The Car Dealer lost £51735 selling this EV but you can save £1600
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- The Car Dealer lost £51735 selling this EV but you can save £1600
my advice as always is that if an EV suits your needs and you can mostly charge it from home, get it,
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Everything is more nuts than i can comprehend :)
all these job loses ,, the nation is doing it to themselves ,,muppets
In many parts of the UK it is possible to buy a house for the same money as these High end EVs! Why on earth would you spaff up your hard earned on something that will plummet in value so quickly.
If I saved £1600 per year on my petrol car, it would be paying me.
Yup. Level money cars cost zero. If in trade is poss buy and sell within year at cost. Just fuel and service
"Non Profit organisations" tend to have remarkably generous salaries.
Also, I think one aspect we overlook is, that the charging network isn't going to be sustainable at any reasonable level.
Even according to the EV shills, you have to charge at home to avoid the high costs from charging networks.
However, if everyone that's able to do so avoids the charging network, then who's going to pay for it to be maintained?
So unless governments subsidize the infrastructure of private businesses with tax money, it'll be scaled down to have consistent demand.
Pair that with a potential large scale traffic jam due to extreme weather and people will que up on the motorway for a charger once the mandates are trough.
Doesn't take a genius to expect people to be at each other's throats on the chargers in such situations either IMO.
If you look at this EV fiasco with any logic it fails at multiple levels. There are overgrown fields of them in China ,4 years old but brand new rusting away unsold. My council is installing a charger on each council house revamp it does. On a house with no drive ! FFS. Unfortunately the current government has no clue about reality which is coming to bite it’s arse in a big way at this rate.
Job losses at Vauxhall due to EV mandate , the Gov of the day will eventually lose votes due to job and financial losses to individuals due to Gov policy of pushing EV sales - losses will also be passed onto the taxpayer ( eg ev subsidies , dole costs etc)
Labour and Conservatives both support this, so...
The government that governed in a certain European country in the first half of the twentieth century mandated their private industry to do what they wanted them to do.
They were socialists and they led the world into the 2nd world war.
Socialists always like to point the finger at others and smear them as far r….. They have created a lie over 80 years to hide the real truth about their past .
They are using a fake crisis to take control of people’s lives again .
Mandating industry by governments never ends well.
Socialism destroys everything that it touches.
@@wizzyno1566... vote Reform.
Votes. They've had a long time to perfect this scam.
In 2009 I bought an Audi S8 for 3250 GBP. It's worth that today or maybe a bit more!
Totally unsustainable losses for dealers. One can only logically conclude it must be by design!
Yes - because you have been trashing our planet
@@nathansmith7153"you". If you live in the modern world you rely on carbon resources totally. So "you" includes you.
Stupidity is still an option.
@@nathansmith7153Who’s been doing what?! If you fall for the heliocentric sun-worshipping globe nonsense in the spinning space circus, you may as well fall for the man-made climate change hoax.
If dealers refused to accept EV's as trade-ins due to the potential losses, and did not bid too high on leasing company returns (as seems to be happening) - the used ev market would devalue faster.... Time for the trade as a whole to wake up, as they cannot suffer these losses. And time to get the SMMT to tell the truth!
It's one thing getting finance on a vehicle, it's a whole different game getting finance to replace a battery pack while still paying off the car.
It would break my travel plans and start a cycle of debt I would never get out of.
My Kia Niro EV has a 7 year battery (and everything else) warranty
@colinrodgers9336 but who will buy it 2nd hand, without the warranty?
@colinrodgers9336 That's awesome.
Good luck with the warranty,keep taking it to the dealer on demand or the warranty will be voided.
I genuinely wish you every success. A vehicle is a liability, not an investment. It's either a liability you can afford or not.
My car is 26 years old, and I'm going to chuck on £150 in suspension parts for the mot next October because rubber boots just don't last.
The parts are available.
The true cost per mile is easy to work out, just add up everything you pay in and divide by the miles you have done.
Then if you need to know how much a trip is actually costing just multiply it.
Eg: a 200 mile trip actually cost £375.
Don't take my word for it.
Choosing tens of thousands of pounds of depreciation in a year or two for the potential fuel savings of hundreds if charged at home (other conditions apply) is absurd and it illustrates the EV delusion.
The depreciation on my Hyundai diesel which I bought 8 years ago works out to about £65/month. How does that compare to buying a car on a lease? Next year my VED will go up from £0 to £20, whilst EVs will start paying the £195 standard rate.
I think that you may be wrong. What actual car do you have?
@Hell-Hound1 2015 i30 diesel. Go to honestjohn website, they have the tables with the most information, whereas the car companies and government live in a world where nobody drives a car registered before 2017.
As we come in to Christmas i can see fights breaking out at ev charging stations as families try to get away to stay/visit extended family. Tesla wont be immune as they now share there charging network with some others. Porsche have stopped sharing theres outside opening hours
I love cars too but I wouldn't buy an electric car it all bullshit eco bollox
can you imagine the mess if in 5 years time the majority of the cars on the road are EV's!? I just did a route plan for a trip i'm due to take. Essex to Hollyhead I chose an Audi Etron 50. with a claimed range of 270miles. It would take 6.5hours and 2 hours of that is just charging. I'd have to charge 3 times. I dont know where all these extra chargers are coming from but even if a service station had one for every parking space, the average time spent at a service station for petrol and something to eat is about 20mins or less. sometimes I just want to stop for fuel and go. so around 10mins on a bad day. and I'd probably only have to fill up once. on an EV I'm spending a 3rd of my journey waiting for it to charge (and that's if there isn't a queue for the chargers!) it doesn't work!
Hi Barrie I completely agree EV's are a financial catastrophe for manufacturers, distributors and owners. Our government is being completely wreckless with their "green" policies. I have an A6 Avant 2.0tdi 45mpg around town 65mpg on a run. Absolutely fantastic car with an 800 mile + range. No electric car can touch that.. Oh, by the way, there is a Rolls Royce Spectre E, on Autotrader now, that the dealer has reduced the asking price by £71,000 since May this year. You couldn't make it up 😢
Electric cars will not be repairable if the manufacturers go bust.
Yes but Ice manufacturers going broke will be trouble for all the ice cars in the road
EV’s Tesla don’t have service virtually !!
Save a fortune when fuel comes into if you can charge at home
It is evident that the current situation for EV cars is far from satisfactory BUT this does not alter the fact that regardless of how cars are powered the days of the ICE are over. It is worth noting that a considerable number of NEW ICE cars have considerable mechanical and electrical faults some of which become evident very quickly and others that will not come to light until after 40-50k miles.
No one is talking about how energy prices are going up again in January. It’s reckless to suggest that electric cars are a good investment and people save so much money.
At one point some people couldn’t afford to run the washing machine often enough, such were the prices, do we know that those prices won’t return soon enough?
Thanks for your work on this video, those reductions by the dealers are crazy, one thing that you mentioned but did not give figures for is the new price for some of those cars, that Audi Etron that was reduced bt £51,000 to £72,000 has a new list price of £150,695!!!, it is lesss than half price with 8,000 miles and one year old. Soon it will be a throw away item.
Buying a car is a consumable, you know whatever you buy you are going to lose a lot of money! It's never been an investment. The Ora cat you mentioned sells for £13000 in China. They came over to Europe with a retail of around £31000. They haven't sold very well so now you can pick them up for around £13000 with less than 8000 miles. This is for the 48kw battery. They brought out the upgrade with 61kw which they are still asking £35000 for. As a customer you pay your money you choose as an adult having done your homework. If you buy a new car outright and keep it for 10 years. Best to buy nearly new on a pcp and know you will hand it back to the dealer in three or four years. You know at the outset what is costing if your happy with that great!
Well done on continued call out of this nonsense Barrie. Sad for the job losses and the (d)evolution of this industry but fear the train wreck hasn’t properly started yet.
Be interesting Private Sales vs Company Car sales on EV's. A private sale EV just doesn't add up, a business sale makes perfect sense...but that kills the second hand market as we are seeing. NOBODY wants a 2 or 3 year old EV (ex business lease). BIK tax is what has driven EV sales...NOTHING else.
The only people who will sort this complete mess are the people. So come on people ( the Marjority I'd guess) who wants an EV more to the point who could afford one. How will they be taxed in the future? How much will it cost to charge in a Yr or 2 or 5? As the answers are unknown (except more is the right answer) we all need to say enough is enough. Say it loud and say it again write letters use platforms etc to express the utter folly. Let those that can .fine . but this forcing the masses to effectively make themselves poorer, their friends loose their jobs, their country go to the dogs. * very nearly too late on that one. I'd agree the last 14yrs have been a disaster but repeating and making the same mistakes can not and should be accepted. With no answers to the questions the time is not right . This is serious very serious. For there to be a future the people need to be part of it by choice not force, we need a life not a battery with wheels sat on the drive with no jobs to go to. Ask the question who wanted this ? Who is pressing this who stands to gain from this. .
Looks like a lot of car dealers are going to go the same way as motorcycle dealers, many closures !
Can't hear you as always do something with the volume
@@DeanMackenziebelldmb sorry but again it’s fine on all my computers, phones, iPads, etc
I could hear everyting clearly.
Perfectly audible to me.
That's alot of Car that RS GT Etron for £72K, Bet better at 3 year old for under £40K though with extended warranty.
I just passed an AA vehicle that said on the side we charge electric cars, so that’s admitting that they do breakdown and they must be a market for this. Otherwise they wouldn’t do it. In other words, you probably won’t have enough charge for your journey. You don’t see many ice vehicles on the side of the road broken down these days. I guess we’re going to see a lot of electric ones though! The government is out of touch with the working man what is surprise?
Running out of charge is not "breaking down". AA can provide a small charge just the same as if an ICE car runs out of fuel.
@DJBaldPaul so, the very definition of a breakdown then 😂
@@BarrieCrampton Not really, nothing's broken. 😜
@@DJBaldPaul I worked for them it’s classified as a breakdown
Climate intelligence unit 😂. I bought my wife's model 3, she bought a new one. I went from a v8, to a straight 6 twin turbo, to an EV. I charge it at home on 7p/kwh. I'll keep it until it explode, the grown ups arrive and wake everyone up, or I die. Whatever comes first. Every year since 2019 gets more insane than the last. I'm out of the car game for the foreseeable future
EV range HALVES in winter conditions….
EV’s banned from being parked in various car parks (hospitals etc) because of the fire risk
EV charging infrastructure non existent for vast majority of dwellings. Terraced homes, high rise flats etc.
EV cost is high, maintenance costs are high, depreciation is appalling.
Can you name places of the non parking of evs, and in winter evs use 10-15% more battery,low maintenance and all cars have stupid depreciation,what i will agree on is if you can't have a home charger they are not worth the bother
I've saved a fortune driving an electric car, apart from all the money I've lost in depreciation 🤣
And where does the electric come from?😮
This is just the start of job losses, it's going to get alot worse. What this government are doing is nothing short of idiosy on a biblical scale. I'll give starmer and his mad mate milliband 2 years maybe less .
Does anybody still think these are a solution or saving the planet and ford annouced 4000 job loses due to the ev madness all big brands are struggling due to this madness Evs don’t work only if your a fleet buyer for tax reasons. I actually firmly believe the governments want car companies to go bust just so we cant have personal transport. Look at what Jaguar just did is that sensible why go all Ev after all other brands are losing money they’ll go bust in 5 years. Also have you noticed car parts are always on back order if your ICE car is 5 years old plus. Some brand new cars that fail in warranty also have lengthy delays to get parts why? Before Covid you could get parts now 5 years later the supply chains are still behind nonsense. I sell machinery and all parts are available and have been since 2022 so why is the car industry still having shortages !? Because it’s been done on purpose. All smoke and mirrors
Short memory? All this was in place long before the election, and leaving the EU and years of austerity have done and will do far more damage and yet it was accepted to fourteen long, depressing years.
you are putting advertised prices, but what are the actual selling prices
They would be even worse but I don’t want to be accused of making things look worse than they already are, as if they actually could be
If EVs are truly better and cheaper to use then why do they need propping up by mandates?
Surely if they were so great they’d be outselling ICE cars naturally.
Is the problem CHINA??
Unfortunately, Barrie, you are preaching to the choir. Those of us with half a brain agree with you. However, most EV owners seem to have been brainwashed and won't hear a bad word against electric cars. Also, it makes my laugh that every time I watch your channel, it is interrupted by an EV advert.
Presumably Barrie they will run out of first time buyers , who are taking the hit . Bit like a chair maker when the last trees are cut down , I can see why you’re going to retire . No future in selling cars I fear , not even for someone with your experience . Ii have to back in a go-cart made of an old door with pram wheels , which I had as a lad in the late 50s . But knowing this crowd they would probably ban that as well . Kind regards to all . And S the lot of them
Glad you said you've only half a brain😂😂
But not in depreciation
You can keep your horribly overpriced EV. I'm keeping my 1962 Morris Minor 1000. It will always be cheaper to run than any EV. If the government eventually closed every petrol station I can cope. I can use 100LL from my local airfield. Banning that would ground most aircraft so it won't happen.
Electric vehicles (EVs) don't seem to make sense; they appear to have no future and are designed to fail. Why is that?
I’d rather sh1t in my hand clap to the national anthem than get an electric car or motorcycle…
Private new owners of all £100k+ cars get rinsed after 3 years, regardless of the fuel powering them and this has been happening for decades !
Look up BMW 8 Series, Audi A8, Merc S Class, BMW 7 Series.... (you know this already).
You mentioned 'cherry picking', but you yourself are cherry picking EV's for this high deprecation video.
The Taycan and E-tron new models were launched earlier this year, with much longer range, better efficiency, more performance and more spec. So the older gen cars on 24 and 74 plates need to be reduced more, else they won't sell.
Also, the people buying these £100k+ EV's are doing so with significant tax savings. The used cars need drop a lot of value, else it's cheaper to buy new.
No one is going to buy a £100k Taycan, or E-tron, which has dropped to £70k after 2-3 years, because it's cheaper to get a new £100k+ car.
Finally, deprecation only hits you when you sell the car, someone buying a used £51k e-tron and keeping it, is saving £2,600 (driving high mileage) compared to an equivalent ICE car.
That’s not really true. In fact, Autotrader did a list in February this year and the BMW 840i came tenth. There were a couple of Maserati saloons on the list, the rest being all electric, including the DS3 (1st), Vauxhall Corsa Electric (3rd), Nissan Leaf (4th), Vauxhall Mokka Electric (5th), Renault Zoe (7th), DS9 (8th) and the Peugeot e-2008 (9th).
You are referring to an Autoexpress article from February that put the BMW 850i on first place but for some reason covered the whole 8 series coupe range, followed by seven EVs, the Maserati Ghibli and the Audi A6 40 in eight and ninth place respectively. When you check Autotrader, these EVs have worse depreciation than what they predicted, which was that they would retain around 25-30% of their original list price after three years.
Anyway, both lists included EVs and a few V8 salons/coupes, which are not really the popular and family choices. When the electric Corsa, Fiat 500, Mazda electric Crossover and other popular family cars are predicted to lose £20-30k in three years, that’s quite a concern. No one cares about big V8 saloons’ value, but why are family and small EVs losing so much?! If they’ve done the list now, the Audi e-Teton and the Porsche Taycan may make their ways replacing the Maserati, Audi and BMW saloons and coupe.
@@ComeJesusChrist - Look at that same AT list now!
The top deprecating car in the UK is a BMW 850i, retaining just 26.16% of it's value after 3 years.
@@SDK2006b You haven’t read my comment, I’ve already answered your concern in the second paragraph.
Again, no one cares or is surprised about large V8 saloons or coupes, but the rest of the list is small and family EVs that we are supposed to be buying, leasing, owning and getting bankrupt by.
I bought a great Zoe but they are old cars, old tech, there are much better EVS out on the market now! So don't pay over the odds there will probably be a cheaper deal on a new EV being offered. It's going to be a blood bath for dealers over the next 10 years, the fittest will survive! Stupid people will have their pants pulled down as always. But on the main the savvy buyers will see this period as the golden decade for bargain buying, the battery revolution has only just started ! What's available now and coming down the pipe is unbelievable! Incidentally if you are in the £15k to £20k segment buy a good used Tesla! With their cheap supercharger stations they are on a different level.
I feel for the workers 🥹 but let me tell any thinking of moving the Wirral is amazing place in my opinion it has everything surrounded by water in 3 sides, a Roman city of Chester close along with Liverpool ( Wirral is not in Liverpool ) nothing wrong with that city !Manchester just a hour away. Two international airports within easy reach. Living by the sea is amazing … get the dog and kids in the car and move 🫵