Dr Grande, you gained more huge respect from me for your balanced, honest analysis of one of my (now fallen) heroes. THANK YOU for not adding pain to those of us whose hearts were broken that our spiritual leader had feet of clay. Thank you for avoiding snide and snarky comments as many others have given. Ravi is a perfect example of why we are to put our faith in Jesus, not in humans.
I really do believe this is a stern reminder to never glorify anyone other that The Trinity. I do have a lot of respect for Paul Washer, but he is the first to say Christ alone.
I was a classmate of Ravi's. I knew him personally. I interviewed him and filmed him in my home. This was a good and fair analysis of this sad situation. Much sorrow for the victims
@@kr50401 from Jesus... people, although well intended aren’t perfect. That doesn’t excuse immoral behavior, but if God shows Grace why can we? This is the very reason we look to Jesus, not to man... first problem, of our age is making “celebrities” out of people, because at the end of the day no one is without sin, so should we throw the baby out with the bath water?
Could you please do an analysis of Edith Bouvier Beale that lived in "Grey Gardens" in East Hampton, NY with her mother in a dilapidated mansion? People have been fascinated with that story for years since the movie and Broadway play about them.
Thank you for your thoughtfulness in making this video, Dr. Grande. Those of us who admired his views and truly believe in Jesus Christ have been horrified at the abuse he inflicted on these women, apparently for years. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian should not defend what he did.
Power and money often corrupt. My apologist reading stopped with C.S. Lewis, and I am not an evangelical, so I wasn't aware of this fellow. There are wolves in every faith's fold.
@@evelynwaugh4053 A very good apologist is Josh McDowell--very smart, and not arrogant or manipulative--has written several books and I have read his biography--as an abused child he searched the Scripture when grown, to prove it was a lie--and believed--also forgiving his abusive father and developing a relationship with his Dad before his death and leading him to believe also. Josh McDowell is worth reading.
Hypocrisy and truth are two separate entities. Even if I'm a smoker and advised others not to smoke may seem hypocritical; still, doesn't change the fact that smoking is bad for one's health and good enough reason to quit.
Uhhh not really I’ve heard good things about Ravi for years. The silence from the evangelical community is only deafening when their religious leaders “fall” aka sexually harass women.
I too was broken when I learned that Mr. Zacharias was found to be guilty of these "misdeeds". It was difficult for me to believe that such a seemingly stalwart man of God could do these things. But then I realized that we all are but sinners in the eyes of God, and we indeed have feet of clay. I truly hope that he asked God for forgiveness on his deathbed before he passed.
It is sad how much damage a man's sins can do to his work. Thank you for your clear and direct handling of this topic, Dr. Grande. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
A Pastor who is a Wonderful Christian man, noticed this - Ravi never "quoted Scripture". Notice that Pastors, even Sunday School teachers always quote God's Holy Word as they preach /teach.
As a Christian, I appreciate this thoughtful analysis. I want to make very clear that the Christian faith is completely against and doesn’t condone any behavior like this. Thank you for separating these incidents from the ultimate message of the faith and beliefs most Christians believe in and practice.
@@havest2 I found it to be unbiased and logical. Speculation on one’s beliefs or lack of unless already expressed is rather presumptuous in my opinion. So also is assuming that even if someone is Christian, would automatically validate this behavior.
@@easttowest5984 its not presumptuous he has crucifixes hanging on his wall. but apparently that makes me so odd to wonder? and it's not presumptuous for me to think the bible condones sexually violent behavior, because it does. lol The only "presumption" i appear to have made is that you read the book you claim to believe in while you ran under a bunch of your own presumptions thru assuming i had no evidence to back up my statements and also that i have never read the bible myself.
@@havest2 also presumptuous to assume someone hasn’t read the Bible who has since being a child all the way through to being an adult and taking Theology and religious studies 😉 I’m not going back and forth with you. I made a comment on a video and I stand by that. Sorry if that is upsets you.
And Ravi Zacharias bragged about never being in a car with a woman or alone in an office with a woman. He knew what to say and when to say it. Very manipulative.
Yah, it adds something negative. Better to simply keep one's mouth shut rather than to compound the wrongdoing by proactively lying. He doth protest too much.
As an admirer of Ravi's work (not his behavior), it's truly tragic. Good analysis of the situation. May the victims find justice and healing from the evil that has been done to them.
Dr. Grande, your comparison with a criminal cop is spot on. From a Christian standpoint it is exactly the same. We know what is requiered but we sometimes find "reasons" to not obey God which is always a bad choice. That does not mean that we can not share true divine truth. There have always been such "carnal" Christians. That is why Paul is warning us to live after the flesh. RZ already stood or stands before God, his Judge. Therefore we don't have to try to judge RZ. And let us not forgive that all of us is in need to be saved by grace through faith until we make our last breath.
They follow the man with a message and that's not the same as following God or Jesus. That's the mistake innocent people like your grandmother make, sad.
@@lillianbradley3483 I have a hard time loving a person who uses gullible people. You'll do what you feel comfortable with; that was my opinion. Take care.
The article in Christianity Today stated that the alleged misconduct occurred from 2005-2010 at the spa, over a decade before he died. I'm not sure why these accusers waited so long to come forward. He is not here to defend himself. Perhaps the allegations are false or he did repent. He was a great apologist. If pray these allegations are false, but it's hard to tell.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC Yes, I also was devastated by the news and just couldn't believe it. Now maybe there's hope for him that he repented and changed his ways. (i.e. if the allegations were true)
About 10 years ago I attended a talk by Zacharias on a university campus in my home town. The audience was impressed with his brilliant apologetics and philosophy. What a tragic disappointment he turned out to be. Eloquence need not be conflated with piety. There was a very well spoken man in my church who was invited by the pastor to give sermons. He preached brilliantly. Just one slight problem: he was incesting two of his children. He was exposed, banished from the church, and his wife divorced him, got full custody of their 5 kids, and took possession of their homestead and business. He wound up losing everyone and everything of value to him.
I really appreciate Dr. Grande's fair-minded approach. I'm glad that his ministry investigated and admitted to the harm he had done. He clearly had a problem and instead of admitting it he abused his power to victimize people, and as a result has probably shaken some people's faith.
Billy Graham always said he would never allow himself alone in a room with a woman who wasn’t his wife. There’s a reason for this of course. Being a “man of God” doesn’t mean you are above sexual temptation. Although he was never brought to justice here on earth, Mr. Zacharias will have to answer for his actions in a court that bears far more grievous consequences.
In my mind, his misdeeds does not invalidate his message. He was a great thinker and a great apologist. That having been said, it has been incredibly disappointing to have these allegations come forth and apparently be true. Those of us who loved and honored him are extremely hurt that he would fall prey to these behaviors that are so bloody common to man. Billy Graham still stands out for his insistence that he always be accompanied by another man, in order to provide both protection and accountability.
I'm a doctor (of medicine). Some medical schools have given out honorary medical degrees, but you cannot use them to practice medicine. An honorary degree is far different from spending years becoming educated to an approved standard, or in the case of a PhD (a real doctor) such as yourself, the requirement to also teach (the word doctor is from the Latin meaning "to teach.") perform research, then write and defend a dissertation. Passing himself off as a doctor was dishonest, and purposely so. Your balanced analysis was, as always, excellent. You mix in some subtle humor in just the right places. Also, you realized that his bad acts may not diminish his message. Any of us who are parents realize we often fall short of perfection, but that does not make good teaching to our children less valid. My wife and I happen to be Catholic, and no, the Pope can't determine who goes to heaven or hell (Never was taught that he could). Priests validly confer the sacraments even in the state of mortal sin. If the priest intends on conferring the sacraments properly or preaching faithfully he does so validly, but perhaps not licitly. The message is still good, even though the messenger sucks (and so many of them do). You are wise, and the force is with you! Best wishes.
I am not a Christian but had listened to him a few times. He gave me the creeps. Anyone who wields this kind of charismatic power should be approached with quite a bit of discernment. This is a good lesson for those of us who easily give away our power. To be fair, plenty of "spiritual teachers" of all stripes, whether Christian, Buddhist, Non-dual, etc, have turned out to be some not-very-well-integrated people.
omg, that was such a cute and funny comment! You made me laugh so hard already , and it's only 5:45 in the morning! Hahaha! Thank you for starting my day out right! Hugs from Las Vegas!
Lol, one of the few things in my life I’ve really been struggling to accept. Thank you for this comment. I needed to know I wasn’t the only one hurting for the blinds. I think I’m ready now to accept as well.
There are many valid, negative criticisms that could be said about this platform, TH-cam. But sometimes this platform functions beautifully, and both creator and viewer are the better for it, IMO. Dr. Grande is an example of TH-cam in its best existence. I love the fact that this very intelligent, but likely introverted and perhaps even shy man has found a way to reach hundreds of thousands (maybe millions, depending on certain factors). I’m so glad that Dr. Grande created his channel, and that so many of us have found and embraced him. When a person truly hits his stride in life and is able to find his niche, I feel a tremendous sense of happiness and satisfaction. 😊
Lori Ann Thompson suffered terribly from what Zacahrias and his organization did to her. Also, the organization had received allegations over the years, but dismissed it, trying to protect the ministry. They didn’t want to believe it. It wasn’t just Zacharias being manipulative.
The plant grouping looks good and happy today. Dr.Grande, maybe it's a tall order but would you please share some suggestions on how Americans can reduce hostility among differing political groups and encourage understanding and sympathy? Life is short, we are wasting time arguing, we can do better.
I have friends who don't agree with my politics. Sometimes we agree, sometimes not. Recently I felt disrespected because one of my dearest friends unloaded on me, without giving me the chance to respond. I don't know what to do. I'm flabbergasted.
Hi Dr. Grande, I was just waiting every day since this news about Ravi came to the airwaves to get your expert analysis. It was finally done today and was so precise and self explanatory. He knew what he was teaching is right. However, he violated it knowingly. Thanks for your analysis.
As a Catholic I always admired Ravi Zacharias and encouraged friends to listen to him. I thought his arguments for theism and the Christian faith were very good. I once saw him speak in person. However, being Catholic and knowing what our church has gone through I knew this happens more times than not. I feel terrible and pray for the women who were just trying to make a living. They are victims of a man who at the least committed sexual misconduct and who was obviously a fraud, living a double life.
What I see is a problem is many people put these religious leaders on A Pedestal. Then they become upset.when they fall. This is why it is important to do our own research.
sadly .. we hear of these 'goings on' after he has passed. all i can tell you is that for decades i was deluded and on the wrong path, after the death of a friend that meant the world to me but was an angry man and i missed the oppotunity to witness to him, i was scattered.. my soul was in danger and my heart was bled dry... i clicked through radio stations and one of the channels had ravi's teachings on the air daily. i took great comfort in hearing his teachings. i cant blame another human for thierr fleshly sins because my past would have had him roll over in his grave.. I still love him. im sorry he had this struggle
I still believe that Ravi was sincere in his belief in God and his arguments were spot on. Like all humans, he sinned. In his case it leaves millions of people disappointed, but as Dr Grande said, his arguments were based on logic and are sound. I do not think any less of his views of Christianity and as for his personal life, it is for God to judge, not us.
I still love and respect Zacharias... He saved my life via his messages at a very difficult situation I was in 2011... His character might have been dented but his work and ministry is still intact for our generation and generations to come... I love you Ravi, continue to rest in peace.... Lots of love from me here in Nigeria, Africa
Using a position of power to engage in inappropriate behavior is disgusting. He is far from the only one in the ministry that has engaged in this behavior. He has seared his conscience .
Thank you for a balanced analysis, Dr. Grande. As an INTJ who grew up in a rather religious family Zacharias was a name that was heard often. I remember when the allegations that he claimed to have have been a Professor at Oxford came out and I did a bit of research and was disgusted to learn of his abuse of women. Hopefully the evangelical community can learn from this, avoid putting people on pedestals and help the survivors of abuse instead of being in denial that any abuse occurred.
Lol yes! My grandmother bought a my pillow and it hurt her neck so bad after a week of using it she had to go to the doctor. Then she told my husband that he could have it, and he raved about it until a few weeks later he started having major neck pain.
I really like Dr Grandes videos, he sheds light on issues and topics I never knew existed. Like I knew a little bit about an issue, then Dr Grande blows the details wide open, love it....
Do people in this category qualify as victims: massage therapists who give a massage that includes sexual favors and accept extra pay for it and keep it a secret over a long period of time so that their customer will return for more massages?
I think some people did come forth but were not believed. I have to admit that you make a good point about anyone who agreed to a return visit. Did that happen with anyone? It's hard to make judgments when we don't really know the circumstances.
Ravi and his wife attended our Missionary Alliance Church back in the 80's. But we rarely saw Ravi. He was always away. They asked him to preach on Sunday night, so he did. But it wasn't about the Bible; just human philosophy. I wondered, what's the point. I'm sorry for the way Ravi chose to go in. I can't imagine the pain this must be for them. Was Ravi a true Christian? A lot have agonized over this question. Only God knows Ravis' true heart. But I know what it's like when I fail the Lord. I've known Him for 48 years. Throughout those years, I've failed the Lord many times; felt His gentle rebuke, and His fiery rebuke. But I always hated my sin. I ran from it. Because if I didn't, God's Word would be like a burning Sword into my heart. 😥 God is abundant in mercy. He convicts of sin - brings you to tears - then comforts our broken hearts and counts our tears. That is the historical path of true Christianity, when people understood their sins bring guilt before God and very serious consequences to those who treat God with contempt. But this??? To just continue in a never-ending obsession with sex, and abusing others with such cruel manipulation; and still think you're a true servant of God? When pigs fly. 🐷 There's nothing new about this. It was shocking because Ravi came in under the Banner of true Bible churches. And we've become far too gullible and easily led, to recognize any wolf or know what to do if we find one. Acts 20:29-31 "I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock." "Even from your own number, men will arise and distort the Truth 📜 in order to draw away disciples after them." "So be on your guard. Remember that for three years, I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." "Now I commit you to God and to the Word of His grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified."
I'm really torn. I wish to say that the fact he engaged in habitual, grievous sin didn't mean his messages were wrong. Yet I know there are victims out there enduring the consequences. What's most disturbing was the predatory nature of his actions. They seemed premeditated 😞
Reminds me of King David except for the part that King David was a man after God’s heart, had repented and suffered the consequences of his sins throughout his life into old age.
I'm 😢 and sad about rzim. As a Christian I have to examine my own sinfulness and a daily repentance. I believed rzim was never saved because he has a lot of knowledge but no repentance heart.
This was a difficult shortcoming to witness. However, Ravi's behavior has been exemplified so many times within the Bible, from Moses to Peter. David broke all ten commandments, and yet continually returned to what he had left behind. Ravi inspired millions and helped them learn how to navigate important and contentious issues with grace, humility, intellectual integrity. "The moral shortcomings of the wise and experienced do not invalidate their wisdom; it simply renders it bittersweet."
Well spoken, thank you! When we become Believers, as Christians, we still have flaws and sin. It can take a lifetime just to get the basics! Were only human beings on earth, with hearts and souls redeemed by Jesus Sacrifice. Keeping The Commandments Didn’t work; that’s why Jesus came , once for all. ❤️
Research the history of Christianity. Please seek out information that doesn't only confirm your religious faith. Con artists use religion on the gullible to fill their own pockets. Don't make any apologies for these scum bags. Ravi is not someone to look up to.
@@MicahBuzanANIMATION What makes you think that I haven't? His trespasses were abhorrent, and he passed without having made public amends. But the Bible also says that all truth is known to man, and even the most corrupt individual can parrot a useful truth. Let's suppose that Ravi wrote a book while being (relatively) pure; how should we judge that piece of literature?
You have just shown what it means to be an authentic religious or spritual person. Being non-judgmental and forgiving. That does not mean condoning the behavior. You project kindness and a warm heart! Wonderful and beautiful!
As the President of the Honorary Doctorate Recipients Association of America (HyDRA), I find it deeply offensive. We have many distinguished members - Dr. Evil, Dr. Strange, Dr Who. etc. It is time for "real" doctorates to stop pissing on us and get back to writing those grant proposals.
As a spirit-filled Christian, I find this so disturbing. I had never heard of “apologetics “ before all of his sins came out. We don’t need apologetics, we need people who live out a Christian life, “taking up their cross” and following Jesus. This man was a charlatan, no two ways about it.
Sorry this doesn’t have to do with this episode. I just rewatched one of your earlier videos one the pandemic. You stated that we would most likely lose 200,000 people to the virus. ( I understand that was an estimate because no one new how this was going to turnout) What are your feelings now that we are over 500,000 lives lost? Why do you think Americans are in this position? I’d be interested to see what you think about the way our society/government has handled everything in comparison to other countries that are similar to ours but have had better outcomes. I have my own feelings but I’m not a doctor! Thank you so much for all of your work!
I really liked him but I can no longer use any of his quotes and I feel like throwing away his books. I might be drastic but this is something hard for me to process or forgive, at least for now.
Mike Winger did a video about this subject, and threw away 3 or 4 books on camera. I don't have any of his books, but recall that I enjoyed the few talks that I had heard. Don't know any quotes. I feel bad for his fans/followers, organization, family, and especially his wife. I pray that all who have been hurt by this reveal will be strong enough in their faith to continue in true faith, and not fall away. Prophecy indicates a great falling away will happen... perhaps this is part of it.
I know exactly how you feel..I also went a long way to hear him preach...the whole election 'thing' in the U.S. has had me seriously look into the Televangelists...and I'm HORRIFIED by the whole lot of them...we should have a Global Bonfire of all their products!
Don't put the books away, there is talent, like Michel Jackson might have or not pass through bad things, but his music remains a gift. This woman were in part, part, it would not have moved so far if they had given it to be a part of his request. Once again, there is no problem with being very sexual, I don't think he obligated on his privacy, surely he was odd. Id rather pay a working woman on the field and not confuse things as they are, specially having an image towards anything to the public.
@@natashamudford4011 The falling away has already happened, just look at Bakker, Copeland, White and the pastors who have replaced God with Mammon and Jesus with Trump. Is there any further that they can fall?
I was a great admirer of Ravi for many years. I can't tell you how profoundly saddened and disappointed by his actions. He was an intellectually and philosophically brilliant apologist for Christ. All tainted by his perverted behavior.
th-cam.com/video/DeOwLQeG_XA/w-d-xo.html. At 1:11 to 2:15 he (Ravi) speaking to the parliament at Bucharest says “ we always know how to define truth when we are the victim of a lie....when we are victimized by a lie, you know exactly what the truth is: when you are the instrument of untruth, you do not know what truth is...”. At 27:25. To end. :32 he talks about receiving another doctorate.....wow...
Ravi's final lesson to the world. Stop the leader worship. Having read the official report, I cant understand how the hell no one cottoned on to this except to conclude a severe blindness in all concerned. The signs were there, the signs are always there.
Such abuses are routinely covered up in religious circles (among others). This is the most unsurprising thing ever, unfortunately, but hopefully the entirety of rape culture and the culture of silence, which religion actively perpetuates btw, is changing for the better.
Am still trying to process this a year on. Like you said being his fan this puts me o such a precarious position. But am happy to know that this does not necessarily negate his message. Thank you for your explanation 🙏
I had great respect for Ravi Zacharias for many years. But there were red flags that began to bother me. Aside from his rare use of Scripture and his affirmative nod to Mormonism, I began to feel uneasy with his habit of name dropping and love for being associated with prestigious institutions and people. When I eventually learned that he hadn’t earned a legitimate doctoral degree, I could no longer listen to him. I do think he wrote some excellent books and will keep one of my favorites. It was a shock, but not a huge one, when I learned about his inappropriate and sexually abusive behaviors. His pride and deceitfulness were not hard to discern, if you allowed yourself to not be taken in by any man.
Honestly doc, I was shocked after reading the title, I jumped in and straight right away watched this video. I am fan of Ravi. He resonates Christian values, bright, apologetic and very critical. My Christian belief had not shattered after hearing this. We are human, we sin, I pray for Ravi’s soul. Whatever could have happened before his death. Could he ever by any chance ask for forgiveness? God bless his soul.
Sorry to be lighthearted on such a tragic subject - Ravi is a sad story. However I would like to suggest a larger shelf for your growing plant collection. We like it!
if you think everyone who calls themselves a Christian lives by Jesus's teachings, all the time, you are sadly mistaken. In fact, is that not the whole point of Jesus - human beings "sin" all the time, and he came to die so we could all be forgiven? And who are you to judge, I thought only God was allowed to do that?
@@jonnylumberjack6223 Forgiveness is the charlatan's get-out-of-jail-free card. A super sinner pretending to be a "man of God" makes the sin a thousand times worse.
I was raised Catholic. I don't participate in organized religion any longer, but regardless of my own beliefs or lack thereof, if there was one thing that bothered me ever since I was very young, it's Christians passing judgment on or expelling "sinners" from any Christian church. That is completely contradictory to Jesus' teachings.
As a Christian, one thing that I have learned is to be transparent with a brother in Christ about my struggles. And also, not to judge. This analyst was truly a blessing.
Thank you for addressing this subject. I am a Christian and it was a heartbreaking revelation. You spoke in a kind manner concerning a horrible situation. How true it is for Christians to keep our eyes on Christ the author and perfecter of our faith. Not people. He did inappropriate and sinful acts . He knew right from wrong. In representing himself as a Christian he was a hypocrite. Yet, Christ remains the Way the Truth and the Light. We the messengers are flawed and need to keep focused on Him. Thank you for the sensitive way you addressed today's topic. I always learn something.
For an apologist, he didn't seem to apologize very well. He says he regretted protecting himself from the "appearance of impropriety". That doesn't sound like he took responsibility.
Ravi was a great apologist. We really enjoyed his work. We are very sad for all the victims. God, help his victims and anyone who put any faith in this fallible man. I pray he sought forgiveness for his perverse ways.
I liked your perspective on his followers and how they can reconcile their faith in his message with the bad deeds he did. Reminds me of the Nietzche quote: “There is a false saying: “How can someone who can’t save himself save others?” Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?”
The messenger does not necessarily negate the message. But I think what's more important here is that A) leaders need to be accountable and B) people need to investigate the claims of leaders instead of solely relying on the word of the leader. Leader worship will almost always leave you wanting.
All very sad, I often listened to his messages and podcasts, but my faith stands on the finished work of Jesus Christ not any human. The truth in all his messages are still by definition....... still truth!
When I was out committing adultery behind my family’s back, I always felt that Grace would cover me because I was a Christian. No matter what I did with other women, I felt that God would forgive me because his word says he will. He does, but there’s a universal law of the Universe that I never took into account: You cannot scoop fire in your lap and not be burned. Since those days,.....I have been burned, disciplined and crashed more times than I can count. It’s been 13 yrs and even as you read this I am STILL paying the price for my sin. I just cry in the dark. 😕 - Mark
Let that stuff go completely! Do not mentally drag the past with you. Live in this moment and forget the past. Just learn from it and dump the thoughts and images. In this moment you are born again like a carefree child. Don't fuel the ego as a victim or victimizer. You are new and pristine in this moment! You are eternal spirit, dont allow the primitive ego to obscure it any longer!
This situation was heart breaking to a lot of Christians. Ravi was not one of the teachers I particularly looked up to but I HAVE listened to a lot of his material and appreciated his views. As a Christian myself, I tried to be gracious when the first allegations started to come out (this was BEFORE the evidence of everything came out). We all have things we struggle with and we can't expect teachers to be any different. But once the report was released showing that he wasn't just sleeping around but actually ABUSED and took advantage of these women, I was shocked. This mans material, no matter how much he contributed to Christianity, should be erased and I don't understand the people who are still defending him. I can understand the disappointment and confusion of those who came to Christianity bc of his teachings but this is just too much. The most disgusting part of this (from a Christian point of view) was the fact that he manipulated these women with their faith and actually PRAYED with them, thanking God for the opportunity to abuse them. Horrible, awful man. I can't wait for the Christian community to put Ravi Zacharias behind us and move forward with teachers who reflect the lifestyle we teach.
Outwardly he behaved like and praised Jesus. Secretly he denied Jesus by his actions all the way to the grave and was more like 'his father' then his brother Jesus. Dont worry about Christ sheep, they know His voice and will not follow a stranger!
This kind of behavior is fairly common among Evangelical preachers like Bakker, Copeland, White and others who appear to be in the ministry for power over others, and, of course, the money and other gratifications. The Protestant Reformation came about to oppose the corruption of Christianity they saw being perpetrated by the Roman Church. However when looking at the corruption of the Evangelical ministry we can see that Protestantism has followed the same path of worldly corruption that they once condemned. One of the main abominations seen by Martin Luther was the sale of salvation [indulgences], and that is exactly what many Evangelical pastors are doing, offering salvation for money and a princely lifestyle.
Bravo! Bravo! These devils must be stopped, and the communities must stop letting them hide and carry on. I tossed the one book of his in my bookcase into the recycle bin, I don't want it resold at Goodwill. Men like him, make all Christians look bad.
Chillax, do you want to pretend Ravi's lectures no longer exists? Christianity is about facing troubles and dealing with them. The man was flawed, as are we all. Stop virture signalling, deal with the realities of life.
I was a casual listener to Ravi’s recorded messages.I distinctly remember approximately 5 years ago, hearing something he said that seemed very odd, even suspicious for a “man of God.” He was speaking at an event and casually mentioned that he sometimes flies to Thailand alone, to rest and meditate. I thought that was strange that he would travel to Thailand ALONE! Thailand is generally a lovely country with even lovelier people, but it’s also a nation that has a high level of sex trafficking! So it immediately gave me pause. And further, why would he even mention that in public?!? After saying a quick prayer for Zacherias, I listened to the rest of the recording. Fast forward years later to 2020, after hearing about the accusations of sexual impropriety, I was initially shocked. Then I remembered hearing about the Thailand trips he’d make by himself, and, along with the 12 page attorneys report, I concluded that it was probably true. Besides the women that he abused, the biggest victims in all of this is his wife and family!! Terrible.
Dr Grande, you gained more huge respect from me for your balanced, honest analysis of one of my (now fallen) heroes. THANK YOU for not adding pain to those of us whose hearts were broken that our spiritual leader had feet of clay. Thank you for avoiding snide and snarky comments as many others have given. Ravi is a perfect example of why we are to put our faith in Jesus, not in humans.
Agreed.
No human being is perfect. ❤
Sam. Well said. My broken hearted sentiments as well...
Jesus was human.
@@Slampty yes, fully man and fully God. Walked the earth as us. Suffered as we suffer
Unfortunately sexual abuse is very common in religions. It’s usually just ‘swept under the rug.’
Yes, a lot.
As a Christian, this is really heartbreaking for me, but just reminds me to look up to Christ and no one else. Thank you for this video! Well done.
I feel the same way. I looked up to Ravi very much and this is a reminder that sin can creep into all our lives so we need to be extra vigilant.
Why are you Christian, give your one best reason (the one if it were proven to be incorrect you would abandon your faith).
@@tariq_sharif you seem like a nice person
Same, In Christ Alone.
I really do believe this is a stern reminder to never glorify anyone other that The Trinity. I do have a lot of respect for Paul Washer, but he is the first to say Christ alone.
His inappropriate behavior is a HUGE blow to Christianity...
I was a classmate of Ravi's. I knew him personally. I interviewed him and filmed him in my home. This was a good and fair analysis of this sad situation. Much sorrow for the victims
So you believe it's true?
@Lendyll Naicker Good question. Did he Mark?
Have you done anything on Paul Warner Powell?
The gospel doesn’t rise or fall on Ravi. The “Best” of men, are just men at best
Amen.
Amen
@@kr50401 from Jesus... people, although well intended aren’t perfect. That doesn’t excuse immoral behavior, but if God shows Grace why can we? This is the very reason we look to Jesus, not to man... first problem, of our age is making “celebrities” out of people, because at the end of the day no one is without sin, so should we throw the baby out with the bath water?
@@kr50401 how come you’re an ex believer? (I’m asking seriously btw)
Ravi thought he was the best.
He was not fake but was a giant fraud
Could you please do an analysis of Edith Bouvier Beale that lived in "Grey Gardens" in East Hampton, NY with her mother in a dilapidated mansion? People have been fascinated with that story for years since the movie and Broadway play about them.
Thank you for your thoughtfulness in making this video, Dr. Grande. Those of us who admired his views and truly believe in Jesus Christ have been horrified at the abuse he inflicted on these women, apparently for years. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian should not defend what he did.
Power and money often corrupt. My apologist reading stopped with C.S. Lewis, and I am not an evangelical, so I wasn't aware of this fellow. There are wolves in every faith's fold.
@@evelynwaugh4053 Truth.
Agree!!
@@evelynwaugh4053 A very good apologist is Josh McDowell--very smart, and not arrogant or manipulative--has written several books and I have read his biography--as an abused child he searched the Scripture when grown, to prove it was a lie--and believed--also forgiving his abusive father and developing a relationship with his Dad before his death and leading him to believe also. Josh McDowell is worth reading.
@@evelynwaugh4053 - I believe that anyone in ministry is more vulnerable to attack by the enemy of our souls.
Hypocrisy and truth are two separate entities. Even if I'm a smoker and advised others not to smoke may seem hypocritical; still, doesn't change the fact that smoking is bad for one's health and good enough reason to quit.
Billy Graham said: “Preachers are like airplanes. You only here about them when they crash.”
Good one!
No, not much is said about David Wilkerson or Angus Buchan.
Uhhh not really I’ve heard good things about Ravi for years. The silence from the evangelical community is only deafening when their religious leaders “fall” aka sexually harass women.
@@lillianbradley3483 what happened with David Wilkerson? I liked his ministry.
@@bethn9615 as someone who knew about his fall and not even one of his fans kinda speaks wonders of how they haven't kept silent.
I too was broken when I learned that Mr. Zacharias was found to be guilty of these "misdeeds". It was difficult for me to believe that such a seemingly stalwart man of God could do these things. But then I realized that we all are but sinners in the eyes of God, and we indeed have feet of clay. I truly hope that he asked God for forgiveness on his deathbed before he passed.
It is sad how much damage a man's sins can do to his work. Thank you for your clear and direct handling of this topic, Dr. Grande. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
I was looking for this comment I agree
I agree.
What sin did Ravi Z commit? Nobody seems to know. And don't tell me that opening a spa is a sin.
A Pastor who is a Wonderful Christian man, noticed this - Ravi never "quoted Scripture". Notice that Pastors, even Sunday School teachers always quote God's Holy Word as they preach /teach.
As a Christian, I appreciate this thoughtful analysis. I want to make very clear that the Christian faith is completely against and doesn’t condone any behavior like this. Thank you for separating these incidents from the ultimate message of the faith and beliefs most Christians believe in and practice.
im pretty sure dr grande is a christian so not surprising he would do that. he's coming from his own beliefs, not being logical about the situation
@@havest2 I found it to be unbiased and logical. Speculation on one’s beliefs or lack of unless already expressed is rather presumptuous in my opinion. So also is assuming that even if someone is Christian, would automatically validate this behavior.
Agreed. Great analysis presented.
@@easttowest5984 its not presumptuous he has crucifixes hanging on his wall. but apparently that makes me so odd to wonder? and it's not presumptuous for me to think the bible condones sexually violent behavior, because it does. lol The only "presumption" i appear to have made is that you read the book you claim to believe in while you ran under a bunch of your own presumptions thru assuming i had no evidence to back up my statements and also that i have never read the bible myself.
@@havest2 also presumptuous to assume someone hasn’t read the Bible who has since being a child all the way through to being an adult and taking Theology and religious studies 😉 I’m not going back and forth with you. I made a comment on a video and I stand by that. Sorry if that is upsets you.
Could you analyze the Menendez brothers.
And Ravi Zacharias bragged about never being in a car with a woman or alone in an office with a woman. He knew what to say and when to say it. Very manipulative.
If you have 2 women at one time in your car or office, it´s technically okay to brag, you would never be alone with a woman.
Yah, it adds something negative. Better to simply keep one's mouth shut rather than to compound the wrongdoing by proactively lying. He doth protest too much.
Predatory and very much like behavior a narcissist, psychopath or sociopath would have.
@@fruhbisspattv5259 ein Schwachsinnsargument perfekt ausgehebelt, sehr gut! 😃👌
@@florianstumpf4349 Haha, Danke Dir!
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As an admirer of Ravi's work (not his behavior), it's truly tragic. Good analysis of the situation. May the victims find justice and healing from the evil that has been done to them.
Were u ok with his islamophobic remarks?
@@billybob-vy4swyes of course, many people are hurt/ worse by Islam
Dr. Grande, your comparison with a criminal cop is spot on. From a Christian standpoint it is exactly the same. We know what is requiered but we sometimes find "reasons" to not obey God which is always a bad choice. That does not mean that we can not share true divine truth. There have always been such "carnal" Christians. That is why Paul is warning us to live after the flesh.
RZ already stood or stands before God, his Judge. Therefore we don't have to try to judge RZ. And let us not forgive that all of us is in need to be saved by grace through faith until we make our last breath.
This is very unfortunate my grandmother loved him and his teachings. I’m praying for the victims involved.
They follow the man with a message and that's not the same as following God or Jesus. That's the mistake innocent people like your grandmother make, sad.
I loved him too. I still do. Someone's failings shouldn't change our love for them. Disappointed, oh yes. Stop loving him, no
@@lillianbradley3483 I have a hard time loving a person who uses gullible people. You'll do what you feel comfortable with; that was my opinion. Take care.
Belief in gibberish like prayer is what led people to trust this guy.
@@lillianbradley3483 No, you definitely shouldn’t love sexual abusers.
The article in Christianity Today stated that the alleged misconduct occurred from 2005-2010 at the spa, over a decade before he died. I'm not sure why these accusers waited so long to come forward. He is not here to defend himself. Perhaps the allegations are false or he did repent. He was a great apologist. If pray these allegations are false, but it's hard to tell.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC Yes, I also was devastated by the news and just couldn't believe it. Now maybe there's hope for him that he repented and changed his ways. (i.e. if the allegations were true)
About 10 years ago I attended a talk by Zacharias on a university campus in my home town. The audience was impressed with his brilliant apologetics and philosophy. What a tragic disappointment he turned out to be. Eloquence need not be conflated with piety. There was a very well spoken man in my church who was invited by the pastor to give sermons. He preached brilliantly. Just one slight problem: he was incesting two of his children. He was exposed, banished from the church, and his wife divorced him, got full custody of their 5 kids, and took possession of their homestead and business. He wound up losing everyone and everything of value to him.
God can speak through sinners, donkeys and even stones.
I really appreciate Dr. Grande's fair-minded approach. I'm glad that his ministry investigated and admitted to the harm he had done. He clearly had a problem and instead of admitting it he abused his power to victimize people, and as a result has probably shaken some people's faith.
Billy Graham always said he would never allow himself alone in a room with a woman who wasn’t his wife. There’s a reason for this of course. Being a “man of God” doesn’t mean you are above sexual temptation. Although he was never brought to justice here on earth, Mr. Zacharias will have to answer for his actions in a court that bears far more grievous consequences.
In my mind, his misdeeds does not invalidate his message. He was a great thinker and a great apologist. That having been said, it has been incredibly disappointing to have these allegations come forth and apparently be true. Those of us who loved and honored him are extremely hurt that he would fall prey to these behaviors that are so bloody common to man. Billy Graham still stands out for his insistence that he always be accompanied by another man, in order to provide both protection and accountability.
I'm a doctor (of medicine). Some medical schools have given out honorary medical degrees, but you cannot use them to practice medicine. An honorary degree is far different from spending years becoming educated to an approved standard, or in the case of a PhD (a real doctor) such as yourself, the requirement to also teach (the word doctor is from the Latin meaning "to teach.") perform research, then write and defend a dissertation. Passing himself off as a doctor was dishonest, and purposely so. Your balanced analysis was, as always, excellent. You mix in some subtle humor in just the right places. Also, you realized that his bad acts may not diminish his message. Any of us who are parents realize we often fall short of perfection, but that does not make good teaching to our children less valid. My wife and I happen to be Catholic, and no, the Pope can't determine who goes to heaven or hell (Never was taught that he could). Priests validly confer the sacraments even in the state of mortal sin. If the priest intends on conferring the sacraments properly or preaching faithfully he does so validly, but perhaps not licitly. The message is still good, even though the messenger sucks (and so many of them do). You are wise, and the force is with you! Best wishes.
Doc you killed this analyst! Kudos and respect, it was very balanced.
I am not a Christian but had listened to him a few times. He gave me the creeps. Anyone who wields this kind of charismatic power should be approached with quite a bit of discernment. This is a good lesson for those of us who easily give away our power. To be fair, plenty of "spiritual teachers" of all stripes, whether Christian, Buddhist, Non-dual, etc, have turned out to be some not-very-well-integrated people.
That fire fighter analogy, tho? Burn!!
I’ll show myself out.
lol, Brianna :)
omg, that was such a cute and funny comment! You made me laugh so hard already , and it's only 5:45 in the morning! Hahaha! Thank you for starting my day out right! Hugs from Las Vegas!
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Lmao...
Great video. Thank you 🙏
As a longtime Dr Grande aficionado, I’ve finally accepted the brick background
Life is tough I know
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change...
Im still adjusting. The tweaks to the cacti make me nervous lol! 😂 We dislike drastic change!
Lol, one of the few things in my life I’ve really been struggling to accept. Thank you for this comment. I needed to know I wasn’t the only one hurting for the blinds. I think I’m ready now to accept as well.
As a bricklayer it always urks me. Lol Terrible straight bond in two separate courses.
@@Guitarluvar84 lol, I thought it was a faux brick backdrop.
Why everyone accuses ravi zacharias??
Can we get a psychological analysis of Pat Robertson?
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good call!
WOAH! Now that would be interesting!
That's like analyzing dry toast.
@@lillianbradley3483 and only toasted on one side (and burnt)
Can you do a video on Claire Miller
My heart is breaking 💔 😢 😪 when anyone falls from teachings of God. It's between him and God now.
Please make a Video about WHITE KNIGHTS SYNDROM
I like to be called Dr. Ray having earned my PhD as a teen, I was a Post Hole Digger.
I call myself "Esquire' cause it sounds cool.
Can do, Dr. Ray.
lol Dr. Ross
Dr Ray it is!
Sup, Dr. Ross?
A brilliant speaker whose body of work is significant and enormous by any standard. He erred and he obviously had many detractors
Your dry humor is funnier to me than most professional comedians.
I totally agree 👍
He jokes on methods of thinking as if its the right choice making it more absurd, but his pitch is smart, on the moment.
Yesss indeed
There are many valid, negative criticisms that could be said about this platform, TH-cam. But sometimes this platform functions beautifully, and both creator and viewer are the better for it, IMO. Dr. Grande is an example of TH-cam in its best existence. I love the fact that this very intelligent, but likely introverted and perhaps even shy man has found a way to reach hundreds of thousands (maybe millions, depending on certain factors). I’m so glad that Dr. Grande created his channel, and that so many of us have found and embraced him. When a person truly hits his stride in life and is able to find his niche, I feel a tremendous sense of happiness and satisfaction. 😊
It’s 50% why I’m here 😍
Lori Ann Thompson suffered terribly from what Zacahrias and his organization did to her. Also, the organization had received allegations over the years, but dismissed it, trying to protect the ministry. They didn’t want to believe it. It wasn’t just Zacharias being manipulative.
The plant grouping looks good and happy today.
Dr.Grande, maybe it's a tall order but would you please share some suggestions on how Americans can reduce hostility among differing political groups and encourage understanding and sympathy?
Life is short, we are wasting time arguing, we can do better.
Excellent request!
I like this
We start by respecting the people we disagree with, even if we greatly dislike their views.
Yes plz
I have friends who don't agree with my politics. Sometimes we agree, sometimes not. Recently I felt disrespected because one of my dearest friends unloaded on me, without giving me the chance to respond. I don't know what to do. I'm flabbergasted.
For someone who was renowned for logical reasoning, hard to comprehend that he would value his genitals more than his soul
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in a pale peach shirt like this.
Lol
Haha. I've missed your comments. I'm back on track
@@Ali-kb8gr :)
@@mrsapplez2007 Thank you so much for saying so! I hope to have my website launched with new content shortly. :)
@@lesliecas2695 I used to have a shirt just like this one! I wore it out! I could have used 10!
Thanks Dr. Grande.
Hi Dr. Grande, I was just waiting every day since this news about Ravi came to the airwaves to get your expert analysis. It was finally done today and was so precise and self explanatory. He knew what he was teaching is right. However, he violated it knowingly. Thanks for your analysis.
Again...we see the obvious relationship between religion and narcissism....and of course....abuse.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
-- Voltaire
As a Catholic I always admired Ravi Zacharias and encouraged friends to listen to him. I thought his arguments for theism and the Christian faith were very good. I once saw him speak in person. However, being Catholic and knowing what our church has gone through I knew this happens more times than not. I feel terrible and pray for the women who were just trying to make a living. They are victims of a man who at the least committed sexual misconduct and who was obviously a fraud, living a double life.
What I see is a problem is many people put these religious leaders on A Pedestal. Then they become upset.when they fall. This is why it is important to do our own research.
sadly .. we hear of these 'goings on' after he has passed. all i can tell you is that for decades i was deluded and on the wrong path, after the death of a friend that meant the world to me but was an angry man and i missed the oppotunity to witness to him, i was scattered.. my soul was in danger and my heart was bled dry... i clicked through radio stations and one of the channels had ravi's teachings on the air daily. i took great comfort in hearing his teachings. i cant blame another human for thierr fleshly sins because my past would have had him roll over in his grave.. I still love him. im sorry he had this struggle
I still believe that Ravi was sincere in his belief in God and his arguments were spot on. Like all humans, he sinned. In his case it leaves millions of people disappointed, but as Dr Grande said, his arguments were based on logic and are sound. I do not think any less of his views of Christianity and as for his personal life, it is for God to judge, not us.
I still love and respect Zacharias... He saved my life via his messages at a very difficult situation I was in 2011... His character might have been dented but his work and ministry is still intact for our generation and generations to come... I love you Ravi, continue to rest in peace.... Lots of love from me here in Nigeria, Africa
Henry, his character was not dented it was chronic and profound in its deception
The “Honorary Doctorate” Comments😂🤣😅 LOVE IT!!!
Using a position of power to engage in inappropriate behavior is disgusting. He is far from the only one in the ministry that has engaged in this behavior. He has seared his conscience .
It was criminal behavior and his ministry covered up for him.
Always a worthwhile video
Thank you for a balanced analysis, Dr. Grande. As an INTJ who grew up in a rather religious family Zacharias was a name that was heard often. I remember when the allegations that he claimed to have have been a Professor at Oxford came out and I did a bit of research and was disgusted to learn of his abuse of women. Hopefully the evangelical community can learn from this, avoid putting people on pedestals and help the survivors of abuse instead of being in denial that any abuse occurred.
Ravi was a professor, and he did speak at Oxford, so he was an "Oxford professor. "😀
@@drjcw agree, he professed to be a Christian
Could you please talk about Nick Vujicic?
Yuck. As a non American, I find this whole scene nauseating. Religion is perverse.
Amen
I’d love to hear your take on Dr. Phil.
He did one on Phil. Do a yt seach. It was really interesting.
Can you do an examination of The My Pillow Guy please Dr. Grande? Epic shirt btw
I think he did, did he? It was a man who had a company of pillows and supported Trump, is it the same guy?
Yes he did. My bad. Thanks for the correction.
Lol yes! My grandmother bought a my pillow and it hurt her neck so bad after a week of using it she had to go to the doctor. Then she told my husband that he could have it, and he raved about it until a few weeks later he started having major neck pain.
I really like Dr Grandes videos, he sheds light on issues and topics I never knew existed. Like I knew a little bit about an issue, then Dr Grande blows the details wide open, love it....
Do people in this category qualify as victims: massage therapists who give a massage that includes sexual favors and accept extra pay for it and keep it a secret over a long period of time so that their customer will return for more massages?
I think some people did come forth but were not believed. I have to admit that you make a good point about anyone who agreed to a return visit. Did that happen with anyone? It's hard to make judgments when we don't really know the circumstances.
Oh, don't ask those kind of questions...get you in big trouble 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ravi and his wife attended our Missionary Alliance Church back in the 80's. But we rarely saw Ravi. He was always away.
They asked him to preach on Sunday night, so he did. But it wasn't about the Bible; just human philosophy. I wondered, what's the point.
I'm sorry for the way Ravi chose to go in. I can't imagine the pain this must be for them.
Was Ravi a true Christian? A lot have agonized over this question.
Only God knows Ravis' true heart. But I know what it's like when I fail the Lord. I've known Him for 48 years.
Throughout those years, I've failed the Lord many times; felt His gentle rebuke, and His fiery rebuke. But I always hated my sin. I ran from it. Because if I didn't, God's Word would be like a burning Sword into my heart. 😥
God is abundant in mercy. He convicts of sin - brings you to tears - then comforts our broken hearts and counts our tears.
That is the historical path of true Christianity, when people understood their sins bring guilt before God and very serious consequences to those who treat God with contempt.
But this??? To just continue in a never-ending obsession with sex, and abusing others with such cruel manipulation; and still think you're a true servant of God? When pigs fly. 🐷
There's nothing new about this. It was shocking because Ravi came in under the Banner of true Bible churches. And we've become far too gullible and easily led, to recognize any wolf or know what to do if we find one.
Acts 20:29-31
"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock."
"Even from your own number, men will arise and distort the Truth 📜 in order to draw away disciples after them."
"So be on your guard. Remember that for three years, I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears."
"Now I commit you to God and to the Word of His grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified."
I'm really torn. I wish to say that the fact he engaged in habitual, grievous sin didn't mean his messages were wrong. Yet I know there are victims out there enduring the consequences. What's most disturbing was the predatory nature of his actions. They seemed premeditated 😞
Reminds me of King David except for the part that King David was a man after God’s heart, had repented and suffered the consequences of his sins throughout his life into old age.
Every circle doesn't recognize science. But they should.
I liked that title. hypocrisy doesn't negate a fact, or a logical argument. this title cuts thorough "bias" and flawed thinking
Ravi Zacharias didn’t have a logical argument, though.
@@icturner23 maybe you're right but regardless, the worldview he represented had enough of them. :)
@@icturner23 I'll take the bait. Go for it and explain what you mean.
I'm 😢 and sad about rzim. As a Christian I have to examine my own sinfulness and a daily repentance. I believed rzim was never saved because he has a lot of knowledge but no repentance heart.
This was a difficult shortcoming to witness. However, Ravi's behavior has been exemplified so many times within the Bible, from Moses to Peter. David broke all ten commandments, and yet continually returned to what he had left behind. Ravi inspired millions and helped them learn how to navigate important and contentious issues with grace, humility, intellectual integrity.
"The moral shortcomings of the wise and experienced do not invalidate their wisdom; it simply renders it bittersweet."
really? yuck. i'm very glad my brain does not work like yours.
Well spoken, thank you! When we become Believers, as Christians, we still have flaws and sin. It can take a lifetime just to get the basics! Were only human beings on earth, with hearts and souls redeemed by Jesus Sacrifice. Keeping The Commandments Didn’t work; that’s why Jesus came , once for all. ❤️
Invalidates it to me. It cast a dark shadow on all religious leaders as phonies yet to be exposed. Hypocrisy = LIES from a liar. Period.
Research the history of Christianity. Please seek out information that doesn't only confirm your religious faith. Con artists use religion on the gullible to fill their own pockets. Don't make any apologies for these scum bags. Ravi is not someone to look up to.
@@MicahBuzanANIMATION What makes you think that I haven't? His trespasses were abhorrent, and he passed without having made public amends. But the Bible also says that all truth is known to man, and even the most corrupt individual can parrot a useful truth. Let's suppose that Ravi wrote a book while being (relatively) pure; how should we judge that piece of literature?
I am sad about Ravi, but we all have sinned. Let the man with no sin throw the first stone.
You have just shown what it means to be an authentic religious or spritual person.
Being non-judgmental and forgiving.
That does not mean condoning the behavior.
You project kindness and a warm heart!
Wonderful and beautiful!
As the President of the Honorary Doctorate Recipients Association of America (HyDRA), I find it deeply offensive. We have many distinguished members - Dr. Evil, Dr. Strange, Dr Who. etc. It is time for "real" doctorates to stop pissing on us and get back to writing those grant proposals.
Official killer comment of this vid.
Does Dr. Seuss have the proper credentials?
Ha! You got me for a second
Good one!
Given his level of intellect (only) ,he has surpassed mere paper that many PhD holders possess.
As a spirit-filled Christian, I find this so disturbing. I had never heard of “apologetics “ before all of his sins came out. We don’t need apologetics, we need people who live out a Christian life, “taking up their cross” and following Jesus. This man was a charlatan, no two ways about it.
Dr. Grande, would you please analyze the movie My Dinner with Andre (1981)? ...I mean, what the hell did I just watch?
@@IvorMektin1701 😂
Sorry this doesn’t have to do with this episode. I just rewatched one of your earlier videos one the pandemic. You stated that we would most likely lose 200,000 people to the virus. ( I understand that was an estimate because no one new how this was going to turnout) What are your feelings now that we are over 500,000 lives lost? Why do you think Americans are in this position? I’d be interested to see what you think about the way our society/government has handled everything in comparison to other countries that are similar to ours but have had better outcomes. I have my own feelings but I’m not a doctor! Thank you so much for all of your work!
I really liked him but I can no longer use any of his quotes and I feel like throwing away his books. I might be drastic but this is something hard for me to process or forgive, at least for now.
Mike Winger did a video about this subject, and threw away 3 or 4 books on camera. I don't have any of his books, but recall that I enjoyed the few talks that I had heard. Don't know any quotes.
I feel bad for his fans/followers, organization, family, and especially his wife. I pray that all who have been hurt by this reveal will be strong enough in their faith to continue in true faith, and not fall away. Prophecy indicates a great falling away will happen... perhaps this is part of it.
I know exactly how you feel..I also went a long way to hear him preach...the whole election 'thing' in the U.S. has had me seriously look into the Televangelists...and I'm HORRIFIED by the whole lot of them...we should have a Global Bonfire of all their products!
Don't put the books away, there is talent, like Michel Jackson might have or not pass through bad things, but his music remains a gift. This woman were in part, part, it would not have moved so far if they had given it to be a part of his request. Once again, there is no problem with being very sexual, I don't think he obligated on his privacy, surely he was odd. Id rather pay a working woman on the field and not confuse things as they are, specially having an image towards anything to the public.
@@SujaaniPrem there's a problem when he's a minister...
@@natashamudford4011 The falling away has already happened, just look at Bakker, Copeland, White and the pastors who have replaced God with Mammon and Jesus with Trump. Is there any further that they can fall?
I was a great admirer of Ravi for many years. I can't tell you how profoundly saddened and disappointed by his actions. He was an intellectually and philosophically brilliant apologist for Christ. All tainted by his perverted behavior.
th-cam.com/video/DeOwLQeG_XA/w-d-xo.html. At 1:11 to 2:15 he (Ravi) speaking to the parliament at Bucharest says “ we always know how to define truth when we are the victim of a lie....when we are victimized by a lie, you know exactly what the truth is: when you are the instrument of untruth, you do not know what truth is...”. At 27:25. To end. :32 he talks about receiving another doctorate.....wow...
His story had a happy ending.
Rim shot! 🥁
@@erikparent8176 oh you did not just write that! 🤣
Ravi's final lesson to the world.
Stop the leader worship.
Having read the official report, I cant understand how the hell no one cottoned on to this except to conclude a severe blindness in all concerned. The signs were there, the signs are always there.
Such abuses are routinely covered up in religious circles (among others). This is the most unsurprising thing ever, unfortunately, but hopefully the entirety of rape culture and the culture of silence, which religion actively perpetuates btw, is changing for the better.
"....the answer can be found if one can figure out the difference between ten times zero and a million times zero." 😂 Loved that one!
Excellent!
"I'm definitely diagnosing and speculating about what I'd like to happen in a situation like this" - Dr. Phil
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Ravi actually held 3 degrees.....
B.S., M.S., and PhD.
(Bull S**t, More S**t, Piled high [and] Deep)
Am still trying to process this a year on. Like you said being his fan this puts me o such a precarious position. But am happy to know that this does not necessarily negate his message. Thank you for your explanation 🙏
I had great respect for Ravi Zacharias for many years. But there were red flags that began to bother me. Aside from his rare use of Scripture and his affirmative nod to Mormonism, I began to feel uneasy with his habit of name dropping and love for being associated with prestigious institutions and people. When I eventually learned that he hadn’t earned a legitimate doctoral degree, I could no longer listen to him. I do think he wrote some excellent books and will keep one of my favorites.
It was a shock, but not a huge one, when I learned about his inappropriate and sexually abusive behaviors. His pride and deceitfulness were not hard to discern, if you allowed yourself to not be taken in by any man.
Honestly doc, I was shocked after reading the title, I jumped in and straight right away watched this video. I am fan of Ravi. He resonates Christian values, bright, apologetic and very critical. My Christian belief had not shattered after hearing this. We are human, we sin, I pray for Ravi’s soul. Whatever could have happened before his death. Could he ever by any chance ask for forgiveness? God bless his soul.
Sorry to be lighthearted on such a tragic subject - Ravi is a sad story. However I would like to suggest a larger shelf for your growing plant collection. We like it!
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande.
By their fruits you should know them states the holy Bible.
He was not a Christian.
Phony charlatan is all he was.
if you think everyone who calls themselves a Christian lives by Jesus's teachings, all the time, you are sadly mistaken. In fact, is that not the whole point of Jesus - human beings "sin" all the time, and he came to die so we could all be forgiven? And who are you to judge, I thought only God was allowed to do that?
@@jonnylumberjack6223 Forgiveness is the charlatan's get-out-of-jail-free card. A super sinner pretending to be a "man of God" makes the sin a thousand times worse.
I was raised Catholic. I don't participate in organized religion any longer, but regardless of my own beliefs or lack thereof, if there was one thing that bothered me ever since I was very young, it's Christians passing judgment on or expelling "sinners" from any Christian church. That is completely contradictory to Jesus' teachings.
@@jonnylumberjack6223 THANK YOU!!!!
As a Christian, one thing that I have learned is to be transparent with a brother in Christ about my struggles. And also, not to judge. This analyst was truly a blessing.
That's good I'm a believer too.
@@ay613 that's what up!
Thank you for addressing this subject. I am a Christian and it was a heartbreaking revelation. You spoke in a kind manner concerning a horrible situation. How true it is for Christians to keep our eyes on Christ the author and perfecter of our faith. Not people. He did inappropriate and sinful acts . He knew right from wrong. In representing himself as a Christian he was a hypocrite. Yet, Christ remains the Way the Truth and the Light. We the messengers are flawed and need to keep focused on Him. Thank you for the sensitive way you addressed today's topic. I always learn something.
For an apologist, he didn't seem to apologize very well. He says he regretted protecting himself from the "appearance of impropriety". That doesn't sound like he took responsibility.
Please analyse John Maccarthur. There is too much smoke around him!
I second that suggestion!!!
Ravi was a great apologist. We really enjoyed his work. We are very sad for all the victims. God, help his victims and anyone who put any faith in this fallible man. I pray he sought forgiveness for his perverse ways.
I liked your perspective on his followers and how they can reconcile their faith in his message with the bad deeds he did. Reminds me of the Nietzche quote: “There is a false saying: “How can someone who can’t save himself save others?” Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?”
The messenger does not necessarily negate the message. But I think what's more important here is that A) leaders need to be accountable and B) people need to investigate the claims of leaders instead of solely relying on the word of the leader. Leader worship will almost always leave you wanting.
All very sad, I often listened to his messages and podcasts, but my faith stands on the finished work of Jesus Christ not any human. The truth in all his messages are still by definition....... still truth!
Jesus was human. Just a normal, immoral man. God doesn’t exist.
Any chance of vid on F Budd Dwyer - the politician who blew his head off on live TV ?
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, the big plants back, it's alive, it's alive, praise the Lord.
When I was out committing adultery behind my family’s back, I always felt that Grace would cover me because I was a Christian. No matter what I did with other women, I felt that God would forgive me because his word says he will. He does, but there’s a universal law of the Universe that I never took into account: You cannot scoop fire in your lap and not be burned. Since those days,.....I have been burned, disciplined and crashed more times than I can count. It’s been 13 yrs and even as you read this I am STILL paying the price for my sin.
I just cry in the dark. 😕
- Mark
Let that stuff go completely!
Do not mentally drag the past with you.
Live in this moment and forget the past.
Just learn from it and dump the thoughts and images.
In this moment you are born again like a carefree child.
Don't fuel the ego as a victim or victimizer.
You are new and pristine in this moment!
You are eternal spirit, dont allow the primitive ego to obscure it any longer!
This situation was heart breaking to a lot of Christians. Ravi was not one of the teachers I particularly looked up to but I HAVE listened to a lot of his material and appreciated his views. As a Christian myself, I tried to be gracious when the first allegations started to come out (this was BEFORE the evidence of everything came out). We all have things we struggle with and we can't expect teachers to be any different. But once the report was released showing that he wasn't just sleeping around but actually ABUSED and took advantage of these women, I was shocked. This mans material, no matter how much he contributed to Christianity, should be erased and I don't understand the people who are still defending him. I can understand the disappointment and confusion of those who came to Christianity bc of his teachings but this is just too much. The most disgusting part of this (from a Christian point of view) was the fact that he manipulated these women with their faith and actually PRAYED with them, thanking God for the opportunity to abuse them. Horrible, awful man. I can't wait for the Christian community to put Ravi Zacharias behind us and move forward with teachers who reflect the lifestyle we teach.
Outwardly he behaved like and praised Jesus. Secretly he denied Jesus by his actions all the way to the grave and was more like 'his father' then his brother Jesus. Dont worry about Christ sheep, they know His voice and will not follow a stranger!
This kind of behavior is fairly common among Evangelical preachers like Bakker, Copeland, White and others who appear to be in the ministry for power over others, and, of course, the money and other gratifications. The Protestant Reformation came about to oppose the corruption of Christianity they saw being perpetrated by the Roman Church. However when looking at the corruption of the Evangelical ministry we can see that Protestantism has followed the same path of worldly corruption that they once condemned. One of the main abominations seen by Martin Luther was the sale of salvation [indulgences], and that is exactly what many Evangelical pastors are doing, offering salvation for money and a princely lifestyle.
Bravo! Bravo! These devils must be stopped, and the communities must stop letting them hide and carry on.
I tossed the one book of his in my bookcase into the recycle bin, I don't want it resold at Goodwill. Men like him, make all Christians look bad.
@@jamesinnitbruv I didnt find his message as "feel good" or fluff.
Chillax, do you want to pretend Ravi's lectures no longer exists? Christianity is about facing troubles and dealing with them. The man was flawed, as are we all. Stop virture signalling, deal with the realities of life.
I was a casual listener to Ravi’s recorded messages.I distinctly remember approximately 5 years ago, hearing something he said that seemed very odd, even suspicious for a “man of God.” He was speaking at an event and casually mentioned that he sometimes flies to Thailand alone, to rest and meditate. I thought that was strange that he would travel to Thailand ALONE! Thailand is generally a lovely country with even lovelier people, but it’s also a nation that has a high level of sex trafficking! So it immediately gave me pause. And further, why would he even mention that in public?!? After saying a quick prayer for Zacherias, I listened to the rest of the recording. Fast forward years later to 2020, after hearing about the accusations of sexual impropriety, I was initially shocked. Then I remembered hearing about the Thailand trips he’d make by himself, and, along with the 12 page attorneys report, I concluded that it was probably true. Besides the women that he abused, the biggest victims in all of this is his wife and family!! Terrible.