RECOVERY and Running in your 60's and beyond! NO to ULTRAMARATHONS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Being 63 and having completed a number of key races in past 6 months, i have been doing some analysis with my results and there have been some shocking, yet unsurprising results about recovery from running training and running races and talk about why i say NO to Ultramarathons.
Be sure to watch all the way through and let me know in the comments your first hand experiences and thoughts about recovery as we get older and into our 60's and beyond.
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The need for recovery in your 60’s and beyond is real! I have just moved my training plan from a 7 day cycle to a 9 day cycle, simply because it was becoming very apparent I needed more …..RECOVERY!😂
Wise move!
Cheers Donato. Great video.
Aging process is part of life but we're all individuals so slow down at different rates. We can delay the process by looking after ourselves but we also need a bit of luck too.
On the day, you didn’t get time you wanted in the 5k but that doesn't mean you won't get it in your next.
There's no definitive answer to marathon recovery time because everybody is different. 6 weeks was mentioned but some take 6 months or longer. Others can bash them out every week with minimal fuss.
Ultras are not for everybody and there's no shame in that. Running them hard or to win is very difficult. For many, they're less pressure as the focus is on complete, rather than the clock.
Very true Colin. I had heard at the sharp end of Ultras the leading runners can take many months to recover?
Some thoughts. You can 'over-race', and indeed 'over-train,' at any age. Reflecting on my younger self I was definitely guilty of this. You feel you can run on the edge .... forever. No you can't. You produce disappointing results or you get injured. There is no doubt that you are perceptive and self-analytical. However, you appear to make the same unfortunate decisions as many of us do. Whatever our ages. You appear to admit to 'over-racing'. Ask yourself why is this? If you want to achieve a specific goal/time, you must respect what is needed to achieve your goal, You can't take for granted that your body will perform at your beck-and-call. You need to take care of it. Recovery and nurture. Prepare properly for goal races. Did you do this for the Wythhall & Hollywood? If you did .... well you roll the dice and get the result. Ce la vie. If you didn't .... well that's back to you. Just turning 65 next month and can appreciate your perspective. Looking to break 20 for 5K after slipping under 21 last month. Not run/raced for over 25 years and got the bug again last year. Great, isn't it !!!
Great to see you here and appreciate your detailed feedback! I’m guessing you were a top runner in your your?
@@PoetWithPace Not really. Probably second-tier in my 'hay day.' Many X-Country & Road Relay team medals but few race wins and top three places. Competition was fierce in those days! Love your channel bytheway. Raw and unadulterated. 👍
@@callmeal4183 that’s top runner class in my books! Glad you appreciate my raw channel here. Can’t stand the smell of BS 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Donato, for your very interesting and thought provoking video.
Thanks too for the unbeatable cat and duck action!
Glad you found this interesting. Gotta get the great matter going, yeah?
Spot on👍. Still struggling with injury and recovery from Manchester half. Attempting the 5Km qualifying myself at Morecambe this Friday, but my first rule for racing is enjoy whatever the time.👍
Thank you Gary and good luck to you at Morecambe! Nice and flat I’m guessing?
How you have this conversation & not talk nutrition baffles me. Recovery & Running in your 60's is all about nutrition and you need 2g of protein / 1 kg of body weight per day to repair all the micro tears of tendons/muscles/ligaments, something I can only achieve via shakes. I find recovery from races at 61 is moderately more protracted than in my 40's, but recovery from injury is 3x - 4x longer. Runner's Hip or Knee (Bursitis) in my 40's? a week, maybe 10 days. Now at 61, a month for sure. Shoe rotation game is strong, I'm still good on roads, but I stay away from Carbon shoes, don't want the additional forces & stress they impose upon mechanics - feet/knees/hips.
Welcome here and I appreciate your feedback. I’m not qualified to talk about nutrition and would only say what I do, which always opens to critique. Good nutrition and sleep is a given for recovery, my point here is allowing enough time from training and races. Some want to keep racing every week or training hard every week, which is not a good idea. What distances do you race?
I only mention this as you seem to be going from 1 race to another in the above video and not sure how selective that is.
I don't go at race pace at all races, many are just used as training as with recent 20 mile race and the current Half Marathons at Great North and Worcester.
Still think I'm 18 years old but I'm in my late 50s finding it a lot more difficult to run ultras . Thanks for a kick up the back side video unfortunately it's so true
It's great to be young at heart and we can think we are any age (i'm 21), but we need to keep things in perspective and i believe look at long term. We can still enjoy our running even though we slow down and need to recover more as we age. Got any events coming up for yourself?
@@PoetWithPace Resting up for summer not so many miles in the heat Thinking of running a backyard race in October . Happy smiley running to you
Really enjoyed that Donato, having broken 90 minutes for the first time at weekefor 1/2 @ 62, still believe we can accomplish great things, but we do for sure need longer recovery times. If we get our planning right we can certainly race hard but it's a big if, getting that mix right, perhaps recovery trumps racing.
Glad you enjoyed this Anthony and well done on your sub 90! What next for you?
@@PoetWithPace have a 10k 5th July, but have picked up a hip niggle on trails last night, so will recover Welland let that cure, after then it's Sydney in September
@@anthonypower7048 hope the hip niggle clears and enjoy the 10k! Sydney Marathon?
Really good video Donato, I have been running for around 12 years haven’t had an injury that has stopped me from running for more than a week, soon as I turn 60 November last year got a knee injury stopped me from running for nearly 3 months, slowly getting better did my first half marathon last weekend in a ok time, so your video came at the right time, interesting facts about over 60s runners, thanks Donato 🥳👊🏼👍✌️👣🏃🏽♂️✅
Glad you found this useful Reece! Have you fully recovered from injury?
@@PoetWithPacehi Donato, I’m not fully recovered yet, I did a half marathon last weekend, still feel like about 30-40% recovered, because I couldn’t probably run for about 3 months, lost a lot of fitness & helped a lot carrying on with swimming pool lengths & biking & some running real balancing act, 3 months ago couldn’t walk half a lamppost distance without pain, so super happy just to get a half marathon finished, I’m finding not sure if it’s the knee or just being over 60 now I have to do 3-5 km very slow warm up until I can do anything that ever resembles something that looks like proper running, cheers 🌴👣👊🏼✅🏃🏽♂️
@@gokiwi2642 take it easy Reece 👍🏼
Agree 100% mate I’ve thought this for a while being 61 now times have got slower but fully rested and I mean fully I can still get to where I was 4/5 years ago I have found using creatine helps with my recovery on a personal level anyway… keep up the good work see you about on the banks of the river sometime 👍
Thank you Alan and glad you found this useful. Got any races coming up?
@@PoetWithPace cheers for the reply I’m doing the red heart 10k in a couple of weeks best put my feet up 😂😂👍
@@alans1595 enjoy the rest & race! Let me know how you get on?
Donato, ask yourself why do you think Djokovic who is only 37, now only takes part largely in Grand slams and not in ATP tournaments? Because he simply feels he can't recover as quickly and still play at his absolute best in the important Grand Slam tournaments. And he's only 37! So you also have to be selective in your races and decide and prioritise the ones that you feel are important and forsake the other ones so that you can perform at your best. Simples.....
Not sure how long you have been following here, but that is what i do. I am very selective.