2:35 Bon Jovi 7:10 W.A.S.P. 14:00 Talking Heads 18:00 Pearl Jam 22:42 Patti Smith 25:35 Magma 31:15 Journey 36:10 The Pretenders 40:25 The Eagles 44:50 Guns'n'Roses 50:38 Honorable Mentions 53:22 The Clash 55:30 Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Status Quo
This show is great. We need more of this. Everyone has their lists like these and they are all so different. It's great to hear these honest views without any bullshitting!
For me it's U2. They seemed interesting up to "Unforgettable Fire." I Kept buying the albums until one day 20 years later I realized that each one was less memorable, or just not as electrifying. I guess you could say they had lost their edge. (Also saw the South Park episode about Bono. If you've seen it, you'll know what I mean, lol) Remember when Apple or some corporation force-downloaded the U2 album for free into everyone's library. ( 5 to 10 years ago. I forget which album) I don't remember any other time that you were FORCED to own a copy of someone's music.
Nice take. Their old stuff was edgier and more artistic. I thought they ran out of gas during the Pop Mart Tour, and then they rediscovered how to mail it in and make money.
U2 were one of those bands it seemed like we had to get embarrassed into saying anything good about... they had one or two songs that I can remember, and they weren't bad songs, but it just wasn't the sort of thing I ever listened to by choice, and I just can't bring myself to care that they exist. There - I said it! I don't care about U2, I don't get them, I won't be shamed any longer into pretending everyone needs to like them!!!! :D
You guys have no idea how much this video cheered me up this week. I have had a miserable week with everything going wrong it seamed. I laughed out loud many times during this video. Thanks!
I know a TH-cam show is quality when two guys are ragging on a few of my favourite artists and not only am I finding it all thoroughly entertaining, sometimes I'm nodding along..
Indeed! I actually often disagree with Martin Popoff on a particular band or album, but he is still so interesting to listen to, even when we disagree, that I happily keep reading his work and listening to him!
Agreed. The term “so-in-so sucks” is the laziest term to describe a band or musician one doesn’t like, as if it’s a dictation that all in the world must agree to. These gentlemen realize and convey that they’re aware many love an artist that they don’t and it’s just a matter that it doesn’t click for them. No need to project a stance of being the only one who’s right. Well done.
@@whenfatkillsfat803 Come on, pal. "Smuggler's Blues" is a fantastic tune. The whole "Allnighter" bar the awful track you mentioned is very listenable. Needless to say, Miami Vice's "You Belong to the City"... Great song!
The first three albums have their moments, but yikes, things go way down hill starting with New Jersey. After Slippery was a major hit, success went to Jon's head really fast.
The reason critics love The Talking Heads is because they're nerdy and pseudo artsy and that makes critics feel comfortable. As for Martin's opinion of Steve Perry -- I will say this -- I'm not a huge Journey fan, and it's fine not to like someone's style, but to say he isn't a great singer is absurd. The guy has a one in a million voice.
you might be surprised to know how many people like the illusions albums. I think they suck but Appetite is a sleaz-rock masterpiece. Lies was a great EP as well.
@@xxxInternazionalexxx exactly - everythings written for maximum airplay - with no heart / soul / attitude - dave seems desperate to be as big as nirvana on his own - but will never be revered like them
I think Popoff's comment "maybe you had to be there" is true of all music. It's the stuff you grew up with between the ages of 12 and 20 that stays with you for life and anything outside of that will never hit you quite the same way.
I don't know about that. Some music that I loved between the ages of 12 and 20, I still love, and some of it, I don't. There is a lot of music that I love now, in my 40s, that I couldn't really get into between the ages of 12 and 20. I didn't get into much jazz, beyond Miles Davis and John Coltrane, until my 30s. I never liked much death metal or black metal until my 40s. I'm 47 now and still discovering some of the greatest music I've ever heard!
@@Scottlp2 Blackberry Smoke have *great full albums* that I will be listening to for *decades* to come, and any rock band should be proud of having written and recorded those albums. There is still great rock, hard rock, heavy metal, and progressive rock being made. It's just not in the mainstream, and all over the radio, in the U.S. anymore, but it's definitely out there.
London Calling was the first album I bought from a shop.. It was great to hear a punk band begin to combine other elements instead of the classic punk of the first two. Not many punk bands advanced
I've been a huge fan of Kings X since I heard their debut in high school and to this day are still in my top 3 favorite all time bands. I'm proud of you Pete for giving them yet another chance and starting to like and appreciate them
They were My Other Favorite Band (favorite being R.E.M.) in the early 1990s. I still think that Rush and King's X would have been the perfect double bill.
When Kings X came out I thought they would rule the world. Their music was accessible but distinctive. It was different without being weird. They were a classic three-piece with great singing and playing and they were very visual. And they had the same manager as ZZ Top. I thought they would rule. Shows what I know.
I first heard of Journey when I heard their song Anyway you Want it. I loved the song and the vocals so I bought the album then regretted it because I can't stand Perry's voice. Later, through repeated listens, especially the Escape and Frontiers albums, I grew to appreciate his voice. His vocals are just so superb and works with certain songs that they are untouchable. Nobody covers their songs because every one of them is so inferior to Journey's original. A similar singer is Dream Theater's james LaBrie. I used to wish that they get another singer but with some of their songs, laBrie's vocals just work and I can't imagine anyone else singing it.
I saw Dream Theater at the Hollywood Palace when Images and Words was out. They blew me away live, other than LaBrie. LaBrie is a guy, not bad, not special...nothing like Bruce Dickinson or Ronnie James Dio...it's just that for the talent of the rest of the guys in the band, he's not in their league.
I heard a story that the guy who owns the rights to 'Dead Flowers' by the ROlling Stones allowed them to use the song in the movie (without paying royalties) because of that line, as he hates the Eagles as well!
#1 The Clash Clash Clash #2 Patti Smith #3 Pearl Jam #4 Nirvana #5 Marilyn Manson #6 Poison #7 Bon Jovi #8 Def Leppard (after Pyro) #9 U2 #10 Bruce Springsteen 😁🎸🤘
Can’t get on board with the Steve Perry comments. His voice is amazing, and he’s about as accurate and effortlessly consistent in his prime as any singer has been.
My list: U2, Springsteen, Steely Dan, REM, Bob Dylan, Journey, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Blink 182, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The Doors, The Sex Pistols, The Dave Matthews Band, Maroon 5, & any death metal band.
The Doors were a fine psychedelic rock band - I have about a dozen of their songs on regular rotation in my playlist, and i've been hearing their music since I was a toddler in the '70s, they never seem to get old for me. I love death metal, too - lots of splendid stuff going on there, especially in some of those Florida acts (once you get over the vocals, Obituary has some damned heavy and crunchy riffs that are the equal of almost anything else in hard rock and heavy metal), and the melodic stuff that started appearing in places like Sweden, Finland, and Norway back in the '80s (the likes of Entombed, Dismember, At the Gates, Therion, Amorphis, Cemetary, and Tiamat could get rather beautiful!) I couldn't really complain about most of the rest of that list, though - could just be a matter of taste, but especially the likes of Springsteen, Dylan, Pearl Jam, Blink 182, Dave Matthews, and U2 do little or nothing for me. For example, with Sprinsteen, U2, or Bob Dylan, I feel like hearing their most famous songs once was pretty much all I needed, and anything after that is overkill. They don't replay well, at least in my book, and their deeper cuts did nothing for me. I suspect that Nine Inch Nails might grow on me if I gave them a chance: I loved their ambient soundtrack for the old Quake video game. And I rather liked Nirvana's unplugged album - most of those songs are on regular rotation in my playlist, even though I don't own anything else by Nirvana, and don't care to bother with almost any other grunge band. I'm not a fan of Marilyn Manson or The Sex Pistols at all, but I guess I can understand why their fans like them: I think I'd sooner roll with a proper electronic/industrial gothic metal act (say, Samael or Mortiis Era II) or The Ramones, though. REM and Journey are tough ones for me to judge: I've heard a song or two by REM that seem enjoyable enough, and one or two that irritate me, but it's not my style of music, and just not something I could get into... where REM works, I can appreciate that they work, but otherwise.... And, much the same with Journey: I've heard three or four songs from them that I like well enough, but it's just not close enough to my style for me to bother giving them any more effort than turning up the occasional hit when I'm forced to listen to the radio on a long car trip. I just don't have any interest in exploring their back catalogs at all. Still, it seems to me that a good Journey or REM song is probably better than anything else I'm likely to hear on the radio (and even then, I'll sooner take The Doors or my favorite death metal bands any day!)
Being a music obsessed teenager in the 70’s I was there when Kiss Alive was all the rage. I was originally a huge Beatles\Stones\Kinks fan and later I was into Zeppelin, Yes, Deep Purple, and Jethro Tull. A friend lent me Kiss Alive and I was underwhelmed. The songs were weak and the vocals were poor. It seemed that the make up and hype were a huge part of the appeal.
A band I never got was Kiss. Yeah, they are adequate musicians, but their albums are very average hard rock. without their make-up and stage dramatics they would never have been noticed.
I've thought about this a lot because I hear what you're hearing. All I can come up with is that you had to be there and buy into the horror imagery and dramatics. It probably helped to be a teenage boy in the '70s.
After Dio was booted from Rainbow he started a band with a couple of guys from Elf and a couple of the guys from Little Feat.....then he was asked to join Sabbath. Would have been interesting to hear those songs.
Wasp is still releasing albums just as good today as the 80s there like the harder hair bands u should try and give them another try wasp is still popular but no commercial play ...
I love Patti Smith's "Horses" (especially), "Easter" and "Dream of Life". Dang - Prince, Big Star, Wilco, The Band and Dylan - whoa - those are crucial acts for me. Oh well, to each their own. Interesting discussion overall though. I love the way Martin says "draaama" too instead of drah-ma like we do down here below the 49th parallel.
Talking Heads were a fantastic band that wrote amazing music. Not all of it, but at least half of it was genius. You have to witness them live to really appreciate their greatness. Fear of Music and Speaking in Tongues, and especially Remain in Light are magnificent albums. Patti Smith was punk before there was punk. Easter, Horses and Radio Ethiopia are splendid albums. I also like Dream of Life a lot.
I go as far as Remain In Light with Talking Heads. It's a mixed bag after. Brilliant band, though. That Martin Popoff would a game changer like Patti Smith's Horses "soft" is beyond. Fine. It's his taste..
Talking Heads are definitely a band to see live to really appreciate. Their first three albums ( Talking Heads '77, More Songs..., Fear of Music) are my personal favorites.
Talking Heads are in my top 10 for sure. For some reason I like the music critics of the 70# and 80s tended to like. I guess it boils down to what you think about punk rock. These 2 guys although very nice and God bless them. They just seam like musical bone heads. Everyone has their own taste. I'd like to have a beer w these two guys for sure.
I must be a bone head, too. I'm not into The Talking heads. Nothing against them. Great songwriting but that doesn't mean I like the music. Same as Queen. The masses love Queen--I'm not into anything they've done-- even pre A Night at the Opera stuff. Back to New wave: I do like a lot of ; New Wave and some punk; but Talking Heads aren't punk. I'm just not into their style. Rush fans seem to be the most immature when one criticizes them. You're not at that point but you're almost there. @@bhdctn
I respect Pete being honest. Could have easily caved with London Calling because Martin and Portnoy push it. This is how you can truly trust the content.
Yes, respect to Pete for trying. I do not love the voice of Joe or Paul. But the album is great. "Hateful" is so powerful, "The Card Cheat" - heartbreaking somehow. The melodies get stuck in your head for weeks. But well - we are all different.
All I know is whenever I see people write " The only band that matters "..I just think, wow, that is why I cancelled my subscription to Rolling Stone..The magazine that panned Rush .. Not just panned them, but pretty much ignored them ..Yet ,claimed that every band that nobody cares about is so fucking great..It is, and always has been a trendy ,snobby piece of shit rag, that is not even worthy of the bottom of the birdcage..
@@kiplambert64 Let's remain civil. We are all rock fans in the end. It's all about having fun, as we have so much more in common. And small differences in taste is just a feature, not a bug. No amount of cursing can take away what we love. Unless, of course, fighting about taste or the need to belong to a certain "tribe" is a way of life. I hope not. P.S. Both Rush and Clash are great in my eyes :) Love this show in any case.
And very often liking or disliking something is whether we allow ourselves the feeling of liking. Sometimes the walls in our heads are psychological, more than we even admit it ourselves. It's much more than music itself.
The same. The guys in the band all seem like good guys with good taste and I like Mike's tribute side projects but Dream Theater's music just doesn't click with me.
I would like to thank you for introducing me to MAGMA. When you mentioned them, I paused your video and have been hooked on them ever since. Can't get enough! I will continue watching the rest of your list soon for other great bands you guys can't get into. hahaha! :)
I knew it. I knew some people would discover Magma with this very show and that, amongst them, some would first be intrigued before falling for the amazing uniqueness of their music.
@@kevinismawayoflife4660 One of the problems with Magma is that Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh is broadly considered as their signature album. Well..., happens to be one or the one I never got into. Beginners never should start discovering the Magma discography with MDC. Try the easier ones : Attahk and Merci. Although the latter one is more of an Offering album than it is a Magma's.
@@h.m.7218 I started with that live video that has Zombies as the second song. The first song just rolls into the second one. I have listened to that whole thing at least 10 times now. It's become Sacred Music to me now. Who are these Gods? lol!
Too funny!! Here they are, dogging bands and inadvertently turning people on to those very bands. Glad you discovered Magma. They're FANTASTIC....GENIUS!!
The productions are not great on Talking Heads albums? That’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard here lol. The production on their albums is some of the best, especially “Remain In Light”.
Yeah sometimes you just need to say "I dont like this band" and not try to find some technical reason to bolster your opinion. Especially if you love throwaway disposable music like the Ramones. And hair metal.
@@charlesrambeau519 I like The Ramones and The Dickies too, but they are not even in the same league as Talking Heads, all 4 of them are great musicians and Byrne was a great frontman, Pete’s reason for not liking them beyond their hits is precisely why I like them, being weird is what made them stand out amongst all the other stuff at the time, they certainly weren’t conventional and their weirdness wasn’t forced weirdness, it was genuine, they came up through the NYC music scene and played at CBGB’s often as did Blondie neither band were punk bands, they were doing their own things. Talking Heads experimented with different sounds on each album and each album is different from the other, that’s also what makes them such a great band. Funny too Pete doesn’t like “London Calling” by The Clash either. He’s just not a punk/post punk guy, but “London Calling” is probably The Clash’s most diverse album. I don’t like a lot of metal bands and some classic rock bands covered here either, I’ve never been a metal head, I find the music just meh, the singers pretty much sound the same to me as do the guitar tones, no connection to it. Nothing really stands out. Metal is just an old worn out genre, it has nothing else to offer. Talking Heads were a breath of fresh air during their heyday.
Agreed! I am also turned off by the fact that I can't point out that the cult of Dylan makes it hard to say I think he's an overrated nasally bore without being accused of trying to be arch and iconoclastic for effect. I am not. The Emperor wears no clothes as far as I'm concerned, and half the fawning fans who accuse me of heresy are simply jumping on the received wisdom bandwagon.
@@emdiar6588 LOL. Well said. I never could wrap my head around this cult following of his. They have him up there with Jefferson starship, Hendrix etc, I don't think so.
For me it's Queen- Brian is a great guitar player, Freddy is an incredible singer, but their music is like a collection of novelty songs. I love a few of their songs, but overall the overblown pretentious arrangements suck. I agree about London calling- absolutely killer song, totally flat album.
Yep. I never cared much for Queen and don't like their status as one of the best bands, their fans really overrate their music all the time. A song here and there, never full albums and "under pressure" is just lame to me which no one seems to think so.
Like Martin said towards the end, the reason the first two Pretenders albums sound different/better is that they were the only two real Pretenders albums. James Honeyman-Scott and Pete Farndon both died prior to the third album, so they've all been pretty much Chrissie Hynde solo albums since then.
Right! And I know this shouldn't matter, but listening to Chrissie in an interview is about as fun as watching paint dry. She has this very off-putting, marble-mouth, faint English accent thing going on which comes off phony ( yes, I know she lived there briefly...) with NOTHING interesting to say which doesn't speak very well of her persona, off-stage.
Yes David L, a very good band was assembled for Learning to Crawl and I think it's really an exceptional album. I would probably argue it's better than II, however i do think those first 2 albums had such a unique, particular sound that was the result of Farndon and especially Honeyman-Scott's brilliant, idiosyncratic guitar playing.
Believe it or not, but here in Europe, nobody knows Dave Matthews Band. I gave a chance to this band 20 years ago with 2 of their albums, but it wasn't for me, so I gave up.
I saw them a bunch of times live, or maybe it was just one time and it felt like it would never end. A chick dragged me there against my will, actually it was in a big music fest. One song was good: a Pink Floyd cover from Dark Side with pedal steel, in a spectacular atmospheric venue.
I didn't think much of the Talking Heads until I saw the concert movie Stop Making Sense, which made me a fan. Brilliant performance that made me realize how catchy and funky their music is.
4 if you include Captured. I always assumed that every serious music critic felt the same way. Escape is listenable and has a few good tracks; stoned in love and mother, father are good, but yea totally with you. Now I am assuming you mean the first 3 with Perry which was technically Journey's 4-6th. Journey sweet spot is Infinity, Evolution and Departure. Are those the ones you meant?
@@mattmiller2761 I've listened to either "Journey" or "Look Into the Future" and would've never known it was Journey. Jazz-like in spots, IIRC. Same with the earliest Scorpions stuff. Rather like both of them BECAUSE they were so different from the sounds that made both groups famous.
"Steve Perry is a novelty voice". Yup. A "male diva", as he's been described. He makes a fine contrast to Gregg Rollie on "Feeling That Way" or "Anytime", but I can't take it all day long. Also Steve Smith has to be the most simplistic, boring drummer ever. If they'd kept Dunbar, it would have been different.
@@mck7646 True. I remember one time when the guitarist was pushing back on a fan who was complaining that the record company wasn't supporting their latest album (Faith Hope Love). Sometimes it's not the right time or the right sound. I still love these guys, regardless.
I like most of the videos that Pete puts out on this channel, but he has a definite dislike for punk/new wave music. I don't like all of it, of course, but still, some great music came out of those years (including London Calling).
@@comicbookcountdown9252 A lot of punk (and near punk) music gets really repetitive and simplistic. There's just not much going in terms of musical complexity or emotional range. New Wave, on the other hand, was much more musically dynamic and less stylistically limited than punk.
My list was easy and just don't get any of these widely well liked bands. I've tried. In no particular order. -The Rolling Stones -The Grateful Dead -Rival Sons -Tool -The Misfits -Bob Dylan
The Dead cover an awful lot of ground. There is something in their discography for just about everyone. Ultimately the Garcia/Hunter songwriting partnership will be recognised as having the greatest American songwriting catalogue of the second half of the 20th century.
I'm with you on all of them.I like Stones up until about '74 and then it's over.U2 and Pearl Jam are similar in that, if they both didn't have their frontman,they would have never went anywhere, yet both Bono and Eddy can annoy the hell out of me.
I liked a lot of the '60s "British Invasion" hard rock bands - grew up with my parents listening to them a lot - but I have to agree on the Stones: I liked a couple of their songs, but mostly found them off-putting for some reason. Give me the Kinks, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, the Moody Blues, and I'm happy, but the Rolling Stones will have me hovering over the skip button every time....
OMG ripping into Talking Heads! So funny. I LOVE Talking Heads very much and I listen to all the obscure bits and pieces, so I actually enjoyed hearing them get torn to pieces. Really refreshing to hear this take! Appreciate the honesty. For me it's all about the different grooves they built up in the late 70s and then that spectacular big band in the Stop Making Sense show.
Stop Making Sense is insane. And let's remember that Adrian Belew was a touring member around the Remain In Light era, along w/ Bernie Worrel from P-Funk.
Bon Jovi was always just a pop band to me, wasn't even meant to be taken serious. Totally agree about Springsteen, I admire him as a writer and performer but can't wrap my head around the hero worship his fans have for him
Bon Jovi was a cash cow promoted big time by their record label. Jon Bon Jovi was the pretty boy that they sold like corn flakes. A girl once told me she loved the band "because I love the singer's hair!" 🤢
@@ceecoursian A woman I went out with asked me if I liked Springsteen. I told her "he's ok I guess." She asked me why I was so indifferent. I replied, "well I guess I might be a fan if I knew what he was saying, but when he sings it sounds like he's mumbling." She didn't appreciate my answer. 🙄
Martin seemed shocked that The Clash were mentioned. I totally agree, I don't even like London Calling or anything by The Clash. The one band that was not mentioned was U2. I know hate is a strong word, but I hate U2!
Martin is right on with the timing/"had to be there" comment. Trying to access some in the past or some after your musical prime/wheelhouse is often not going to work.
kudos to pete for taking the time to listen to london calling. It sounds like he gave it more than a few spins. To me what makes that album great in particular is how eclectic the influences are. I think the primary influences on the album are: 50's rockabilly and early rock and roll, 50's r&b and maybe 60's/70's soul, classic era reggae, first generation punk and post-punk. I happen to love all those genres so it makes sense i would cotton to said album. I also really enjoy Strummer's voice, however unorthodox it is, and the political, rebellious lyrics of the songs.
Any grunge that isn’t Soundgarden or Alice In Chains. In fact, I know that they are considered grunge, but they will always be just 90s hard rock to me. Aside from a couple of their hits, I never understood why they were considered grunge.
I don't even think of those two as grunge. I think they just broke right around that time and being from the Northwest they were lumped in with the rest. and those two are the ones that I still go back to today. Forget the rest.
Bon Jovi isn't a band...it's Jon Bon with employees. Funny thing is that Blaze of Glory soundtrack is somewhat of a measterpiece as soundtracks go, I think. Later Bon Jovi sounds like Bruce Springsteen or something, another artist I can see why people worship, I never did...
Each to there own Mark indeed I love early Talking Heads and a lot of US new wave Television Marquee Moon one of my top 10 favourite albums behind Heaven and Hell and Back in Black.
@@saint.vitus.7775 you have a point there. Not brave really because of the hot takes being a thing to provoke comments but I do think that there are definitely so many records that are held up as classics that to my ears just do not merit the popular acclaim. Then again, I'm a person who thought the Screaming Trees record Invisible Lantern or Thin White Rope's Moonhead should be known by all and revered.
I figured Pete Pardo would like some Talking heads, because I’m pretty sure he’s a fan of King Crimson. Some crossover there. Especially with Remain in Light
The thing is that Americans like Pete don't have much love for WASP and they think the same is in other countries too.There are bands that are loved in America and we don't care at all here in Europe.By the way musical taste is very subjective and relevant.The only thing is right about are their unimpressive lives
@@bubbadagger Here in Greece their lives are sold out everytime they have played although they shouldn't.(.not great live anymore)When I go to rock bars here it is one of the bands that get quite frequent play by djs along with maiden priest scorpions whitesnake and Manowar.Manowar are not American favourites either(though Americans) but here in Greece and Europe they headlined festivals with thousands.
WASP has always been one of my favorite bands. Live at the Lyceum is a fantastic concert video. Golgotha is a recent great album. No one can like everything. You have turned me on to a lot of great stuff.
I liked them in middle school. The album "There is nothing left to lose" is a genuine good listen. Don't listen to them at all anymore though, they're just too mild and corporate for me. They get more overblown with every release. The fact that Dave is some sort of industry spokesperson is kinda funny to me and slightly annoying.
I can’t speak on Radiohead, don’t know enough about their music; otherwise, I am with you almost 100%. They are all overrated, especially U2, though do enjoy 3 of their albums, War, Unforgettable Fire, and Achtung Baby
In my early radio dj days the Program Director asked me to listen to two songs that he was considering adding to our rotation that week. One was "Runaway" by Bon Jovi and the other was "Balls To The Wall" by Accept. Both bands were unknown and I reported back to him the next day that Accept was awesome! I said the Bon Jovi song was ok but I would vote for Accept. However, regarding Bon Jovi, I added "This guy is going to be huge!"
I saw Bon Jovi open for Kiss in 1984, seeing them then I never would've thought they'd ever get anywhere with that weird punk/rock image they had early on, like when Hollywood depicted street gangs or rock bands in the '80s it never looked like the real thing. Incidentally, saw Helix open for Kiss the year before and thought they might get real big but that didn't quite happen, I liked them well enough to get their excellent No Rest for the Wicked album.
@The Rain First side of album is revolution , side Two is hits . On first side we had such fire bland of rhythms in " Born under Punches " , Crosseyed and Painless and final song is " Great Curve " . Side B is good but catch is in side A .
Thats What Gives Martin Credibility in His Opinions & His writings. His opinions Carry weight because there not Just Dismissive. He is A Professional, Not an Authority. Were Lucky to Have him Commenting with Pete & SOT...
The Talking Heads pick surprised me. I thought Martin Popoff would love them, I guess that was the whole critics loving them thing he mentioned. I do like them (I think the albums Fear of Music, Songs about Buildings and Food; and Little Creatures are really good). I do find the funk/world music thing on Remain in Light and Speaking in Tongues harder to get into. I didn't get Martin's 'children's music' perception or that they sound stale and too mellow - listen to songs like The Overload, Drugs or Artists Only. Talking Heads can sound sinister and very atmospheric. Well, as Pete says, we all hear music differently.
I like Talking Heads, but I guess they're not for everyone. Their music was minimalist, which I think was supposed to be a reaction to how everything else was Big & Bombastic during the same time period. Sort of the Nirvana-Grunge of the era.
There’s 3 that immediately come to mind that I wouldn’t say are bad bands but just don’t do anything for me for some reason, Def Leppard, Tool and Five Finger Death Punch.
But the Cars do not belong in Pete and Martin's preferred genre, so I wonder why they were even mentioned. Same with Patti Smith, John Prine, Bob Dylan, the Eagles, Pretenders, the Clash etc etc.
If you were in your late teens or early 20's when the first couple of W.A.S.P. came out you knew the party had really started when it turned midnight and they hit the turntable. Then you get older and move on but those 2 albums still have a place in my collection.
Brian Adams What a line up man. Saw them in Santa Barbara and they were good. Saw them with Maiden and enjoyed them. I always thought WASP was better live than what they captured on record.
The band for me that TONS of people love and I can't stand is Nirvana. I'm open to lots of different kinds of music, but I just don't get all the love for them.
Did we have to be on valium to enjoy them? 😂. I kid! I'm 41 years old and all my grade school friends LOVED Nirvana. I hated it. Is that band a "set and setting" type of band?
@margus kiis Oh sa poiss! 😶Vana hea Jon bon Jovi tegi platsi puhtaks suurel Venemaal. Aga karmuse poolest jäävad nad alati alla Blackie Lawless'ile ja tema bändile.
@@karlkrier1314 Bon Jovit näidati palju 1986 -- 87 telesaates "Noortestuudio Pärastlõuna". Vaatasin nime Bon Jovi, mõtlesin et nad on saksa bänd, Bonni linnast.
@@erikstorm8935 Estonians praised only some Russian bands, others were despised as tasteless and dumb. Kruiz and Korrozia Metalla were accepted in Estonia, others not much.
Great comment. With your analogy in mind, I offer: Dream Theater, Nightwish = Fine dining Maiden, Priest, Scorpions = Affordable steakhouse food Early Van Halen = A great flavorful pizza, full of fresh toppings KISS, Nugent, Aerosmith = french fries (steak fries, crinkle cut, tots, etc) Motley Crap, Poison, Cinderella, Bon Jovi = stale generic potato chips
2:35 Bon Jovi
7:10 W.A.S.P.
14:00 Talking Heads
18:00 Pearl Jam
22:42 Patti Smith
25:35 Magma
31:15 Journey
36:10 The Pretenders
40:25 The Eagles
44:50 Guns'n'Roses
50:38 Honorable Mentions
53:22 The Clash
55:30 Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Status Quo
Talking Heads, Tom Petty, and Pearl Jam are solid out of that list in my opinion
@@jjgdenisrobert That moron on the left has forgotten more about music than you'll ever know.
Yes The Clash. Ugh dude sings like he's constipated.
1970s to early 80s quo is one of the best bands of all time
the pretenders?! sacriledge
My only comment is that you need to do a part 2 of this.
Well, sheesh, I'll go find the other 4!
I really liked this episode....part 2 works for me too. Cheers!
There needs to be a part 2, 3 & 4 of this. Make it an ongoing series.
Agreed.
On the need for another and especially The Eagles.
Radiohead is bad and not really Creepy. Just boring.
This show is great. We need more of this. Everyone has their lists like these and they are all so different. It's great to hear these honest views without any bullshitting!
Use to use Yoko Ono CDs to drive out customers at my Record Store at closing time when I had to get out quick!
LMAO
Michael Bolton would work equally well or Mariah Carey lol
I would certainly run !
I worked on a River Cruise in college. We used to turn on the Heat in high summer to get people to leave. Yours is the musical version of that.
This is one of the funniest comments I've ever read in all my life! 300 IQ right there!
For me it's U2. They seemed interesting up to "Unforgettable Fire." I Kept buying the albums until one day 20 years later I realized that each one was less memorable, or just not as electrifying. I guess you could say they had lost their edge.
(Also saw the South Park episode about Bono. If you've seen it, you'll know what I mean, lol)
Remember when Apple or some corporation force-downloaded the U2 album for free into everyone's library. ( 5 to 10 years ago. I forget which album) I don't remember any other time that you were FORCED to own a copy of someone's music.
Nice take. Their old stuff was edgier and more artistic. I thought they ran out of gas during the Pop Mart Tour, and then they rediscovered how to mail it in and make money.
I thought they peaked on Achtung Baby ... but agree they became insufferable.
U2 were one of those bands it seemed like we had to get embarrassed into saying anything good about... they had one or two songs that I can remember, and they weren't bad songs, but it just wasn't the sort of thing I ever listened to by choice, and I just can't bring myself to care that they exist. There - I said it! I don't care about U2, I don't get them, I won't be shamed any longer into pretending everyone needs to like them!!!! :D
Agree i like u2s first 3 albums boy, oktober, war, they were really something special back then
They suck.
You guys have no idea how much this video cheered me up this week. I have had a miserable week with everything going wrong it seamed. I laughed out loud many times during this video. Thanks!
The Bon Jovi comments..nail on the head! My exact feelings..I could never understand how so many people love them!
Teen girls had crushes on Jon and Richie?
@@reinaldofavoreto7160 plenty of bands had tight pants and still played far better, more interesting music
Saw them live in '88 and they were great, but if they played in my backyard tomorrow, I'd close the curtains.
They seemed bland and sacharrine to me and cos of that...fake.
@@richardboughton8338 Saw them in early 80's. They opened for Ratt. They were good.
I know a TH-cam show is quality when two guys are ragging on a few of my favourite artists and not only am I finding it all thoroughly entertaining, sometimes I'm nodding along..
Agree completely. The mark of good criticism.
These guys are always right on!!!
Indeed! I actually often disagree with Martin Popoff on a particular band or album, but he is still so interesting to listen to, even when we disagree, that I happily keep reading his work and listening to him!
Great comment.
Agreed. The term “so-in-so sucks” is the laziest term to describe a band or musician one doesn’t like, as if it’s a dictation that all in the world must agree to. These gentlemen realize and convey that they’re aware many love an artist that they don’t and it’s just a matter that it doesn’t click for them. No need to project a stance of being the only one who’s right. Well done.
The Eagles: In Don Felder's book, he quoted Glenn Frye as saying, "No one can suck the energy out of a room like Don Henley."
Yes
Frey is worse, though. Henley had some decent solo songs. Frey has goddamn Sexy Girl.
@@whenfatkillsfat803 Come on, pal. "Smuggler's Blues" is a fantastic tune. The whole "Allnighter" bar the awful track you mentioned is very listenable. Needless to say, Miami Vice's "You Belong to the City"... Great song!
WASP have always been popular in Europe. granted they play smaller venues now but always sell out. one of my favourite bands
Martin mentions Jon Bovi, I thumbs up the video right away.
Agree! Such a literal cliche of a band. Feel like a fake group in a fake world. Sugar coated crap cookies.
The first three albums have their moments, but yikes, things go way down hill starting with New Jersey. After Slippery was a major hit, success went to Jon's head really fast.
@@ryanjacobson2508 We can talk about Bon Jovi but this band were never blow up from Grunge storm .
@@ryanjacobson2508 Those three have their moments? Like the three moments they are done playing?
Real outlaws don't get perms.
The reason critics love The Talking Heads is because they're nerdy and pseudo artsy and that makes critics feel comfortable. As for Martin's opinion of Steve Perry -- I will say this -- I'm not a huge Journey fan, and it's fine not to like someone's style, but to say he isn't a great singer is absurd. The guy has a one in a million voice.
Agreed. Critics like them because critics are like them
Back in the 70s, I liked the Eagles. Now I wonder, how did they become giant legends?
Gawd, Guns and Roses got great mileage out of that first album.
you might be surprised to know how many people like the illusions albums.
I think they suck but Appetite is a sleaz-rock masterpiece. Lies was a great EP as well.
GnR toured the world on the Illusions. After all bands should be seen live. the album is just the start
The eagles became legendary because they deserved to bon Jovi I can take or leave
Foo Fighters for me, I find them monotonous and Dave's voice grates on me almost instantly.
Yeah all the songs sound the same lol
Yeah, definition of generic rock band, zero edge to them
@@xxxInternazionalexxx exactly - everythings written for maximum airplay - with no heart / soul / attitude - dave seems desperate to be as big as nirvana on his own - but will never be revered like them
@@azdh85224 yeah tryin way too hard - with little or nothing in the way of authenticity
Foo Fighter actually get even worse. When they try to bring humour into there songs.
For me it’s Coldplay, could never get into them.
Yeah never could get into them or REM or Pearl Jam .
Who the eff is Coldplay, I heard the singer married Gwyneth Paltrow, but that's about it.
I would have said this when they were at their peak but a lot of people seemed to turn against them a few years back.
Its a band that only girls like
Cant stand them
This is why I respect Pete and Martin they are honest about who they like or dislike. Without really dissing them. Love this do a part 2.
And you think other critics are dishonest about that? I think as a music reviewer you have to be honest. Otherwise a review/criticism is pointless.
I think Popoff's comment "maybe you had to be there" is true of all music. It's the stuff you grew up with between the ages of 12 and 20 that stays with you for life and anything outside of that will never hit you quite the same way.
I don't know about that. Some music that I loved between the ages of 12 and 20, I still love, and some of it, I don't. There is a lot of music that I love now, in my 40s, that I couldn't really get into between the ages of 12 and 20. I didn't get into much jazz, beyond Miles Davis and John Coltrane, until my 30s. I never liked much death metal or black metal until my 40s. I'm 47 now and still discovering some of the greatest music I've ever heard!
While you have a point, 30 year olds today are covering Blind Faith. 50 years from now will anyone cover stuff from today?
Not sure about this. I was 27 when I started listening to extreme metal and I love it now.
@@Scottlp2 Blackberry Smoke have *great full albums* that I will be listening to for *decades* to come, and any rock band should be proud of having written and recorded those albums. There is still great rock, hard rock, heavy metal, and progressive rock being made. It's just not in the mainstream, and all over the radio, in the U.S. anymore, but it's definitely out there.
@@christianman73 I disagree with whammy's comment too, a lot. If you really love music you got to grow through the years.
London Calling was the first album I bought from a shop.. It was great to hear a punk band begin to combine other elements instead of the classic punk of the first two. Not many punk bands advanced
Wow that's one great first buy!
Even more on Sandinista, for better or worse.
Wow, I never had the words for it, but Bon Jovi’s production gives me the car sick feeling too.
I've been a huge fan of Kings X since I heard their debut in high school and to this day are still in my top 3 favorite all time bands. I'm proud of you Pete for giving them yet another chance and starting to like and appreciate them
Count me in for some huge Kings X love.
New album from those mighty three in 2022
They were My Other Favorite Band (favorite being R.E.M.) in the early 1990s. I still think that Rush and King's X would have been the perfect double bill.
@@sarah2.017 you are absolutely right. I've always felt that a Rush tour with Kings opening would be a fantastic double bill.
When Kings X came out I thought they would rule the world. Their music was accessible but distinctive. It was different without being weird. They were a classic three-piece with great singing and playing and they were very visual. And they had the same manager as ZZ Top. I thought they would rule. Shows what I know.
I first heard of Journey when I heard their song Anyway you Want it. I loved the song and the vocals so I bought the album then regretted it because I can't stand Perry's voice.
Later, through repeated listens, especially the Escape and Frontiers albums, I grew to appreciate his voice. His vocals are just so superb and works with certain songs that they are untouchable. Nobody covers their songs because every one of them is so inferior to Journey's original.
A similar singer is Dream Theater's james LaBrie. I used to wish that they get another singer but with some of their songs, laBrie's vocals just work and I can't imagine anyone else singing it.
🙉🙉
I saw Dream Theater at the Hollywood Palace when Images and Words was out. They blew me away live, other than LaBrie. LaBrie is a guy, not bad, not special...nothing like Bruce Dickinson or Ronnie James Dio...it's just that for the talent of the rest of the guys in the band, he's not in their league.
Martin Channeling The Dude from The Big Lebowski ... “ I hate the F*cking Eagles man ! “ 🤘
My first thought too; "Oh!, not the F@*×ing Eagles, Man!"
The dude abides
I heard a story that the guy who owns the rights to 'Dead Flowers' by the ROlling Stones allowed them to use the song in the movie (without paying royalties) because of that line, as he hates the Eagles as well!
#1 The Clash Clash Clash
#2 Patti Smith
#3 Pearl Jam
#4 Nirvana
#5 Marilyn Manson
#6 Poison
#7 Bon Jovi
#8 Def Leppard (after Pyro)
#9 U2
#10 Bruce Springsteen
😁🎸🤘
I think the thing with W.A.S.P. is that they were a perfect bridge between hair metal and heavier stuff
Lmao, not even close.
As soon as Tipper Gore retracted her claws, Blackie Lawless cowered like a little bitch and softened up.
I always loved Blackies vocals
No worries, Martin; Triumph The Insult Comic Dog interviewed Bon Jovi and did you justice.
Couldn't agree more about Pearl Jam, just never got them.
thank you
ten was a great album, everything after that was pretty damn boring.
Can’t get on board with the Steve Perry comments. His voice is amazing, and he’s about as accurate and effortlessly consistent in his prime as any singer has been.
To each their own, but he's the primary reason I hate Journey.
@@donnievick3076 The first 3 Journey albums before Steve Perry are the best.
@@markhaus2830 I agree!
He was flawless live, also, while many rock singers struggle to pull off much simpler vocal lines live.
@@markhaus2830 LOL!!!
My list: U2, Springsteen, Steely Dan, REM, Bob Dylan, Journey, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Blink 182, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, The Doors, The Sex Pistols, The Dave Matthews Band, Maroon 5, & any death metal band.
Right then, no Dio?
Agreed except for The Doors. The rest of the list I would also name each.
Agree, except Springsteen and Doors
The Doors were a fine psychedelic rock band - I have about a dozen of their songs on regular rotation in my playlist, and i've been hearing their music since I was a toddler in the '70s, they never seem to get old for me. I love death metal, too - lots of splendid stuff going on there, especially in some of those Florida acts (once you get over the vocals, Obituary has some damned heavy and crunchy riffs that are the equal of almost anything else in hard rock and heavy metal), and the melodic stuff that started appearing in places like Sweden, Finland, and Norway back in the '80s (the likes of Entombed, Dismember, At the Gates, Therion, Amorphis, Cemetary, and Tiamat could get rather beautiful!)
I couldn't really complain about most of the rest of that list, though - could just be a matter of taste, but especially the likes of Springsteen, Dylan, Pearl Jam, Blink 182, Dave Matthews, and U2 do little or nothing for me. For example, with Sprinsteen, U2, or Bob Dylan, I feel like hearing their most famous songs once was pretty much all I needed, and anything after that is overkill. They don't replay well, at least in my book, and their deeper cuts did nothing for me.
I suspect that Nine Inch Nails might grow on me if I gave them a chance: I loved their ambient soundtrack for the old Quake video game. And I rather liked Nirvana's unplugged album - most of those songs are on regular rotation in my playlist, even though I don't own anything else by Nirvana, and don't care to bother with almost any other grunge band.
I'm not a fan of Marilyn Manson or The Sex Pistols at all, but I guess I can understand why their fans like them: I think I'd sooner roll with a proper electronic/industrial gothic metal act (say, Samael or Mortiis Era II) or The Ramones, though.
REM and Journey are tough ones for me to judge: I've heard a song or two by REM that seem enjoyable enough, and one or two that irritate me, but it's not my style of music, and just not something I could get into... where REM works, I can appreciate that they work, but otherwise.... And, much the same with Journey: I've heard three or four songs from them that I like well enough, but it's just not close enough to my style for me to bother giving them any more effort than turning up the occasional hit when I'm forced to listen to the radio on a long car trip. I just don't have any interest in exploring their back catalogs at all. Still, it seems to me that a good Journey or REM song is probably better than anything else I'm likely to hear on the radio (and even then, I'll sooner take The Doors or my favorite death metal bands any day!)
Agreed, except for Nine Inch Nails, Doors, Manson and what you described as "any death metal band". I wouldn't change the rest of your list.
A guy I worked with once described Axel rose as Janis Joplin if she couldn't sing
I'm a big Axel fan but that's funny.
Awesome!!!
Being a music obsessed teenager in the 70’s I was there when Kiss Alive was all the rage. I was originally a huge Beatles\Stones\Kinks fan and later I was into Zeppelin, Yes, Deep Purple, and Jethro Tull. A friend lent me Kiss Alive and I was underwhelmed. The songs were weak and the vocals were poor. It seemed that the make up and hype were a huge part of the appeal.
I think the feeling WASP has been underrated fuels the requests for them.
A band I never got was Kiss. Yeah, they are adequate musicians, but their albums are very average hard rock. without their make-up and stage dramatics they would never have been noticed.
Yeah, they're the perfect example of a band in this category.
I agree 100% !!!
Absolutely agree. Their music was pretty average at best. A few catchy party songs but other than that it was just the costumes, stage show and hype.
Totally agree 👍
I've thought about this a lot because I hear what you're hearing. All I can come up with is that you had to be there and buy into the horror imagery and dramatics. It probably helped to be a teenage boy in the '70s.
After Dio was booted from Rainbow he started a band with a couple of guys from Elf and a couple of the guys from Little Feat.....then he was asked to join Sabbath.
Would have been interesting to hear those songs.
Did with part of Little Feat?!? On the surface, that just sounds totally odd.
They should have names their band Little Elf Feat.
I'll see myself out now. Sorry bout that.
Wasp is still releasing albums just as good today as the 80s there like the harder hair bands u should try and give them another try wasp is still popular but no commercial play ...
W.A.S.P. were always legendary to me ☹️.
I love Patti Smith's "Horses" (especially), "Easter" and "Dream of Life". Dang - Prince, Big Star, Wilco, The Band and Dylan - whoa - those are crucial acts for me. Oh well, to each their own. Interesting discussion overall though. I love the way Martin says "draaama" too instead of drah-ma like we do down here below the 49th parallel.
Patti does a great cover of Smell's Like Teen Spirit.
I'm glad Radiohead got mentioned.
Me too. Can't stand them. That said, I think Jonny Greenwood is an amazing musician and his film scores are fantastic.
Ive tried with radiohead. And good god stop comparing them to pink floyd!
Yeah I don't get them either. Foo fighters can go away too
A lot of Metal heads love them...Hammet, Ulrich, Anselmo...
Yes agree 100%. Ive tried with Radiohead.
Wondering how many of us agree about Bon Jovi. Thank you Martin.
Have to agree with Bon Jovi, Talking Heads. I never understood their popularity. Some bands I'd add would be The Clash, Radiohead and Pantera.
Pantera? Cmon bro... not even one album?
Pantera??????
Talking Heads were a fantastic band that wrote amazing music. Not all of it, but at least half of it was genius. You have to witness them live to really appreciate their greatness. Fear of Music and Speaking in Tongues, and especially Remain in Light are magnificent albums.
Patti Smith was punk before there was punk. Easter, Horses and Radio Ethiopia are splendid albums. I also like Dream of Life a lot.
I go as far as Remain In Light with Talking Heads. It's a mixed bag after. Brilliant band, though. That Martin Popoff would a game changer like Patti Smith's Horses "soft" is beyond. Fine. It's his taste..
@@stuartfishman1044 The guy likes the Abacab period better than earlier Genesis, so his taste is suspect to begin with.
Talking Heads are definitely a band to see live to really appreciate. Their first three albums ( Talking Heads '77, More Songs..., Fear of Music) are my personal favorites.
Talking Heads are in my top 10 for sure. For some reason I like the music critics of the 70# and 80s tended to like. I guess it boils down to what you think about punk rock. These 2 guys although very nice and God bless them. They just seam like musical bone heads. Everyone has their own taste. I'd like to have a beer w these two guys for sure.
I must be a bone head, too. I'm not into The Talking heads. Nothing against them. Great songwriting but that doesn't mean I like the music. Same as Queen. The masses love Queen--I'm not into anything they've done-- even pre A Night at the Opera stuff. Back to New wave: I do like a lot of ; New Wave and some punk; but Talking Heads aren't punk. I'm just not into their style. Rush fans seem to be the most immature when one criticizes them. You're not at that point but you're almost there. @@bhdctn
I respect Pete being honest. Could have easily caved with London Calling because Martin and Portnoy push it. This is how you can truly trust the content.
I like that we are getting different perspectives on the show. My taste is definitely more in line with Martin. :)
Yes, respect to Pete for trying. I do not love the voice of Joe or Paul. But the album is great. "Hateful" is so powerful, "The Card Cheat" - heartbreaking somehow. The melodies get stuck in your head for weeks. But well - we are all different.
All I know is whenever I see people write " The only band that matters "..I just think, wow, that is why I cancelled my subscription to Rolling Stone..The magazine that panned Rush .. Not just panned them, but pretty much ignored them ..Yet ,claimed that every band that nobody cares about is so fucking great..It is, and always has been a trendy ,snobby piece of shit rag, that is not even worthy of the bottom of the birdcage..
@@kiplambert64 Let's remain civil. We are all rock fans in the end. It's all about having fun, as we have so much more in common. And small differences in taste is just a feature, not a bug. No amount of cursing can take away what we love. Unless, of course, fighting about taste or the need to belong to a certain "tribe" is a way of life. I hope not.
P.S. Both Rush and Clash are great in my eyes :) Love this show in any case.
And very often liking or disliking something is whether we allow ourselves the feeling of liking. Sometimes the walls in our heads are psychological, more than we even admit it ourselves. It's much more than music itself.
Top 5.
1. Bob Dylan
2. Bob Dylan
3. Bob Dylan
4. Bob Dylan
5. The Clash
Foo Fighter sounds like very corporate rock, something made for the industry. My opinion
So true! Bland, tasteless, soulless, lifeless, etc. The soundtrack of purgatory.
Foo Fighters arent the heaviest band on the planet as well as Ghost, but they make rock, regardless you like their music or not.
The punk ethos of the band wore off fairly quickly. I saw them a few years back and left after 3 songs, which took them 20 minutes to play.
Foo Fighters are so boring I wouldn't even trouble myself to put them on the show.
@@MrCalmao Foo Fighters make rock the same way McDonalds makes food.
Pete, I think you'd actually dig WASP's The Headless Children if you revisited it.
Since Ken Hensley played on it
My favorite album by them.
Absolutely. That is a great album, beginning to end.
"Headless Children" and "Live...In the Raw" are solid albums.
The fact that Bon Jovi is in the hall of fame is a real joke.
The hall of fame is a joke in itself, don't pay too much attention to it. It's irrelevant.
Especially when bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest aren't.
Pete, you're right, the Clash are overrated. I never got it. To those who like it, rock on!
Will do! 🤘😎🤘
The Clash are way too cheesy for me. Definitely overrated.
For me it's one of Pete's favorites: Dream Theater.
Me too can't stand the vocals, same with Rush and others.
The same. The guys in the band all seem like good guys with good taste and I like Mike's tribute side projects but Dream Theater's music just doesn't click with me.
@@leonardspinazzola6714 Rush vocals are shite.
That's the one 😅
Yep! Same here.
I would like to thank you for introducing me to MAGMA. When you mentioned them, I paused your video and have been hooked on them ever since. Can't get enough! I will continue watching the rest of your list soon for other great bands you guys can't get into. hahaha! :)
I knew it. I knew some people would discover Magma with this very show and that, amongst them, some would first be intrigued before falling for the amazing uniqueness of their music.
Alright I’m going to give it a try
@@kevinismawayoflife4660
One of the problems with Magma is that Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh is broadly considered as their signature album. Well..., happens to be one or the one I never got into. Beginners never should start discovering the Magma discography with MDC. Try the easier ones : Attahk and Merci. Although the latter one is more of an Offering album than it is a Magma's.
@@h.m.7218 I started with that live video that has Zombies as the second song. The first song just rolls into the second one. I have listened to that whole thing at least 10 times now. It's become Sacred Music to me now. Who are these Gods? lol!
Too funny!! Here they are, dogging bands and inadvertently turning people on to those very bands. Glad you discovered Magma. They're FANTASTIC....GENIUS!!
The productions are not great on Talking Heads albums? That’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard here lol. The production on their albums is some of the best, especially “Remain In Light”.
I don't get the comments about Talking Heads either. Unique band.
Yeah sometimes you just need to say "I dont like this band" and not try to find some technical reason to bolster your opinion. Especially if you love throwaway disposable music like the Ramones. And hair metal.
@@charlesrambeau519 I like The Ramones and The Dickies too, but they are not even in the same league as Talking Heads, all 4 of them are great musicians and Byrne was a great frontman, Pete’s reason for not liking them beyond their hits is precisely why I like them, being weird is what made them stand out amongst all the other stuff at the time, they certainly weren’t conventional and their weirdness wasn’t forced weirdness, it was genuine, they came up through the NYC music scene and played at CBGB’s often as did Blondie neither band were punk bands, they were doing their own things. Talking Heads experimented with different sounds on each album and each album is different from the other, that’s also what makes them such a great band. Funny too Pete doesn’t like “London Calling” by The Clash either. He’s just not a punk/post punk guy, but “London Calling” is probably The Clash’s most diverse album. I don’t like a lot of metal bands and some classic rock bands covered here either, I’ve never been a metal head, I find the music just meh, the singers pretty much sound the same to me as do the guitar tones, no connection to it. Nothing really stands out. Metal is just an old worn out genre, it has nothing else to offer. Talking Heads were a breath of fresh air during their heyday.
I always thought Talking Heads were a band for weirdos. And I was right 👍
@@robertpottle2887 that’s a compliment. 😊
"They were from out East which was weird!" *looks at Pete*. - Well played Martin, haha.
Lol
I find I like bob Dylan songs when they’re being done by other artists. His voice just kills any good vibes for me. I can’t get past it
Same here Al. His voice to me is like finger nails on a chalk board. It actually makes me cringe.
Agreed! I am also turned off by the fact that I can't point out that the cult of Dylan makes it hard to say I think he's an overrated nasally bore without being accused of trying to be arch and iconoclastic for effect.
I am not. The Emperor wears no clothes as far as I'm concerned, and half the fawning fans who accuse me of heresy are simply jumping on the received wisdom bandwagon.
@@emdiar6588 LOL. Well said. I never could wrap my head around this cult following of his. They have him up there with Jefferson starship, Hendrix etc, I don't think so.
I love him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
@@briandarazs6620 I assure you, Dylan is more iconic and important than Starship.
For me it's Queen- Brian is a great guitar player, Freddy is an incredible singer, but their music is like a collection of novelty songs. I love a few of their songs, but overall the overblown pretentious arrangements suck. I agree about London calling- absolutely killer song, totally flat album.
'A collection of novelty songs' is a good way to put it!
Yep. I never cared much for Queen and don't like their status as one of the best bands, their fans really overrate their music all the time. A song here and there, never full albums and "under pressure" is just lame to me which no one seems to think so.
yep agree about Queen, neva got them
First 4 Queen are super killer!
I can't stand queen , i've never liked anything they did . The absolute worst band ever for me ,sorry!
Like Martin said towards the end, the reason the first two Pretenders albums sound different/better is that they were the only two real Pretenders albums. James Honeyman-Scott and Pete Farndon both died prior to the third album, so they've all been pretty much Chrissie Hynde solo albums since then.
Right! And I know this shouldn't matter, but listening to Chrissie in an interview is about as fun as watching paint dry. She has this very off-putting, marble-mouth, faint English accent thing going on which comes off phony ( yes, I know she lived there briefly...) with NOTHING interesting to say which doesn't speak very well of her persona, off-stage.
Sorry but Martin Chambers is a great drummer with a very unique style. So you are wrong IMO.
Only thing is, after their deaths, I thought she assembled a pretty damn good band for Learning To Crawl and all the subsequent albums.
Yes David L, a very good band was assembled for Learning to Crawl and I think it's really an exceptional album. I would probably argue it's better than II, however i do think those first 2 albums had such a unique, particular sound that was the result of Farndon and especially Honeyman-Scott's brilliant, idiosyncratic guitar playing.
Bands I'll never get_ The Clash,Radiohead,Nickelback. How they've had such success and popularity beats me completely
I like some Radiohead but KID A tried but could not get into it The Pyramid song is one of my all time favorite songs.
Dave Matthews Band is on the top of my list. Finger nails on a chalk board sounds better.
Believe it or not, but here in Europe, nobody knows Dave Matthews Band. I gave a chance to this band 20 years ago with 2 of their albums, but it wasn't for me, so I gave up.
All my friends liked them. I felt like a turd in a punch bowl, but I could never get them.
Yeah they suck. Bumper sticker on my eyes D.u.M.B.
I saw them a bunch of times live, or maybe it was just one time and it felt like it would never end. A chick dragged me there against my will, actually it was in a big music fest.
One song was good: a Pink Floyd cover from Dark Side with pedal steel, in a spectacular atmospheric venue.
I didn't think much of the Talking Heads until I saw the concert movie Stop Making Sense, which made me a fan. Brilliant performance that made me realize how catchy and funky their music is.
I credit Bernie Worrell and the energy that the two backup singers.
My older brother rented it when I was 13. Turned me into an instant super fan. Ended up buying all their LPs.
They were coked up af
Watch their 1980 Rome concert on TH-cam if you haven't seen it.
@@DMTsmoke That Rome concert is legend.
The Band…. You hear the first minute and a half of any of their songs, you’ve heard everything.
Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, most of Nirvana come to mind immediately.
I'm a foo fighters guy..lol
I fell asleep during 10 lol
Yes, Yes, and Yes. Never saw what was so great about Nirvana.
@@tarkus522 i actually like them - never loved em - get your point tho - a little overrated maybe
You are 100% spot on, cudn't agree more, theyre rubbish pure and simple
There's also a lot of us who only like the first three Journey albums.
4 if you include Captured. I always assumed that every serious music critic felt the same way. Escape is listenable and has a few good tracks; stoned in love and mother, father are good, but yea totally with you. Now I am assuming you mean the first 3 with Perry which was technically Journey's 4-6th. Journey sweet spot is Infinity, Evolution and Departure. Are those the ones you meant?
@@maximuskhan2100 No, I meant the first three, Journey, Look Into The Future and Next. To me, they went from prog to pop when Perry joied the band.
@@neuropete1 You're better off sticking with the ballads then.
@@mattmiller2761 I've listened to either "Journey" or "Look Into the Future" and would've never known it was Journey. Jazz-like in spots, IIRC. Same with the earliest Scorpions stuff. Rather like both of them BECAUSE they were so different from the sounds that made both groups famous.
"Steve Perry is a novelty voice". Yup. A "male diva", as he's been described. He makes a fine contrast to Gregg Rollie on "Feeling That Way" or "Anytime", but I can't take it all day long.
Also Steve Smith has to be the most simplistic, boring drummer ever. If they'd kept Dunbar, it would have been different.
King's X has never disappointed. I've been into them since Gretchen. Worth the listen IMO.
They're good but I don't think that they have wide appeal like many claim, I view them as an acquired taste.
@@mck7646 True. I remember one time when the guitarist was pushing back on a fan who was complaining that the record company wasn't supporting their latest album (Faith Hope Love). Sometimes it's not the right time or the right sound. I still love these guys, regardless.
Can I just say *this* is how you do a music channel. So much great content!
In the Court of the Wenton King is great too
I love how Pete's dog growls when he's dissing on London Calling XD
I like most of the videos that Pete puts out on this channel, but he has a definite dislike for punk/new wave music. I don't like all of it, of course, but still, some great music came out of those years (including London Calling).
@@comicbookcountdown9252 A lot of punk (and near punk) music gets really repetitive and simplistic. There's just not much going in terms of musical complexity or emotional range. New Wave, on the other hand, was much more musically dynamic and less stylistically limited than punk.
@@comicbookcountdown9252 He doesn't like the silliness either. The Clash are too goofy for him.
I don’t think it needed to be a double album, but there’s enough good songs on there for one solid all killer no filler album
Proof that Pete's dog doesn't know what he's "talking" about!
I thought Magma was a joke, but then it freaking grew on me.
It's not for everyone.
It's not for most people.
My list was easy and just don't get any of these widely well liked bands. I've tried. In no particular order.
-The Rolling Stones
-The Grateful Dead
-Rival Sons
-Tool
-The Misfits
-Bob Dylan
The Dead cover an awful lot of ground. There is something in their discography for just about everyone. Ultimately the Garcia/Hunter songwriting partnership will be recognised as having the greatest American songwriting catalogue of the second half of the 20th century.
I agree with the Stones and the Dead
I also can't get the Clash. I can't get U2, Nirvana, Cold Play, Dave Matthews, Stones after the early 70s just to name a few.
Ugh dave Matthews always sounded like he had twisted testicles
I'm with you on all of them.I like Stones up until about '74 and then it's over.U2 and Pearl Jam are similar in that, if they both didn't have their frontman,they would have never went anywhere, yet both Bono and Eddy can annoy the hell out of me.
I liked a lot of the '60s "British Invasion" hard rock bands - grew up with my parents listening to them a lot - but I have to agree on the Stones: I liked a couple of their songs, but mostly found them off-putting for some reason. Give me the Kinks, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, the Moody Blues, and I'm happy, but the Rolling Stones will have me hovering over the skip button every time....
OMG ripping into Talking Heads! So funny. I LOVE Talking Heads very much and I listen to all the obscure bits and pieces, so I actually enjoyed hearing them get torn to pieces. Really refreshing to hear this take! Appreciate the honesty. For me it's all about the different grooves they built up in the late 70s and then that spectacular big band in the Stop Making Sense show.
Stop Making Sense is insane. And let's remember that Adrian Belew was a touring member around the Remain In Light era, along w/ Bernie Worrel from P-Funk.
@@hunterthompson2206 The Great Curve is an awesome song....especially live.
@@jamesdykes2968My all time fave of theirs and one of my fave songs of the 80s
Bon Jovi was always just a pop band to me, wasn't even meant to be taken serious. Totally agree about Springsteen, I admire him as a writer and performer but can't wrap my head around the hero worship his fans have for him
Bon Jovi was a cash cow promoted big time by their record label. Jon Bon Jovi was the pretty boy that they sold like corn flakes. A girl once told me she loved the band "because I love the singer's hair!" 🤢
I agree on both . Never got either of them . Springsteen always came off as a phony to me . Great band but he just rubs me the wrong way .
@@ceecoursian
A woman I went out with asked me if I liked Springsteen. I told her "he's ok I guess." She asked me why I was so indifferent. I replied, "well I guess I might be a fan if I knew what he was saying, but when he sings it sounds like he's mumbling." She didn't appreciate my answer. 🙄
Kinda silly to blame Jon for looking better than you guys. :lol:
DANCING BAREFOOT is song by Patti Smith. It is so good that i don't mind if all the other songs she recorded sound like radio static
That is an excellent song!
Great show and some interesting points. Poison, Springsteen and the Dead would be at the top of my list.
Martin seemed shocked that The Clash were mentioned. I totally agree, I don't even like London Calling or anything by The Clash. The one band that was not mentioned was U2. I know hate is a strong word, but I hate U2!
I can't stand the clash. Just constipated singing.
Totally agree on U2.
U2 lmao
Martin is right on with the timing/"had to be there" comment. Trying to access some in the past or some after your musical prime/wheelhouse is often not going to work.
kudos to pete for taking the time to listen to london calling. It sounds like he gave it more than a few spins. To me what makes that album great in particular is how eclectic the influences are. I think the primary influences on the album are: 50's rockabilly and early rock and roll, 50's r&b and maybe 60's/70's soul, classic era reggae, first generation punk and post-punk. I happen to love all those genres so it makes sense i would cotton to said album. I also really enjoy Strummer's voice, however unorthodox it is, and the political, rebellious lyrics of the songs.
Any grunge that isn’t Soundgarden or Alice In Chains. In fact, I know that they are considered grunge, but they will always be just 90s hard rock to me. Aside from a couple of their hits, I never understood why they were considered grunge.
I don't even think of those two as grunge. I think they just broke right around that time and being from the Northwest they were lumped in with the rest. and those two are the ones that I still go back to today. Forget the rest.
Agreed outshines a example hard rock to me metal not grunge
@@lordtazzman3140 I tell people that all the time! But they don’t want to hear it; they will never know just how hard those two rock out!
@@nelsonmaud1 BadMotorFinger as a whole is a great example. Outshined is definitely a highlight!
I like them the best too. Also i dig Stone Temple Pilots. But Pearl Jam and Nirvana not so much.
So musically oriented we all are.
Sea of Tranquility rules on all the aspects of keeping us that way ..TY Pete!
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Bon Jovi isn't a band...it's Jon Bon with employees. Funny thing is that Blaze of Glory soundtrack is somewhat of a measterpiece as soundtracks go, I think. Later Bon Jovi sounds like Bruce Springsteen or something, another artist I can see why people worship, I never did...
Franky Valley, Bruce Springsteen, and John Bon Jovi. New Joysey singers giv wuv a bwad name.
Was a bit bummed that Martin doesn't like Talking Heads, but to each their own!
Each to there own Mark indeed I love early Talking Heads and a lot of US new wave Television Marquee Moon one of my top 10 favourite albums behind Heaven and Hell and Back in Black.
@Catharsis I agree their early work is their best, but Speaking In Tongues, and everything after, all have their fair share of highlights.
Cant stand Talking Heads,Byrne irritates the hell outta me. As far as Television,brilliant band,Marquee Moon in my top 10 of all time.
I wonder if he's ever seen "Stop Making Sense"
Their first two albums are fantastic! My favorite songs of theirs are not on the best-of albums.
"As for Guns n' Roses: One great album does not a great band make" - Yoda
... and then Estranged and November Rain are their 2 greatest songs... from different albums ;-)
Three great albums
@@jonnuanez2843 lol
I know gnr lies is two eps but doesn’t that equal an album?
@@jonnuanez2843 One great song does not a great album make
Awesome, brave, informative, provocative and funny content you guys! Keep up the good work!
Brave? C'mon.
@@saint.vitus.7775 you have a point there. Not brave really because of the hot takes being a thing to provoke comments but I do think that there are definitely so many records that are held up as classics that to my ears just do not merit the popular acclaim. Then again, I'm a person who thought the Screaming Trees record Invisible Lantern or Thin White Rope's Moonhead should be known by all and revered.
I figured Pete Pardo would like some Talking heads, because I’m pretty sure he’s a fan of King Crimson. Some crossover there. Especially with Remain in Light
The first 5 Wasp albums are badass! Like you said though Pete,You can't like everything. 🙂
Hell ya..also love Blackies voice and songwriting
The thing is that Americans like Pete don't have much love for WASP and they think the same is in other countries too.There are bands that are loved in America and we don't care at all here in Europe.By the way musical taste is very subjective and relevant.The only thing is right about are their unimpressive lives
@@evitainvictusperone9360 u may have a point .i live in east coast Canada and me and my buddys all love WASP
@@bubbadagger Here in Greece their lives are sold out everytime they have played although they shouldn't.(.not great live anymore)When I go to rock bars here it is one of the bands that get quite frequent play by djs along with maiden priest scorpions whitesnake and Manowar.Manowar are not American favourites either(though Americans) but here in Greece and Europe they headlined festivals with thousands.
@@bubbadagger I've always loved Blackies voice too. It's unique. Nobody sounds like him and it fits the music extremely well.
WASP has always been one of my favorite bands. Live at the Lyceum is a fantastic concert video. Golgotha is a recent great album. No one can like everything. You have turned me on to a lot of great stuff.
I think when he says I never really got it sums it up. Nobody gets everything.
John Von Blow me, Springsteen, Foo Fighters, U2, GNR, DMB.
foo fighters - dave is cool. the music just doesnt appeal to me
100%. I can’t get into it.
I liked them in middle school. The album "There is nothing left to lose" is a genuine good listen. Don't listen to them at all anymore though, they're just too mild and corporate for me. They get more overblown with every release. The fact that Dave is some sort of industry spokesperson is kinda funny to me and slightly annoying.
Dave isn't that cool otherwise I agree
This was great. Next one..bands we changed our mind on .
Great idea! For me, it's Tesla and Depeche Mode.
My picks: Radiohead, Coldplay, R.E.M, Laurie Anderson, Nirvana, Springsteen, Smashing Pumpkins.
Everybody: How come you don't like Bon Jovi? Me: Only on Pizza.
Remember when Mary Tyler Moore (RIP) said she liked them, and Wayne and Garth said, "They're bogi."
Quite a few bands satisfy this criteria for me. Nirvana, Radiohead, Coldplay, U2, Aerosmith, GnR, Oasis, just to name a few.
I can’t speak on Radiohead, don’t know enough about their music; otherwise, I am with you almost 100%. They are all overrated, especially U2, though do enjoy 3 of their albums, War, Unforgettable Fire, and Achtung Baby
You had me at Aerosmith.
In my early radio dj days the Program Director asked me to listen to two songs that he was considering adding to our rotation that week. One was "Runaway" by Bon Jovi and the other was "Balls To The Wall" by Accept. Both bands were unknown and I reported back to him the next day that Accept was awesome! I said the Bon Jovi song was ok but I would vote for Accept. However, regarding Bon Jovi, I added "This guy is going to be huge!"
I saw Bon Jovi open for Kiss in 1984, seeing them then I never would've thought they'd ever get anywhere with that weird punk/rock image they had early on, like when Hollywood depicted street gangs or rock bands in the '80s it never looked like the real thing. Incidentally, saw Helix open for Kiss the year before and thought they might get real big but that didn't quite happen, I liked them well enough to get their excellent No Rest for the Wicked album.
Remain in Light ( Talking Heads ) - with Eno production is one of best albums ever .
Agreed. If you haven't heard this album, then you really haven't heard the Talking Heads.
I prefer Speaking in Tongues.
I still prefer Fear of Music. Song-wise and performance is unbelievable. That said I'll take the 1980 version of the band live over 1979 any day.
Nope. A bunch of weird noise is all.
@The Rain First side of album is revolution , side Two is hits . On first side we had such fire bland of rhythms in " Born under Punches " , Crosseyed and Painless and final song is " Great Curve " . Side B is good but catch is in side A .
The term "Avocado Mafia" made me laugh out loud--I'm not on board with it either and that was damned brilliant!
Wow. Martin listens to albums that he doesn’t like 15 or 20 times. LOL. I don’t think I have listened to my favorite albums 15 or 20 times.
Thats What Gives Martin Credibility in His Opinions & His writings. His opinions Carry weight because there not Just Dismissive. He is A Professional, Not an Authority. Were Lucky to Have him Commenting with Pete & SOT...
@@spaghetti.lee-69 i very rarely agree with him though
@@cleftturnip7774 and that's ok! It makes things interesting.
@@Trifixion22 for sure
I dont always agree with Martin but I respect his opinions. Same with Pete.
The Talking Heads pick surprised me. I thought Martin Popoff would love them, I guess that was the whole critics loving them thing he mentioned. I do like them (I think the albums Fear of Music, Songs about Buildings and Food; and Little Creatures are really good). I do find the funk/world music thing on Remain in Light and Speaking in Tongues harder to get into.
I didn't get Martin's 'children's music' perception or that they sound stale and too mellow - listen to songs like The Overload, Drugs or Artists Only. Talking Heads can sound sinister and very atmospheric.
Well, as Pete says, we all hear music differently.
I like Talking Heads, but I guess they're not for everyone. Their music was minimalist, which I think was supposed to be a reaction to how everything else was Big & Bombastic during the same time period. Sort of the Nirvana-Grunge of the era.
Jimmy the Vampire I'd say the whole Fear of Music album is sinister and atmospheric.................easily their darkest record.
There’s 3 that immediately come to mind that I wouldn’t say are bad bands but just don’t do anything for me for some reason, Def Leppard, Tool and Five Finger Death Punch.
I absolutely do have a soft spot for the Cars though! They were unique sound to me,,, very creative sound also...
But the Cars do not belong in Pete and Martin's preferred genre, so I wonder why they were even mentioned. Same with Patti Smith, John Prine, Bob Dylan, the Eagles, Pretenders, the Clash etc etc.
If you were in your late teens or early 20's when the first couple of W.A.S.P. came out you knew the party had really started when it turned midnight and they hit the turntable. Then you get older and move on but those 2 albums still have a place in my collection.
You better believe it! Saw their first tour concert with Matallica & Armored Saint! Still love the first album!
Brian Adams
What a line up man.
Saw them in Santa Barbara and they were good.
Saw them with Maiden and enjoyed them.
I always thought WASP was better live than what they captured on record.
The band for me that TONS of people love and I can't stand is Nirvana. I'm open to lots of different kinds of music, but I just don't get all the love for them.
Like the hits, zero interest in the deep cuts.
Did we have to be on valium to enjoy them? 😂. I kid! I'm 41 years old and all my grade school friends LOVED Nirvana. I hated it. Is that band a "set and setting" type of band?
WASP was the most popular metal band ever in Estonia 1986 - - 87. There were WASP graffities everywhere.
@margus kiis Oh sa poiss! 😶Vana hea Jon bon Jovi tegi platsi puhtaks suurel Venemaal. Aga karmuse poolest jäävad nad alati alla Blackie Lawless'ile ja tema bändile.
@@karlkrier1314 Bon Jovit näidati palju 1986 -- 87 telesaates "Noortestuudio Pärastlõuna". Vaatasin nime Bon Jovi, mõtlesin et nad on saksa bänd, Bonni linnast.
Even more than Aria?! But, maybe they were only popular in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus?
@@erikstorm8935 Estonians praised only some Russian bands, others were despised as tasteless and dumb. Kruiz and Korrozia Metalla were accepted in Estonia, others not much.
Question remains, which one made it first, WASP or this Estonian new wave band th-cam.com/video/SpoyOPLoePA/w-d-xo.html
Music isn't always meant to be art. Some bands are meant to be the "fast food" of the music world, and I'm fine with that. Horses for courses.
Great comment. With your analogy in mind, I offer:
Dream Theater, Nightwish = Fine dining
Maiden, Priest, Scorpions = Affordable steakhouse food
Early Van Halen = A great flavorful pizza, full of fresh toppings
KISS, Nugent, Aerosmith = french fries (steak fries, crinkle cut, tots, etc)
Motley Crap, Poison, Cinderella, Bon Jovi = stale generic potato chips
@@dvg4104 I prefer the stale potato chips over the fries in this case lol 😂
@@televisedpork7993 I'm with you on this one, except 70's Aerosmith. Kiss and Nugent, pass for me.
@@televisedpork7993 -- To each his own, amigo. :-)
@@dvg4104 I think I just lost my appetite. 😄
WASP have some very good material: the debut, Headless Children and The Crimson Idol.
I'd take them over lame Motley Crue anytime.
The Headless Children kicks ass.
Glad you mentioned Foo Fighters. Never understood the reason for its existence.
I think Dave Grohl is a cool guy but I have no idea why so many people like The Foo Fighters.
Their new album is so tasty
Fighting Foo?
They're one of those bands that I like but I would never buy any of their stuff. They're too hit and miss for me, overall.
He needs to do another Pro-bot album.