Thanks!! It should work. Being a lighter bullet because its hollowed out. it might be a weaker round. But it also can hold more powder. 🤷 so we will see. When i ever do come down. i will bring it and a lot of others for you to see and shoot if you have the time.🍻
I've been checking for a new video Snapper. Nice to see you back. Another great video on a very specific topic I am not that well versed in but enjoyed. you made it all sound very easy/simple. Great work cobber.
Thanks steve i really tried to make it simple. I find this kind of thing interesting and fascinating. Especially when you don't have to permanently modify a gun.
awesome video i have an 1851 and 1861 navy originals converted i plan on using 9mm bullets 38 special cases but i still need to figure out how to drill a hollow base with a hand drill thank you!!!!! great chanel.
Thank you...i think you could definitely drill it with a hand drill. Use a Center finder ruler on the bullet to find center. Then with to pieces of wood clamped in a vise. drill right in the middle of where the two pieces come together. a hole a little smaller than the bullet you plan on using. That way you can hold the bullet tight without changing its shape. Then use a center punch so when you start drilling the drill bit wont walk. Come up with a depth you plan on drilling to. At that depth on the drill bit wrap tape as a depth Gage and stop. And probably best to use at least 2 drills or more. So you start drilling with a small drill and step up to the size you want. Hope this helps and thanks again.
Snapper: Love your channel.. I have a Pietta 1851 Navy replica with a 38 Colt/38 spl. Howell conversion cylinder. Of course the barrel is still .36 caliber groove diameter. I load .38 spl cases with Hornady 148 gr .358 caliber HBWC's over 17.5 gr FFFg seated to 1.400 " OAL.(almost full chamber length) Then I dip the exposed portion of the bullets in melted 50/50 beeswax/tallow for outside lubrication. They shoot quite accurately. Don't know if the hollow base would expand to .38 but they are in all reality little full wad cutter Minne balls and readily available and no need to drill out bases or use expensive hollow base molds. Look forward to reading about your further adventures with your Thunderer Doris J
@@snappers_antique_firearms i wish i resided there or at least be as close as you are to the state line to zip in to reno or vegas gun shows, my baby brother lives in eugene oregon he was the smart one.
@@leadbullets4life yeah the gun shows here in vegas are phenomenal. Yeah California has become just crazy. Everytime i go there. i look forward to leaving. But las Vegas is where i live and its not the best place to live with a family.
I have some rounds loaded i just haven't had the opportunity to go shooting. My life has been crazy since August. Hopefully i will be able to go shooting in a few weeks
@@snappers_antique_firearms Hope all will be calmer for you this new year and look forward to your upcoming posts. I really enjoyed the Griswold and Gunnison range episode
@@dorisjohnson8857 i pray it will be a much calmer year to. I am glade you liked the Griswold and Gunnison video. I hope to be doing more videos on it as well. And many other projects i have been working on. Thanks again
@@Bucky1836 i have many videos planned on the thunderer. I have been wanting to shoot it to see it the bullets I loaded work. Unfortunately my parents passed away and i have been dealing with selling off the estate. Its in a different state then i live in. so i haven't had much time to get any gun stuff done. Especially shooting. But hopefully soon i can start cranking out videos
I believe the pressure might be lower. because of such a lighter bullet. being it has a hollow base. it will be much lighter then just 38 spl normally. But it will also hold more powder. So i am not sure really.
Snapper I have some hollow base .38's that I shoot out of my 1861 Colt conversion that I cast out of an old Rapine bullet mold . I could send you some if you would like to try them . Just contact me and let me know .
Yes please!!!! i am having problems already with trying to hollow out the normal 38 bullets. I will pay you. Please email me at. Thewildsnapper@gmail.com
Also just to let you know i have been very sick. I haven't been this sick in a long time so if you dont hear from me right away. Thats why... been sleeping a lot.
@@snappers_antique_firearms Yeah I knew you were going to have trouble with using the ball nose , I've already been down that road , it didn't work for me ether . lol. I sure hope you get to felling better . I' ll be praying for you .
@@robertfriedel924 thanks brother. I will be looking forward to hearing from you threw email. And thanks i really hope i start feeling better soon. Crazy about a week ago i was thinking to myself its been a very long time since i have been really sick with a high fever. I must have jinxed myself
I think you're way way. Overthinking a simple process here bud. When I fire form brass for my 375 Remington ultra mag from a 300 ultra mag it put a 300 ultra mag cartridge in my 375. point it at a Target you pull the trigger. LOUD BANG out pops a 375 brass. You sure are fire yourself a 38 special out of your 41 magnum that's going to pop 41 brass. The questions will be too much pressure and blow your 41 colt revolver up. -- That's entire reason I watched the video to see if you could do that or if you had to download it with lower pressures.
The main reason I went this route. I also use this same ammo in a colt 1851 navy conversion in 38 colt. (It's just 38 special cut down a little) If I fire form the brass to the 41 it would no longer fit in the 38. I also do load 41 colt and just wanted to see if I could make the 38 fit in both guns. Believe it or not, this actually worked perfectly. I have a video on the channel of me shooting this 38 through the 41. I didn't have to down load the ammo. I load it with real black powder, not modern smokeless. So the pressure is not high.
you might be right. I could have shimmed the cylinder. But not wanting to make permanent changes to an antique. Plus the 38 cylinder is cheap. I have been told 38 spl brass can fire form to 41 colt. But never done it so i dont know if its true.
I am just beating you up a little bit. I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to experiment. I just don't want to be holding the Colt when it goes off because I never cared for lead splatter.
Thank you for the concern. I am in the business and I've been doing this kind of stuff a very long time. And take all safety concerns serious. After saying that... this is a very common concept. Most rifles in the civil war used this concept. Look up the minie ball. When fired it balloons up because Of its hollow base. it will then fit the rifling. This is how most people shoot colt 51 navy conversations today. If it still has it .375 bore. They originally shot 38 Colt. It was a heal based bullet. Other then 22 rimfire. no one makes or really loads heal base bullets. So today people use hollow based bullets to shoot there 51 navy conversions. They are .357 bullets going down a .375 bore and because of its Hollow base it expands into the rifling. There are many factory ammos that make these loads. Since the hollow base .357 bullet works great in a .375 bore. I am trying the .357 bullet in a .386 bore. The worst thing that can happen. the bullet cant expand enough to engage the rifling. then tumble when it leaves the barrel. Making the gun lose all accuracy. It cant tumble in the barrel. Look up what happens to a bullet before it leaves the barrel. And you will see why. I hope this relieves your concerns🍻
Interesting about that minie ball idea...and I love that gun!!!
Thanks!! It should work. Being a lighter bullet because its hollowed out. it might be a weaker round. But it also can hold more powder. 🤷 so we will see. When i ever do come down. i will bring it and a lot of others for you to see and shoot if you have the time.🍻
Hey he is back!!!
Lol I can't wait for Caleb to see this
Lol i bet caleb will get a laugh out of this one
Best explanation of the Minié ball that I have ever heard.
Wow thanks squib. That means a lot to me coming from you. Hope all is well
@@snappers_antique_firearms it is. Busy as usual. Hope all is well with you.
@@squiblift2019 im ok crazy last few weeks tho. Glade to hear your doing good.
I've been checking for a new video Snapper. Nice to see you back. Another great video on a very specific topic I am not that well versed in but enjoyed. you made it all sound very easy/simple. Great work cobber.
Thanks steve i really tried to make it simple. I find this kind of thing interesting and fascinating. Especially when you don't have to permanently modify a gun.
Came back to watch again.
Thanks Squibb
I really like the black background, it really makes those gals shine.
Its just foam board with felt glued on it. Works great
Very cool. Looking forward to seeing how it shoots
Me to.. Hopefully sooner then later. Thanks for stopping by
O also i got some alder buckthorn in looking forward to making some of your blackpowder.
@@snappers_antique_firearms excellent!
Nice video, looking forward to seeing you shoot it 😎👍🇺🇸
Thanks hopefully I'll be able to shoot it sooner than later
awesome video i have an 1851 and 1861 navy originals converted i plan on using 9mm bullets 38 special cases but i still need to figure out how to drill a hollow base with a hand drill thank you!!!!! great chanel.
Thank you...i think you could definitely drill it with a hand drill. Use a Center finder ruler on the bullet to find center. Then with to pieces of wood clamped in a vise. drill right in the middle of where the two pieces come together. a hole a little smaller than the bullet you plan on using. That way you can hold the bullet tight without changing its shape. Then use a center punch so when you start drilling the drill bit wont walk. Come up with a depth you plan on drilling to. At that depth on the drill bit wrap tape as a depth Gage and stop. And probably best to use at least 2 drills or more. So you start drilling with a small drill and step up to the size you want. Hope this helps and thanks again.
Hope it works for you , love that thunderer !
Thanks i think it will work. I'm still pretty excited about the thunderer it's my very first double action revolver
@@snappers_antique_firearms enjoy it !!
Snapper: Love your channel.. I have a Pietta 1851 Navy replica with a 38 Colt/38 spl. Howell conversion cylinder. Of course the barrel is still .36 caliber groove diameter. I load .38 spl cases with Hornady 148 gr .358 caliber HBWC's over 17.5 gr FFFg seated to 1.400 " OAL.(almost full chamber length) Then I dip the exposed portion of the bullets in melted 50/50 beeswax/tallow for outside lubrication. They shoot quite accurately. Don't know if the hollow base would expand to .38 but they are in all reality little full wad cutter Minne balls and readily available and no need to drill out bases or use expensive hollow base molds. Look forward to reading about your further adventures with your Thunderer Doris J
Thanks i have hurd of them. They sound like the perfect thing to try as well. Thanks again..
Can’t wait to see that … best of luck!!!
Good to see you again like your videos 💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Thanks Victor🍻
interesting.
maybe the factory 38 hollow based wadcutter could be a primary option since you can buy them off the shelf.
I have been looking for some
@@snappers_antique_firearms you must be from california too!! you can't get jack here.
@@leadbullets4life no not California but very close.. Nevada
@@snappers_antique_firearms i wish i resided there or at least be as close as you are to the state line to zip in to reno or vegas gun shows, my baby brother lives in eugene oregon he was the smart one.
@@leadbullets4life yeah the gun shows here in vegas are phenomenal. Yeah California has become just crazy. Everytime i go there. i look forward to leaving. But las Vegas is where i live and its not the best place to live with a family.
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Snapper: Any luck getting hollow base bullets that work in your Thunderer? DJ
I have some rounds loaded i just haven't had the opportunity to go shooting. My life has been crazy since August. Hopefully i will be able to go shooting in a few weeks
@@snappers_antique_firearms Hope all will be calmer for you this new year and look forward to your upcoming posts. I really enjoyed the Griswold and Gunnison range episode
@@snappers_antique_firearms i just got a thunderer on layway i just found ya channel do more vids in this pls 🤓 we learn together 😇
@@dorisjohnson8857 i pray it will be a much calmer year to. I am glade you liked the Griswold and Gunnison video. I hope to be doing more videos on it as well. And many other projects i have been working on. Thanks again
@@Bucky1836 i have many videos planned on the thunderer. I have been wanting to shoot it to see it the bullets I loaded work. Unfortunately my parents passed away and i have been dealing with selling off the estate. Its in a different state then i live in. so i haven't had much time to get any gun stuff done. Especially shooting. But hopefully soon i can start cranking out videos
One day you will have a Lightning.
Will this ammunition have even lower pressure than a .41 Colt, reducing stress on the firearm as well?
I believe the pressure might be lower. because of such a lighter bullet. being it has a hollow base. it will be much lighter then just 38 spl normally. But it will also hold more powder. So i am not sure really.
Cool gun nevertheless
Thanks
Snapper I have some hollow base .38's that I shoot out of my 1861 Colt conversion that I cast out of an old Rapine bullet mold . I could send you some if you would like to try them . Just contact me and let me know .
Yes please!!!! i am having problems already with trying to hollow out the normal 38 bullets. I will pay you. Please email me at. Thewildsnapper@gmail.com
Also just to let you know i have been very sick. I haven't been this sick in a long time so if you dont hear from me right away. Thats why... been sleeping a lot.
@@snappers_antique_firearms Yeah I knew you were going to have trouble with using the ball nose , I've already been down that road , it didn't work for me ether . lol. I sure hope you get to felling better . I' ll be praying for you .
@@robertfriedel924 thanks brother. I will be looking forward to hearing from you threw email. And thanks i really hope i start feeling better soon. Crazy about a week ago i was thinking to myself its been a very long time since i have been really sick with a high fever. I must have jinxed myself
Could you plase send me a link for you Jesse James video
I think you're way way. Overthinking a simple process here bud.
When I fire form brass for my 375 Remington ultra mag from a 300 ultra mag it put a 300 ultra mag cartridge in my 375. point it at a Target you pull the trigger. LOUD BANG out pops a 375 brass.
You sure are fire yourself a 38 special out of your 41 magnum that's going to pop 41 brass. The questions will be too much pressure and blow your 41 colt revolver up. -- That's entire reason I watched the video to see if you could do that or if you had to download it with lower pressures.
The main reason I went this route. I also use this same ammo in a colt 1851 navy conversion in 38 colt. (It's just 38 special cut down a little) If I fire form the brass to the 41 it would no longer fit in the 38. I also do load 41 colt and just wanted to see if I could make the 38 fit in both guns. Believe it or not, this actually worked perfectly. I have a video on the channel of me shooting this 38 through the 41. I didn't have to down load the ammo. I load it with real black powder, not modern smokeless. So the pressure is not high.
The .38 cylinder is really kind of a cheat. Maybe the title should have said through a .41 BARREL.
you might be right. I could have shimmed the cylinder. But not wanting to make permanent changes to an antique. Plus the 38 cylinder is cheap. I have been told 38 spl brass can fire form to 41 colt. But never done it so i dont know if its true.
I am just beating you up a little bit. I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to experiment. I just don't want to be holding the Colt when it goes off because I never cared for lead splatter.
@@The-Armed-Pacifist lol lead splatter. Thats why its hard for me to get my wife to film shooting videos. Thanks for stopping by
50 percent chance of getting stuck inside the barrel, you don't do that.👿
Thank you for the concern. I am in the business and I've been doing this kind of stuff a very long time. And take all safety concerns serious. After saying that... this is a very common concept. Most rifles in the civil war used this concept. Look up the minie ball. When fired it balloons up because Of its hollow base. it will then fit the rifling. This is how most people shoot colt 51 navy conversations today. If it still has it .375 bore. They originally shot 38 Colt. It was a heal based bullet. Other then 22 rimfire. no one makes or really loads heal base bullets. So today people use hollow based bullets to shoot there 51 navy conversions. They are
.357 bullets going down a .375 bore and because of its Hollow base it expands into the rifling. There are many factory ammos that make these loads. Since the hollow base .357 bullet works great in a .375 bore. I am trying the .357 bullet in a .386 bore. The worst thing that can happen. the bullet cant expand enough to engage the rifling. then tumble when it leaves the barrel. Making the gun lose all accuracy. It cant tumble in the barrel. Look up what happens to a bullet before it leaves the barrel. And you will see why. I hope this relieves your concerns🍻