @guhItsIde
    @guhItsIde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    0:13 get a snack at 4am real life action

  • @p1xelat3d
    @p1xelat3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    john : you saved me... why?
    Rolve : *hmmmm* *mOnKe*

  • @untitled3866
    @untitled3866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    he went out of his way and tried buying a burger, what an admirable man.

    • @nerdsuki561
      @nerdsuki561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tricky Where is ur grammar?

    • @habibanoor4637
      @habibanoor4637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tricky bruh watch your grammer

    • @edbertdharmawan1819
      @edbertdharmawan1819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@habibanoor4637 *WHY DID I HEAR BOSS MUSIC*

    • @t_hat1guy631
      @t_hat1guy631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A true American

    • @untitled3866
      @untitled3866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Joe mama you're not a fan of john? ok

  • @pizzackertheplayer2679
    @pizzackertheplayer2679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    tbh, I like it when John says 'it's fine, it's ok' it feels like he's a close and supportive friend even though he's not.

    • @parzma4284
      @parzma4284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When he actually acts like a good friend (joke)

    • @maiture6361
      @maiture6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooo banana

    • @vyl0c
      @vyl0c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s like a friend comforting somebody that has been there, but still hasn’t resolved their own issues yet ether

    • @pizzackertheplayer2679
      @pizzackertheplayer2679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vyl0c hey thx for replying to my comment, and yes I agree with u

  • @Pedro3017.
    @Pedro3017. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    0:10
    John is playing Get a Snack at 4 AM but on real life..

  • @user-yr7xg9nq2b
    @user-yr7xg9nq2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Damm he really went to buy a burger at 4:18 am

    • @Yayayyahs
      @Yayayyahs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey you should check me it

    • @Danuber
      @Danuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yayayyahs ?

    • @0divide136
      @0divide136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      should've bought it exactly at 4:20 for the funny

    • @tacoman6485
      @tacoman6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      get a snack at 4AM:JOHN ROBLOX Edition

  • @iztoxicity
    @iztoxicity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If it was open, the workers from that burger place would probably SO mad at you but couldn’t say anything to you

  • @Warrison_
    @Warrison_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Wow he is insane getting a burger at 4am

    • @Idontgetitlol0
      @Idontgetitlol0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Get a snack at 4 AM intensifies*

    • @okthen1159
      @okthen1159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Idontgetitlol0 insert dad wakes up

    • @Idontgetitlol0
      @Idontgetitlol0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TixecStars im not

    • @Idontgetitlol0
      @Idontgetitlol0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@okthen1159 Insert purple man

  • @thealltimeusername
    @thealltimeusername 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    John:gets a burger at 4 AM
    Me: *laughs at 7 PM*

    • @NoobGamingXD_
      @NoobGamingXD_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me: *Reading at 1 AM*

    • @MorganMoen
      @MorganMoen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      me at 12 PM

    • @sergeantblue6115
      @sergeantblue6115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me in 2022

    • @36joevections95
      @36joevections95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me falling asleep at 6pm and waking up at 7am next day

    • @micahballs
      @micahballs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me not even part of time anymore:lucky people

  • @EgorProhorenko
    @EgorProhorenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    John: calls banana a fruit
    Me an intelectual biologist and also a certified monke: Banana is a berry.

    • @F.RO.H
      @F.RO.H 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do grow on giant herbs that are more related to lillies and orchids
      So you are correct

    • @xsxeno
      @xsxeno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bsd mobile adds : your legally intelligent

    • @TearedOne
      @TearedOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok but berries are also fruits alongside bananas

    • @huss4758
      @huss4758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Intellectual*

    • @chedrice6389
      @chedrice6389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Banana is 100% berry they grow from twees

  • @jsnsmsksnsn7754
    @jsnsmsksnsn7754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:13 everyone gangsta till you notice the world is being flooed by soda

  • @antoniolasagna7095
    @antoniolasagna7095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Damn how john says banana
    Is so cool

  • @b0771e
    @b0771e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think this video is wholesome especially when he says "ooh monkeeee"

  • @oof_plays541
    @oof_plays541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    John you’re actually funny sometimes

    • @thatprobacon_yt
      @thatprobacon_yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All the time*

    • @aztozmine
      @aztozmine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Always has been

    • @F.RO.H
      @F.RO.H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only a couple of times

    • @TheOneAndOnlyRec
      @TheOneAndOnlyRec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sarcasm, he's unfunny.

    • @enteristic
      @enteristic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get a snack at 4am real life version

  • @XCitrustD
    @XCitrustD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:50
    No one:
    John's editor:Putting a :3 sign infront of a plane crashing in one of the buildings

  • @nictheonewithlag
    @nictheonewithlag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow john is playing get a snack at 4 am irl, nice

  • @gloopyleopard5963
    @gloopyleopard5963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought john would be driving a silverado

  • @0u_rs97
    @0u_rs97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I really like how he got a burger at 4 am.

    • @genghiskhan.2265
      @genghiskhan.2265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s...you....

    • @normalbiscuit
      @normalbiscuit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      :0

    • @0u_rs97
      @0u_rs97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genghiskhan.2265 hello

    • @0u_rs97
      @0u_rs97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normalbiscuit ;)

    • @e_cl06
      @e_cl06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0u_rs97 hello man how are you today

  • @claymaster8042
    @claymaster8042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This will be cool if they made a shop where the currency is bananas and you can buy the monkey skin and banana themed items

  • @archon7225
    @archon7225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    John : Its ok to take the L
    John Voice pack : DO NOT TAKE THE L WIN THIS!

  • @turquoiseseller
    @turquoiseseller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m pretty sure you are supposed to get as much bananas as you can and then there’s a contest to who gets the most bananas. The person 1st gets the monky skin. That’s my theory

  • @TheMexicanpriest
    @TheMexicanpriest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ok

  • @OvalHasAimBot
    @OvalHasAimBot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    roblox arsenal tutorials: how to aim better
    john roblox tutorial: bananas

  • @eepmeds
    @eepmeds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    alt title: john trying to get a snack at 4 am

    • @loganenniss6507
      @loganenniss6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro it's only in the vid for like 30 seconds why?

    • @ActuallyNotOk
      @ActuallyNotOk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @revyeter8453
      @revyeter8453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "The get a snak at 4 am"sounds so familiar, like a roblix game...

  • @batimbap1886
    @batimbap1886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:57 tbh that's a good excuse cuz their VIP SERVERS ARE 100 ROBUX!!

  • @brxyle
    @brxyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did I just see a tiktok notification in John's phone...

    • @jhanealexong5306
      @jhanealexong5306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @RingingDart IsTheBest well if she/he haven't saw it then its "see" but if he/she already did its "saw" (therefore he/she's Grammar isn't wrong)

    • @MrGuestMan1901
      @MrGuestMan1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was

    • @MrGuestMan1901
      @MrGuestMan1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wth

    • @Lovelivebeomgyu
      @Lovelivebeomgyu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do u mean did I just saw

    • @MrGuestMan1901
      @MrGuestMan1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lovelivebeomgyu theres two tik tok notifacations on johns phone

  • @AtheanaThePartyPooper
    @AtheanaThePartyPooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:50 airplane in the back round be
    Like: skkkkrrrtt!! Brrr!!

  • @vermelhoaim
    @vermelhoaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Monkey event
    Prizes
    10 bananas = banana gun skin
    20 bananas =monky announcer
    45 bananas = banana kill effect
    60 bananas = delinquent banana
    120 bananas = karambit banana
    200 bananas =monky dance emote
    450 bananas = monky without banana (skin)
    1000 = monkey skin
    1450 =monkey thats cool
    Monky mode
    3:50 minutes to get more kills with banana guns
    -power "pottacium"
    -explode banana
    -banana pistol
    -exclusive map = jungle

    • @maryvelasco3576
      @maryvelasco3576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait but is that true?

    • @vermelhoaim
      @vermelhoaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maryvelasco3576 just an idea for the developers

  • @mangki4732
    @mangki4732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The annoying part of the public servers grinding for monkey is the hardest since people always kill and it’s annoying

  • @myuu3948
    @myuu3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    since everyones first im second

    • @idk-cv1ht
      @idk-cv1ht 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok

    • @a5hify_
      @a5hify_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now this is overused

  • @avnober3647
    @avnober3647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:13 Get a snack at 4am actual footage in real life caught in 4K

  • @Notstolencomment
    @Notstolencomment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow he is insane getting a burger at 4am
    This comment has been stolen from Tactical Warblox by the Stolen Comment Corp.

  • @weknowingcheeky705
    @weknowingcheeky705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:07
    he...
    he *got a snack at 4 am*

  • @KptnYggdra
    @KptnYggdra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:31
    I'm pretty sure this is a hint towards the bananas being a form of currency for the event just like the money earned during the Hackula event you exchanged for Alchemist Plague Doctor, Thriller, Skull Wep. Skin, etc.
    But this time we get the Monkey skin, maybe some fruit themed melees and kill effects, perhaps a Banana Hammer? Coconut Mace?
    There better be a 'Banana Rotat e' Emote.

  • @Joetheonne_
    @Joetheonne_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everybody is so focused on the monkey skin nobody realizes hat maybe all of the skins may be re-skinned check the rolve Twitter

  • @realgreenglitch3689
    @realgreenglitch3689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody:
    John Roblox: *RrOoAaDd.. oN dA rRoOaAdD.. WwWWWOOOWW bBuUuuRgEEr.. mY lOrD aNd sAvIoR..*
    That one guy driving next to him: is.. is he ok..?

  • @vEnvyRain
    @vEnvyRain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Him:stays up til 4 am
    Me who stays up til 5 am:hm pathetic

  • @ItzLizzard
    @ItzLizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John roblox: gets a burger around 4am
    Other people: DONT GET A BURGER AT 3am

  • @itsalistaire
    @itsalistaire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude: omg i never played with a youtuber!”
    john:
    banana

  • @chicken759
    @chicken759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The monkey skin is probably gonna be like 10k-100k since its a literal skin that makes you get a self yellow team

  • @NobodyBoximus
    @NobodyBoximus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By "stock up" I think it means you buy the monkey skin with bananas, I'm guessing around 10k bananas

    • @SleepyPopups
      @SleepyPopups 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That some *O V E R G R I N D* better do that. Collect dem bananas endlessly

  • @chickenites
    @chickenites 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    john: be there or be square
    r6: visible confusion

  • @Blu713
    @Blu713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:08 get a snack at 4am in a nutshell

    • @BCJ845
      @BCJ845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      facts

  • @Average_PlayerFromRBX
    @Average_PlayerFromRBX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if bananas still be able to spawn in maps after whatever will happen it whould be good because we dont know how many we need and that results in us getting noting as reward

  • @nikogamkrelidze5065
    @nikogamkrelidze5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg guys john roblox just posted a 4 am challenge! its called 'GOING AT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AT 4 AM!

  • @kizugx
    @kizugx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now the doppelganger of john is in arsenal

  • @ItsRealAquarion
    @ItsRealAquarion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres new type of bananas that keep moving near some poll or a wall in like matrix,dizzy and sandtown (Public servers)

  • @icewallowcom1294
    @icewallowcom1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JOHN will become Monke
    If he collect all banana as he can
    *MONKE LEGEND*

  • @thanosmoon3892
    @thanosmoon3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it is like the Halloween event if you get a certain amount you get more prizes and the monkey skin is the last prize

  • @roatninthethird
    @roatninthethird 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey john, you should play gorilla tag on your vr headset. you'd fit in perfectly

  • @frezzy7375
    @frezzy7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goodluck to get as much as banana :) i got 345 bananas im bored of it since people will end the game

  • @crabfork
    @crabfork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i get killed by john and then he says oh that was pretty cool that was a pretty cool shot

  • @TheVkBoy_3
    @TheVkBoy_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When john got monkey with flying banana like sans event

  • @Carlosbolivr
    @Carlosbolivr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Play aethelbeorn u might like it, it’s on ROBLOX btw.

  • @pach-o-rra8971
    @pach-o-rra8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John: *Its 4 A.M. ... Its time to get a burger guys!*

  • @Desalataria
    @Desalataria 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:33 I know that grass pattern I’m coming to your location rn one second

  • @josiahroyal6338
    @josiahroyal6338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like how he put :3 on the plane XD

  • @sander-martinvoro137
    @sander-martinvoro137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:16 were not gonna talk about that sound XD

  • @unknownytarsnal
    @unknownytarsnal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard that even the whole server gets the skin because the bananas dont respawn as glass so anyone in the server gets it and idk how much the skin costs because u need bananas to buy the skin

  • @highve2796
    @highve2796 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a theory when u get 1000 fruits the guy in glass at glacier u shoot the glass than u fight him and he has a monkey on hes shoulder than once hes down u feed the monkey and u get rewarded the monkey skin

  • @bIehhh
    @bIehhh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man is a real chad at the fact that he is recording himself getting a borger and recording so early in the morning

  • @oshard3505
    @oshard3505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everytime i pick a banana in a public i think "yeah John would be proud of me"

  • @yuzukiru
    @yuzukiru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Intro Has a reference of "get a snack at 4m"

  • @yenyenyen4054
    @yenyenyen4054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alternative Title: Gorilla Finding his bananas

  • @accountmoved_check_description
    @accountmoved_check_description 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    00:49 plane crashes in the background
    John: this is fine

  • @jace_is_fazed
    @jace_is_fazed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Theory: I think after we get a lot of bananas the game will be updated and there will be a new map and the monkey skin will be there as a boss and you need to defeat it but if you want to get the skin you spare him and give him all the bananas you have and he gives you the monkey skin.

  • @coolguy12399
    @coolguy12399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:34
    John’s announcer: DO NOT TAKE THE L, WIN THIS!

  • @lovesvelq
    @lovesvelq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love when he says *banana* everytime he sees it xD

  • @enexivity6377
    @enexivity6377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monke is more important than sleep.

  • @sovereign2680
    @sovereign2680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you're probably gonna need to buy the monke skin in the shop with the bananas or something, or talk to an npc

  • @OvalHasAimBot
    @OvalHasAimBot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 am
    nobody:
    john: burger

  • @jfsport3275
    @jfsport3275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it’s a boss event where the amount of bananas you have this the amount of bullets you have in the boss fight

    • @moochezz
      @moochezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that would be way too easy ngl, too many people would have the monke skin if that were the case

  • @notawaken6901
    @notawaken6901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tip the smaller fov you got you can see the gold ones at beach better

  • @Rizcraker
    @Rizcraker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:52 Delinquent that's cool with unusual effect?

  • @NoaH420wysi
    @NoaH420wysi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you break the banana's lying around everywhere
    You don't get a extra banana
    You just added more bananas when
    They float

  • @Dark-rw7uh
    @Dark-rw7uh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That red panda in GoodTOKYORrevenge or he was trolling

  • @kyiro2075
    @kyiro2075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:13
    John roblox playing get a snack at 4 A.M. but in real life

  • @iforgor1123
    @iforgor1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:50
    fun fact: the plane was from world war 2 travel to 2021

  • @ShowGames_TV
    @ShowGames_TV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    basically jandel impersonating

  • @imincriticaldebt1302
    @imincriticaldebt1302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the bananas will unlock the monkey skin for purchase for bucks, or use bananas to get monkey
    But the next phases idk

  • @d4niel285
    @d4niel285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At this point john roblox is playing grab a snack at 4Am in real life

  • @kavin4839
    @kavin4839 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to collect bananas means
    Bananas respawn every 10 seconds
    Bananas only available in public server
    Every bananas will despawn after match ends
    Like me if this helped you

  • @walk_kevin3566
    @walk_kevin3566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    here a list of pure "banana's" that John say on the video :p
    0:42
    0:47
    0:57
    1:01
    1:12
    1:16
    1:41
    1:47
    1:50
    1:56
    1:59 *secret banana*
    2:00 | 2:01
    2:04
    2:07 | 2:08
    2:18 | 2:20 | 2:22 | 2:24
    2:37
    2:43
    2:57
    3:23
    3:39
    4:03
    4:08
    4:40
    5:19
    5:26 | 5:27
    5:32
    5:41
    5:51
    6:21
    6:34
    6:41 | 6:42
    6:53
    7:00
    7:10
    7:20
    7:42
    8:04
    8:25
    and yes i have time to did this lol
    "45" times he say banana's tho

  • @crumb10
    @crumb10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John how many bananas do we need to get for the monkey skin or do we need to get the bananas in beach dizzy and sandtown??

  • @Ronnies25
    @Ronnies25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    200-300 bananas is what you need I think not 100 percent sure(correct me in replies if I'm wrong)

  • @newbiezep8058
    @newbiezep8058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    plane is crashing with :3 face

  • @arroz1853
    @arroz1853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    jonh roblox looks like amogus and doom had a son 69420 years ago

  • @Maethan89
    @Maethan89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven’t played arsenal in months but I want monke so I will play.

  • @mysterious7413
    @mysterious7413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternate title: Get a snack at 4am with RTX 3090

  • @marthinneillapoimichael2495
    @marthinneillapoimichael2495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to defeat john:
    1.spawn bananas

  • @corrupteddelinquent1506
    @corrupteddelinquent1506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me knowing he was in the 4am
    Me thinking is like hes playing get a snack in 4:00am

  • @Eyeguyoker
    @Eyeguyoker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alt title: wild gorilla finds bananas in lego shooter game

  • @ShadowOfWoo
    @ShadowOfWoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the monkey skin comes, its gonna say get 1m bananas so the monkey skin is unobtainable lol

  • @badmankj502
    @badmankj502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The monkey sound reminds me of that tower battles video John made at the end when he wHOOOOwhowhohoWHOOO

  • @gato9253
    @gato9253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    theory: one day the monkey skin will be in the shop and then u will need a certain amount of bananas to buy it

  • @xslvrr
    @xslvrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:07 *get a snack at 4AM*

    • @tacoman6485
      @tacoman6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real Life Edition

  • @crack_soda
    @crack_soda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    john played get a snack at 4 am irl

  • @oobdEye14
    @oobdEye14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    JHON I FOUND A BANANNA IN THE GLACIAR MAP WHERE YOU SPWAN INFRONT OF THE FORT LOK IN FRONT OF IT ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THERE YOU WILL FIND A BANANA

  • @Average_KUplayer
    @Average_KUplayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    monkes forced the owner to put it or he get torched by throwing bananas at him so thats how the upadate came