Barbas's warning about giving Umbra to Clavicus Vile turned out to be true: forty years later the Umbra spirit attacked Clavicus and fled from his realm, powering the Infernal City of Umbriel which went on a path of destruction in Tamriel, namely destroying Gideon, Stormhold, and Lilmoth in Black Marsh, parts of Morrowind, and Cheydinhal in Cyrodiil.
The Emperor actually called for his Legion to burn down the town of Hackdirt, and the survivors rebuilt what they could. The whole Hackdirt quest is actually a parody/reference of HP Lovecraft's story 'A shadow over Insmouth.' Oh, and the reason the Legion was ordered to burn hackdirt was because of occult activity I believe.
So the 'outsiders' are Cyrodiilic Imperial soldiers. They make it sound like a foreign army or roving band of rogue mercenaries burned their town down.
It's more like a caged animal that has been beaten and now snarls at anything that comes near it. Hackdirt was a pretty lively and big town once upon a time, and they traded blood and souls of normal everyday people with the Deep Ones in return for wealth and prosperity.
I know everyone will probably say this, but Umbra is actually the most powerful longsword in the game. Weightless, too, if you never talk to Clavicus after retrieving the sword. Speaking of which, I'm still not sure if you know this, but active quest items will (almost) never actually weigh anything even if they display a weight number in your inventory. I forgot Hackdirt was a town of angry Wes Johnsons. EDIT: Also, shield bashing is actually a thing in Oblivion, but it triggers randomly after your Block skill reaches Expert tier (75). You'll probably start seeing enemies do that soon once they scale up a little more.
'Everything levels up with you' is one of the most critical failures of Oblivion. Forcing players to maximize each level up or they will end up like Mac.
I think the only game that really did leveling right was Morrowind. In Oblivion, everything becomes super powerful and everybody has super powerful armor. In Skyrim, after enough levels you are pretty much invincible and everyone still is using fur armor. I think Morrowind found a decent balance- it's hard in some places, easy in others. You can really only say you are powerful after you've collected ancient artifacts of great power and have leveled up super high in combat stats.
Subject I love Morrowind but the belencing was very bad. It starts hard and ends easy. And the belencing in Bloodmoon and Tribunal was all over the place. Overall I think Skyrims belencing is IMO the best but still not good.
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"It's weird that everyone levels up with you." Yeah that's one thing I don't like about Oblivion and Skyrim. Having NPCs level with you, especially endlessly made it feel like you never got any more powerful. Sure there were plenty of mobs that would level up with you in Morrowind, but those tended to be animals and monsters, and even then there weren't gobs of em all the time, instead most NPCs you fought were named, and by extension never respawned. So if you went somewhere with super powerful NPCs before you were ready, you knew it, or if you went somewhere later on with weak NPCs you felt all the more powerful because they stand no chance against you. Plus it felt a bit more memorable to see that each life taken had a name instead of endless waves of 'Bandits'. Kinda could make you think about what you were doing a little more.
To add to the lore: Lorkhan tricked the Aedra into creating Mundus, which is earth in the game (Tamriel is just a continent on Mundus) Nirn is the realm between Aetherius and Oblivion. The stars in the sky were made by the Aedra who escaped after killing Lorkhan, the sun was created by one of the more powerful Aedra- Magnus. The Magna Ge were the Aedra who escaped Nirn into Aetherius, so the stars and the sun are actually big holes in the sky that lead to Aetherius The Daedra are the ones who simply didn't help Lorkhan create Mundus. Not all Daedra are evil. Clavicus is simply a trickster, Azura is mostly good, Meridia is good and Sheogorath is neither good nor bad. Some of the Aedra make up the Eight Divines with Talos being the ascended soul of Tiber Septim who really isn't an Aedra, kind of became one but we'll just say he isn't one to make it easier. But all the stars are holes made by escaped Aedra.
You got Nirn and Mundus backwards. Nirn is the planet/earth, while Mundus is the realm that Nirn is located. The realm between Nirn and Aetherius is Oblivion. The Void is beyond even Aetherius.
Hearing the battle music at the end with the credits just made me incredibly nostalgic for some reason. This fandom is great, thank you to the La Fave boys for bringing us this wonderful content. The artwork, the TES lore and appreciation for the game and series is beautiful.
I thought the same thing. It definitely has to be Creeper. I mean the correlations are uncanny. The fact that he sells alchohol, can talk and has so much money must definetly have something to do with Barbas.
Fun fact about Umbra, they never decide if it's pronounced Oom-brah or Um-brah. I've decided to go and do fun facts now. Khajiits believe that dragons are huge cats.
I've been waiting for Umbra since the start. She's like THE secret challenge boss and iirc, her sword and armor is the best in the game. Tbh, it's a bad move giving up the sword for the Masque.
"Shadow over Hackdirt" is a reference to HP Lovecraft's "Shadow over Innismouth". The Mouslin Inn is a reference to the Gillman Inn, the Deep Ones are a reference to the Old Ones, the fact everyone is in-bred is a reference to the Fish-People. It's a weird and somewhat subtle reference. During the quest, if you sleep in the Inn, you get attacked in your sleep, which is a direct reference to a passage from the original story.
The Umbra sword actually does cause Clavicus a lot of problems, as covered in the novel set between Oblivion and Skyrim. The sentient spirit of Umbra actually escaped the sword and cut away a chunk of Vile's power, along with a portion of his realm which became the Infernal City. The book is a decent read though nothing special, and explains why Umbra doesn't return in Skyrim.
You can actually shield bash in Oblivion, you just need to level up Blocking enough to get the perk. It might be either Expert Block or Master I don't remember. But when you get a high enough Block skill, the game will automatically shield bash after you successfully block an attack, unless you get staggered.
Nice haircut, Max! I'm happy you guys have continued this series for so long. I still remember the first episode and it's awesome how long it's been since then.
I love the Hackdirt quest because of the way its triggered, you meet that really friendly argonian girl who tells you her mother runs a shop, then like 3 days later argonian girl leaves to Hackdirt on her favorite pony to resupply the shop in Chorrol and hasn't been seen since she slept in Moslin's Inn. so few quests let you meet someone before they disappear; to feel like someone you know might be in danger.
Possible sightings of Leafy in Cyrodiil 23:43 must suck being crushed under the shame of having no chin, wondered what he was up to after the content cop
5:59 3 years late but my 24 year old self just learned something. He said "jet black" and I said out loud "wait, how the hell does he know what jets are??" Thinking about it for a sec I realized that it doesn't really make sense to think about literal jets (planes), so I googled it. Jet is a gemstone. *Sigh*
Now that the guild quests have been completed for some time, I feel that we are nearing the final stretch of the oblivion play through, part of me is saddened by that idea but part of me is really excited to see what you guys play through next, whatever game it is (hopefully Skyrim though :p)
Umbra is one of the most powerful weapons in the game attack wise, plus it looks badass. Attack power is the one thing mac is lacking 😂Hope that helmet was worth it lol
Some extra lore/trivia; the story of the two elder scrolls books set between Oblivion and Skyrim involve Clavicus Vile and the fallout of him getting Umbra.
Here's some background lore for you guys. Umbra is a sword originally in Morrowind, belonging to an Orc at the time. Supposedly it just possesses whomever wields it. The "ruin" Barbas talks about refers to the eventual events of the 2 published Elder Scrolls novels, which have the spirit of Umbra itself running amock in Tamriel some 200 years before Skyrim. So in giving back the sword Mac has brought cataclysm to the world, and by extent the Empire. Thanks Mac
you guys are awesome :D watching a gameplay of a game released in 2006 that I've played through countless of times while Im supposed to work on my thesis :D keep it up haha by the way, when Barbas says "For a while I was a scamp making deals with Orcs" he refers to an npc vendor in Morrowind, a creeper living in Caldera, who happens to have 5k gold making him the 2nd richest trader of the game :D
Fun fact: 3:06 is a reference to Morrowind, where there's a house full of Orcs and a friendly scamp upstairs that will buy your loot for very reasonable prices
A little bit of a lore lesson, if you are willing to read. There are actually way more Aedras than Daedras. The difference between them is that Aedras are those beings, that worked on creating Mundus, so the world the game is set in. Daedras are those, who didn't take part in the process of creation of the world. They literally translate to "not our ancestors", and Aedras are "our ancestors". The Divines however, are those Aedras who not only took part in creation of Mundus, but also decided to stay "inside" (not get back to Aeternus [Aedras realm]) and kind of power up the world. They are actually sometimes visnle on the sky as planets, although it is just how the mortals minds interpretate their presence. It is impossible for us to understand how actually nine infinite beings can fit in a limited space (Mundus) so theres is still place for anything else. Also another difference between Daedras and Aedras is, that Aedras can create. They can craft something from their own essence. Daedras can ONLY change. Good examples are daedric artifacts, such as Volendrung, so Malacaths hammer. It was originally a dwarvem hammer, which was transformed by the Daedric infulence. Daedras also can't die. Their essence isn't strictly "related" to anything made of "them" (becouse they can't do it). On the other hand, Aedras, so also the Divines, can create something form "nothing", so their essence is tied to some created objects. That means they can die. Best example is Lorkhan, or Shor, or Shezzar, same dude. He was an Aedra who started the whole plan to create Mundus. Akatosh, or Auri-El, killed him with his bow (for kind of tricking other Aedras into spending their essence to creata Mundus) and placed his heart in a place which today is know as The Red Mountain. It is said that Messer and Secunda, Nirns' moons, are Lorkhans body and head. Another example of a "dead god" is Yffre (can't really remember the spelling, sorry), an Aedra whose power is decribed as Nirns roots, whatever the fuck that means. That was a long lesson, I hope maybe someone found at least some informations useful or interesting. You got any questions, asked ahead, although a lot of lore is still pretty much a mistery, and that's why it's so cool. Sorry for a long comment, love you Max and Emmet, keep up the good work
"For a while I was a scamp, making deals with Orcs". In Morrowind, you can find a scamp called "Creeper" in a place called "Ghorak Manor". Ghorak Manor is filled with Orcs, and Creeper will sell you stuff and buy pretty much everything you have, at full value. So I guess this means Barbas appears in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, making him one of the most often reoccurring characters in the Elders Scrolls.
I would love to see you two do a Morrowind play through, only downside is that it is more story based and immersion focused, and doesn't have the whacky ragdolls or comedic moments of Oblivion. Thanks for these amazing let's plays!
Also if you guys tackle Skyrim next, it's worth taking Mjoll as a follower. You can get her at level 13 and she's one of the most versatile followers in the game. She's proficient in heavy armour, good with two-handed, one-handed & shield, pretty accurate with a bow and can even dual-wield. She's very tanky and also can't be killed. She also has a lot of radiant dialogue while out on the road which adds more to her character than other followers.
Barbas warns you because the sword has some of vile's essence , and if you give it to him he will return it to his relm, where the swords essence escapes and wreaks havoc there... which also affects tamriel but i don't remember how. Also you guys should really read about the creation of Nirn , it may change your perspective of the game so beware. Btw,awesome vid as always.
Found this on elder scrolls wiki: Barbas's warning about giving Umbra to Clavicus Vile turned out to be true: forty years later the Umbra spirit attacked Clavicus and fled from his realm, powering the Infernal City of Umbriel which went on a path of destruction in Tamriel, namely destroying Gideon, Stormhold, and Lilmoth in Black Marsh, parts of Morrowind, and Cheydinhal in Cyrodiil.
If you follow up on the Jemane brothers quest you started and do the one afterwards too, I believe the reward is a unique looking ebony shield - the design is a gold tree (Chorrol's symbol), pretty sweet :D
Wow, just realised that Barbas was previously the scamp called Creeper in Caldera in Morrowind. The one living in a house with lots of orcs that buy your swag for retail price!
I'd like to clear up the lore stuff at the start. Lorkhan was indeed the one that went "Hey, let's make a realm!" but it was 14 Daedra that didn't partake in Mundus' creation. Meridia was one of the Et'Ada that was helping in Mundus' creation, but talked to the 14 Daedra and was kicked out by the Et'Ada because of that. This is what makes 15 Daedric Princes. After a while, Magnus is like "Why do I feel weaker than normal?" then realizes that working on Mundus is weakening him. So he's like "PEACE" and leaves the realm and leaves a massive as fuck hole in the sky (AKA, the sun). Many of the other spirits are like "What was his problem?" and continue working. After a little bit longer, more spirits are like "WHY ARE WE GETTING WEAKER?" and realize why Magnus left. Of course, not all of them figure this out, but the ones that did gtfo'd Mundus also leaving holes in the sky (AKA, the stars). The ones that stayed were the Ehlnofey (They stayed by choice, not because they literally couldn't). The ones that still had a decent amount of power were the Aedra (AKA, Divines), and the Et'Ada that were even weaker than the Aedra became men and mer or even laws of nature. Iirc, men sided with Lorkhan, while the mer sided with the Aedra. A big war happens, men (called wandering Ehlnofey) are defeated by the Aedra and mer (called static Ehlnofey), after which the Aedra "killed" Lorkhan. But Lorkhan cheated by being literally tied to Mundus on such a level that the only way he could truly die was if Mundus itself was outright destroyed (This is where the Aldmeri Dominion seeking out to destroy the towers theory comes from). So, Auriel and the rest of the Aedra "disabled" Lorkhan by ripping his heart out of his body and cutting him in half (His body is literally the moons) and Auriel tied the heart of Lorkhan to an arrow and fired the arrow from his bow. Where the heart landed became red mountain. After that, the Aedra became the planets in Mundus and the rest of the Ehlnofey either became more men/mer or became other laws of nature (Also called "Earth Bones"). Another Daedra was created by a powerful Ehlnofey being eaten by one of the princes. Then the 17th prince was created by one of the princes being cursed by the other 15 princes. So, until the Shivering Isles, there was 16 princes, just one was two sides of one coin...
Once you guys go into the cave to save the argonian girl, there’s a spot in the cave where you can hear the “deep ones” it’s these unique howls that you cant find anywhere else in the game, it’s really interesting
I think the point is Clavicus makes deals and he sends Barbas out to try and get you to renegade on his deals so he can corrupt you and claim your soul etc like all evil gods do. Barbas is the trickster, which makes people think Barbas is the real god and Clavicus vile is just a servant, a part of the ruse as it were. Who knows, Clavicus is a cool character in eldar scrolls.
Yeah thats the point, he makes you a better deal but its not the one you made. He's trying to get you to break the pact with the god so the god can do whatever he wants with your soul.
Well, two things, first of all, how do we know that breaking the deal results in him claiming your soul, and second of all, clavicus is the one who tries to make you break the deal in Skyrim. The deal was, give the axe get the masque, clavicus tried to get you to keep the axe.
You can actually shield bash in Oblivion, but it's an automatic counterattack that you acquire when reaching expert block, you can't do it manually like in Skyrim.
"How can you tell his health is low?"
- Max, 59 episodes into the let's play after wondering the same thing in the last episode
wow you can tell how much health they have by the noice they make? amazing
Max goes to the doctor's office. Doctor puts his cursor over Max.
Doctor: "I can see your health is low."
Max: "How can you tell?"
13:57
"It's over, Umbra! I have the High Ground."
Umbra: "You underestimate my power!"
* Hacks ineffectually at the column *
I always have flashbacks to the brotherhood assassin running down the hill and dying while shouting SITHIS SAVE ME whenever his health is low now haha
Barbas's warning about giving Umbra to Clavicus Vile turned out to be true: forty years later the Umbra spirit attacked Clavicus and fled from his realm, powering the Infernal City of Umbriel which went on a path of destruction in Tamriel, namely destroying Gideon, Stormhold, and Lilmoth in Black Marsh, parts of Morrowind, and Cheydinhal in Cyrodiil.
Yeah I really liked how the books showed us the result
looks like Clavicus's not doing a great job as a Daedric prince huh? and skyrim loading screen says Peryite is the weakest lmao
TES lore is hype af
Barbas the Dog
Barrabus the Gray
Barbarus the Planet
Barbarossa the Knight
Ponderosa the Steakhouse
Don't forget Barbados the Island!@@BubblewrapHighway
"Welcome everyone to episode 59".
of what
EPISODE 59 OF WHAT
suspens
Bruh, you wildin' out over there. 😂
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Umbra is probably my favorite weapon in the game. Also could we get a view of Mac’s Fame/Infamy ratings? Just wanna see how lopsided they are 😂
You actually can bash with a shield in Oblivion, but you need skill level 75 in block, and it occurs randomly when you block an attack
The Emperor actually called for his Legion to burn down the town of Hackdirt, and the survivors rebuilt what they could. The whole Hackdirt quest is actually a parody/reference of HP Lovecraft's story 'A shadow over Insmouth.' Oh, and the reason the Legion was ordered to burn hackdirt was because of occult activity I believe.
Indeed, and in Innsmouth the townsfolk have the facial features of fish (big eyes, small noses, big lips and a roundish face) much like in Hackdirt
So the 'outsiders' are Cyrodiilic Imperial soldiers. They make it sound like a foreign army or roving band of rogue mercenaries burned their town down.
It's more like a caged animal that has been beaten and now snarls at anything that comes near it. Hackdirt was a pretty lively and big town once upon a time, and they traded blood and souls of normal everyday people with the Deep Ones in return for wealth and prosperity.
I know everyone will probably say this, but Umbra is actually the most powerful longsword in the game. Weightless, too, if you never talk to Clavicus after retrieving the sword. Speaking of which, I'm still not sure if you know this, but active quest items will (almost) never actually weigh anything even if they display a weight number in your inventory.
I forgot Hackdirt was a town of angry Wes Johnsons.
EDIT: Also, shield bashing is actually a thing in Oblivion, but it triggers randomly after your Block skill reaches Expert tier (75). You'll probably start seeing enemies do that soon once they scale up a little more.
I would never trade the sword for the mask, it's one of the most unique and powerful weapons in the game
The game even disincentivizes you to complete the quest. Umbra will scale with your level and remain zero weight if you don’t complete the quest.
goldbrand and umbra are by far the strongest melee weapons in the game. nothing else comes close
Morfalath They should pick up goldbrand after the hackdirt quest tbh
nah, you can enchant way more powerful weapons using enchanting tables in the arcane university. And you can choose the effects that you want
Mark Noxin But umbra can scale with the player and weighs 0 if the quest remains incomplete. Plus it looks badass
Younglings, Umbra?! You killed younglings?!
Also. Those Hackdirt folk got that Insmouth look. Hmm, perfect spot for a Cthulu Cult den.
Right after watching 58, great timing there
Nice haircut by the way, Max
'Everything levels up with you' is one of the most critical failures of Oblivion. Forcing players to maximize each level up or they will end up like Mac.
I think the only game that really did leveling right was Morrowind.
In Oblivion, everything becomes super powerful and everybody has super powerful armor.
In Skyrim, after enough levels you are pretty much invincible and everyone still is using fur armor.
I think Morrowind found a decent balance- it's hard in some places, easy in others. You can really only say you are powerful after you've collected ancient artifacts of great power and have leveled up super high in combat stats.
Subject I love Morrowind but the belencing was very bad. It starts hard and ends easy. And the belencing in Bloodmoon and Tribunal was all over the place. Overall I think Skyrims belencing is IMO the best but still not good.
especially for the main story quests. If you do kvatch really late, the game does not take that into consideration and spawns tons of daedroth
Tomte Balance. Not belence. Never belence
let the belence flow through you
I can’t thank you guys enough for all of the joy you have given me through the months. You’ve inspired me to do things that I would have never even thought of. All I can say is thank you.
Every Tuesday I wake up as if it is any other day, and then I have a sudden realization: “Tuesdays are meant for rolling!” I hastily poor myself a glass of wine and prepare for whatever the LaFave Bros have in store.
The land of the Argonians is a strange place indeed
They say syndicates of wizards are leading a boycott of Imperial goods, on the Summerset Isles.
[*Cough*]
1:45 FUN FACT: Todd Howard ACTUALLY IS the voice of Cauvicus Vile.
"It's weird that everyone levels up with you."
Yeah that's one thing I don't like about Oblivion and Skyrim. Having NPCs level with you, especially endlessly made it feel like you never got any more powerful. Sure there were plenty of mobs that would level up with you in Morrowind, but those tended to be animals and monsters, and even then there weren't gobs of em all the time, instead most NPCs you fought were named, and by extension never respawned. So if you went somewhere with super powerful NPCs before you were ready, you knew it, or if you went somewhere later on with weak NPCs you felt all the more powerful because they stand no chance against you.
Plus it felt a bit more memorable to see that each life taken had a name instead of endless waves of 'Bandits'. Kinda could make you think about what you were doing a little more.
Everyone in Hackdirt have the LeafyIsHere skull shape lol
I was thinking that the whole time but I didn't wanna b mean
Hackdirt is actually a nod to the HP Lovecraft story The Shadow Over Innsmouth. You should seriously check that out
Funny how they were "escaping" via the roof, too.
To add to the lore:
Lorkhan tricked the Aedra into creating Mundus, which is earth in the game (Tamriel is just a continent on Mundus) Nirn is the realm between Aetherius and Oblivion. The stars in the sky were made by the Aedra who escaped after killing Lorkhan, the sun was created by one of the more powerful Aedra- Magnus. The Magna Ge were the Aedra who escaped Nirn into Aetherius, so the stars and the sun are actually big holes in the sky that lead to Aetherius
The Daedra are the ones who simply didn't help Lorkhan create Mundus. Not all Daedra are evil. Clavicus is simply a trickster, Azura is mostly good, Meridia is good and Sheogorath is neither good nor bad.
Some of the Aedra make up the Eight Divines with Talos being the ascended soul of Tiber Septim who really isn't an Aedra, kind of became one but we'll just say he isn't one to make it easier. But all the stars are holes made by escaped Aedra.
You got Nirn and Mundus backwards. Nirn is the planet/earth, while Mundus is the realm that Nirn is located. The realm between Nirn and Aetherius is Oblivion.
The Void is beyond even Aetherius.
AntiSkillshot ur right Nirn is the planet, my b. And I thought Mundus was between Aetherius and Oblivion, but ur probably right
Still waiting on the Vampire Dad trailer.
"Be weary on the roads citizen, it's the deadra, you see"
- random imperial solider-
This series has been great to listen to and watch while studying for my accounting class
Hearing the battle music at the end with the credits just made me incredibly nostalgic for some reason. This fandom is great, thank you to the La Fave boys for bringing us this wonderful content. The artwork, the TES lore and appreciation for the game and series is beautiful.
Gotta get back,
Back to the past,
Samurai Mac
When Barbos says "for a while i was a scamp, making deals with orcs" is this referencing the scamp merchant in Caldera in Morrowind?
I thought the same thing. It definitely has to be Creeper. I mean the correlations are uncanny. The fact that he sells alchohol, can talk and has so much money must definetly have something to do with Barbas.
There's actually a Camelworks video that talks about that.
th-cam.com/video/7DKJHvRjr8Q/w-d-xo.html
Time stamp 1:43+.
Joseph McPeek maybe, but Barbas was also seen in Redguard when Cyrus was trying to get his sister's soul back from Clavicus Vile
@@emilyhamm4286 hi
Emmett’s face when Max asked about his armor skills 🤣 “I don’t look at any of that stuff” I’m dead
EDIT: 15:01
I have spent the last two weeks binging this series, and now I'm finally caught up enough to catch an upload early. Let's roll!
Logan Chandler Same here, spent a few days last week watching from the first episode to the last
No! Go back and get Umbra! It had 26 damage! You'd have been so strong!
Fun fact about Umbra, they never decide if it's pronounced Oom-brah or Um-brah. I've decided to go and do fun facts now.
Khajiits believe that dragons are huge cats.
I've been waiting for Umbra since the start.
She's like THE secret challenge boss and iirc, her sword and armor is the best in the game.
Tbh, it's a bad move giving up the sword for the Masque.
Lord God actually goldenbrand is better because of its fire enchantment, but besides that it’s the best
I've been binge watching you for the past couple days and you upload today! It's a gift 😊
Also when you go down in the tunnel you'll actually be able to hear the Deep Ones making scary noises.
Watching Mac on my Mac eating a Big Mac from Macdonalds. Funny how the universe works sometimes
i just watched all of these in less than a week. oblivion absolutely my favorite game ever and you guys are awesome!!
"Shadow over Hackdirt" is a reference to HP Lovecraft's "Shadow over Innismouth". The Mouslin Inn is a reference to the Gillman Inn, the Deep Ones are a reference to the Old Ones, the fact everyone is in-bred is a reference to the Fish-People. It's a weird and somewhat subtle reference. During the quest, if you sleep in the Inn, you get attacked in your sleep, which is a direct reference to a passage from the original story.
This is the wholesome brotherly video game content I keep coming back for. Keep it up guys!
The Umbra sword actually does cause Clavicus a lot of problems, as covered in the novel set between Oblivion and Skyrim.
The sentient spirit of Umbra actually escaped the sword and cut away a chunk of Vile's power, along with a portion of his realm which became the Infernal City. The book is a decent read though nothing special, and explains why Umbra doesn't return in Skyrim.
*Agility*
*Strength*
*Speed*
I literally can't breathe XD
I'm ready for episode 69. Also I like how clavicus is the loki of this game and he has the same kind of horned helm
You can actually shield bash in Oblivion, you just need to level up Blocking enough to get the perk. It might be either Expert Block or Master I don't remember. But when you get a high enough Block skill, the game will automatically shield bash after you successfully block an attack, unless you get staggered.
Nice haircut, Max! I'm happy you guys have continued this series for so long. I still remember the first episode and it's awesome how long it's been since then.
Earliest I've ever been. Love this series, great work.
I love the Hackdirt quest because of the way its triggered, you meet that really friendly argonian girl who tells you her mother runs a shop, then like 3 days later argonian girl leaves to Hackdirt on her favorite pony to resupply the shop in Chorrol and hasn't been seen since she slept in Moslin's Inn.
so few quests let you meet someone before they disappear; to feel like someone you know might be in danger.
Possible sightings of Leafy in Cyrodiil 23:43 must suck being crushed under the shame of having no chin, wondered what he was up to after the content cop
5:59 3 years late but my 24 year old self just learned something. He said "jet black" and I said out loud "wait, how the hell does he know what jets are??" Thinking about it for a sec I realized that it doesn't really make sense to think about literal jets (planes), so I googled it.
Jet is a gemstone.
*Sigh*
Now that the guild quests have been completed for some time, I feel that we are nearing the final stretch of the oblivion play through, part of me is saddened by that idea but part of me is really excited to see what you guys play through next, whatever game it is (hopefully Skyrim though :p)
It's Bishop ya its gonna be skyrim
IT'S MACS WORLD AND WE;RE JUST LIVING IN IT
Clavi doesn't sound like a girl, he sounds like a child, which is how he SHOULD sound
Umbra is one of the most powerful weapons in the game attack wise, plus it looks badass. Attack power is the one thing mac is lacking 😂Hope that helmet was worth it lol
Hey guys thanks for always making me laugh! been watching you guys since this time last year
The lore behind Clavicus' mask makes it a perfect fit for Mac.
Some extra lore/trivia; the story of the two elder scrolls books set between Oblivion and Skyrim involve Clavicus Vile and the fallout of him getting Umbra.
Looking smashing with the new haircut, Max. Shame you guys stole the book before turning to the next spooky page though.
Here's some background lore for you guys. Umbra is a sword originally in Morrowind, belonging to an Orc at the time. Supposedly it just possesses whomever wields it. The "ruin" Barbas talks about refers to the eventual events of the 2 published Elder Scrolls novels, which have the spirit of Umbra itself running amock in Tamriel some 200 years before Skyrim. So in giving back the sword Mac has brought cataclysm to the world, and by extent the Empire. Thanks Mac
The backstory to the Daedra and Aedra reminds me quite a bit of the Silmarillion.
you guys are awesome :D watching a gameplay of a game released in 2006 that I've played through countless of times while Im supposed to work on my thesis :D keep it up haha
by the way, when Barbas says "For a while I was a scamp making deals with Orcs" he refers to an npc vendor in Morrowind, a creeper living in Caldera, who happens to have 5k gold making him the 2nd richest trader of the game :D
Fun fact: 3:06 is a reference to Morrowind, where there's a house full of Orcs and a friendly scamp upstairs that will buy your loot for very reasonable prices
Lookin' smooth, Max!
Sadly, Todd Howard only voiced a test NPC named Alban Corinis
Coulda fooled me. Those last 2 male Daedras sound so much like him. I don't even know which of the 5 regular voice actors could have even voiced them.
He does voice clavicus
CAN'T...MOVE...BODY...FROZEN...MUST'VE BEEN.. THE HILARIOUS LETS PLAY
The Masque of DSP Gaming
A little bit of a lore lesson, if you are willing to read. There are actually way more Aedras than Daedras. The difference between them is that Aedras are those beings, that worked on creating Mundus, so the world the game is set in. Daedras are those, who didn't take part in the process of creation of the world. They literally translate to "not our ancestors", and Aedras are "our ancestors". The Divines however, are those Aedras who not only took part in creation of Mundus, but also decided to stay "inside" (not get back to Aeternus [Aedras realm]) and kind of power up the world. They are actually sometimes visnle on the sky as planets, although it is just how the mortals minds interpretate their presence. It is impossible for us to understand how actually nine infinite beings can fit in a limited space (Mundus) so theres is still place for anything else. Also another difference between Daedras and Aedras is, that Aedras can create. They can craft something from their own essence. Daedras can ONLY change. Good examples are daedric artifacts, such as Volendrung, so Malacaths hammer. It was originally a dwarvem hammer, which was transformed by the Daedric infulence. Daedras also can't die. Their essence isn't strictly "related" to anything made of "them" (becouse they can't do it). On the other hand, Aedras, so also the Divines, can create something form "nothing", so their essence is tied to some created objects. That means they can die. Best example is Lorkhan, or Shor, or Shezzar, same dude. He was an Aedra who started the whole plan to create Mundus. Akatosh, or Auri-El, killed him with his bow (for kind of tricking other Aedras into spending their essence to creata Mundus) and placed his heart in a place which today is know as The Red Mountain. It is said that Messer and Secunda, Nirns' moons, are Lorkhans body and head. Another example of a "dead god" is Yffre (can't really remember the spelling, sorry), an Aedra whose power is decribed as Nirns roots, whatever the fuck that means.
That was a long lesson, I hope maybe someone found at least some informations useful or interesting. You got any questions, asked ahead, although a lot of lore is still pretty much a mistery, and that's why it's so cool.
Sorry for a long comment, love you Max and Emmet, keep up the good work
If Barbas didn't want to go back to Clavicus in Skyrim, he wouldn't have asked the Dragonborn for help
"For a while I was a scamp, making deals with Orcs". In Morrowind, you can find a scamp called "Creeper" in a place called "Ghorak Manor". Ghorak Manor is filled with Orcs, and Creeper will sell you stuff and buy pretty much everything you have, at full value.
So I guess this means Barbas appears in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, making him one of the most often reoccurring characters in the Elders Scrolls.
Damn LaFave! Back at it again with the oblivion playthrough!
I would love to see you two do a Morrowind play through, only downside is that it is more story based and immersion focused, and doesn't have the whacky ragdolls or comedic moments of Oblivion.
Thanks for these amazing let's plays!
Also if you guys tackle Skyrim next, it's worth taking Mjoll as a follower. You can get her at level 13 and she's one of the most versatile followers in the game. She's proficient in heavy armour, good with two-handed, one-handed & shield, pretty accurate with a bow and can even dual-wield.
She's very tanky and also can't be killed. She also has a lot of radiant dialogue while out on the road which adds more to her character than other followers.
Barbas warns you because the sword has some of vile's essence , and if you give it to him he will return it to his relm, where the swords essence escapes and wreaks havoc there... which also affects tamriel but i don't remember how. Also you guys should really read about the creation of Nirn , it may change your perspective of the game so beware. Btw,awesome vid as always.
Found this on elder scrolls wiki:
Barbas's warning about giving Umbra to Clavicus Vile turned out to be true: forty years later the Umbra spirit attacked Clavicus and fled from his realm, powering the Infernal City of Umbriel which went on a path of destruction in Tamriel, namely destroying Gideon, Stormhold, and Lilmoth in Black Marsh, parts of Morrowind, and Cheydinhal in Cyrodiil.
Cant help but feel the Call of Cthulu vibe with Hackdirt.
If you follow up on the Jemane brothers quest you started and do the one afterwards too, I believe the reward is a unique looking ebony shield - the design is a gold tree (Chorrol's symbol), pretty sweet :D
found the oblivion playthrough a week ago, caught up now & sad i cant binge anymore of Mac's adventure :(
Wow, just realised that Barbas was previously the scamp called Creeper in Caldera in Morrowind. The one living in a house with lots of orcs that buy your swag for retail price!
Hackdirt reminds me of the movie the Deliverance 😂
Nice trim lad fucking love this!
Sassy The Sasquatch ah sassy what's goin on ya fuckin druggo
Just chilling hitting the volcano bong
Sassy The Sasquatch still coming to chooma island? It's gonna be fuckin skitz
I'd like to clear up the lore stuff at the start.
Lorkhan was indeed the one that went "Hey, let's make a realm!" but it was 14 Daedra that didn't partake in Mundus' creation. Meridia was one of the Et'Ada that was helping in Mundus' creation, but talked to the 14 Daedra and was kicked out by the Et'Ada because of that. This is what makes 15 Daedric Princes. After a while, Magnus is like "Why do I feel weaker than normal?" then realizes that working on Mundus is weakening him. So he's like "PEACE" and leaves the realm and leaves a massive as fuck hole in the sky (AKA, the sun). Many of the other spirits are like "What was his problem?" and continue working. After a little bit longer, more spirits are like "WHY ARE WE GETTING WEAKER?" and realize why Magnus left. Of
course, not all of them figure this out, but the ones that did gtfo'd Mundus also leaving holes in the sky (AKA, the stars).
The ones that stayed were the Ehlnofey (They stayed by choice, not because they literally couldn't). The ones that still had a decent amount of power were the Aedra (AKA, Divines), and the Et'Ada that were even weaker than the Aedra became men and mer or even laws of nature. Iirc, men sided with Lorkhan, while the mer sided with the Aedra.
A big war happens, men (called wandering Ehlnofey) are defeated by the Aedra and mer (called static Ehlnofey), after which the Aedra "killed" Lorkhan. But Lorkhan cheated by being literally tied to Mundus on such a level that the only way he could truly die was if Mundus itself was outright destroyed (This is where the Aldmeri Dominion seeking out to destroy the towers theory comes from). So, Auriel and the rest of the Aedra "disabled" Lorkhan by ripping his heart out of his body and cutting him in half (His body is literally the moons) and Auriel tied the heart of Lorkhan to an arrow and fired the arrow from his bow. Where the heart landed became red mountain.
After that, the Aedra became the planets in Mundus and the rest of the Ehlnofey either became more men/mer or became other laws of nature (Also called "Earth Bones").
Another Daedra was created by a powerful Ehlnofey being eaten by one of the princes. Then the 17th prince was created by one of the princes being cursed by the other 15 princes. So, until the Shivering Isles, there was 16 princes, just one was two sides of one coin...
Was hoping they'd keep the sword. Also I think you can get something pretty neat to occur if you sleep in the inn over night during the quest.
That’s life! You never know what is out there!
Also, the two moons are the remains of Lorkhans body. His heart lies in Red Mountain. Or it did until the events of Morrowind.
When I first played this game I thought Umbra was the coolest sword ever.
Nice haircut max! Lookin' slick!
I'd love to see you guys do the Umbacano quest soon!
The scamp making deals with orcs is a reference to Morrowind.
Excellent timing, my lunch is now.
Another awesome video!
Caught in the hunt is another really fun side quest. It's about a womans husband who owes a lot of money to a loan shark and you have to find him.
Barbas was the one who wanted to go back to Vile in the Skyrim quest, Vile threw him out for whatever reason.
Love the hackdirt quest, HP lovecraft anyday
I thought that in Skyrim, Barbas ASKS you to return him to Clavicus Vile, but Vile tells you he doesn't want him and tells you to kill him
Once you guys go into the cave to save the argonian girl, there’s a spot in the cave where you can hear the “deep ones” it’s these unique howls that you cant find anywhere else in the game, it’s really interesting
I think the point is Clavicus makes deals and he sends Barbas out to try and get you to renegade on his deals so he can corrupt you and claim your soul etc like all evil gods do. Barbas is the trickster, which makes people think Barbas is the real god and Clavicus vile is just a servant, a part of the ruse as it were. Who knows, Clavicus is a cool character in eldar scrolls.
But Barbas always gives you the better deal
Yeah thats the point, he makes you a better deal but its not the one you made. He's trying to get you to break the pact with the god so the god can do whatever he wants with your soul.
Well, two things, first of all, how do we know that breaking the deal results in him claiming your soul, and second of all, clavicus is the one who tries to make you break the deal in Skyrim. The deal was, give the axe get the masque, clavicus tried to get you to keep the axe.
I think thats more of an Bethesda inconsistency ;D
Im a sword and shield guy too usually on my first playthrough but my second characters i change it up.
That mask reminds me of Marcus from Borderlands "A fantastic day for capitalism!" XD
Great, as always.
Bambam, the Hound of Clavicle Wild.
Am I crazy or do some of these episodes have small audio distortions that the LaFaves may or may not have put in on purpose? Like 26:57 for example?
You can actually shield bash in Oblivion, but it's an automatic counterattack that you acquire when reaching expert block, you can't do it manually like in Skyrim.
Welcome back to beard town, population MAX