Notting Hill Carnival: Who Started It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2014
- Wyn Baptiste grew up in Notting Hill believing his dad Selwyn, a Trinidadian steel pan player who arrived in Britain in 1960 and was the first Chair of Notting Hill Carnival Committee, was the man who started Carnival. But the truth isn't quite that simple.
Wyn discovers that the origins of Carnival are as tangled as the history of London itself as he meets key players who were actually there with his dad, and goes on a journey that takes in mass immigration, the 1958 race riots, pioneering social workers, Trinidadian steel pan players - and adventure playgrounds
We African people are a great people - humble and strong. We dont get wound up by one man - the problem with European centres is they get too upset too fast. Good documentary. Very informative
I remember my mother making costumes in our basement and me decorating head pieces late 1970s. Had a great time.
Please give props to the Trinies. Jamaicans trying to claim it. They used to turn up their noses at soca music when I was growing up. They will big up Jamaica first, then all the other Islands after.
You cannot speak for all Jamaicans because the famous soca song “Tiney Winey” was popularized by a Jamaican born artist and the king of Calypso, Harry Belafonte was born to Jamaican born parents
Not denying that Afro-Trinidadians deserve their respect and props for starting, continuing, and preserving carnival in the Caribbean
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@@seniyaalleyne3872 harry belafonte is not king of Calypso tho
What a terrific and informative mini documentary. Thank you for publishing and thank you for the production.
So Notting Hill / North Kensington was a Caribbean neighbourhood in the 60s wow. its goes to show you Caribbean people need to learn how to improve on growth or will stay stagnant till Gentrification hits. Change is the only constant.
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03:25 Black Liberation Front. Where can I get that poster. I just read Ansel Wong speaking about it
You're so right.
I remember playing at the shanty town it was great fun sliding down the line onto an old mattress at the end but it suddenly got shut down and we had nowhere to play but baxk on the streets. I also remember the first carnival passing down our street on Lancaster road as we sat on the steps watching them play the steel band and it was a very small one.. the second year was alot bigger.
When was it made
i was in the carnival in 1965 i was on a fruit barrow with other kids we went from the shanty town then around the street nothing speacil just for us kids paid 10bob to mrs lassette who lived in tavistoke cresant i was 7 @@omalone1169
Brilliant video. Enjoyed watching every moment. A marvelous memory
to walk down What a wonderful video and the honest opinions of the contributors. I was blessed to have worked with & know several of them as a musician. These people really put a lot of time energy & love into giving, there community ,there peoples, my Parents then me and our children a glimpse of the love, joy & hope of the Caribbean peoples in the midst of very difficult and harsh daily lives in the UK back then.
Brilliant video. Enjoyed watching. Carnival started out with good intentions of bringing people together. But now it is not a good place to go because of crime. I believe with the criminal aspect of the carnival, it will not have much of a future and this would be a shame. I have not been for about 5 years because of crime, very of putting. I love watching videos on TH-cam every year and have made a playlist.
crime has been their since the 70's that is part and parcel of humanity.. Carnival will not end because of it and it been going down in each year..
I was in Miss laslett's play group and remember her talking about the carnival, I was 1 of the white kids in the group, she borrowed costumes from Madame tussards, and got us kids dressed up, I live in Westbourne Park Road and my dad wouldn't let me go, I was 11 years old, so I stood at our window looking up The great western road and took photos as they went passed as best I could, I still have them, they hold great memories of a carefree time that I still miss
Hey, I'd like to talk to you about the play group if you don't mind - doing some research for a biography
A brilliant documentary.
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Actually less crime than Glastonbury. I'm 41 and grew up in the area including taking part in the procession.in all my years of attending I can remember only a couple where there was real "trouble". people demonize it in the hope of containing it in hyde park where rich white ppl can pay to see black ppl dance. Can't let this happen.
elz belz EXACTLY!!!
Glastonbury's insane white boyz be letting off shells at boi dem like its chiraq
so the year my sister was working there(as a police officer)i walked up with the dog to see her later on in the day..got attacked by some crack head trying to rob my dog ...all the windows boarded up everywhere ...shit everywhere...empty smashed glass everywhere..big red eyes all stoned out their faces who would be better off on the couch with a doughnut...oh and the 12 stabbings and 2 rapes...its a shitshow just a load of noise that sounds like feedback in some shitty labour club...time to put it in a field somewhere like they did with glasto and charge people and take it out of an area where people actual live...and if people wanted to pay to watch BLACK people sing and dance its no different than beyonce playing at the o2...fckn rich white people lol...as if they would be paying to watch anybody sing and dance anyway ya daft twat better things to do than watch retards shake their booty
@@trainstop8703 where are you going with this
i already went there did you not read it properly or is that so hard?
The first time I when to carnival it was in 1995
My first was 1991. I was 10 years old.
😂😂I don’t understand a word from this guys mouth 😂 Anyway when I went to NH Carnival they were several beautiful people from many different Caribbean Islands 🌴 engaging in this matter. Good food, nice 🎶 music and fantastic colourful clothing . Not only Jamaicans 🇯🇲
in the desolate streets of some of the most expensive property in London.
Gentrification...
04:40 where is that footage from
Are you deaf or did you mute the video?
Carnival should be protected as a heritage tradition in the UK especially and this video should be shown in schools to teach the children to preserve this tradition and not let the system give it a bad name and try to shut it down. These elders were militant about freedom of creative and cultural expression and gave us all a gift that we should hold on to in like manner. It left me feeling sad that so many are trying to sabotage this and these elders and fore parents deserve respect. We need to take the responsibility somehow to keep peace on the streets for the next generations to experience this part of history for themselves and remember those that paved the way for us.
Before deciding who started carnival and when you first need to work out what is a carnival. What are the elements of a west Indian carnival and what was the first event to include them all.
And...
where is that @run the track@ sample from. Also 01:17 is an amazing memory when he mentions an "adventure playground" as there used to be a major one in kilburn but that seems to have long been replaced, unlike the bridge which was simply knocked down; much like the old blocks are soon to be . | September 25 2017 |
04:41 please what dance is that and what film/archive is it from,
If my memory serves me right mine was mid eighties with both my parents
11:48 what paper
Does anybody know of Ralph Richardson, a Steel Pan player from Trinidad?.
Yes, a lot of people knew him. Peter Joseph knew him and I have a picture of him playing with Irwin Clement band in the 1960's Stallybrass Street I think, one of the first that was seen just playing in the street. There was Brian Henderson, and a limbo player and I think Ralph on a bass. Search online as the original photo was taken by a newspaper but Irwin had an original copy. Brian Henderson should remember where else Ralph hung out.
Interested in finding out about Irwin Clement. Anyone have any further info?
Oh and that was 1965
Notting Hill Carnival: Who Started It? IsGr8 work at Wyn Baptiste
carnival started in the caribbean in colombus time
what if they made it so; people would have to pay, not like the new year's celebrations in London by the Thames. then the event would have the same controls put in place.
Ahhh shuddup
Please just dont ... trying to kill the spirit of the whole thing
If people come to the UK then do it our way or go to the land you crave. Don't try to impress your lifestyle in another country. The mere fact you want to have your processions is tantamount to racism. Don't try to convert the UK into your mother country. If you love your mother country and its traditions then go live there.
on that note can l just say take down your british flag from the north of lreland and take your murdering police force out, take your own advice
So partying isn't "your way" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hmmm ... the official HIS-tory eh... ?
Didnt the concept of carnival come from the end of slavery ??
I know most of the people in this video. My family were at the first un official Notting hill carnival. People must remember black people didn't have any power racism was terrible.
"Pan on the road"
Is how it all started, the white lady was needed to front everything.
It's fitting for the Notting Hill Carnival to be held in London because of the fact that many people of the Caribbean or if you prefer the West Indies were born there And have been living there for quite some time now And also London was also the birthplace of many West Indian musicians including The Caribbean Queen of Carnival and Soca Alison Hinds Of Barbados born June 1st 1970
so the people who have lived there before 1900`s dont have a say in anything seeings that there families have lived there for decades longer than any of the people who just landed there?..and if there born in the uk they aint west indian...my relatives go back 1100 years in this county...one half came from jews..the other came across in the spanish armada...and part saxon bloodline and im a scouser ...so what does that make me..saxojewspicmickeymouser does this give me some special rights to a dual citizenship and some sense of entitlement...erm no...am i a british citizen..yes..i turn brown when i go in the sun but am white pretty much 95% of the time...guess what nobody cares...and guess what nobody gives a flying fck who the queen of the caribbean is either...which is glaringly obvious seeings you have had not 1 like from anybody for you comment in 10 mnths :/
@@trainstop8703 ermmm what was your point
train stop Go back to your own countries lol
@@trainstop8703 why are you here? If the carnival bothers you so much then don't watch it.
So your father married a white English woman otherwise you would not look how you look, so who was your mother?.
That’s the most important thing you got from watching this?
lol and his dad made it out he was full of Caribbean culture but ended up laying down with a white woman, what a joker!.. traitor!
@@memeagain4106 hmmm we have no agreed definition of black tho
Ria R If his Mother is still alive (I suspect she isn't) she may have been able to contribute as to who/when.
+me me again were was his mother from tho maybe shes not english
I would love to go to the carnival 🎡 but sadly I feel claustrophobic in crowds 😢 so I watch the footage online 😊🥰🙏🥰