Great video, I'm a big fan of CVA center fire rifles. A extreme high quality product for a reasonable price point. Thanks for your in depth video, please keep making more videos. Your right it cost to dress out a rifle and set it up for what type of hunting, etc. your using it for. I think half the battle finding what ammo any rifle likes and great marksman ship. Remember practice goes a long way! All of us hunters rage junkies etc. want to find the best budget deals out there.
Thank you and appreciate the encouragement. I didn't realize how picky some rifles can be with different ammo until recently. I have to add multiple boxes of ammo to the budget now when buying a new rifle testing different grain weights and speeds. I have not started reloading yet but I am pretty sure the path I am on is leading me in that direction. We are having hunters inside the HuntLeague app vote right now on Gear of the Year items. There are a few different categories for low budget items and categories for bow hunters as well as rifle. It's always interesting to see what gear comes out on top. The CVA is definitely a contender for a 2024 Gear of the Year award. We shared our top picks last year but are in the process of naming selecting them now for this year.
Nice vid. First time I've come across your channel. Gonna sub for the upcoming cva content, I bought the lrh version, in 6.5 prc it's heavy but it's a shooter, .5" moa all day. It likes norma bondstrike 147 grain bullets, not norma whitetail as much at least with my boom stick.
.5" all day is what I have experienced and keep hearing. Appreciate you sharing your experience and glad you stumbled across the channel. Don't get disappointed when I start talking about other rifles, bows, leagues inside the HuntLeague app and other stuff thats not related to CVA! This definitely won't be the last time we focus on it though as that rifle is bound for some big adventures and hunts in the days ahead.
@@huntleague definitely won't your production quality is top notch. It works out for me I'm in the market for a new 7mm prc. So looking forward to non cva content.
@@j-yakkI’m also thinking about a7mm prc after purchasing a cva lrh in 6.5 prc. My local gun shop has a Savage 110 high country in 7 prc man that thing looks and feels Sweet 😂
6.5 creedmoor cva cascade lrh here. First time out the box and at 100 yards. 1st shot paper, 2nd shot bullseye, 3rd shot in the 2nd shots hole. Very accurate all day. Crazy accurate. Love this rifle
Thanks for sharing and adding your experience to the mix. I know its fun thinking about building out a custom rifle but it's hard to justify when you get performance like that straight out of the box.
Loving the surge of “budget rifles” that absolutely perform. It’s raising the bar, tikka rifles for 2025 will now all come with a threaded muzzle. Christensen is releasing a suv $1000 rifle. My Ruger American gen II with the mdt field stock upgrade is shooting .3 inch groups. It’s a fun era for hunting rifles!
i recently bought a cva cascade in 3006. it is a little heavy but so far it seems to be a great rifle. A good sling with rubber helps alot. the buck i shot at 200 yards went 40 yards using barnes 150 graiin ttsx. complete pass through
i love my cva casecade i got in 6.5 creedmore shoots aswell as my super expensive sakos, i have the 5 to 25 strike eagle on top and its an easy 1200 yard gun, i got the all black model which is 500 retail and with my employee discount i got it for 390, 390 bucks for threaded and adjustable trigger you cant beat that
I was telling a buddy today that I wonder if I just won the lottery with this rifle. Was it just perfectly machined? Can they all be this good!?! I am so jealous of that employee discount! What a steal.
@huntleague I've sold probably over 70 cva cascade in all the cascade models and like 4 to my friends in all different calibers and I haven't had to send a single one back for work and my buddys rifles all shoot under 3/4 MOA, 2 are 300 prcs, a 7 mag and a 308 plus my creedmore I've gotten half moa and better on occasions, plus I got my strike eagle and the vortex precious rings with bubble level for free using spiff points, half off a magpul bi pod and a 100 muzzle break I paid 59 dollars for also on average Hornady ammo is like 30% less with the employee discount so I get 143 eldx for like 34 bucks a box
@@outdoorrn2980 I like the .243 and 6.5CM options if you are wanting to use it for more than just varmint hunting (.243 is a great deer cartridge and is super versatile for youth and smaller hunters). If it is purely a coyote rifle, you can consider the 22-250, .204 ruger, or .223. Cost of ammunition makes the .223 appealing to me. My 6.5CM has been good at dropping them but it's 50/50 if the fur will be useable. The 22-250 and .223 are super accurate out to about 400 and may keep the fur intact a little better.
How far out do you feel comfortable taking an elk with that 6.5prc considering between that and 7mm prc. I have a old marlin 30-30 and an old remington 700 in 270 with old redfield 3x9s which I want to leave as is so this gun would fill in everything else and maybe a few 1-3 elk hunts I may go on in the near future...
My max comfort range is between 650-700yds. This fall my son and I were 882yds from a bull elk and I told my him that was not acceptable with this cartridge because it falls below the energy threshold I wanted to stay above for an ethical shot. Right after that a gun shot goes off from a hunter behind us on the ridge that we didn't see and he dropped the elk with a 6.5PRC at what had to be pushing a 1000yds. I have heard several 6.5PRC stories of elk taken in the 900 to even 1,200 yards. Personally that is outside of my comfort zone even though the rifle is capable of making shots at that distance. My buddy has used his Remington 700 in 270 on elk for years and it is a fantastic flat shooting cartridge. The performance is pretty close between that and the 6.5PRC. The 6.5 is a slightly longer more modern cartridge with a higher BC so it will perform a little better at longer distances and with wind. I may be a little conservative here but I would probably consider shots out to around 450-500 yards with the 270 even though you are shooting similar velocities and grain weights as the 6.5PRC. Knowing you already have the 270. I may encourage you to jump to the 7PRC over the 6.5PRC. I absolutely love the 6.5PRC so it is not a knock on that cartridge at all. I just think a 7PRC with a good brake or suppressor doesn't feel all that different from a recoil perspective and the extra range and knockdown power you get with that rifle would be worth it. I have found that ammo can be a little more picky with the 7prc than the 6.5prc. The 6.5 seems to eat just about anything you put through it where the 7's I have used (only 2 so far) seem to prefer more specific ammo.
Cool video man! I love the original CVA Cascade in 6.5 PRC, but I wish it had a locking bolt. People spend some crazy money on rifle scopes. Burris Fullfield E1 is good enough for me. I also don't hunt past 350 yards or so. I suppose for people that do hunt longer ranges a better scope would be ideal. I just couldn't fathom it for myself.
Those Burris scopes are money! What is crazy is I have never taken shots at wild game past 200 and neither of my boys have shot within 200. My 16 year old shot his deer at 212 and that’s his only big game animal. My youngest has taken a pig at 270, bear right at 400, and now an elk at 484 and that’s the angle compensated distance. It’s when you really start stretching it out that the FFP scopes really shine. It’s not even a magnification thing either as I still prefer 9-12x at targets in that 800-1000yards. Burris has a scope coming in January that I plan to pick up next year. Still spendy as I am sure it will be in the $500-700 range. They definitely don’t get the credit or attention they deserve for the quality of their scopes.
@@huntleague That is really interesting. I am in Ohio so never shoot past 300 yards in a field, or 75 yards or so in the woods. If I lived out west I could definitely see investing in FFP. At this point I have owned a decent amount of scopes and Burris hasn't let me down yet!
Savage been producing sub moa rifles at half the cost. Those $350 axis with the ammo they like shoot keyhole groups all day in an ultra light, short ,no frills rifle that puts in serious work...
I own a few Savage rifles and they are extremely accurate. I even have one of the $350 ones you are talking about in a 6.5CM that I originally bought for my son. It shoots tight groups but the action was so hard for him to move out of the box he had to hit it with his hand like a hammer to open it. The trigger pull was easily twice the weight of the CVA (the one we picked up didn't have the Accutrigger that you can adjust). We bought it in a 6.5CM for negligible recoil but the $350 model doesn't come with a threaded barrel or muzzle brake and it had significantly more recoil (light caliber but shooting out of a lightweight rifle with no brake still produced quite a bit of recoil). To make the $350 Savage shoot anything like the CVA it would have taken significant upgrades. Gunsmith cost for threading a barrel around here is about $150-200 and often times the Savage barrels are so thin you have to add a thread adapter that typically runs $30-50. Now add a cheap muzzle brake at $50-75 and a new trigger for $100-150. At that point you might be getting close to the rifles feeling similar in value and features, but you will have spent almost as much and I would take the CVA barrel profile, 70 degree bolt throw, trigger, and stock over that modified Savage rifle. But YES, you are 100% correct that you can buy a $350 Savage rifle that shoots sub MOA. That is not meant to be argumentative at all either. I genuinely appreciate the comment and feedback as it is important for people to hear, test, and see different opinions when they are thinking about purchasing a hunting rifle. I think the Savage ultralight rifle with the proof research barrel is one of the best values on the market today especially for Western hunters looking to shave weight for backcountry hunts. There is a lot to love about Savage rifles.
@@huntleague I have 2 savages in that 350$ area. For the trigger you can buy a kit for about $10. Or you can cut the spring in it down a half a turn. Both worked well for me
@@cjberan Do you have any idea what the trigger weight started at and where it ended up? The cheap one I own does not have the accutrigger so just want to make sure we are talking about the same one. I looked at trigger replacements but not springs to adjust the factory trigger.
The biggest problem with the cheap rifles are feeding issues. All mine have been accurate, but I have feeding issues with every one of my them such as the Savage Axis and Ruger Americans. I sold my Savage Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor but it was very accurate for me. I needed money at the time or I'd probably still have it. All my Ruger rifles have had bad feeding issues, even my Ruger Gunsite Scout. Ruger has been disappointing to say the least.
@@huntleague no I didn’t measure what it was. It’s a significant difference though I can say with no doubt. If you cut the spring you could make it to light even as mine is very light the lightest trigger pull I have ever used. The other is good as well and here is the kit to go that route th-cam.com/video/Gq_Jud5DTz0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1d7-YtrhOV-PFAry
That has been sad to see but so has everything else! To be honest at the current MSRP price you are within reach of getting a Bergara. The Bergara rifles are a little more polished but I do really like the 70 degree throw angle on the CVA. I think expectations make a huge difference when purchasing a rifle. My expectations were super high when I bought the Christensen MPR but getting 1-1.5" groups and having to really wait a while for the carbon barrel to cool because once it gets hot the bullets start walking and groups start spreading. Still a fine rifle but can't help but feel disappointed. I was thinking when I bought the CVA it would be a solid gun for my son. I picked it up last year before there was really any hype or much information or customer reviews. Coming out of the gates with bullet holes touching blew me away. I have offered to trade my son some pretty fancy rifles for his CVA but it's been a no go because of just how well that rifle shoots! The cost I am the most upset about right now is related to quality rain gear. Last time I bought rain gear I bought a complete set for under $100. Its starting to finally fail so I started looking at top tier stuff like Sitka, Kuiu, First Lite, Stone Glacier, Forloh, etc just the jacket is running $350+. I need some real suggestions for solving this problem otherwise I am looking for a few folks to help me start a hunting rain gear company for backcountry hunters!!!
I absolutely love the Tikka action and their factory trigger is one of the best. I recommend them quite a bit to folks to at least take a look at. Most of the $700-800 Tikka's don't come threaded or with a muzzle brake which is kind of a big deal as I originally bought the CVA as a youth hunting rifle. Tikka's are really light weight which I know a lot of people appreciate but again that adds to the felt recoil. That is why I went with the CVA over the Tikka in this instance and in this price range. No regrets with the CVA as it is a dream to shoot, its just a bit heavy.
@@What_Fred_Said CVA is owned now by BPI which also owns Bergara. I know many if not all of the barrels are made in Spain for Bergara. I think the XT uses a Bergara barrle which is made in Spain. BPI is based out of Lawrenceville, Georgia and I know they are building rifles there now. With how many rifles Bergara and CVA now have in their lineup I am sure they are making some in Georgia but getting parts from all over. There are plenty of rifle companies that really offer made in America products. I made a video a few years ago walking people through Seekins Precision facility in Idaho. It is unreal how they machine and put their rifles together. Super impressive!
Agreed. I do like the texture and soft feel of it but you are getting a no frills stock with that rifle. I really love rifles with a modern chassis system but most of the aftermarket ones are more expensive than the rifle itself.
Those are pigs, aren't they? Pass the Tikka, and hold the fluff. They are even on sale right now. Saw a brand new Tikka the other day for $650, with a $100 factory rebate. Can't beat that for a damn good rifle that weighs around 6 pounds. Not 8 pounds!! No thanks on the CVA.
That is a steal of a deal on a Tikka! They make fantastic rifles and the action is 10X smoother than the CVA. No judgement whatsoever if you can pick one up at that price. Did the barrel come threaded? With a brake?
CVA is seriously dropping the ball by not having a 26" on the magnum calibers. Hence they are lying when comparing calibers, taunting a smaller cartridge being better than a larger one.
I think we will start seeing it become harder and harder to get 26" barrels as suppressors continue to grow in popularity. More and more hunters I know are shooting suppressed and whether you are hunting from a stand or spot and stalk the overall length is becoming a real factor. I think the demand for a 26" barrel especially on a rifle that does not have a folding chassis will all but disappear in the coming years. It is nice getting that extra speed though when you with that longer barrel length.
@huntleague it's to bad corporate greed turned it into this, less velocity and unburned powder results in less energy at the animal. This means it is unethical ideology, it's a shame people disrespect our majestic wildlife like that!!!!
Thanks, but I'll stick with a Ruger American Gen 2. Who-Tee-Who made a three shot group with one that looked like a single .45 cal round hit. Was it the rifle or the shooter that beat your 1/2 MOA? The fact that you had to glue that stock up for rigidity is disappointing. th-cam.com/video/MC_T0CYa07A/w-d-xo.html
We bought the CVA right when the Gen 2 was rolling out last year. Ruger makes a fantastic rifle and I love the improvements they made with the Gen 2. My son spends a lot of time behind his Ruger Precision .22lr and really learned a lot about long range shooting with that rifle at distances out past 500 yards which I didn't even know was possible with a .22lr. Only issue I have encountered with the Gen2 is an occasional feed issue but that is something I have also experienced once or twice with the CVA.
Who-tee actually recommends the cva over the ruger if you read the comments in his videos. Nothing against the ruger, but I think everyone says cva all day!
Thanks for sharing that comment. I may poll the HuntLeague user base in the app and see what people would consider a "budget" rifle. Sub $500 is probably a real threshold. When I bought this rifle it seemed like the going rate was in the 600's. I was actually surprised before I started filming the video when I pulled the current MSRP of $875. At that price point it starts to leave that budget category and gets caught up in the mud with every other manufacturers rifle that tries to hoover just south of the $1000 mark. I am okay with that though as I agree with what you said that the Cascade is a "nice rifle". Its super nice with premium features and performance and a definite step up from what you get with a budget rifle.
They are both owned by BPI and the barrel is definitely Bergara which is why it is so accurate. The action on the CVA is a 70 degree bolt throw which I prefer compared to the Remington 700 action (90 degree) found on all of the Bergara rifles. The action is quite a bit smoother on the Bergara rifles over the CVA. I have spent a lot of time at the range recently with both and there are some similarities and shared components for sure but way too many differences to say they are the same thing.
@@REDNECKROOTS As a high school student Weatherby was the absolute gold standard in my mind. I didn't think it was even possible for there to be a finer rifle. A lot has changed over the last 25 years but if it ain't broke...
@@REDNECKROOTS DANG!!! Leaving the budget department in the rear view. Those Mark V's are fancy town. You will have to let me know your thoughts and if it meets your expectations. I used a Mark V on a pig hunt in Georgia when I was a junior in high school that someone let me borrow. Made a rookie mistake too with it where I was looking at a pig, got down on a knee and tried quietly cycling the action to load a round. I never took my eye off the pig and when I pulled the trigger it went CLICK. I didn't pull the bolt back far enough to load the round and that pig took off! Let's just say it wasn't the rifles fault!
Great video, I'm a big fan of CVA center fire rifles. A extreme high quality product for a reasonable price point. Thanks for your in depth video, please keep making more videos. Your right it cost to dress out a rifle and set it up for what type of hunting, etc. your using it for. I think half the battle finding what ammo any rifle likes and great marksman ship. Remember practice goes a long way! All of us hunters rage junkies etc. want to find the best budget deals out there.
Thank you and appreciate the encouragement. I didn't realize how picky some rifles can be with different ammo until recently. I have to add multiple boxes of ammo to the budget now when buying a new rifle testing different grain weights and speeds. I have not started reloading yet but I am pretty sure the path I am on is leading me in that direction.
We are having hunters inside the HuntLeague app vote right now on Gear of the Year items. There are a few different categories for low budget items and categories for bow hunters as well as rifle. It's always interesting to see what gear comes out on top. The CVA is definitely a contender for a 2024 Gear of the Year award. We shared our top picks last year but are in the process of naming selecting them now for this year.
Nice vid. First time I've come across your channel. Gonna sub for the upcoming cva content, I bought the lrh version, in 6.5 prc it's heavy but it's a shooter, .5" moa all day. It likes norma bondstrike 147 grain bullets, not norma whitetail as much at least with my boom stick.
.5" all day is what I have experienced and keep hearing. Appreciate you sharing your experience and glad you stumbled across the channel. Don't get disappointed when I start talking about other rifles, bows, leagues inside the HuntLeague app and other stuff thats not related to CVA! This definitely won't be the last time we focus on it though as that rifle is bound for some big adventures and hunts in the days ahead.
@@huntleague definitely won't your production quality is top notch. It works out for me I'm in the market for a new 7mm prc. So looking forward to non cva content.
@@j-yakkI’m also thinking about a7mm prc after purchasing a cva lrh in 6.5 prc. My local gun shop has a Savage 110 high country in 7 prc man that thing looks and feels Sweet 😂
6.5 creedmoor cva cascade lrh here. First time out the box and at 100 yards. 1st shot paper, 2nd shot bullseye, 3rd shot in the 2nd shots hole. Very accurate all day. Crazy accurate. Love this rifle
Thanks for sharing and adding your experience to the mix. I know its fun thinking about building out a custom rifle but it's hard to justify when you get performance like that straight out of the box.
Loving the surge of “budget rifles” that absolutely perform. It’s raising the bar, tikka rifles for 2025 will now all come with a threaded muzzle. Christensen is releasing a suv $1000 rifle. My Ruger American gen II with the mdt field stock upgrade is shooting .3 inch groups. It’s a fun era for hunting rifles!
Thank you for the video
i recently bought a cva cascade in 3006. it is a little heavy but so far it seems to be a great rifle. A good sling with rubber helps alot. the buck i shot at 200 yards went 40 yards using barnes 150 graiin ttsx. complete pass through
Great choice and I am glad you have already experienced some success in the field with that rifle. I still love the 30.06.
i love my cva casecade i got in 6.5 creedmore shoots aswell as my super expensive sakos, i have the 5 to 25 strike eagle on top and its an easy 1200 yard gun, i got the all black model which is 500 retail and with my employee discount i got it for 390, 390 bucks for threaded and adjustable trigger you cant beat that
I was telling a buddy today that I wonder if I just won the lottery with this rifle. Was it just perfectly machined? Can they all be this good!?!
I am so jealous of that employee discount! What a steal.
@huntleague I've sold probably over 70 cva cascade in all the cascade models and like 4 to my friends in all different calibers and I haven't had to send a single one back for work and my buddys rifles all shoot under 3/4 MOA, 2 are 300 prcs, a 7 mag and a 308 plus my creedmore I've gotten half moa and better on occasions, plus I got my strike eagle and the vortex precious rings with bubble level for free using spiff points, half off a magpul bi pod and a 100 muzzle break I paid 59 dollars for also on average Hornady ammo is like 30% less with the employee discount so I get 143 eldx for like 34 bucks a box
Would this be a good coyote rifle in .243?
@outdoorrn2980 yeah 243 or 22 250
@@outdoorrn2980 I like the .243 and 6.5CM options if you are wanting to use it for more than just varmint hunting (.243 is a great deer cartridge and is super versatile for youth and smaller hunters). If it is purely a coyote rifle, you can consider the 22-250, .204 ruger, or .223. Cost of ammunition makes the .223 appealing to me. My 6.5CM has been good at dropping them but it's 50/50 if the fur will be useable. The 22-250 and .223 are super accurate out to about 400 and may keep the fur intact a little better.
How far out do you feel comfortable taking an elk with that 6.5prc considering between that and 7mm prc. I have a old marlin 30-30 and an old remington 700 in 270 with old redfield 3x9s which I want to leave as is so this gun would fill in everything else and maybe a few 1-3 elk hunts I may go on in the near future...
My max comfort range is between 650-700yds. This fall my son and I were 882yds from a bull elk and I told my him that was not acceptable with this cartridge because it falls below the energy threshold I wanted to stay above for an ethical shot.
Right after that a gun shot goes off from a hunter behind us on the ridge that we didn't see and he dropped the elk with a 6.5PRC at what had to be pushing a 1000yds. I have heard several 6.5PRC stories of elk taken in the 900 to even 1,200 yards. Personally that is outside of my comfort zone even though the rifle is capable of making shots at that distance.
My buddy has used his Remington 700 in 270 on elk for years and it is a fantastic flat shooting cartridge. The performance is pretty close between that and the 6.5PRC. The 6.5 is a slightly longer more modern cartridge with a higher BC so it will perform a little better at longer distances and with wind. I may be a little conservative here but I would probably consider shots out to around 450-500 yards with the 270 even though you are shooting similar velocities and grain weights as the 6.5PRC.
Knowing you already have the 270. I may encourage you to jump to the 7PRC over the 6.5PRC. I absolutely love the 6.5PRC so it is not a knock on that cartridge at all. I just think a 7PRC with a good brake or suppressor doesn't feel all that different from a recoil perspective and the extra range and knockdown power you get with that rifle would be worth it. I have found that ammo can be a little more picky with the 7prc than the 6.5prc. The 6.5 seems to eat just about anything you put through it where the 7's I have used (only 2 so far) seem to prefer more specific ammo.
Top this rifle with a Meopta Optica5 4x-20x 2FP scope @ 22 oz. Around 500 bucks if you look.
Nice vid matey xden
Cool video man! I love the original CVA Cascade in 6.5 PRC, but I wish it had a locking bolt. People spend some crazy money on rifle scopes. Burris Fullfield E1 is good enough for me. I also don't hunt past 350 yards or so. I suppose for people that do hunt longer ranges a better scope would be ideal. I just couldn't fathom it for myself.
Those Burris scopes are money! What is crazy is I have never taken shots at wild game past 200 and neither of my boys have shot within 200. My 16 year old shot his deer at 212 and that’s his only big game animal. My youngest has taken a pig at 270, bear right at 400, and now an elk at 484 and that’s the angle compensated distance. It’s when you really start stretching it out that the FFP scopes really shine. It’s not even a magnification thing either as I still prefer 9-12x at targets in that 800-1000yards.
Burris has a scope coming in January that I plan to pick up next year. Still spendy as I am sure it will be in the $500-700 range. They definitely don’t get the credit or attention they deserve for the quality of their scopes.
@@huntleague That is really interesting. I am in Ohio so never shoot past 300 yards in a field, or 75 yards or so in the woods. If I lived out west I could definitely see investing in FFP. At this point I have owned a decent amount of scopes and Burris hasn't let me down yet!
Savage been producing sub moa rifles at half the cost.
Those $350 axis with the ammo they like shoot keyhole groups all day in an ultra light, short ,no frills rifle that puts in serious work...
I own a few Savage rifles and they are extremely accurate. I even have one of the $350 ones you are talking about in a 6.5CM that I originally bought for my son. It shoots tight groups but the action was so hard for him to move out of the box he had to hit it with his hand like a hammer to open it. The trigger pull was easily twice the weight of the CVA (the one we picked up didn't have the Accutrigger that you can adjust). We bought it in a 6.5CM for negligible recoil but the $350 model doesn't come with a threaded barrel or muzzle brake and it had significantly more recoil (light caliber but shooting out of a lightweight rifle with no brake still produced quite a bit of recoil).
To make the $350 Savage shoot anything like the CVA it would have taken significant upgrades. Gunsmith cost for threading a barrel around here is about $150-200 and often times the Savage barrels are so thin you have to add a thread adapter that typically runs $30-50. Now add a cheap muzzle brake at $50-75 and a new trigger for $100-150. At that point you might be getting close to the rifles feeling similar in value and features, but you will have spent almost as much and I would take the CVA barrel profile, 70 degree bolt throw, trigger, and stock over that modified Savage rifle.
But YES, you are 100% correct that you can buy a $350 Savage rifle that shoots sub MOA. That is not meant to be argumentative at all either. I genuinely appreciate the comment and feedback as it is important for people to hear, test, and see different opinions when they are thinking about purchasing a hunting rifle. I think the Savage ultralight rifle with the proof research barrel is one of the best values on the market today especially for Western hunters looking to shave weight for backcountry hunts. There is a lot to love about Savage rifles.
@@huntleague I have 2 savages in that 350$ area. For the trigger you can buy a kit for about $10. Or you can cut the spring in it down a half a turn. Both worked well for me
@@cjberan Do you have any idea what the trigger weight started at and where it ended up? The cheap one I own does not have the accutrigger so just want to make sure we are talking about the same one. I looked at trigger replacements but not springs to adjust the factory trigger.
The biggest problem with the cheap rifles are feeding issues. All mine have been accurate, but I have feeding issues with every one of my them such as the Savage Axis and Ruger Americans. I sold my Savage Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor but it was very accurate for me. I needed money at the time or I'd probably still have it. All my Ruger rifles have had bad feeding issues, even my Ruger Gunsite Scout. Ruger has been disappointing to say the least.
@@huntleague no I didn’t measure what it was. It’s a significant difference though I can say with no doubt. If you cut the spring you could make it to light even as mine is very light the lightest trigger pull I have ever used. The other is good as well and here is the kit to go that route th-cam.com/video/Gq_Jud5DTz0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1d7-YtrhOV-PFAry
The cost went up 100.00 in the past year
That has been sad to see but so has everything else! To be honest at the current MSRP price you are within reach of getting a Bergara. The Bergara rifles are a little more polished but I do really like the 70 degree throw angle on the CVA. I think expectations make a huge difference when purchasing a rifle. My expectations were super high when I bought the Christensen MPR but getting 1-1.5" groups and having to really wait a while for the carbon barrel to cool because once it gets hot the bullets start walking and groups start spreading. Still a fine rifle but can't help but feel disappointed. I was thinking when I bought the CVA it would be a solid gun for my son. I picked it up last year before there was really any hype or much information or customer reviews. Coming out of the gates with bullet holes touching blew me away. I have offered to trade my son some pretty fancy rifles for his CVA but it's been a no go because of just how well that rifle shoots!
The cost I am the most upset about right now is related to quality rain gear. Last time I bought rain gear I bought a complete set for under $100. Its starting to finally fail so I started looking at top tier stuff like Sitka, Kuiu, First Lite, Stone Glacier, Forloh, etc just the jacket is running $350+. I need some real suggestions for solving this problem otherwise I am looking for a few folks to help me start a hunting rain gear company for backcountry hunters!!!
$700-$800. Why not suggest a tikka?
I absolutely love the Tikka action and their factory trigger is one of the best. I recommend them quite a bit to folks to at least take a look at. Most of the $700-800 Tikka's don't come threaded or with a muzzle brake which is kind of a big deal as I originally bought the CVA as a youth hunting rifle. Tikka's are really light weight which I know a lot of people appreciate but again that adds to the felt recoil. That is why I went with the CVA over the Tikka in this instance and in this price range. No regrets with the CVA as it is a dream to shoot, its just a bit heavy.
Where are they made? If I can buy made in the USA I will.
@@What_Fred_Said CVA is owned now by BPI which also owns Bergara. I know many if not all of the barrels are made in Spain for Bergara. I think the XT uses a Bergara barrle which is made in Spain. BPI is based out of Lawrenceville, Georgia and I know they are building rifles there now. With how many rifles Bergara and CVA now have in their lineup I am sure they are making some in Georgia but getting parts from all over.
There are plenty of rifle companies that really offer made in America products. I made a video a few years ago walking people through Seekins Precision facility in Idaho. It is unreal how they machine and put their rifles together. Super impressive!
Seems to be the same complaint about this rifle in every video I watch. They all say the stock could be a lot better.
Agreed. I do like the texture and soft feel of it but you are getting a no frills stock with that rifle. I really love rifles with a modern chassis system but most of the aftermarket ones are more expensive than the rifle itself.
@huntleague Right about the chassis systems. I'm gonna show my age, but I love the look of a high grade wood stock.
Those are pigs, aren't they? Pass the Tikka, and hold the fluff. They are even on sale right now. Saw a brand new Tikka the other day for $650, with a $100 factory rebate. Can't beat that for a damn good rifle that weighs around 6 pounds. Not 8 pounds!! No thanks on the CVA.
That is a steal of a deal on a Tikka! They make fantastic rifles and the action is 10X smoother than the CVA. No judgement whatsoever if you can pick one up at that price. Did the barrel come threaded? With a brake?
CVA is seriously dropping the ball by not having a 26" on the magnum calibers. Hence they are lying when comparing calibers, taunting a smaller cartridge being better than a larger one.
I think we will start seeing it become harder and harder to get 26" barrels as suppressors continue to grow in popularity. More and more hunters I know are shooting suppressed and whether you are hunting from a stand or spot and stalk the overall length is becoming a real factor. I think the demand for a 26" barrel especially on a rifle that does not have a folding chassis will all but disappear in the coming years.
It is nice getting that extra speed though when you with that longer barrel length.
@huntleague it's to bad corporate greed turned it into this, less velocity and unburned powder results in less energy at the animal. This means it is unethical ideology, it's a shame people disrespect our majestic wildlife like that!!!!
shame they do not make left hand
Totally agree. That is a huge bummer for lefties!
Thanks, but I'll stick with a Ruger American Gen 2. Who-Tee-Who made a three shot group with one that looked like a single .45 cal round hit. Was it the rifle or the shooter that beat your 1/2 MOA? The fact that you had to glue that stock up for rigidity is disappointing. th-cam.com/video/MC_T0CYa07A/w-d-xo.html
We bought the CVA right when the Gen 2 was rolling out last year. Ruger makes a fantastic rifle and I love the improvements they made with the Gen 2. My son spends a lot of time behind his Ruger Precision .22lr and really learned a lot about long range shooting with that rifle at distances out past 500 yards which I didn't even know was possible with a .22lr. Only issue I have encountered with the Gen2 is an occasional feed issue but that is something I have also experienced once or twice with the CVA.
Who-tee actually recommends the cva over the ruger if you read the comments in his videos. Nothing against the ruger, but I think everyone says cva all day!
Nice try, cascade is a nice rifle
It is not a budget rifle.
Thanks for sharing that comment. I may poll the HuntLeague user base in the app and see what people would consider a "budget" rifle. Sub $500 is probably a real threshold. When I bought this rifle it seemed like the going rate was in the 600's. I was actually surprised before I started filming the video when I pulled the current MSRP of $875. At that price point it starts to leave that budget category and gets caught up in the mud with every other manufacturers rifle that tries to hoover just south of the $1000 mark. I am okay with that though as I agree with what you said that the Cascade is a "nice rifle". Its super nice with premium features and performance and a definite step up from what you get with a budget rifle.
It's a Bergara
They are both owned by BPI and the barrel is definitely Bergara which is why it is so accurate. The action on the CVA is a 70 degree bolt throw which I prefer compared to the Remington 700 action (90 degree) found on all of the Bergara rifles. The action is quite a bit smoother on the Bergara rifles over the CVA. I have spent a lot of time at the range recently with both and there are some similarities and shared components for sure but way too many differences to say they are the same thing.
I'll stick with my tikas and weatherby vanguards. I've had great luck w my weatherby weatherguard bronze. 308
@@REDNECKROOTS As a high school student Weatherby was the absolute gold standard in my mind. I didn't think it was even possible for there to be a finer rifle. A lot has changed over the last 25 years but if it ain't broke...
@huntleague agreed! I'm gona buy my first mark v this year. I love weatherby! Even there vanguards are great.
@@REDNECKROOTS DANG!!! Leaving the budget department in the rear view. Those Mark V's are fancy town. You will have to let me know your thoughts and if it meets your expectations.
I used a Mark V on a pig hunt in Georgia when I was a junior in high school that someone let me borrow. Made a rookie mistake too with it where I was looking at a pig, got down on a knee and tried quietly cycling the action to load a round. I never took my eye off the pig and when I pulled the trigger it went CLICK. I didn't pull the bolt back far enough to load the round and that pig took off! Let's just say it wasn't the rifles fault!
You're just trying to be a salesman