I think my favorite thing about BG3 is how it feels like it isn't /just/ your story. Like, yes, you are the main character but your companion's stories and their development impacts the world as much as yours does. I love how their stories do not revolve around me but the way I interact with them also affects the choices they make. I'm so completely immersed in this game. I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough, almost 170 hours in, and I'm still enjoying it so much. Which is crazy, considering how easily I get tired of playing video games.
It's such a well written game from all aspects, but the stories for the companions and how they interact with eachother, even in just the little conversations they have in the overworld, do so much for making them feel deep and well developed
We Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberponk enjoyers live in a really difficult time. I'm 130 hours into my first BG3 playthrough and just started a new Cyberpunk playthrough in preperation for Phantom Liberty. I do not have enough time to enjoy both as much as I want to, but I guess I won't have to play anything else for the next 4 months...
@@paradox4780 Suprised somebody would ask, but yes. I finished both. I now sit at a comfortable 225 hours in Baldurs Gate 3 and 232 hours in Cyberpunk. I will go back to both of those games in due time aswell.
@@skubo same dude, same. I'll forget about them for months then suddenly be almost as sucked in as the first time again. It really is something special.
It's a very polished, very well designed RPG. I think it's pretty deserving of the obsession the internet has for it, but that still doesn't mean it's for everyone. Even the best pizza won't impress someone that doesn't like pizza
You can find the opening cinematic in many places which sets up the basics of the main character's situation at the start of the game. Beyond that the game is a pretty good representation of D&D fifth edition rules. It has incredibly deep and complicated acting by a large number of actors. At no point are you forced into any course of action, except at the very beginning when you are in what passes for the game's tutorial. You can always choose to act in a good, bad or "grey" manner as long as you are prepared to live with the outcome. As someone who has been playing PC RPG's for a very long time BG3 is, IMO, the best one since at least Witcher 3 and the best cRPG ever.
Bg3 is a blast. Currently on a fighter/warlock (will probably go pure fighter for that good 3 attacks per turn, max 9 assuming action surge and haste has been applied). Very generic good guy type of character. Finally nearly beaten the game. On act 2 i also have a dragonborn DU bard which is also a blast to play. My guy just constantly roasts people.
Honestly BG3 is my first time having played a Fighter, and it totally makes sense to me now why Fighter is, I think, the most common class in 5e. It's just so reliable
btw for some reason the extra attack on warlock pact blade and extra attack on fighter stack. So fighter/warlock is probably the third best melee dps after a stacked barbarian/fighter and paladin/warlock cuz you can drop a hex then three big attacks in one round. Wyll with fighter/warlock and the legendary rapier was dishing out 4 attacks a turn while having access to hex and Warlock casting. Paladin/Warlock is insane tho bc you get 3 atttacks and you can use your warlock spell slots to drop some nasty ass high-level smites that recharge on long rest. dropping two lvl 3 smites and a lvl 2 smite in one turn deletes pretty much anything and you get the lvl 3 smites back with a quick little rest. it alos lets you drop str to rely entirely on charisma for melee attacks and damage and casting *and* speech checks while being the best melee dps int he game.
You can pickpocket all of the gold you've paid to Withers off of him, and there aren't any consequences for failing. Not only is that free respecs... but it's technically free money via the hirelings if you sell their gear.
DOS2 has some great companions that I really think you missed out on playing with a group. Just like BG3, the companions all have different morals, and of course the option to persuade them to go along with yours. You can tell so much work went into the writing, even if they improved for BG3, and well as it being Larians first game with full voice acting I think they knocked it out of the park. The main story is ok, but I found most of my fun interacting with my party, companions who you can also choose to romance and have their own unique quest lines that can lead you to encounters you might have missed before. With how passionate you seem about BG3 I would really recommend giving DOS2 another try on your own or maybe with just one other friend so you can appreciate its amazing companions just like you have with BG3.
Got 150 hours of pure joy just from my first playthrough, and plan to start my second later today (something I've never done in a rpg before) and couldn't be more excited. This game is truly something special! Love the video too
Honestly, if you go in to with the idea that it's a Character Driven Story game that just happens to be isometric, I think you might have an alright time, then
Maybe a bit late to the table (a year late) but I've been binging your content and had to offer 2cts - I didn't vibe with DOSII either. I didn't even get to the parts where you find out any of the story or talk to the people; it was all just overwhelming and immediate power, everyone was volatile and there were 2000 different abilities everywhere. It was just too much. Compare and contrast that with BG3 giving you time to get to know your character's two abilities before it sets you free to woo whoever you want and still be able to just auto-attack your way to victory, and... bam. Way better delivery method for essentially the same system. P.S. Thanks for the serotonin, bud.
BG is rich and deep with focus. The 3rd act is a little too busy…but maybe not. I haven’t even finished the game yet and I am planning my next run with a completely different player type with a different attitude.
Just felt like mentioning that, as someone else who has bounced off Divinity: Original Sin 2 so far, my first experience with Larian Studios was actually Divinity: Dragon Commander. Nothing quite like playing a RTS/third person dragon RPG/turn-based strategic game/dating sim.
I actually did make Astarion a barbarian in my evil playthrough... it worked surprisingly well actually, considering his free no-action bite and the happy buff it gives. Also, I literally didnt finish the game for the first time until I got past the 600 hour mark, and by that point I'd played so much that I just confidently made that run an honor mode run. Game's crazy for how much there is to do and see in it before even caring to actually finish it.
I personally think Larian has a real weakness when it comes to writing main quests, but their world building, gameplay, and characters are all so good, i tend to just ignore the main storyline except to advance to the next area
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 had a very different feel from 3, but they were both phenomenal games back in the day. There was a thriving modding community too, and one of the two best romances I've ever played hands down was a fan mod for BG2. (The other one was Alistar in DA:O). The vanilla romances in BG1 and 2 were... not great, so I'm glad they fixed that in 3 (but man was Gale disappointing lol).
Your insinuation that D:OS2 is just depressing and lacking in levity is so completely absurd that I don’t even know what to say. Like there’s literally a squirrel that follows you around on an animal skeleton calling you his “shield” because he’s on some quixotic quest to save the world from the Great Acorn. The game is jam packed with jokes, sarcasm, and all-around levity. There’s even a snarky joke option for just about every dialogue choice! I’m honestly just confused as to how you could have played for over 100 hours and still walked away thinking there was no levity. So bizarre. Oh, and you can also pet the dog in D:OS2! And when you do, best boi Buddy swoons and says he loves you.
I kind of feel like D:OS2 is a lot weaker if played in four player coop, you loose the best charakters to the other players, evan worse if no one is a origin charakter. Add to it that the world is like mentioned in the video at a bit of a down point (D:OS1 was at a way happier point).
While you're not wrong, personally I didn't vibe with the comedic moments present in DOS2 as much as I did with Baldur's Gate 3 for some reason, (with the squirrel you mentioned ironically being the most egregious example; it felt a little "LOL so random" for my liking) so I can relate with Thane regarding Rivellon feeling bleak. This issue is further exacerbated by the fact that the game makes you feel powerless by often throwing you into situations where no matter what you do someone will end up drawing the short end of the stick for absolutely no reason (which is strange, since I usually don't mind grim dark stories in other games). Now don't get me wrong, the game is still pretty good (even if it may not be one of my favorites), I'm mostly pointing out that there a valid reasons to dislike DOS2's writing.
I can tell that your favorite character is most likely Karlach. Mine's Astarion. :3. His story, especially the trauma that he suffers at the hands of his abusive Master Cazador, is _so compelling._ They don't _glorify_ his trauma, they don't _demonize_ it and blame him as the victim. The game developers treat him (and the other characters) as _real, whole, genuine human beings._ They don't _romanticize_ Astarion's or any other character's trauma, they don't _trivialize_ it. They make it seem _real,_ _genuine,_ and just... _Normal._ They make Astarion's trauma seem _normal._ And I think that that is _astoundingly refreshing,_ especially in a RPG game like this. And I'm sure that those who've suffered from trauma and abusers like Astarion did _also_ feel like this. That they feel _relieved_ abuse and trauma is being _normalized,_ and treated as something to _not_ be _demonized,_ to not be _trivialized_ or ignored or anything like that. Also, am I the only one who thinks that Astarion reminds them _greatly_ of Angel Dust from _Hazbin Hotel,_ and vice versa? 😂.
Even if I played this game, Armored Core 6 would probably stay as my GOTY. Sorry, but I prefer giant mechs fighting each other with absurd weapons and a story that is about existential crises and what it means to be a person. This doesn't have any of the things that I enjoy the most. I came here to see if I could maybe like it, but walked away disappointed.
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I think my favorite thing about BG3 is how it feels like it isn't /just/ your story. Like, yes, you are the main character but your companion's stories and their development impacts the world as much as yours does. I love how their stories do not revolve around me but the way I interact with them also affects the choices they make. I'm so completely immersed in this game. I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough, almost 170 hours in, and I'm still enjoying it so much. Which is crazy, considering how easily I get tired of playing video games.
It's such a well written game from all aspects, but the stories for the companions and how they interact with eachother, even in just the little conversations they have in the overworld, do so much for making them feel deep and well developed
We Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberponk enjoyers live in a really difficult time. I'm 130 hours into my first BG3 playthrough and just started a new Cyberpunk playthrough in preperation for Phantom Liberty. I do not have enough time to enjoy both as much as I want to, but I guess I won't have to play anything else for the next 4 months...
I feel like games have been pretty hit or miss for me this year, and suddenly I've been so sucked in to those two, it's nuts
You wrap up those playthroughs yet? Lol
@@paradox4780 Suprised somebody would ask, but yes. I finished both. I now sit at a comfortable 225 hours in Baldurs Gate 3 and 232 hours in Cyberpunk. I will go back to both of those games in due time aswell.
@@skubo same dude, same. I'll forget about them for months then suddenly be almost as sucked in as the first time again. It really is something special.
Withers is ALWAYS casting vicious mockery
God i dunno HOW you dont have more followers your content is so fun
Haha thanks man! Maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. TH-cam is a fickle game like that. But either way, I appreciate the support!
I'm gonna need that Viva Pinata story, my guy. Beautiful video, I couldn't agree more!
Absolute roleplaying masterpiece.
I have seen so many people talk about BG3 and I still have no idea what it is about except that it is an RPG. I guess the mechanics are really good
It's a very polished, very well designed RPG. I think it's pretty deserving of the obsession the internet has for it, but that still doesn't mean it's for everyone. Even the best pizza won't impress someone that doesn't like pizza
You can find the opening cinematic in many places which sets up the basics of the main character's situation at the start of the game. Beyond that the game is a pretty good representation of D&D fifth edition rules. It has incredibly deep and complicated acting by a large number of actors. At no point are you forced into any course of action, except at the very beginning when you are in what passes for the game's tutorial. You can always choose to act in a good, bad or "grey" manner as long as you are prepared to live with the outcome.
As someone who has been playing PC RPG's for a very long time BG3 is, IMO, the best one since at least Witcher 3 and the best cRPG ever.
Heartily disagree with your out look on DOS2, but your video is so engaging and fun that I enjoyed hearing your perspective nonetheless. New sub!
Bg3 is a blast. Currently on a fighter/warlock (will probably go pure fighter for that good 3 attacks per turn, max 9 assuming action surge and haste has been applied). Very generic good guy type of character. Finally nearly beaten the game.
On act 2 i also have a dragonborn DU bard which is also a blast to play. My guy just constantly roasts people.
Honestly BG3 is my first time having played a Fighter, and it totally makes sense to me now why Fighter is, I think, the most common class in 5e. It's just so reliable
btw for some reason the extra attack on warlock pact blade and extra attack on fighter stack. So fighter/warlock is probably the third best melee dps after a stacked barbarian/fighter and paladin/warlock cuz you can drop a hex then three big attacks in one round. Wyll with fighter/warlock and the legendary rapier was dishing out 4 attacks a turn while having access to hex and Warlock casting. Paladin/Warlock is insane tho bc you get 3 atttacks and you can use your warlock spell slots to drop some nasty ass high-level smites that recharge on long rest. dropping two lvl 3 smites and a lvl 2 smite in one turn deletes pretty much anything and you get the lvl 3 smites back with a quick little rest. it alos lets you drop str to rely entirely on charisma for melee attacks and damage and casting *and* speech checks while being the best melee dps int he game.
You can pickpocket all of the gold you've paid to Withers off of him, and there aren't any consequences for failing.
Not only is that free respecs... but it's technically free money via the hirelings if you sell their gear.
I feel like Withers is just too burnt out to care haha
Please tell us the Viva Pinata 2 story soon! Hope you're enjoying Cyberpunk 2077 2.0!
DOS2 has some great companions that I really think you missed out on playing with a group. Just like BG3, the companions all have different morals, and of course the option to persuade them to go along with yours. You can tell so much work went into the writing, even if they improved for BG3, and well as it being Larians first game with full voice acting I think they knocked it out of the park. The main story is ok, but I found most of my fun interacting with my party, companions who you can also choose to romance and have their own unique quest lines that can lead you to encounters you might have missed before. With how passionate you seem about BG3 I would really recommend giving DOS2 another try on your own or maybe with just one other friend so you can appreciate its amazing companions just like you have with BG3.
Got 150 hours of pure joy just from my first playthrough, and plan to start my second later today (something I've never done in a rpg before) and couldn't be more excited. This game is truly something special! Love the video too
I tend to bounce of isometric games no matter how good they are. However, I will give BG3 a try purely for Karlach.
Honestly, if you go in to with the idea that it's a Character Driven Story game that just happens to be isometric, I think you might have an alright time, then
Maybe a bit late to the table (a year late) but I've been binging your content and had to offer 2cts - I didn't vibe with DOSII either. I didn't even get to the parts where you find out any of the story or talk to the people; it was all just overwhelming and immediate power, everyone was volatile and there were 2000 different abilities everywhere. It was just too much.
Compare and contrast that with BG3 giving you time to get to know your character's two abilities before it sets you free to woo whoever you want and still be able to just auto-attack your way to victory, and... bam. Way better delivery method for essentially the same system.
P.S. Thanks for the serotonin, bud.
BG is rich and deep with focus. The 3rd act is a little too busy…but maybe not. I haven’t even finished the game yet and I am planning my next run with a completely different player type with a different attitude.
Just felt like mentioning that, as someone else who has bounced off Divinity: Original Sin 2 so far, my first experience with Larian Studios was actually Divinity: Dragon Commander. Nothing quite like playing a RTS/third person dragon RPG/turn-based strategic game/dating sim.
I actually did make Astarion a barbarian in my evil playthrough... it worked surprisingly well actually, considering his free no-action bite and the happy buff it gives.
Also, I literally didnt finish the game for the first time until I got past the 600 hour mark, and by that point I'd played so much that I just confidently made that run an honor mode run. Game's crazy for how much there is to do and see in it before even caring to actually finish it.
I personally think Larian has a real weakness when it comes to writing main quests, but their world building, gameplay, and characters are all so good, i tend to just ignore the main storyline except to advance to the next area
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 had a very different feel from 3, but they were both phenomenal games back in the day. There was a thriving modding community too, and one of the two best romances I've ever played hands down was a fan mod for BG2. (The other one was Alistar in DA:O). The vanilla romances in BG1 and 2 were... not great, so I'm glad they fixed that in 3 (but man was Gale disappointing lol).
first act is great... second act alright.. 3rd act really REALLY lacks polish
Your insinuation that D:OS2 is just depressing and lacking in levity is so completely absurd that I don’t even know what to say. Like there’s literally a squirrel that follows you around on an animal skeleton calling you his “shield” because he’s on some quixotic quest to save the world from the Great Acorn. The game is jam packed with jokes, sarcasm, and all-around levity. There’s even a snarky joke option for just about every dialogue choice! I’m honestly just confused as to how you could have played for over 100 hours and still walked away thinking there was no levity. So bizarre. Oh, and you can also pet the dog in D:OS2! And when you do, best boi Buddy swoons and says he loves you.
I kind of feel like D:OS2 is a lot weaker if played in four player coop, you loose the best charakters to the other players, evan worse if no one is a origin charakter. Add to it that the world is like mentioned in the video at a bit of a down point (D:OS1 was at a way happier point).
Yeah, I'm with you. It's a harsh world for sure, but the idea that there isn't humor is just wrong.
While you're not wrong, personally I didn't vibe with the comedic moments present in DOS2 as much as I did with Baldur's Gate 3 for some reason, (with the squirrel you mentioned ironically being the most egregious example; it felt a little "LOL so random" for my liking) so I can relate with Thane regarding Rivellon feeling bleak. This issue is further exacerbated by the fact that the game makes you feel powerless by often throwing you into situations where no matter what you do someone will end up drawing the short end of the stick for absolutely no reason (which is strange, since I usually don't mind grim dark stories in other games).
Now don't get me wrong, the game is still pretty good (even if it may not be one of my favorites), I'm mostly pointing out that there a valid reasons to dislike DOS2's writing.
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@@opethmike I would, actually, thanks for the offer! Feeling kinda peckish rn.
Minthara > Karlach
I can tell that your favorite character is most likely Karlach. Mine's Astarion. :3. His story, especially the trauma that he suffers at the hands of his abusive Master Cazador, is _so compelling._ They don't _glorify_ his trauma, they don't _demonize_ it and blame him as the victim. The game developers treat him (and the other characters) as _real, whole, genuine human beings._ They don't _romanticize_ Astarion's or any other character's trauma, they don't _trivialize_ it. They make it seem _real,_ _genuine,_ and just... _Normal._ They make Astarion's trauma seem _normal._ And I think that that is _astoundingly refreshing,_ especially in a RPG game like this. And I'm sure that those who've suffered from trauma and abusers like Astarion did _also_ feel like this. That they feel _relieved_ abuse and trauma is being _normalized,_ and treated as something to _not_ be _demonized,_ to not be _trivialized_ or ignored or anything like that.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that Astarion reminds them _greatly_ of Angel Dust from _Hazbin Hotel,_ and vice versa? 😂.
Even if I played this game, Armored Core 6 would probably stay as my GOTY. Sorry, but I prefer giant mechs fighting each other with absurd weapons and a story that is about existential crises and what it means to be a person. This doesn't have any of the things that I enjoy the most. I came here to see if I could maybe like it, but walked away disappointed.
bg3 good, 5th edition bad