I didn’t realize how much I actually miss the og’s :( I miss there group dynamic, the banter, the willingness to die for each other, the suits ups, and so much more
I actually missed the way they were back then. Back then they were actually serious and did actual suit up moments, now I feel like they're just doing random shit. Don't get me wrong it's a great show, they just need to bring the badass moments like the good ol' days, plus I'm kinda upset they didn't bring Mick back
been saying this for time. Injecting some comedy like in season 2 was smart but they went way too far the other way. It's barely a dc, badass time travel show anymore. Proper wasted potential
There was a kind of attractive feeling in the OGs that is totally missing in the new ones. I think its because the OGs were from two of the CW's most famous shows-The Flash and Arrow. And they were also a bunch we never thought we would see together but their chemistry was just amazing with each other.
I don't think it was just that... First two seasons were very different than the later ones. In first two, it wasn't just about joking and messing around. It was "more serious" back then. Betrayals, killing, spying etc. that was on the days menu. Mick, Snart and Sara were specifically recruited, how did Snart put it? To "rob, maim or kill". Season 3 was "the break". It was still serious, or at least attempted to. Season 4 and later was just a joke. I mean stopping magical creatures, who were imprisoned with the demon Mallus, and they made most of them circus freaks. I mean come on, did they really tried to convince us, that it was people who were bad, not the monsters that were LOCKED IN FREAKIN' HELL? Not to mention contradictions. In first episode there was a heart-eating unicorn and then we saw minotaur who just wanted play guitar... That was just wrong.
First season was mediocre, saved by performances alone, not plot, only got better after hawkman left and we got actual villains. Later seasons were all in on the campy which worked for me but I can see why people wouldn’t like it
I remember when this show actually had a team made up of dc characters Now they're all mostly original characters the writers made. Citizen steel is the only actual comic book character still on the team if i remember correctly.
@@SwmLee i stopped watching it so i don't know but if i remember correctly, and i could be wrong here, but i don't think white canary was a comic book character before legends started anyway
I miss how chaotic they all where, how messy they where and how mick use to actually be involved in the show, and Sarah’s attitude, and of course the OG’S that used to actually be hero’s or villains, they didn’t care about the time line as much as they do now, they used to fight and suit up so much but now it’s just costumes.
This kitchen was not the area where the legends ate in season 1. In that season I believe the kitchen was a small counter in the clothing fabrication room. But then in season 2 this room randomly existed while the clothing fabricator room no longer had the counter. This was all before flashpoint even started to affect legends of tomorrow. Also the only time in the show where Captain Cold and Hackman were on the team together was the first 2 episodes of season 1. This kinda makes me wonder if this memory actually happened or if this never actually happened and was just inspired the the OG legends roster. But I’m probably looking to far into this all and it could be explained as flashpoint changed this room but it’s still kinda weird to me.
1. My guess is the kitchen came to be due to Jax's ship renovations (like for example the library, which has been established to be built by him) 2. You're right about the Snart/Hawkman thing, and about the kitchen not being there in season 1, but honestly that's not the only thing that's off; the characterizations seem weird too (Caty seems to he playing Sara with the sort of lightness and exaggaration she plays her in the later seasons, Hawkman is a totally cartoonish (albeit funnier and more entrataining) version of himself, Ray wouldn't be this offended by being called "boy scout", and the Legends as a whole didn't get along great at this point but they weren't this dysfunctional or violent towards each other (save for Mick as Chronos)). My headcanon is that this is just exactly what the show says it is; Gideon's memory. And while, in theory, an AI should be able to remember things as they truly were, this whole ep is about Gideon becoming human, and humans do not remember things 100% correctly. Our memories are influenced by our emotions, opinions and perspectives, and that could be exactly what's happening here; Gideon remembers the Legends differently as how they actually were, and gets certain details like the ones you mentioned wrong, due to a negative outlook of the Legends at the time and simple forgetfulness (especially considering this was over 6 years ago for her, the kitchen's been around for a while so she's probably gotten used to it, and the Hawkman thing is really just a small detail). Of course, the real reason behind it is a writting mishap.
I miss the superhero costumes the most. Look, I'm not saying wear them every episode. But final episode season boss battle, you put the white suede on!
@@blazegame5388 I mean, maybe so, maybe indeed with forming Earth Prime, however, first of all a reïncarnation joined the legends to stop savage at the end of the season and then he left with Kendra. And this is right after their son from another life was killed, so that was like episode 1 or 2. And this was reliving memories from the past, including moments like these from the beginning of season 1
Maybe is was just a threat. Ray knew that he could do it because he had gone missing that entire year in arrow however he didn’t quite know how to control yet
i miss hawkgirl, mommy... 🥺 im so sorry guys im down bad, by gf left me and i wanna kill my self( why the fuck am i writing this???) fuck idk im too high for thsi
I had left legends after season 3, (just lost interest in it I guess) and I returned solely for this episode and I was so so lost to these new characters and the loss of many of them. I have some catching up to do but from what I’ve seen so far don’t think I wanna continue.
It's crazy how different season one was. I see people in the comments hating on how it started leaning more into comedy and how they didn't do suits anymore in the later seasons, and I disagree. The comedy is my favorite part and I am fine without the suits. In the later seasons, they feel more like a family of regular people who just get into wacky shenanigans, and I love that. Also, Avalance is the best part of the show, so I am biased towards the newer seasons.
saw this on my recommendations and this is funny cuz when I stopped watching, all of them were still around so it's weird to see them treated as special, for me this seems like a normal episode
@@-Gamerly- oh come when there’s flash back or behind the scenes on the 100th episode and I tell you which episode that it shows behind the camera/universe
Yeah imma have to come back to this show once I forget about this thumbnail. It's ruined from me now 🤣 dammit I should have been keeping up with the show LMAO
I think this is supposed to be the day they first went into the wave rider, so the reason Kendra isn't there might be cause tthe actress couldn't be there
No dude you’re thinking of VANDAL Savage. Randal (or Randy) Savage was a thing in late 1980s/early-1990s WWF (before it became WWE) LOL (Snap into a Slim Jim…OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHH) 😂
I know this is a nit pick but ray didnt make a shrink ray untill season 3 when he shark the vase for the frist Time and the flash back would've been s1 between ep 2 and 3 i think?
This Hawkman had more character than he did in the entire season 1
Bro Hawkman in season 1 was my dad when he went to go get the milk
Yeah, they definitely had him over the top in this scene.
@@OneGaurdian you could tell by how awesome he was in the first two episodes, meant he wasn't gonna be around after that
The whooping 3 episodes
And more screen time also
I didn’t realize how much I actually miss the og’s :( I miss there group dynamic, the banter, the willingness to die for each other, the suits ups, and so much more
I miss when they actually suited up
I still find it cool that Sara actually called Ray “Boy Scout” at one time
A good Superman reference 🤣
Sara in her white Canary outfit and her sassy attitude, oh how I miss those days 😭😭
Her canary outfit is what i miss the most, cause she is still badass just not that much
When did she ditch the attitude
But she looked awful in it
@@vecnahenrycreel1300 she most definitely did NOT🤨
Yess her canary outfit was the Best😭 she looked Amazing!!!!
Man, how things have changed. Also, almost forget that Hawkman was an OG.
The fact he was only in season 1 for like 3 episodes doesn't help lol
@@jasontodd6822 oh shit yeah 😂
He was made out to be a focal point of the season and then he and Hawkgirl get written off after they kill Savage off.
@@TheForeverRanger never understood that lol what was the point of even introducing them
@@Charsi_Escobar true
0:50 hearing the Captain Cold theme again made me smile lol
He was my Favorite on the Flash and Legends
They ruined this show after he died
@@fowldz false
@@Vader_vgc True
Fun fact: he died because the actor didn't want to do anymore arrowverse. This is the same case with martin stein's actor
i laughed so hard when jax started speaking in a british accent
I'm so confused, is that the real Jax? Why is he using his real accent? What has he been upto since losing the firestorm matrix?
@@ThatLadKev its gideon's version of jax, but for some reason she remembered him with a british accent
@@ann4be11ewait what??
@@ann4be11eI havnt seen s6 or s7 so I’m just watching this like WTH 💀
I finished binging it and bruh the cliffhanger and it’s freaking cancelled 😭
I actually missed the way they were back then. Back then they were actually serious and did actual suit up moments, now I feel like they're just doing random shit. Don't get me wrong it's a great show, they just need to bring the badass moments like the good ol' days, plus I'm kinda upset they didn't bring Mick back
Dude is done done with Hollywood people are saying just wants to retire
You had a Thumbs Up just before I read the part "it’s a great show", no it’s not. Not anymore at least
@@jaytender4949 Nah you right, it just started getting too weird and making no sense
been saying this for time. Injecting some comedy like in season 2 was smart but they went way too far the other way. It's barely a dc, badass time travel show anymore. Proper wasted potential
Rip is back?
There was a kind of attractive feeling in the OGs that is totally missing in the new ones.
I think its because the OGs were from two of the CW's most famous shows-The Flash and Arrow.
And they were also a bunch we never thought we would see together but their chemistry was just amazing with each other.
I don't think it was just that... First two seasons were very different than the later ones. In first two, it wasn't just about joking and messing around. It was "more serious" back then.
Betrayals, killing, spying etc. that was on the days menu. Mick, Snart and Sara were specifically recruited, how did Snart put it? To "rob, maim or kill".
Season 3 was "the break". It was still serious, or at least attempted to. Season 4 and later was just a joke. I mean stopping magical creatures, who were imprisoned with the demon Mallus, and they made most of them circus freaks. I mean come on, did they really tried to convince us, that it was people who were bad, not the monsters that were LOCKED IN FREAKIN' HELL?
Not to mention contradictions. In first episode there was a heart-eating unicorn and then we saw minotaur who just wanted play guitar... That was just wrong.
First season was mediocre, saved by performances alone, not plot, only got better after hawkman left and we got actual villains. Later seasons were all in on the campy which worked for me but I can see why people wouldn’t like it
I remember when this show actually had a team made up of dc characters
Now they're all mostly original characters the writers made.
Citizen steel is the only actual comic book character still on the team if i remember correctly.
Is Sara not in the show anymore?
@@SwmLee i stopped watching it so i don't know but if i remember correctly, and i could be wrong here, but i don't think white canary was a comic book character before legends started anyway
@@sasquatchfilms6588 she ain’t but she was the only goodwritten original character in the verse 😭
@@sasquatchfilms6588 white canary is a comic character but it isnt sara lance
@@SwmLee WHAT??? Zari and Astra definitely slay
I miss how chaotic they all where, how messy they where and how mick use to actually be involved in the show, and Sarah’s attitude, and of course the OG’S that used to actually be hero’s or villains, they didn’t care about the time line as much as they do now, they used to fight and suit up so much but now it’s just costumes.
That whole fight sequence was contrived, at the same time….that’s straight out of an old comic book
man, seasons 1 and 2 of legends are some of my favorite TV ever
😂😂😂 there faces when he says no time for breakfast and smashes the plate that snart was holding 😂😂😂
I actually forgot Hawkman was on this 🤣
He literally died on the first ep, no one saw after that
@@UltraFan123 He didn't die the first episode, he was in the last episode of season 1 where hawkgirl and him left
@@Anomaly_Files18 yeah but he literally died the first time he could do anything. That's why Kendra was with Ray
Man, the OG legends did NOT like each other!
So awesome seeing Cartar Hall back.
You had one job
@@mrlabeouf9002 No
Seeing the OGs with later seasons humor is awesome
I love this show. I was disheartened when I found out that them getting caught by the literal time police was the end of the line for them.
Ray:Seriously Guys How Are We Ever Gonna Defeat Vandal Savage If We Can’t Even Make It Through Breakfast Without Killing Each Other?
This episode was so especial ♥️
Snart
It was good to see captain cold again
0:56 why did he do that with so much intent XD
NO TIME FOR BREAKFAST
I've been laughing my ass off at this for 5 mins😭bro struck that plate down like it was vadal savage or some shit💀godamn
Fr fr 😆😆
Hearing jax use their irl accent was jarring af. 😂😂😂
seeing the OG team again made me realize how far this show fell off
Ahhhh Sara in the original days, so different from this one😭😭
That's not a memory, they're just parodies of themselves.
Bro that’s what I was thinking everyone was so weird
Maybe Gideon misremembered the situation, it happens
And thats good
Calling hawkman “big bird” was HILARIOUS
Too bad the Legends Ship doesn't have a Past Heroes Hall. Can't have Rookies saying "Who's That?!"
you bring up a good point. Oliver did his best to keep the costumes or memoirs of those who were on the team
particularly if they are previus male 'legends' that were actually good, suffers the same problem an flash and supergirl did though
But she totally forgot about Hawkgirl I guess
everybody did
And that doctor guy. The old one who combined with Jax
They were probably busy or didn't want to come back
But she was so memorable! She used to be a barista.
Stein don't forget his name
I remember the OGs😭 god how I miss and love them
When the legends were actually legends
Yess Snart
Awww man you’re telling me the old cast just aren’t a thing anymore? Man and I loved S1 ):
I very miss snart
The best Arrowverse show of all.✌️
i know everyone hates session 1 but its my favorite
I never hated it. It had plenty of good moments. Liked it more than Season 2. And way more than 4 and 5
This kitchen was not the area where the legends ate in season 1. In that season I believe the kitchen was a small counter in the clothing fabrication room. But then in season 2 this room randomly existed while the clothing fabricator room no longer had the counter. This was all before flashpoint even started to affect legends of tomorrow. Also the only time in the show where Captain Cold and Hackman were on the team together was the first 2 episodes of season 1. This kinda makes me wonder if this memory actually happened or if this never actually happened and was just inspired the the OG legends roster. But I’m probably looking to far into this all and it could be explained as flashpoint changed this room but it’s still kinda weird to me.
This was earth prime legends so it might’ve been different to the one we know, and it probably did happen it was just not shown in the seriw
1. My guess is the kitchen came to be due to Jax's ship renovations (like for example the library, which has been established to be built by him)
2. You're right about the Snart/Hawkman thing, and about the kitchen not being there in season 1, but honestly that's not the only thing that's off; the characterizations seem weird too (Caty seems to he playing Sara with the sort of lightness and exaggaration she plays her in the later seasons, Hawkman is a totally cartoonish (albeit funnier and more entrataining) version of himself, Ray wouldn't be this offended by being called "boy scout", and the Legends as a whole didn't get along great at this point but they weren't this dysfunctional or violent towards each other (save for Mick as Chronos)). My headcanon is that this is just exactly what the show says it is; Gideon's memory. And while, in theory, an AI should be able to remember things as they truly were, this whole ep is about Gideon becoming human, and humans do not remember things 100% correctly. Our memories are influenced by our emotions, opinions and perspectives, and that could be exactly what's happening here; Gideon remembers the Legends differently as how they actually were, and gets certain details like the ones you mentioned wrong, due to a negative outlook of the Legends at the time and simple forgetfulness (especially considering this was over 6 years ago for her, the kitchen's been around for a while so she's probably gotten used to it, and the Hawkman thing is really just a small detail). Of course, the real reason behind it is a writting mishap.
That one girl looks exactly like Cisco from the flash in certain angles.
I miss the superhero costumes the most. Look, I'm not saying wear them every episode. But final episode season boss battle, you put the white suede on!
Yeah this is at it's core a superhero show. We wanna see the goofy leather outfits!!!
I'm watching this and thinking like when did they ever eat breakfast on the ship or say good morning to each other?!
Not the "poached" pun! XD
This scene is incorrect though, because Ray figured out the shrinking ray at the beginning of season 3, yet those OG's were season 1...
New time line didnt hawkman died in season 1
@@blazegame5388 Died and came back
@@blazegame5388 I mean, maybe so, maybe indeed with forming Earth Prime, however, first of all a reïncarnation joined the legends to stop savage at the end of the season and then he left with Kendra. And this is right after their son from another life was killed, so that was like episode 1 or 2. And this was reliving memories from the past, including moments like these from the beginning of season 1
Maybe is was just a threat. Ray knew that he could do it because he had gone missing that entire year in arrow however he didn’t quite know how to control yet
@@blazegame5388 yeh he did. This is just unseen flashbacks set between the two pilot episodes.Kendra and Carter's son is dead already.
I love it
I remember the OG's, but I don't remember them trying to kill each other.
It was nice to see Hawkman again, but I wish he and Hawkgirl would return
same
Yeah they just left forever
i miss hawkgirl, mommy... 🥺
im so sorry guys im down bad, by gf left me and i wanna kill my self( why the fuck am i writing this???) fuck idk
im too high for thsi
Wrong! Ray couldn't shrink other stuff until the end of season 1! And this scene was after episode 1.
Earth prime not Earth 1
@@fyreborneblu6706
Multiverse plus Time Travel equals confusion.
@@jeannguyen3199 wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Speaking of which, no Rip?
Thanks to the flash the continuity is scattered like glass shards
@@cryofpaine wrong show
No time for breakfast is hilarious
Still don’t know how this show is still on air…
This aged well lol
1:24 Ray is so Ken
I had left legends after season 3, (just lost interest in it I guess) and I returned solely for this episode and I was so so lost to these new characters and the loss of many of them. I have some catching up to do but from what I’ve seen so far don’t think I wanna continue.
1:08 casually recreating the spider-man pointing meme in the background
i miss rip
Y did the make the show so comedic i like the comedy, but i need it to be serious too, its like a cartoon now.
I miss the Atom
😍😍😍♥️
We miss the original legends! Who are this new people?
Ray:Boy Scout? Don’t Make Me Shrink You
ive been out of the loop! was their contract up after a few seasons or something? they r already being called the Og's? daym
Good
Cap Cold having a hero’s death torn me to pieces. Don’t know if his sister knew about it
It's crazy how different season one was. I see people in the comments hating on how it started leaning more into comedy and how they didn't do suits anymore in the later seasons, and I disagree. The comedy is my favorite part and I am fine without the suits. In the later seasons, they feel more like a family of regular people who just get into wacky shenanigans, and I love that. Also, Avalance is the best part of the show, so I am biased towards the newer seasons.
saw this on my recommendations and this is funny cuz when I stopped watching, all of them were still around so it's weird to see them treated as special, for me this seems like a normal episode
This Sara… sheeeeeshhh
Lo espero
This scene happened between 1x01 and 1x02
No it did not my guy
@@-Gamerly- oh come when there’s flash back or behind the scenes on the 100th episode and I tell you which episode that it shows behind the camera/universe
@@king_rob100 when the fuck did hawkman have a moustache
Why tf does Jefferson have a British accent now? 😂
Finally someone asked
Well, i dont know how they wrote it into the show, but I do know that the accent is the actors actual voice. He really has a British accent
@@crazyman7671 I know that part, but I haven’t watched the show since season 2 or 3. So I have no idea how it fits into the story.
because her memories got a bit scrambled.
Scrambled memories, much like this scene
0:29 Gideon the human girl , uh ok i didn't see that part yet
Yeah imma have to come back to this show once I forget about this thumbnail. It's ruined from me now 🤣 dammit I should have been keeping up with the show LMAO
What happened to Jax’s accent? 🤔😕
It's strange lol. In the episode it's explained that it's the way Gideon has remembered his accent (since they are in Gideons memories)😂
@@ArrowverseScenes I did not like that accent it’s weird lol
@@Speedyhs I'm pretty sure it's the actors real accent. Not sure though, I haven't seen much behind the scenes stuff from him.
@@ArrowverseScenes It is his actual accent. But didn’t the actual Jax in this episode have an American accent?
I just pretend its another crisis change hahahaha
😂😂 when Superman return from 2007 shows up on legends of tomorrow
I love how Brandon Routh’s Ray Palmer gives off major Clark Kent vibes
I liked that Hawkman came back
We don't see Kendra that means that maybe, in this new Timeline, Vandal Savage killed Kendra in the First episodes instead of Carter
I think this is supposed to be the day they first went into the wave rider, so the reason Kendra isn't there might be cause tthe actress couldn't be there
She’s on the Rookie! I didn’t get past season 1😂
Did they ever clear up the ending of season 1 with Vandal and Hawk Girl? I haven't watched this show since then.
I'm on season 3 and not going to ask why Jax has a British accent and Snart is back.
Carter:Big Bird?
Funny how we haven't seen the hawks in yrs
Olivia ❤❤❤
Hey. That's Nolans Rookie from The Rookie. Celina 😮
0:03 why is he British
I missed the OG. They made the show watchable... But, I guess the newer shit is not for me.
Damn i never see this new group 😂😂😂😂😂
This looks like a first season Doctor Who
The dude sounds like Phoenix from Valorant.
I’m legitimately shocked this was even a show
Wait im sry am i missing something why does Jax have a British accent
Bad callback to the ogs
When did they all turn British? Lol
Pov: you forgot about Hawkman
Hav'nt watch legend of tomorrow in 2 years. Did Jax come back or was he just a guest for one epoisde.
Guest
also why is he British now
i havent watched this show since prof. stein died in crisis idk any of these new ppl lol
So Gideon is human again
Ray wouldn’t act like that
Is it me or have they changed jax voice
It was mentioned in the show. He has a British accent because that is how Gideon remembered him. He even asked about the accent.
Oh wow Remember when Randal Savage was a thing in this show
Lmao “Randal Savage”
@@tantris2876 yeah he was the Main Antagonist for a while
No dude you’re thinking of VANDAL Savage. Randal (or Randy) Savage was a thing in late 1980s/early-1990s WWF (before it became WWE) LOL (Snap into a Slim Jim…OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHH) 😂
I think you mean Macho Man Randy Savage
LMAOOO RANDAL SAVAGE
I know this is a nit pick but ray didnt make a shrink ray untill season 3 when he shark the vase for the frist Time and the flash back would've been s1 between ep 2 and 3 i think?
Captain col was my favorite charcter until he died season 1 then it became sara
I haven't watched this series in years, why does Jackson have a British accent?
Bro why is firestorm British now