Thee wing sweep on the Me262 was not for aerodynamics, it was for weight an balance: They needed to get the aircraft CG farther aft without moving the CG of the engines.
Yes, the video is completely inaccurate about the barely swept wing being chosen for high speed performance. Another TH-cam channel that doesn't do proper research and just regurgitates the usual uninformed narrative. On Feb 8 1940 there was a meeting on 262 project definition and construction status. Woldemar Voight, head of the M262 design team, stated in a later interview that that the reason for choosing the straight wing had nothing to do with high-speed aerodynamics. Voight: “BWM soon ascertained that is turbojet would be still larger and appreciably heavier than the company’s least sanguine revised calculations had suggested, thus presenting us with serious centre of gravity problems. Aircraft development had progressed too far for us to dramatically revise its layout and we were forced to introduce what we considered a somewhat inelegant ‘fix’ in the form of swept outer wing panels to resolve the CG difficulties presented by the heavier engines. Thus, it was to be purely fortuitous that the Me262 was to become the world first operational fighter featuring wing sweepback; a radical departure that, at this stage at least, reflected no attempt to reduce the effects of compressibility.” Dan Sharp's book contains documents illustrating that only the outer wing panels were swept to resolve this issue. It was much later that it was decided to extend the leading edge of the inboard panels to match the same minor sweepback angle. Much later on they there were experiments exploring the characteristics of more highly swept wings on the 262 wind tunnel models, but that was use of the 262 design as a base for research that had nothing to do with the design of the 262 then in production.
This channel never knows what it is talking about. It patches together phrases seen elsewhere that it doesn't understand into a word salad it thinks sounds impressive.
Heard about this jet plane. As I understand it, the upper crust in the Nazi Government early on thought that WWII would have been done and finished in just a year or two. This plane was put on the back burner for a few years.
Of the 1430 Messerschmitt Me 262 built, 542 where shot down with the claimed kills of 509 that is a 1:1 kill ratio.....to little, to late and not bloody good! Rule Britannia, then America got into the game....The Nazis didn't stand a chance!
Always love the claim of the German who invented the engines, in fact it’s a stupid British Patent failure as Sir Frank Whittle designed and built both types of jet engines but the lack of £5 that the RAF refused to pay to keep the invention allowed Germany to acquire all drawings then take up a Patent of their own on the British design. Strangely they chose the most difficult and unreliable short life version. Whittle went on to prove the better design eventually sidelined by Rolls Royce and Bristol who were given the right by Government. Whittles Company eventually got swallowed by both manufacturers with RR eventually being given Bristol Engines.
With a patent, the design would be public, and Germany had no compunction about violating British Patent law. Better to keep the design un-patented and secret.
@ if you read the history of Sir Frank Whittle and his jet design, Germany infringed no design patent they too the option of a lapsed British design patent and used it. Whittle was shafted all the way by the British Government as well as Rover cars who thought what he was saying about materials were a joke, eventually the Rover Jet factory was passed to Rolls Royce who again did Whittle over. He had even been shafted by a scientist who became a minister who could not get his own gas turbine to work. In the 60s it was questioned as to why Whittle worked for America improving design, like Barnes Wallis he had enough of British lack of trust. No wonder we lost so many innovators abroad.
Click baiting with a photo of the AR 234, poor taste! Also, the Me 262 prototype had conventional tail dragger) landing gear. Hitler forced the change to Tricycle gear when he demanded the 262 be a multi-role aircraft instead of a straight fighter. Lucky for the allies, that change delayed deployment. Had the original gone active when it was first built, the war might have gone quite different.
sure it did- the B 29 entered service June of 44- the 262 entered service April 44. If you knew from your intelligence services that the B29 was in development you would not wait until you saw one to develop your countermeasures
better hope those troops can win in less than 2 months cause trump just got elected here in the usa and we dont want him to keep funding a war that was avoidable from the start
@@Ob1sdarkside um you cant honestly act like the ukrainian gov is innocent in this whole mess it is well known internationally that the ukrainian government had been mistreating ethnic russians that were living in the disputed region for a long time one could argue that germanys invasion of poland at the onset of ww2 was for the same reason it is also known that your president was coerced into not using diplomatic solutions by a combination of the biden white house and britains prime minister boris johnson through promises of support and leading your government along with the hopes of joining nato which seeking to join nato violates a treaty ukraine had with russia so ukraine is not faultless in the mess and anyone from the outside can see that both sides are at fault i dont support either side and think that doing so is a waste of usa taxpayer dollars and the sanctions placed on russia have done more to hurt people world wide by driving fuel cost up more than it has helped ukraine sadly the people in both your country and russia are the ones who have to pay the price for your government getting manipulated into not negotiating to avoid war all so that wealthy law makers in the west can make money of of weapon sales for a new conflict
Deciving thumbnail as it shows an Arado Ar234
Good comment. I am convinced that some creators are so self-centred that they don't care what they do.
Yep, I couldn't be bothered watching the video because of this.
Thee wing sweep on the Me262 was not for aerodynamics, it was for weight an balance: They needed to get the aircraft CG farther aft without moving the CG of the engines.
Yes, the video is completely inaccurate about the barely swept wing being chosen for high speed performance. Another TH-cam channel that doesn't do proper research and just regurgitates the usual uninformed narrative.
On Feb 8 1940 there was a meeting on 262 project definition and construction status. Woldemar Voight, head of the M262 design team, stated in a later interview that that the reason for choosing the straight wing had nothing to do with high-speed aerodynamics.
Voight: “BWM soon ascertained that is turbojet would be still larger and appreciably heavier than the company’s least sanguine revised calculations had suggested, thus presenting us with serious centre of gravity problems. Aircraft development had progressed too far for us to dramatically revise its layout and we were forced to introduce what we considered a somewhat inelegant ‘fix’ in the form of swept outer wing panels to resolve the CG difficulties presented by the heavier engines. Thus, it was to be purely fortuitous that the Me262 was to become the world first operational fighter featuring wing sweepback; a radical departure that, at this stage at least, reflected no attempt to reduce the effects of compressibility.”
Dan Sharp's book contains documents illustrating that only the outer wing panels were swept to resolve this issue. It was much later that it was decided to extend the leading edge of the inboard panels to match the same minor sweepback angle. Much later on they there were experiments exploring the characteristics of more highly swept wings on the 262 wind tunnel models, but that was use of the 262 design as a base for research that had nothing to do with the design of the 262 then in production.
It was a compromise. Ever do any design work?
The nose gear retracted AFT into the fuselage, not forward!
The airflow into the intake can not be supersonic if the aircraft is only capable of 540mph.
This channel never knows what it is talking about. It patches together phrases seen elsewhere that it doesn't understand into a word salad it thinks sounds impressive.
Here it is 80 years later & this jet is still so beautiful.
Inaccurate info. Wrong description of locations of parts of the fuselage. Pictures are not synchronized with dialogue.
Heard about this jet plane. As I understand it, the upper crust in the Nazi Government early on thought that WWII would have been done and finished in just a year or two. This plane was put on the back burner for a few years.
Yup... also Hitler butted in as usual, insisting it be a fighter/bomber, delaying it even further!
Of the 1430 Messerschmitt Me 262 built, 542 where shot down with the claimed kills of 509 that is a 1:1 kill ratio.....to little, to late and not bloody good! Rule Britannia, then America got into the game....The Nazis didn't stand a chance!
Good video. Well done
Always love the claim of the German who invented the engines, in fact it’s a stupid British Patent failure as Sir Frank Whittle designed and built both types of jet engines but the lack of £5 that the RAF refused to pay to keep the invention allowed Germany to acquire all drawings then take up a Patent of their own on the British design. Strangely they chose the most difficult and unreliable short life version.
Whittle went on to prove the better design eventually sidelined by Rolls Royce and Bristol who were given the right by Government. Whittles Company eventually got swallowed by both manufacturers with RR eventually being given Bristol Engines.
With a patent, the design would be public, and Germany had no compunction about violating British Patent law. Better to keep the design un-patented and secret.
@ if you read the history of Sir Frank Whittle and his jet design, Germany infringed no design patent they too the option of a lapsed British design patent and used it. Whittle was shafted all the way by the British Government as well as Rover cars who thought what he was saying about materials were a joke, eventually the Rover Jet factory was passed to Rolls Royce who again did Whittle over. He had even been shafted by a scientist who became a minister who could not get his own gas turbine to work.
In the 60s it was questioned as to why Whittle worked for America improving design, like Barnes Wallis he had enough of British lack of trust. No wonder we lost so many innovators abroad.
Rarely have I seen anything with so much absolutely and obviously wrong information, what a waste! Channel blocked.
Poorly researched and riddled with errors.
bomber armour......what armour would that be.....the army helmets the crew wore?....
I'm gonna assume you're being facetious...
Click baiting with a photo of the AR 234, poor taste! Also, the Me 262 prototype had conventional tail dragger) landing gear. Hitler forced the change to Tricycle gear when he demanded the 262 be a multi-role aircraft instead of a straight fighter. Lucky for the allies, that change delayed deployment. Had the original gone active when it was first built, the war might have gone quite different.
B29 didn't exist yet. Bit of Over Kill for B17s.
sure it did- the B 29 entered service June of 44- the 262 entered service April 44. If you knew from your intelligence services that the B29 was in development you would not wait until you saw one to develop your countermeasures
TO much wrong info and showing german fighters shot down while talking about allied fighters.
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better hope those troops can win in less than 2 months cause trump just got elected here in the usa and we dont want him to keep funding a war that was avoidable from the start
@@paktahnavoidable by just giving in to an invader?
@@Ob1sdarkside um you cant honestly act like the ukrainian gov is innocent in this whole mess it is well known internationally that the ukrainian government had been mistreating ethnic russians that were living in the disputed region for a long time one could argue that germanys invasion of poland at the onset of ww2 was for the same reason it is also known that your president was coerced into not using diplomatic solutions by a combination of the biden white house and britains prime minister boris johnson through promises of support and leading your government along with the hopes of joining nato which seeking to join nato violates a treaty ukraine had with russia so ukraine is not faultless in the mess and anyone from the outside can see that both sides are at fault i dont support either side and think that doing so is a waste of usa taxpayer dollars and the sanctions placed on russia have done more to hurt people world wide by driving fuel cost up more than it has helped ukraine sadly the people in both your country and russia are the ones who have to pay the price for your government getting manipulated into not negotiating to avoid war all so that wealthy law makers in the west can make money of of weapon sales for a new conflict
Trump will stop the support. He love Putin