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Can you talk about syco and modest management and everything related because Ik they are bad but not sure on all the details so I would love to be informed on them!
I think your distinction between being on stan twitter first and paving the way for the culture of stans is so important. directioners didn’t invent stan twitter at all but they did impact it heavily and that was really well explained in this
Isnt it weird how teenage girls and their interests are looked down upon and made fun of through out society yet they’re the ones who arguably make the biggest impacts on how our society moves culturally. Such a weird phenomenon.
@@nai.mp4536 she used to have a channel called “hey angel” that she posted videos just about one direction and their solo careers but she decided to stop posting on the channel 😭
the fact that you’re able to be funny and show your personality while still being so informed and relaying good info is amazing you’re going to be great at music commentary
Two things 1. thank you for acknowledging the the LGBTQIA+ influence and the BIPOC influence on Stan Twitter and Stan culture, I hadn’t even thought about that before and it was very enlightening 2. I would love to see a video on fanfic. As a reader I’ve done a lot of research on various people’s opinions on the ethical side of it. I would love to hear you opinions and facts on it. This video was so detailed and interesting. Another great, informative video, thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
when you talked about feeling guilty because you can't be on stan twitter i felt that 😅 i literally went off all my socials bc of my mental health for two months one time and like 40 people unfollowed me just because i missed some stuff. after that my mental health got even worse because i felt like i HAD to be on twitter all the time
ikr same, a few months ago i took a break from twitter bc of my mental health for like two weeks and like 100+ ppl unfollowed me just bc i wasn’t on for two weeks- ppl just don’t understand that some ppl have a life outside of social media ig 😐🤚
iv'e been a swiftie for a few years (i only recently got on stan twitter like a year ago) and tbh i think the pandemic made stan twitter way way worse... one thing is that taylor used to make her little inside jokes with us on tumblr & twitter but now she barely even uses social media bc of all the hate shes gotten over the years. i can also say for sure that taylor def has a personal connection w her fans but i feel like stan twitter has kind of ruined it. she sends us gifts and letters, money, invites us to her house, her m&g's are free, i can go on (she obv cant do all that during the pandemic) but now swifties are one of the main fandoms on twitter that fight other fandoms and attack people for no reason. + its really sad honestly bc taylor wouldnt like that at all :/
honestly i think with stan twitter people have a whole perception that is is ALL toxic wherein it’s just whatever fandom you’re in, the louie side is fantastic (in my opinion) and there is little to no drama but when you start to lean to the one direction side and begin to cross the boundary it becomes more... distorted shall we say, different fandoms hold different opinions (of course) and express them in different ways (of course) but people need to realise it’s not the whole of stan twitter that’s toxic just, certain parties that ‘ruin’ it (shall we say)
@@darriancassidy2803 i’ve just said that? you’ve just reiterated what i’ve said in my comment but other words, i didn’t say i found it toxic if you’d look back at the comment, i said others found it toxic, and i am in the midst of watching the video now, i elected to comment before hand as it was my opinion and it still stands as jasmine holds the same one, and as i said before both you and jasmine said (practically) the same thing but with different words
Omg I’m a directioner and I really agree. Directioners can be really toxic. Also what the hell is with the Louies harries war?? Im a both and I feel stuck in the middle lmao
@@ell4332 Exactly, like yeah there’s a lot of toxicity in fandoms and stan twitter in general, but that doesn’t mean the WHOLE fandom is like that, esp with big fandoms, the bigger the fandom, the more toxic, it’s known, but that doesn’t mean the entire fandom is toxic, there’s bad apples in every bunch, and some fandoms are just bigger so have more bad apples🤷🏻♀️ sorry I kinda ranted a little too much maybe💀
@@fluffylouis454 i agree!! i am personally on stan twitter (i don’t know about you?) and due to being an ot5 i tend to merge into different sections and it annoys me that people have a flawed view of let’s say harries and harrie twitter when we’re not all like that, as i said in my other comment and as you said it can be literally 10 fans who ruin it for 10,000 they can give such a bad rep and it’s awful. following with your bad apple analogy that’s so true just think of it like an extended metaphor, stan twitter being the tree, the branches being the different fandoms and the apples being the fans, one bad apple ruins the bunch and i suppose it is what it is as we can’t do anything about it but it still pisses me off
@@ell4332 Exactly, I’m actually not on stan twitter, but I see how people generalize fandoms based on a few immature ones, and as a directioner for 7 years now, I’ve seen how toxic this fandom is, with fan wars, arguments, division between the fandom, etc...but that doesn’t mean that ALL directioners are toxic & act the same way, it’s a shame how these toxic stans ruin it for the entire fandom:/
Wow you’re really one of the only people that I can actually listen to speaking for 30+mins straight,you’re explaining everything so well and still add personality to it ,I love that
i was on 1d stan twitter for almost a year before i left bc i just couldn’t handle it anymore, i made so many amazing and nice friends on there and it was fun for the most part, but i was constantly seeing ppl who weren’t even in the 1d or solo 1d fandoms say terrible things about my favs and it just wasn’t good at all, and also everyone is so concerned and obsessed with the amount of streams on a song or the amount of stans an artist has and just doesn’t care about if a person is talented or anything that it just gets so exhausting having to deal with people like that and ruins the whole point of having a stan account tbh, like if you are only going to talk about a person that your account isn’t even for and say “ * blank * is such a flop they can’t even get on the charts while * their stan * is on the top of the charts” “imagine stanning * blank * couldn’t be me” “* blank * cant sing idk how they have fans honestly” it’s just makes no sense whatsoever and i don’t get how ppl think saying that stuff is ok, but honestly tho if it wasn’t for ppl who say rude stuff about other ppl for no reason i would probably still be on there bc it was genuinely so fun talking with ppl who have a common interest as me, and as i said before i made so many great friends while i was on there :)
@@kade6952 may sound cool but it's def not a good term.. it's basically a mix of stalker and fanatic...and Eminem coined that term way back in early 2000's addressing about his toxic followers by calling them stans 😂
you did a great job describing stan twitter! the anxiety and FOMO that came along with stan twitter is exactly why I stopped using stan twitter regularly :) it's also weird as a 23 year old who has been on stan twitter since 2011 but now feel out of place, since everyone else is so young.
I don't want to be that person, but I will probably come out as that person by this comment. Thank you for including kpop in this. As a kpop stan, it means so much.
omg of course! the kpop fandom is a huge, HUGE component of stan culture and fandom twitter, i want to make commentary videos about the hate and xenophobia people throw at them or something along those lines
@@jasminezade I would also love to see the video... It's just that there are these fan wars between directioners and ARMYs and people always compare One Direction with BTS spreading hate when it's just pathetic... As a directioner and army I would really like it if you could make a video addressing all the hate that these k-pop celebs receive. Plus since I love you so much and I watched all your videos on Hey Angel & Jazmine Zade I would really really appreciate it if you could do a sort of "Reacting to K-pop for the first time" kinda video...pretty please🥺 Anyways I love all your videos and you are literally the sole origin of my happiness cause it's always a good day when Jazmine posts!! Love ya💜💜💜💜
I just made a stan account about two weeks ago, and I've already seen/experienced most of what you covered in this video. I've had a lot of fun with quick updates, talking to mutuals, and gushing over the louis airport pics (still not over them) but I've also seen a lot more of the toxic side of the fandom and it scares me
now is my chance to say what I need to say: Stan Twitter makes me feel like home, like there's always someone. because of how many fandoms I'm in & how many people stan the celebrities I stan too. I legit met my girlfriend- well not on stan Twitter but through being a stan. can it be intense? yes absolutely. is it not easy to understand at times for people who aren't stans? totally. but is it a safe space for stans? YES. it's legit -besides all the hysteria- a home
Adding to the appreciation of Jas's recognition that much of "Stan language" came from the BIPOC community, especially the Black queer community, some further sociolinguistic reading about language and race and gender: Stephen Mann's (2011) "Drag Queens' Use of Language and the Performance of Blurred Gendered and Racial Identities." This is not at all a starting piece, there is so much other background info, but this is one piece I have really enjoyed from a linguistics course in university!
the way you talked about the pressure of constantly being on there and being shamed for leaving and actually having a life was something I wish I had heard when first joining. hopefully newer people can see this video and realize what I wish I had earlier, so thank you for this :)
@@-amel-9896 Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
I deactivated or left all of my fan accounts because of how toxic fandoms are. My ADHD blurs the lines between what’s nice and what’s not and I’ll end up commenting something hurtful without realizing it, thinking it’s an innocent opinion or comment. I’ve tried to get people to understand that and apologize but I’ve hurt a lot of people without meaning to so I just stepped away. It hurt me more than it was worth.
@@itzyyy6875 it's some kinda emotional syndrome...which has something to do with ur genes I suppose..idk much about it but I have hrd of it somewhere...u can always Google tho
just popping in to say how toxic stan twitter is. its the worst truly. fandom wars, being "cancelled", having drama with other people in your group chats or in "your side" of twitter, people priv quoting. It really builds up to become a massive source of anxiety, especially for me, because its fucking scary to wake up to a massive ratio and hundreds of dms telling you to d13 or something along those lines. I srsly hate stan twt, along with the things you said
I find cancel culture on Twitter to be quite ignorant. It’s educational values are lost when people are trending hashtags which put certain artists down or which are insulting. Why can’t an artist be held accountable for their actions without insults or cancelling them?? If you can have a conversation on their platform to make your point, that seems more efficient and effective to me. Otherwise, it begins to fall under the umbrella of toxicity. But it’s a culture that will just keep evolving and will continue to do so, so long as there’s this competition led marketing in the music industry.
personally i've been on the solo louis tomlinson side of stan twt for ages and i've experienced little to none toxicity coming from the people on there. everyone i've met is so nice and all they care about is supporting louis and showing their love for him. and also staying in their own lane without talking shit about other people's favs unprovoked which is so weird to see nowadays :( i wish all fandoms were that way so everyone can enjoy stan twt the way (or we) do
that's so true. i'm a kpop fan and also a directioner so on twt i see lots of stuff abt bts, stray kids, blackpink etc. and one direction and the thing i noticed immediately is that louis' fandom is so calm and almost never toxic. i wish kpop stan twt was like that lmao, there's so many fanwars but seeing the 1d/louis twt side on my tl is very refreshing
Yup, I definitely agree with you. The louies‘ side of twt is so calm and friendly! Ofc the directioner side of twt is friendly too but there’s a lot toxity in that fandom. I’m an ot5/ louie for almost a year and I was once canceled for using a non existent word but besides that I love to be on the louies‘ side so much bc it isn’t as much chaotic as the directioners‘ side tbh. I’m really glad, that my tl isn’t full of solo harries, who drag the louies down tbh. The thing, that surprised me was that there are people, who call themselves ot5s but hate Liam which I just don’t understand. I don’t want to only spread slander about stan twt, so there’s something positive about it, which is that the moots there are really friendly and take care of you a lot. Bc of stan twt I met my bsf, who’s also an ot5 and a Arinator (sorry if I wrote that wrong idk how they’re really called)!
So true! I’m an ot5 and in louis’ lane and therefore I see the most about him on my timeline and (solo) louies never shit on anyone, its so refreshing to see. Also niall girls are very unproblematic too. Niall and Louis girls are literally just vibing and supporting them
not even that fandoms themselves are toxic but on the individual level there’s a lot of need for validation and like trying to become moots w people who are more popular than you idk it fucks w ur mental health. I felt like no matter what I was always missing content and it was really draining and exhausting
as a 1D Stan this was so interesting to hear and tbh Stan twitter can be toxic as fuckkkk but I see how we didn’t start Stan twitter and it’s not just toxic but it can be and mentally draining it can be an amazing time too this video is important and helpful
Honestly many will say that armies are very toxic but I'm so proud of them cause they are one of the fandoms who are very aware and educated of what is happening around the world and they are the ones who constantly donates to what matters, so grateful for y'all!
@@MilaBelen theyhave apologized and reflected upon their mistakes , now lemme just bring out something idiotic or racist thing you did 7 /8 years ago and ask for apology constantly even though youve already apologized .that is the situation
@@MilaBelen as a black army this is simply not the case. We always acknowledge what they have done. The problem lies when people use these serious issues to create fanwars which not only downplays the situation but it also disregards the apologies they made and the actions they made that have proved us that they actually educated themselves on these issues and grew for the better.
@@khushipandit2719 RM didnt apologize actually, he didnt actually say sorry, armies will say their favs have learned but when other celebrities say something ignorant, armies will jump on the hate bandwagon, sounds quite hypocritical
can you please make a video talking about the whole #justicefor1dandlittlemix and #justiceforfifthharmony thing and jedward speaking out and just your whole opinion on what they said about the xfactor and louis unfollowing after
@@suditii whats with the aggression 😭 this is the point of commentary and discussion videos, to talk about and explore things going on such as mistreatment by a label. her making a vid about it obviously wouldnt “change” anything but it’d still be interesting and informative. literally relax
as a kpop stan who's been on kpop twitter for a bit, i'd say fancams and fan edits were separated for a while before they kind of became synonymous on twitter. fancams were videos filmed by fans at concerts and shows before becoming more mainstream within the industry (where broadcasting companies, i.e. mnet and kbs, started making more official "fancams" of kpop idol's performances, which is ironic as they were called fancams for the sole reason that they were filmed by fans, but now they're usually by these big companies.) those fancams are the vertical, longer videos of performances with very professional set ups and cameras. fan edits are a bit different. they were clips edited together, taken from vlogs, stages and other forms of content in general. i guess this are the videos with more resemblance to the vines that you mentioned. i don't know much about the fan edits outside of kpop twitter, but non-kpop fans probably started calling their own edits fancams because they're used for the same purpose as kpop fancams - to promote their faves and get people to watch their performances. but from what i've seen, non-kpop fancams/edits were different from kpop fancams and just adapted to being calls fancams through some weird evolution. now "fancam" is just a wider term for videos focusing on someone's faves in general, whether performances or movie scenes or vlogs and whatnot.
can we talk about how differently people react to actual (kpop) fancams versus western stan fan edits the amount of racist comments ive seen from random people when a fancam is posted is just awful
Hey, could you consider making a commentary vid on like closeting in The Industry, and what managements Can truly get away With sooo easily. It’s so horrible and i Think With all thats happening on Twitter right now it’s important
i LOVE this video. i was on stan twitter all of high school and i ended up deactivating around may of last year and it’s crazy how much it was affecting my mental health without realizing it. i was actually on tv show stan twitter and not music but i had mutuals that were involved in all kinds of different fandoms so i definitely saw what you talked about in this video. one of the funniest parts of music stan twitter to me was comparing charts. i don’t want to get all “not like other girls” here because i do love plenty of popular artists but as someone who does listen quite a few “underground” (like less than 30,000 monthly spotify listeners) artists, it was funny to see people care so much about popularity. just listen to the music, who cares how well it’s doing if YOU like it? i also was someone that was guilty of doing unfollow sprees like every other week just to keep that skinny ratio and it’s funny to look back and wonder why i cared so much about that.
Honestly stan culture is a huge part of why I left the directioner fandom. I mean, I didn't consciously unstan it just... faded out of my personality and it became more draining than uplifting and cool. I still listen to their music and solos too (and I'll scream my head off in joy if Larry finally comes out lol) but I just can't be bothered to be there for all the drama that's happening every single day.
i also think it's important to note the huge influence kpop twt has on stan twt. literally every edit trend or just trend in general starts in kpop twitter and ends up in all sides of stan twitter
the fomo rlly got me, like ive taken a couple of breaks (all of them being kind of big regarding period of time) but its like it literally took over my entire life. we stan jasmine for putting into words what we cannot ❤️💀
i’m so excited that you’re doing commentary style videos on here especially since they’re revolving around pop culture, that is like my favorite genre of video on youtube and i can’t wait to see what you bring to it 😄
This was so informative I wasn’t really on the internet that much until 2017 so I always wondered where fan edits and Stan culture came from. amazing video btw this deserves wayyyy more views
I left stan twitter at 19 yo, 4 years ago,, and gosh it turned out to be the best decision ive ever made lol now i have life outside the internet and made real-life friends, i have a variety of interests that go beyond a screen.. it’s weird i can’t really recall what it was like to live so tied to my online persona.. i don’t like to admit it but my mental health was as bad as it was bc of tw
your channel is so underrated this was one of the best/most informative videos i've seen in a while! your way of explaining things is just amazing and soooo entertaining 💕
as a young person who is interested in sociology and the music industry this was so interesting!! great work in edition too, also you are very articulate. congrats!
ahhhh wow i love how extensive your commentary is. also so grateful you included how much stan culture language comes from Black ppl! unrelated but my god the lyric drawings blasted me back to eighth grade lmao 2012 was a WACKY and wonderful time to be alive, on the internet (ahem, tumblr) and a directioner 😌😩
queen you literally just spilled and made me watch a half an hour video of you talking about stan Twitter like it was so informative you're the best youtuber to watch ily
I don't know why, but I'm so confused with twitter. I tried to go on it so often, because in so many fandoms it's just very famous, but I always give up. For me it's so chaotic. Tumblr the same for me. Maybe it's because I simply didn't grew up with those platforms, but with instagram and tik tok 🤷
Everytime I go on Twitter even to check something it gives me weird negative vibes.. it’s like every second I’m on there steals a bit of my soul. It just feels so awful on there and I can’t explain why..
You nailed everything on the head! I’ve been on stan Twitter for a long time and I’ve seen a lot but this video was very informative and fun especially to watch as a stan!! Keep pushing out this content!!!🤎
i was on kpop stan twt... and to summarize the experience, i ended up deleting the account before i had a year of having it due to insane stress and anxiety. the amount of people that will send you death threats bc you disagree with them on something is much more than what i’d like to think. don’t ever go on stan twt if you don’t have an acc now, i really hate the toxicity in there, it really isn’t hard to just learn to appreciate artists you don’t necessarily stan and be respectful pls😭 the people i followed and my mutuals were super nice but we also always knew what other were doing and that just ruins your day.
Honestly not actively being in the 1D fandom as in not being on Stan Twitter was the best decision I’ve ever made it feels nice to do things at my own pace and enjoy things by myself
I’m kinda used to Stan twt being toxic but something that very much aggravates is how dry some users are and the way ppl will get triggered at anything 😭😭💀
this is why i really don't like stan twitter anymore. back in the day it was so fun and i met so many friends and still friends with them but nowadays the app makes me anxious and it never feels like a safe place anymore. Its sad because it was such a big part of my teenage life too
This is so informative. I’ve been calling myself a stan without really knowing what it truly means. I’m not at all active on Twitter, I just created an account so I could follow Liam and get a notification when he posts. But the whole competitive thing is inevitable in for instance the one direction fandom, because the whole fandom’s split into solo stans. Yes, ‘directioners’ can be separate to solo stans, but there are so many factions it’s almost like the film ‘Divergent’.
was a part of stan twitter for a few years before realizing the mob mentality you talked! i think it definitely changes your outlook in life and makes you in this "alert" mode that i think it's not healthy irl. now i just use my acc to share fanart or original art XD great video as always !
I think there can be a side to Stan Twitter which can be toxic, however it’s also something really good that’s happened to me as I’ve met several new friends from all over the world. We are all in a group chat together so whenever someone drops new music or posts content we can Inform each other so we don’t miss anything but we can also focus on mental health and get enough sleep
unrelated, but omg she looks sooo cute, pretty, perfect georgeous, stunning- and all the other compliments you can think of on that pfp (she always looks beautiful but that pfp and this video tho- its just a whole other level)
one of the reasons i left stan twitter is the amount of hate (for no reason) artists get, like for example i love bts and the shit I read about them from people that doesn't even know them was INSANE, that was my breaking point and after like 8 years i left stan twitter because it became such an unbearable place, it's not fun at all anymore
I am on stan twitter and I agree with your points on it being toxic, but i think if you curate your time line and moderate your time on there it can be a really fun, healthy and supportive environment and experience. Because of this my overall experience on stan twitter (to be precise army twt) is pretty positive.
One Direction have honestly left a black hole in how toxic stan twitter could become, the level of parasocial relationships both the boys and the fans engaged in was honestly shambolic
i’d like to add something about why people on stan twt (and fandom ppl in general) are so defensive of their faves (and also hype them up often for sometimes very small things, however i don’t rly think that’s all that bad) - they’re taking things personally. being a fan of of a certain thing isn’t just you liking it, it’s you being part of a community (with a fandom name to identify you), and so your interest becomes a key part of your self-image. thus, it’s very easy to process hate or any kinda neg towards your face (including much needed criticism) as being also towards you and your sense of self. i really feel like a lot of overdefensive stan behaviour is an offshoot of self-defence? when i was really deep into bts, if i heard anyone say ‘i think their music sucks’ or smth like that i would emotionally process that as them saying they hated me, which makes no sense. it also doesn’t help that make teen girls really do get bullied for having passions and interests, regardless of how ‘toxic’ they act, because it makes the aforementioned fear of being hated feel more plausible
well make take on stan twitter is that I freaking love it! yes i've been attacked many times before by people who share the same interest as me or people from other fandoms just because I voiced my opinions, however I made many great connections with people from all around the world and have made some really good friends throughout the years especially if no one around you irl understands your love for stars and music ,, it's pretty awesome to be able to argue with like-minded people online even though it can be harmful sometimes. I think the good overweighs the bad
jasmine i loves this video , i learned more things in this video than i have learned this whole school year hope ur doing well ana very proud of your accomplishments
there are so many layers to stan twitter and having watched it evolve over the years was wild but you brought up a lot of important points to get a basic understanding of the topic and its issues because this place has ISSUES lmaoo but yeah it is also an important outlet and escape for so many so it's difficult to just label it one thing (and even more difficult to navigate)
I think it's also weird that people decide that 'you're not a good fan' if you don't know/do certain things. Oh, you don't know this about your celebrity then you're not a good fan'. Oh, you didn't listen to all the songs of them, then you're a bad fan. I think you're a fan of you like listening their songs and support your artist in any way (liking posts, listening to music) There shouldn't be such high expectations on being a fan. For example: if I get into a new artist I feel very pressured to have listened to all their music, because otherwise you're not a good fan'. Or if you like the hit songs as much as other songs, you have a bad taste.
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Can you do a video on fan fiction and how it's changed over the years and different kinds of fanfiction etc.
Can you talk about syco and modest management and everything related because Ik they are bad but not sure on all the details so I would love to be informed on them!
how parasocial made a huge difference with 1d. or shipping made it popular
"Stan twitter is toxic"
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when u started talking about imagines and the niall imagine showed up i started laughing so hard help
He doesn’t move lol
@@korichamberlin imagine him laughing you asleep
@@korichamberlin you tell him to stop but he is in there
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Jas: is stan Twitter toxic?
Me and the fellow directioners: yes.
Me knowing so many fandoms: Y E SSSSSS
Me being in a multifandom: yes
I'm in stan twitter,but in spanish its really funny
Yes.
Multistan but yes
I think your distinction between being on stan twitter first and paving the way for the culture of stans is so important. directioners didn’t invent stan twitter at all but they did impact it heavily and that was really well explained in this
exactly, couldn't have described it better
@@91fallings sexy pfp
@@user-wo2hr2oj9i oh thanks wbk
explain to me what the overwhelmingly cishet directioners invented that lgbtq+ Stans didn't?
@@cigarettearms5992 girl what…a lot of directioners are lgbtq. And half of “stan Twitter” culture comes from “cishet” black women. Bye.
i'll never forget what stan twitter did to taylor swift, that was dark.
wait what did they do???
thank god I wasn't on stan twitter at that time
@@balls7761 they created the hashtag #taylorswiftisoverparty
omg what!!
@@gummybear32 me too
Isnt it weird how teenage girls and their interests are looked down upon and made fun of through out society yet they’re the ones who arguably make the biggest impacts on how our society moves culturally. Such a weird phenomenon.
I never thought this way!
Ikr?
Misogyny😔
@@cookiesncream9158 ding ding ding we have a winner
right like we're always 3 years ahead of them i swear
‘sh*t directioners say’ just unlocked a memory so deeply ingrained in my head oh my god i miss it so much
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This almost felt like a hey angel video with the talk about 1D....let me go cry... 😢
currently crying
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😭😭 i thought i was the only person thinking that.. crying rn
huh??
@@nai.mp4536 she used to have a channel called “hey angel” that she posted videos just about one direction and their solo careers but she decided to stop posting on the channel 😭
the fact that you’re able to be funny and show your personality while still being so informed and relaying good info is amazing you’re going to be great at music commentary
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Two things
1. thank you for acknowledging the the LGBTQIA+ influence and the BIPOC influence on Stan Twitter and Stan culture, I hadn’t even thought about that before and it was very enlightening
2. I would love to see a video on fanfic. As a reader I’ve done a lot of research on various people’s opinions on the ethical side of it. I would love to hear you opinions and facts on it.
This video was so detailed and interesting. Another great, informative video, thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
Tf is a BIPOC....
@@sveoo6448 black, indigenous, people of color (:
@@madelineeeeeeee Lowkey still confused about the whole term☠️
@@rosedalinevaletine6931 wtf is confusing about it? This is sad how school system dont educate you people
@@areolagrandespoop7269 Why are you being so aggressive? Calm down. It’s okay.
when you talked about feeling guilty because you can't be on stan twitter i felt that 😅 i literally went off all my socials bc of my mental health for two months one time and like 40 people unfollowed me just because i missed some stuff. after that my mental health got even worse because i felt like i HAD to be on twitter all the time
Same. Like we’re human.. we can’t just be on social media 24/7. Some people need to realize that.
ikr same, a few months ago i took a break from twitter bc of my mental health for like two weeks and like 100+ ppl unfollowed me just bc i wasn’t on for two weeks- ppl just don’t understand that some ppl have a life outside of social media ig 😐🤚
@@brijxde exactly.... i feel like we’re all so addicted to the app and it’s a bad thing i guess.
SAME- lots and lots of ppl be unfollowing me on my social media just because I take breaks and it’s like bruh- 👁👄👁 it’s whatever tho
sameee the past few years ive had 3 stan twitter accounts each year and i always end up deactivating my acc
iv'e been a swiftie for a few years (i only recently got on stan twitter like a year ago) and tbh i think the pandemic made stan twitter way way worse... one thing is that taylor used to make her little inside jokes with us on tumblr & twitter but now she barely even uses social media bc of all the hate shes gotten over the years. i can also say for sure that taylor def has a personal connection w her fans but i feel like stan twitter has kind of ruined it. she sends us gifts and letters, money, invites us to her house, her m&g's are free, i can go on (she obv cant do all that during the pandemic) but now swifties are one of the main fandoms on twitter that fight other fandoms and attack people for no reason. + its really sad honestly bc taylor wouldnt like that at all :/
As a Swiftie too, I totally agree 😔 Not only stan Twitter could be toxic for us fans, but for the artists as well. And so much.
taylor does all that for her fans?! she sounds like an amazing person who really appreciates her fans, i wish she didn't get so much hate.
As a swiftie i agree taylor would hate all of what you mentioned and i miss the inside jokes and personal connections
this is so true. theres very few swifties that call out the shit behavior of other swifties.
honestly i think with stan twitter people have a whole perception that is is ALL toxic wherein it’s just whatever fandom you’re in, the louie side is fantastic (in my opinion) and there is little to no drama but when you start to lean to the one direction side and begin to cross the boundary it becomes more... distorted shall we say, different fandoms hold different opinions (of course) and express them in different ways (of course) but people need to realise it’s not the whole of stan twitter that’s toxic just, certain parties that ‘ruin’ it (shall we say)
@@darriancassidy2803 i’ve just said that? you’ve just reiterated what i’ve said in my comment but other words, i didn’t say i found it toxic if you’d look back at the comment, i said others found it toxic, and i am in the midst of watching the video now, i elected to comment before hand as it was my opinion and it still stands as jasmine holds the same one, and as i said before both you and jasmine said (practically) the same thing but with different words
Omg I’m a directioner and I really agree. Directioners can be really toxic. Also what the hell is with the Louies harries war?? Im a both and I feel stuck in the middle lmao
@@ell4332 Exactly, like yeah there’s a lot of toxicity in fandoms and stan twitter in general, but that doesn’t mean the WHOLE fandom is like that, esp with big fandoms, the bigger the fandom, the more toxic, it’s known, but that doesn’t mean the entire fandom is toxic, there’s bad apples in every bunch, and some fandoms are just bigger so have more bad apples🤷🏻♀️ sorry I kinda ranted a little too much maybe💀
@@fluffylouis454 i agree!! i am personally on stan twitter (i don’t know about you?) and due to being an ot5 i tend to merge into different sections and it annoys me that people have a flawed view of let’s say harries and harrie twitter when we’re not all like that, as i said in my other comment and as you said it can be literally 10 fans who ruin it for 10,000 they can give such a bad rep and it’s awful. following with your bad apple analogy that’s so true just think of it like an extended metaphor, stan twitter being the tree, the branches being the different fandoms and the apples being the fans, one bad apple ruins the bunch and i suppose it is what it is as we can’t do anything about it but it still pisses me off
@@ell4332 Exactly, I’m actually not on stan twitter, but I see how people generalize fandoms based on a few immature ones, and as a directioner for 7 years now, I’ve seen how toxic this fandom is, with fan wars, arguments, division between the fandom, etc...but that doesn’t mean that ALL directioners are toxic & act the same way, it’s a shame how these toxic stans ruin it for the entire fandom:/
1. you explained EVERYTHING to a T
2. your tattoos are so cute
3. your outfit is just **chef's kiss**
Yessss exactly
Wow you’re really one of the only people that I can actually listen to speaking for 30+mins straight,you’re explaining everything so well and still add personality to it ,I love that
OMG THE WORLD NEEDS THIS
Pro tip for Stan Twitter: don’t introduce your irl friends to your online friends. It mostly always never ends well ( in my case anyways ) 😃👍🏻
Can’t relate lmfao I feel like this is only a problem is the cishet ppl
d£@th threats are so normalised on Stan twitter it's scary.
It’s a good day when Jasmine posts
your pfp....i love it 😩
@@balls7761 TY
i was on 1d stan twitter for almost a year before i left bc i just couldn’t handle it anymore, i made so many amazing and nice friends on there and it was fun for the most part, but i was constantly seeing ppl who weren’t even in the 1d or solo 1d fandoms say terrible things about my favs and it just wasn’t good at all, and also everyone is so concerned and obsessed with the amount of streams on a song or the amount of stans an artist has and just doesn’t care about if a person is talented or anything that it just gets so exhausting having to deal with people like that and ruins the whole point of having a stan account tbh, like if you are only going to talk about a person that your account isn’t even for and say “ * blank * is such a flop they can’t even get on the charts while * their stan * is on the top of the charts” “imagine stanning * blank * couldn’t be me” “* blank * cant sing idk how they have fans honestly” it’s just makes no sense whatsoever and i don’t get how ppl think saying that stuff is ok, but honestly tho if it wasn’t for ppl who say rude stuff about other ppl for no reason i would probably still be on there bc it was genuinely so fun talking with ppl who have a common interest as me, and as i said before i made so many great friends while i was on there :)
Ik who you are talking about
@@lucas-ez4dz we all know 😉
I just wanna know who saw STAN (Stalker fan) by Eminem and thought
*Yes that’s a good thing to call myself* 😀
ngl stan sounds better than fan honestly
idk
@@kade6952 may sound cool but it's def not a good term.. it's basically a mix of stalker and fanatic...and Eminem coined that term way back in early 2000's addressing about his toxic followers by calling them stans 😂
@Lili no tf😭😭I just think stan is a better word😭😭😭
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos I'm aware, I just think stan is a better word than fan ig?
Thank you for spilling ✨ facts ✨
people tbh don't give enough credit to eminem for literally inventing the word "stan" and for basically introducing what on earth a stan was
It’s kinda weird that people saw a fusion of “stalker fan” and thought it was a good thing to call themselves though... 😬
you did a great job describing stan twitter! the anxiety and FOMO that came along with stan twitter is exactly why I stopped using stan twitter regularly :) it's also weird as a 23 year old who has been on stan twitter since 2011 but now feel out of place, since everyone else is so young.
I don't want to be that person, but I will probably come out as that person by this comment.
Thank you for including kpop in this. As a kpop stan, it means so much.
omg of course! the kpop fandom is a huge, HUGE component of stan culture and fandom twitter, i want to make commentary videos about the hate and xenophobia people throw at them or something along those lines
@@jasminezade omg you actually replied!! Thank you so much!
Would love to see that video!!!
@@jasminezade I would also love to see the video... It's just that there are these fan wars between directioners and ARMYs and people always compare One Direction with BTS spreading hate when it's just pathetic... As a directioner and army I would really like it if you could make a video addressing all the hate that these k-pop celebs receive. Plus since I love you so much and I watched all your videos on Hey Angel & Jazmine Zade I would really really appreciate it if you could do a sort of "Reacting to K-pop for the first time" kinda video...pretty please🥺
Anyways I love all your videos and you are literally the sole origin of my happiness cause it's always a good day when Jazmine posts!! Love ya💜💜💜💜
@@jasminezade omg it would be great please!!
I Hate k pop, but i Think it’s important to involve it cause there is so mutch racism happening towards The artists in that category,
I just made a stan account about two weeks ago, and I've already seen/experienced most of what you covered in this video. I've had a lot of fun with quick updates, talking to mutuals, and gushing over the louis airport pics (still not over them) but I've also seen a lot more of the toxic side of the fandom and it scares me
now is my chance to say what I need to say:
Stan Twitter makes me feel like home, like there's always someone. because of how many fandoms I'm in & how many people stan the celebrities I stan too. I legit met my girlfriend- well not on stan Twitter but through being a stan.
can it be intense? yes absolutely. is it not easy to understand at times for people who aren't stans? totally. but is it a safe space for stans? YES.
it's legit -besides all the hysteria- a home
that’s fair. and also how did you meet your girlfriend from being a stan? just curious cause that sounds cute and I’m happy for you xx
@@ana2.7bela65 awww thank you so much! we're both in a few of the same fandoms (yep also 1d) and met actually through Wattpad haha
@@lyricswritinggirl omg thats so cute aww
@@user-im7co4vi5m aww thank you so much!
I want a fanfic video
I second this!!! I feel like Jas hasn’t talked abt it too much and I would love to hear her talk abt it
Me tooooo
That would be so cool
Adding to the appreciation of Jas's recognition that much of "Stan language" came from the BIPOC community, especially the Black queer community, some further sociolinguistic reading about language and race and gender: Stephen Mann's (2011) "Drag Queens' Use of Language and the Performance of Blurred Gendered and Racial Identities." This is not at all a starting piece, there is so much other background info, but this is one piece I have really enjoyed from a linguistics course in university!
thank you sooo much for sharing this!
Most of the words Black Queer people came from black women
the way you talked about the pressure of constantly being on there and being shamed for leaving and actually having a life was something I wish I had heard when first joining. hopefully newer people can see this video and realize what I wish I had earlier, so thank you for this :)
stan twitter back in 2012-2013 was elite
That's very true. After that it started to fill up with more and more toxic people to the point it became unbearable
Yep
REMEMBER when katycats and Little monster almost drags each other every second like every time you scroll only full of fights
@@MaddiexTV no it has always been toxic
@@-amel-9896 Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
I deactivated or left all of my fan accounts because of how toxic fandoms are. My ADHD blurs the lines between what’s nice and what’s not and I’ll end up commenting something hurtful without realizing it, thinking it’s an innocent opinion or comment. I’ve tried to get people to understand that and apologize but I’ve hurt a lot of people without meaning to so I just stepped away. It hurt me more than it was worth.
As someone with adhd who also struggles between nice, mean, funny, rude. I understand this big time...
@@itzyyy6875 it's some kinda emotional syndrome...which has something to do with ur genes I suppose..idk much about it but I have hrd of it somewhere...u can always Google tho
Yeah i can relate i have autism and i sometimes don't know something is inappropriate or that the way i word things can offend people
just popping in to say how toxic stan twitter is. its the worst truly. fandom wars, being "cancelled", having drama with other people in your group chats or in "your side" of twitter, people priv quoting. It really builds up to become a massive source of anxiety, especially for me, because its fucking scary to wake up to a massive ratio and hundreds of dms telling you to d13 or something along those lines. I srsly hate stan twt, along with the things you said
and its nice to have a place to talk and interact with people who like the same groups idols and people as you.
@Laura Lella Yes exactly, and those mistakes shouldnt take away from someones safe place
I find cancel culture on Twitter to be quite ignorant. It’s educational values are lost when people are trending hashtags which put certain artists down or which are insulting. Why can’t an artist be held accountable for their actions without insults or cancelling them?? If you can have a conversation on their platform to make your point, that seems more efficient and effective to me. Otherwise, it begins to fall under the umbrella of toxicity. But it’s a culture that will just keep evolving and will continue to do so, so long as there’s this competition led marketing in the music industry.
I completely agree
yes i agree everyone tbh makes mistakes but does that mean we cancel and expose someone bully them etc?? nooooo :/
personally i've been on the solo louis tomlinson side of stan twt for ages and i've experienced little to none toxicity coming from the people on there. everyone i've met is so nice and all they care about is supporting louis and showing their love for him. and also staying in their own lane without talking shit about other people's favs unprovoked which is so weird to see nowadays :( i wish all fandoms were that way so everyone can enjoy stan twt the way (or we) do
that's so true. i'm a kpop fan and also a directioner so on twt i see lots of stuff abt bts, stray kids, blackpink etc. and one direction and the thing i noticed immediately is that louis' fandom is so calm and almost never toxic. i wish kpop stan twt was like that lmao, there's so many fanwars but seeing the 1d/louis twt side on my tl is very refreshing
Yup, I definitely agree with you. The louies‘ side of twt is so calm and friendly! Ofc the directioner side of twt is friendly too but there’s a lot toxity in that fandom. I’m an ot5/ louie for almost a year and I was once canceled for using a non existent word but besides that I love to be on the louies‘ side so much bc it isn’t as much chaotic as the directioners‘ side tbh. I’m really glad, that my tl isn’t full of solo harries, who drag the louies down tbh. The thing, that surprised me was that there are people, who call themselves ot5s but hate Liam which I just don’t understand. I don’t want to only spread slander about stan twt, so there’s something positive about it, which is that the moots there are really friendly and take care of you a lot. Bc of stan twt I met my bsf, who’s also an ot5 and a Arinator (sorry if I wrote that wrong idk how they’re really called)!
So true! I’m an ot5 and in louis’ lane and therefore I see the most about him on my timeline and (solo) louies never shit on anyone, its so refreshing to see. Also niall girls are very unproblematic too. Niall and Louis girls are literally just vibing and supporting them
@@linalaewen7396 yesss a massive respect to the louies and niallers :)
And this is why louies are all legends
not even that fandoms themselves are toxic but on the individual level there’s a lot of need for validation and like trying to become moots w people who are more popular than you idk it fucks w ur mental health. I felt like no matter what I was always missing content and it was really draining and exhausting
as a 1D Stan this was so interesting to hear and tbh Stan twitter can be toxic as fuckkkk but I see how we didn’t start Stan twitter and it’s not just toxic but it can be and mentally draining it can be an amazing time too this video is important and helpful
i love how you manage to cover a topic like this while still being funny you’re so amazing
Honestly many will say that armies are very toxic but I'm so proud of them cause they are one of the fandoms who are very aware and educated of what is happening around the world and they are the ones who constantly donates to what matters, so grateful for y'all!
Still most of them don't want to recognize when BTS screw up, for example, when they've done or said racist things
@@MilaBelen theyhave apologized and reflected upon their mistakes , now lemme just bring out something idiotic or racist thing you did 7 /8 years ago and ask for apology constantly even though youve already apologized .that is the situation
@@MilaBelen as a black army this is simply not the case. We always acknowledge what they have done. The problem lies when people use these serious issues to create fanwars which not only downplays the situation but it also disregards the apologies they made and the actions they made that have proved us that they actually educated themselves on these issues and grew for the better.
@@khushipandit2719 RM didnt apologize actually, he didnt actually say sorry, armies will say their favs have learned but when other celebrities say something ignorant, armies will jump on the hate bandwagon, sounds quite hypocritical
Nah army and I left stan twt because of the behaviour the fandom has since January. It went downhill really fast
IMAGINES omg what a throwback 😂
let’s talk about it 😌✋🏼
aaahh yes please
Oh lets
can you please make a video talking about the whole #justicefor1dandlittlemix and #justiceforfifthharmony thing and jedward speaking out and just your whole opinion on what they said about the xfactor and louis unfollowing after
we know they were mistreated, everyone does
the best you can do is support their career; syco is no more, this isn't gonna change shit
@@suditii whats with the aggression 😭 this is the point of commentary and discussion videos, to talk about and explore things going on such as mistreatment by a label. her making a vid about it obviously wouldnt “change” anything but it’d still be interesting and informative. literally relax
15:20 omg yes please do a video on fanfics
Yes pleeeeaseee
Can you be my teacher? Your explanation is **chefs kiss**
as a kpop stan who's been on kpop twitter for a bit, i'd say fancams and fan edits were separated for a while before they kind of became synonymous on twitter.
fancams were videos filmed by fans at concerts and shows before becoming more mainstream within the industry (where broadcasting companies, i.e. mnet and kbs, started making more official "fancams" of kpop idol's performances, which is ironic as they were called fancams for the sole reason that they were filmed by fans, but now they're usually by these big companies.) those fancams are the vertical, longer videos of performances with very professional set ups and cameras.
fan edits are a bit different. they were clips edited together, taken from vlogs, stages and other forms of content in general. i guess this are the videos with more resemblance to the vines that you mentioned.
i don't know much about the fan edits outside of kpop twitter, but non-kpop fans probably started calling their own edits fancams because they're used for the same purpose as kpop fancams - to promote their faves and get people to watch their performances. but from what i've seen, non-kpop fancams/edits were different from kpop fancams and just adapted to being calls fancams through some weird evolution. now "fancam" is just a wider term for videos focusing on someone's faves in general, whether performances or movie scenes or vlogs and whatnot.
can we talk about how differently people react to actual (kpop) fancams versus western stan fan edits the amount of racist comments ive seen from random people when a fancam is posted is just awful
oooh tea, i’m excited to watch
i’ve never been a first comment i feel accomplished 😌
Hey, could you consider making a commentary vid on like closeting in The Industry, and what managements Can truly get away With sooo easily. It’s so horrible and i Think With all thats happening on Twitter right now it’s important
i LOVE this video. i was on stan twitter all of high school and i ended up deactivating around may of last year and it’s crazy how much it was affecting my mental health without realizing it. i was actually on tv show stan twitter and not music but i had mutuals that were involved in all kinds of different fandoms so i definitely saw what you talked about in this video. one of the funniest parts of music stan twitter to me was comparing charts. i don’t want to get all “not like other girls” here because i do love plenty of popular artists but as someone who does listen quite a few “underground” (like less than 30,000 monthly spotify listeners) artists, it was funny to see people care so much about popularity. just listen to the music, who cares how well it’s doing if YOU like it? i also was someone that was guilty of doing unfollow sprees like every other week just to keep that skinny ratio and it’s funny to look back and wonder why i cared so much about that.
Honestly stan culture is a huge part of why I left the directioner fandom. I mean, I didn't consciously unstan it just... faded out of my personality and it became more draining than uplifting and cool. I still listen to their music and solos too (and I'll scream my head off in joy if Larry finally comes out lol) but I just can't be bothered to be there for all the drama that's happening every single day.
why would larry come out if they have have denied it... ykw nvm
i also think it's important to note the huge influence kpop twt has on stan twt. literally every edit trend or just trend in general starts in kpop twitter and ends up in all sides of stan twitter
genuine question, where did she mention kpop twt? i think i missed it
@@suksuk5191 i’m not sure if she ever does lol but i just wanted to point it out !
i hope this blows up
thank u :’) me toooo share as much as possible
@@jasminezade omg ty for replying!! i will share it with my friends :) ily
You’re so good at mixing information with showing your personality and humor, the perfect mix for a `not so serious’ informative video!
the fomo rlly got me, like ive taken a couple of breaks (all of them being kind of big regarding period of time) but its like it literally took over my entire life. we stan jasmine for putting into words what we cannot ❤️💀
i’m so excited that you’re doing commentary style videos on here especially since they’re revolving around pop culture, that is like my favorite genre of video on youtube and i can’t wait to see what you bring to it 😄
This was so informative I wasn’t really on the internet that much until 2017 so I always wondered where fan edits and Stan culture came from.
amazing video btw this deserves wayyyy more views
the rebranding and making videos you wanna make and wearing what you wanna wear and moving and oh my god i love you
Jasmines uploaded AND I got a Liam ad
Life’s great
So great
I left stan twitter at 19 yo, 4 years ago,, and gosh it turned out to be the best decision ive ever made lol now i have life outside the internet and made real-life friends, i have a variety of interests that go beyond a screen.. it’s weird i can’t really recall what it was like to live so tied to my online persona.. i don’t like to admit it but my mental health was as bad as it was bc of tw
your channel is so underrated this was one of the best/most informative videos i've seen in a while! your way of explaining things is just amazing and soooo entertaining 💕
So true. I love how engaging she is
as a young person who is interested in sociology and the music industry this was so interesting!! great work in edition too, also you are very articulate. congrats!
manifesting a hit video for jas 🕯🕯🕯
yess pls fanfiction history lesson
ahhhh wow i love how extensive your commentary is. also so grateful you included how much stan culture language comes from Black ppl! unrelated but my god the lyric drawings blasted me back to eighth grade lmao 2012 was a WACKY and wonderful time to be alive, on the internet (ahem, tumblr) and a directioner 😌😩
Mark my words: this girl's gonna be HUGE
here. this belongs to you 👑
queen you literally just spilled and made me watch a half an hour video of you talking about stan Twitter like it was so informative you're the best youtuber to watch ily
I don't know why, but I'm so confused with twitter. I tried to go on it so often, because in so many fandoms it's just very famous, but I always give up. For me it's so chaotic. Tumblr the same for me. Maybe it's because I simply didn't grew up with those platforms, but with instagram and tik tok 🤷
Everytime I go on Twitter even to check something it gives me weird negative vibes.. it’s like every second I’m on there steals a bit of my soul.
It just feels so awful on there and I can’t explain why..
omg jas i love this kind of format it's so interestinggg
As a veteran Little Monster who first had a stan account in 2011, I can honestly say that if you weren't there, you'll just never understand.
What was happening?
You nailed everything on the head! I’ve been on stan Twitter for a long time and I’ve seen a lot but this video was very informative and fun especially to watch as a stan!! Keep pushing out this content!!!🤎
i have exams next week but this is more important
i was on kpop stan twt... and to summarize the experience, i ended up deleting the account before i had a year of having it due to insane stress and anxiety. the amount of people that will send you death threats bc you disagree with them on something is much more than what i’d like to think.
don’t ever go on stan twt if you don’t have an acc now, i really hate the toxicity in there, it really isn’t hard to just learn to appreciate artists you don’t necessarily stan and be respectful pls😭
the people i followed and my mutuals were super nice but we also always knew what other were doing and that just ruins your day.
this is the reason I don’t have twt at all
i agree kpop twt is a truly disgusting place
Honestly not actively being in the 1D fandom as in not being on Stan Twitter was the best decision I’ve ever made it feels nice to do things at my own pace and enjoy things by myself
not jas edits being iconic as always 🙄✋🏼
I’m kinda used to Stan twt being toxic but something that very much aggravates is how dry some users are and the way ppl will get triggered at anything 😭😭💀
this is why i really don't like stan twitter anymore. back in the day it was so fun and i met so many friends and still friends with them but nowadays the app makes me anxious and it never feels like a safe place anymore. Its sad because it was such a big part of my teenage life too
ikr but now it’s just toxic asf
This is so informative. I’ve been calling myself a stan without really knowing what it truly means. I’m not at all active on Twitter, I just created an account so I could follow Liam and get a notification when he posts. But the whole competitive thing is inevitable in for instance the one direction fandom, because the whole fandom’s split into solo stans. Yes, ‘directioners’ can be separate to solo stans, but there are so many factions it’s almost like the film ‘Divergent’.
YOUR HAIRRR 😍
I'm on stan Twitter and i can tell you without a doubt that stan Twitter is soo fun BUT IF you don't follow the right people it can be extremly toxic
Love how she starts off with “I’m worried”
was a part of stan twitter for a few years before realizing the mob mentality you talked! i think it definitely changes your outlook in life and makes you in this "alert" mode that i think it's not healthy irl. now i just use my acc to share fanart or original art XD great video as always !
I think there can be a side to Stan Twitter which can be toxic, however it’s also something really good that’s happened to me as I’ve met several new friends from all over the world. We are all in a group chat together so whenever someone drops new music or posts content we can Inform each other so we don’t miss anything but we can also focus on mental health and get enough sleep
unrelated, but omg she looks sooo cute, pretty, perfect georgeous, stunning- and all the other compliments you can think of on that pfp (she always looks beautiful but that pfp and this video tho- its just a whole other level)
one of the reasons i left stan twitter is the amount of hate (for no reason) artists get, like for example i love bts and the shit I read about them from people that doesn't even know them was INSANE, that was my breaking point and after like 8 years i left stan twitter because it became such an unbearable place, it's not fun at all anymore
Yes I love heart attacks, and you just gave me a beautiful one
absolutely loved this video and would appreciate more such videos like the one you mentioned about fanfics
I am on stan twitter and I agree with your points on it being toxic, but i think if you curate your time line and moderate your time on there it can be a really fun, healthy and supportive environment and experience. Because of this my overall experience on stan twitter (to be precise army twt) is pretty positive.
One Direction have honestly left a black hole in how toxic stan twitter could become, the level of parasocial relationships both the boys and the fans engaged in was honestly shambolic
the notification popped up and it made me so happy so now i’m ignoring my history teacher to watch it 😏
I ALREADY LOVE IT OMG
i’d like to add something about why people on stan twt (and fandom ppl in general) are so defensive of their faves (and also hype them up often for sometimes very small things, however i don’t rly think that’s all that bad) - they’re taking things personally.
being a fan of of a certain thing isn’t just you liking it, it’s you being part of a community (with a fandom name to identify you), and so your interest becomes a key part of your self-image. thus, it’s very easy to process hate or any kinda neg towards your face (including much needed criticism) as being also towards you and your sense of self. i really feel like a lot of overdefensive stan behaviour is an offshoot of self-defence?
when i was really deep into bts, if i heard anyone say ‘i think their music sucks’ or smth like that i would emotionally process that as them saying they hated me, which makes no sense. it also doesn’t help that make teen girls really do get bullied for having passions and interests, regardless of how ‘toxic’ they act, because it makes the aforementioned fear of being hated feel more plausible
well make take on stan twitter is that I freaking love it! yes i've been attacked many times before by people who share the same interest as me or people from other fandoms just because I voiced my opinions, however I made many great connections with people from all around the world and have made some really good friends throughout the years especially if no one around you irl understands your love for stars and music ,, it's pretty awesome to be able to argue with like-minded people online even though it can be harmful sometimes. I think the good overweighs the bad
A fanfic video? Yes please!
jasmine i loves this video , i learned more things in this video than i have learned this whole school year
hope ur doing well ana very proud of your accomplishments
1:53 this hand motion reminds me of someone and I'M LOVING THIS YES MISS
Jas: is stan Twitter toxic?
Me and the fellow orbits: yes
there are so many layers to stan twitter and having watched it evolve over the years was wild but you brought up a lot of important points to get a basic understanding of the topic and its issues because this place has ISSUES lmaoo but yeah it is also an important outlet and escape for so many so it's difficult to just label it one thing (and even more difficult to navigate)
I think it's also weird that people decide that 'you're not a good fan' if you don't know/do certain things. Oh, you don't know this about your celebrity then you're not a good fan'. Oh, you didn't listen to all the songs of them, then you're a bad fan. I think you're a fan of you like listening their songs and support your artist in any way (liking posts, listening to music) There shouldn't be such high expectations on being a fan. For example: if I get into a new artist I feel very pressured to have listened to all their music, because otherwise you're not a good fan'. Or if you like the hit songs as much as other songs, you have a bad taste.
I feel like barbs helped Stan culture be what it is since like 2010s
100% agree!!
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