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The biggest irony of this story is that Anne Boleyn actually gave Henry the heir he so desperately wanted. Elizabeth went on to become the greatest monarch in the history of England...
One of the most overrated.
Yes, overrated. She persecuted her subjects bloodily, and her and her daddy's governments led to the impoverishment of a country that achieved comparable development to that before the Reformation only in the 18th century. Presenting her rule as a period of great success is only Protestant propaganda. For example - it is a pity that many defenders of the country against the Spanish armada did not receive any remuneration for their service.
@misuzu9254 what rubbish. Katherine had an excellent childhood. She was 17 when Elizabeth was born. Hardly a child at all by then.
No shite.
yup exactly...
Such a tragic irony of history. She gave him a daughter who turned out to be the greatest monarch in history. But she lost her head.
Incredible to think that Anne was committing “adultery” when the King had several mistresses during his marriage to Katherine... still blaming women
I suppose adultery is only a sin if a woman commits it. Hypocrits.
I don't think Anne was cheating on you.
But there is evidence that she was flirtatious through the history books and DNA Test can prove if she was so loyal.
i don't believe in witchcraft or incest but she was a woman and some cheat. and henry wanted a son so much everything is possible henry may have cheated on anne too.
Maybe it was justice for subverting Queen Catherine of Aragon and she got her 'karma'.
The birth of Henry's bastard son, Henry Fitzroy, supplied credence for Henry's belief that his "queens" were responsible for denying him a male heir. Even Jane Seymour, who finally provided Henry with a male heir, paid with her life as she died little more than week after from complications related to childbirth. The "curse" continued after Henry's death as Edward, his legitimate successor, died before reaching adulthood. His designated successor, a cousin, Lady Jane Grey, was never crowned as Henry's declared bastard, Catherine's daughter, Mary, had Lady Jane imprisoned and executed before seizing the throne for herself. There remained many disaffected Catholics, as Mary was raised Catholic by her mother Catherine of Aragon, who supported Mary's claim to the throne and her efforts to destroy Henry's Church of England. Through those efforts she acquired her moniker of "Bloody Mary." She, too, failed to provide an heir and, as some would say, by default Elizabeth, who was raised Anglican, was crowned Queen as the popularly recognized sole surviving direct heir of Henry VIII. And the rest, as they say, is history.
I believe that it was near the dawn of the 20th century before medical science discovered proof that the father actually determines the gender of his offspring That the mother merely nurtures the seed planted by the father, Something that Anne was unfortunately unable to do with her miscarried son. As the Spaniard so eloquently put it, "Anne miscarried her savior." How accurately those words proved to be true. Had she been able to carry that son to full term and he survived until adulthood, how differently would history have played out? Perhaps four less wives for Henry VIII and no eventual Queen Elizabeth I? Who's to say?
As it is, the famous, colorful, and brief Tudor Dynasty, begun by Henry Vii, came to an end with the death of his granddaughter, Elizabeth, whose successor, James, was the son of the mother that Elizabeth, as Queen, had put to death. And so began the Stuarts. The sanguine history of English monarchs is so much a bloody soap opera.
@@darianrose2195 you all sound like a bunch of bitter whiny feminazis. Times were different back then. Get over it.
Back then it was believed that a woman alone determined the sex of the child, not the man, when all along it is the man who determines it. How ironic. I believe Anne was cunning in her pursuit of the queen’s crown, but I don’t believe she did the things she was accused, convicted and ultimately beheaded for. This Henry was a dreadful beast of a man.
Among the male aristocrats of today, that still stands. My late aunt used to work for a former Harley St OB/GYN who tried to explain the XX and XY chromosomes to such a person (no names) after having 3 girls and the...errr...'gentleman' concerned had this doctor taken off the medical listings for daring to tell the truth.
Sadly, Anne Boleyn was also used by her father like he used his other two children so that he can gain favor and Power in the English Court. Thomas Boylen should have been the one to have his head cut off, and not Ann & George.
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 ur probably right.az it was women were there not for their dare I say(looks).they were breeding machines.their opinions were also checked.i guess they had to b submissive n quiet like a mouse.unlike today women's rights has far exceeded itself with pen n power tools.the tapestry of domestic life strangely enough is a history lesson.lol
He was a terrible womaniser.he had awhile with Anne's sister Mary and other illegitimate kids.I think he had his eye on Jane Seymour and needed an excuse to get Ann out t the way.lady Rockford did a lot of stirring for Anne aswell
I agree...however since Anne knew how Katherine had and was being treated, I cannot help but wonder why she did not feel a bit of fear to become involved with him and go against the church which back then was a major crime. After Henry's accident, surely she could tell his personality changed.
It is actually the male who determines the sex of a child a woman is carrying
Carol Langley nobody can determine the sex of a child.
@@envyallison926 please tell me your joking
Yes the man determine the sex never the woman
Right. The male gamete can carry either a Y (male) or an X (female) chromosome. The female gamete can carry only an X chromosome. Too bad that wasn’t known back in the 16th century!
Envy Allison The sperm carries the information that determines the sex of the child. That is what Carol Langley meant.
Why do people think he loved her, Henry couldn’t love anyone but himself. Cruel psychopath and a murderer too. I refuse to believe he was capable of love.
littlejay 💯 percent. A classic malignant narcissist.
HE REMINDS ME OF MM. HARRY BETTER BE ALERT N WATCHFUL FOR HIS LIFE.
I think you are probably right. This presenter for some reason is putting a peculiar spin on this story, when history disagrees with her. Regardless of this presenter, it is well established that Henry had his eye on Jane Seymour for some time,
@@maryannetzel8559 Sociopaths are the same throughout history.
Maryann Etzel What has the Duchess of Sussex ever done to warrant such a ridiculous belief.
Poor Catherine of Aragon. If he chose to cast her off, he could still have treated her with kindness and left her dignity as intact as possible. It just seems cruel to have prevented her seeing her daughter and denying her a state funeral. She had been Queen of England and was a royal princess by birth. She deserved better.
Agreed 1000%.
I agree with you 1 million percent
This may have exacerbated all the murderous hatred in Catherine's daughter, Mary l who killed as many Protestants as possible, The Protestant Anne Boleyn was, whom Henry left her mother for.
@@freyamckenzie5583 That hatred was made by Henry's treatment of her mother and herself.
Yes, if Henry had only treated Catherine and Mary better then perhaps Queen Mary wouldn't have had so many people burned at the stake. Her father had also refused to allow her to marry and so she missed out on motherhood which she desperately
Anne didn’t give Henry a male heir. Then she started having miscarriages. Henry had her excited. I feel badly for Henry’s first wife. She was loyal. And betrayed by a man she loved.
executed not excited
@wings of a butterfly Were you there? You are the one that never learned to shut your mouth, better start now, your stupidity is showing
It bears repeating that sex is determined by sperm, which is the male contribution to conception. All eggs are X chromosome. Anne gave birth to a healthy baby girl who went on to rule England for 40 years. A woman can't inherently choose the sex of her child. Had Anne been able to "give" Henry a son, she would have, thus securing her title. Considering the quality of prenatal & postnatal care, not to mention the often brutal medical reality of labor and childbirth in olden times, it's remarkable that women and children survived and flourished as well as they did. As it was, infant mortality was very high and many women died from complications giving birth. One can only imagine the stress both Catherine and Anne were under to "produce a male heir; there was only so much they had control over.
@Age Of Plankton y’all are getting it wrong HENRY DIDNT PRODUCE A MALE HEIR and his own incompetence made him execute women such a narcissistic fuckboy
@Age Of Plankton Plus, Ma Donna was already a monarch and, badass enough to make the Vatican declare a whole country non religionous because Henry tried to divorce her.
Henry executed Anne Boleyn so he can marry Jane Seymour...simple as that
Yes! According to the ambassador to Charles V he said that Jane Seymour was not pretty and that she was nowhere near as intelligent as Catherine of Aragon or Anne Boleyn. He didn't think she was a virgin at all and she was pretty boring. Henry just saw Jane as a baby maker and that was it regardless of him saying he loved her more than anybody else. If he loved her so much he would have told the doctor to choose her life over that of the baby because he didn't know she was going to have a boy.
Luckily Jane did have a boy and lived through the C-section but died from a fever 12 Days Later. I think Henry felt guilty and after being married for a year and 5 months he hadn't had time to get sick of her yet but he had threatened her a couple times because she wanted Catholic Abbey's restored.
I'm pretty sure after he threatened her twice and told her to remember an and to stay out of his business & business affairs, Jane was likely certain that Henry, along with most people at court, had everything to do with Anne boleyn's execution.
Yup
He wanted a son .
I think he wasn't all that interested in women, despite having had so many sexual dalliances and wives, though he seems to have genuinely loved some eg the attractive flirty Anne Boleyn who was his social match ie good looking like he was in youth, fond of social gaiety etc. And, initially, he seemed like a man who tried to be a good loyal husband and father. But what he really desperately wanted was a son and when no son materialised from all these women he had, he just turned into a very ugly, nasty pissed off male. I'd say all his prolific male sexual activity was motivated by just one obseesive thought. Produce a son, by any means possible, with any woman willing to try, love and attraction only being of secondary importance ie she only had to be attractive enough to make sex possible so as to produce this illusory son he so desperately craved. That was his real sexual objective, not having all the women he had, who were foolish enough to believe life would be great as the king's latest mistress, concubine, official wife etc. They were all sucked in by his masculine charm and looks and his power and status. It never occurred to any of them that such power etc could turn very lethal and ugly if they didn't deliver what, as powerful male, he expected. Babies. Which the wives knew they had to produce for him and were agreeable to trying to do. But not just any babies. He wanted sons. Daughters would never be good enough for him. Though Queen Elizabeth 1 proved him wrong, as the powerful smart, ruthless monarch she became, whilst still retaining her feminine image, despite being underestimated, kicked around, even doing a stint in jail and managing to be released just before her execution was scheduled. I think that would take a fair bit of female grit and courage, determination etc to survive and then carry on running the Empire, as she did, having to keep all her courtiers in line, as some were only obviously hanging around her, waiting for the opportunity for her to fall, so they could grab the crown for themselves. But, in a symbolic gesture, she refused to fall, even when very ill and close to death. She just stood upright, to the very end. To make her point about who's queen as long as she still is alive and who's in charge around here. Her, not the ones trying to snatch her crown off her. I don't know how she could have been such a strong woman, though she looked so thin, pale, frail and ultra feminine. She was a very learned, intelligent woman and had the good sense to not marry and breed because she obviously knew what was in store if a woman tried to be a greatcareerwoman ie run the country, which she had to do and try to be a wife and breeder as well. Too much "home/work" conflict and imbalance to do either well and she was a perfectionist, just looking at her appearance and her great intellectual skills, largely self taught, in the long periods she had to spend completely alone. And then there was her half sister, Mary Queen of Scots. Sometimes "sisters" can be a problem and, much as one may love one's kin and gender, they need to be appropriately dealt with. If a queen is to rule, a gal must do what a gal must do. Eliminate the obstacles to her getting the job done as it needs to be done. Set aside personal feelings and emotional ties etc and deal with the problems that too much closeneness can cause for people in positions of power and authority eg you could be betrayed by the very ones you cared about too much and tried to benefit. There is a need to be utterly ruthless, sometimes, simply to retain power and control. There is no other way, human nature being what it is. I would not like to be in a situation, like her, being forced to make such painful decisions, though...
Annemarie May Mary Queen of Scots was her cousin not her sister. She has a sister name Mary. But the queen of Scots was her cousin
Who is the actor that plays Anne Boleyn?. She perfectly embodies the character.
Looks like Emma Connell is the actress. Had to look it up as I also enjoyed her portrayal. And Jack Hawkins is Henry, if you wanted that info. It popped up next to hers.
@@IAmNotNicolex Thankyou so much.
she is too pretty for this role i think
@@user-uo3tm1dv5i her lips are too full, but for the other part she resembles are a lot in the painting she is holding a rose. It is said to be the most accurate and hangs in her house Hever castle
@@IAmNotNicolex if the real Henry looked like the actor did (before he got morbidly obese) i understand that so many people fell had a crush on him.
A low self esteem man is capable of hurting everyone close to him.
Same could be said for anyone really
He only blames her. He forgot that they made that baby girl together.
Soeasytoo. Forget
Men thought women determined sex of a child. Simple, but wrong.
Back then it was believed that a woman alone determined the sex of the child, not the man, when all along it is the man who determines it. How ironic.
@@SV-yj6ef crazy ironic. and the fact that he probably wasted some sperm that could've been male on all his sex escapades with numerous other women that were not his wife.
@@SV-yj6ef god it angers me
Ladies beware! The way he treats his "exes" is the way he treats with you.
She gave birth to a girl. The greatest monarch England has ever had.
And he murdered the Woman who bore her, He murdered The true Queen Mother. The pardox of it all, it actually hurts. I have so much sympathy for Ann, but truthfully.... I feel such sorrow for everyone of his wives. All they got was death, exile, pain, humiliation, sorrow, constant anxiety, no freedom, courtiers constantly plotting & lieing. His wives, bore the true torment of King Henry, the mad King.
@@AshLoRo I wholly agree!
Much agreed 🤝 🇬🇧
@@AshLoRo absolutely agree... There are many women I feel sorry for Mary Queen of Scots... Not bloody Mary she is different to Elizabeth's cousin... Each one of Henry's wives and even the mistresses themselves such deciet and pain beyond what we can imagine both ways and such the ones he divorced and the one who survived would have seen the pain he caused to each of the wives... Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded and survived. Ann was the first wife he essentially killed which I think I so so sad his first divorce was the only the beginning of something so sad... Such unfairness.
@@AshLoRo
The public said that she used witchcraft to make Henry love him. Only if they knew 😭✌🏻
Katherine of Aragon's story was indeed tragic in the way it began and ended. Her exalted life in Spain growing up was in stark contrast to her life in England, where she came to know want, privation, and great uncertainty. Neither her royal bloodline nor her ability as a capable leader in Henry's absence helped her in the least when the chips were down. So sad.
Her devout Catholicism did not help her either. I wonder how people can actually still believe that nonsense about some sky-guy
Antonia Fraser's book on the wives of Henry VIII drives it home even worse: Katherine had been raised to believe that she could be a queen co-ruler like her mother, Isabella. She spent 8 years stuck in England as a pawn between Henry VII and her father Ferdinand. And then, after 20 years of marriage, she was repudiated for something that biologically, wasn't her fault.
Short, simple answer: he got bored with her.
Jackson Rushing Not really what happened...
@@cadencehorchner7039 Nah, it kind of is. He thought she could give him a son, and when she couldn't, he tossed her aside. Once they slept together, his passion for her slowly died. I am aware of Henry's ruling style, though--appointing people who had nothing to high positions so they could do all the ruling while he goofed off, and then disposing of them once they got too uppity. Anne was one such person (okay, she didn't come from nothing, but she still didn't have any powerful friends to protect her from him), which, in addition to her failure to bear him a son, made it easier for him to decide to get rid of her.
@@pyromania1018 Alright, I completely understand now. Thank you for being so respectful I apologize if I came across as rude.
@@cadencehorchner7039 You didn't. In hindsight, I probably should have elaborated, but I personally think the reason wasn't all that complex... unless what I just said counts as complex.
@@pyromania1018 nah, you're ok. I'm just not the smartest person in the world 😂
So lemme get this straight
1. Henry and everybody else thought it was the woman's fault that the children are born female
2. When Anne does get a boy, and loses it due to the stress of Henry's grievous life-threatening accident, it's still her fault for miscarrying because it must be she doesn't have the backing of god.
Ok ok so the point really is: society hates women
@Olivia Fox well, your not wrong but you are right at the same time Anne Boyeln, gave 20 years of her life to Henry yet though she gave birth to a popular, Monarch to ever live Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth never grew up with Anne because she died. & Mary, Elizabeth's older sister was supposed to be a Queen if her youngest brother died.
No society does not hate women. This was 500 yrs ago. Stop whining and playing the "poor woman" victim card.
@@trawlins396 doesn't change the fact that 500 years ago, women were invalidated purely on the basis of their sex and seen as inferior - I count my lucky stars I was born in an era where my worth wasn't determined by what gender I was born as, and I'm grateful to these strong, resilient women in history who paved the way for me through their grace a little rebellions
@@liageorge9411 exactly.you said it. FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO. It's time to turn the page already. Society in 2020 does not "hate" women. That's laughable.
@@liageorge9411 and there were a LOT of women back then who had powerful roles.
It is absolutely absurd of the presenter to suggest that Henry had no interest in Jane Seymour when he married her eleven days after Anne's execution.
Shea just saying what dirwctoe wants her to sya
he was already not in the good health so he was worried time is running out.....
If he loved her he wouldn't have had her executed.
Love? There's love and lust. He lusted her but he was not empathic to love anyone but himself. Maybe they were both the victims of plots but personally I think he was a cold hearted psychopath. Poor Anne, God have Mercy.
He loved himself much more than any other human being.
Henry cared for more for himself and his reputation and ego than he ever cared for anyone else.. he was vain and SELFISH. Henry like to novelty and if he didn't get what he wanted from one person he would go to someone else. He did the same thing with in his Council as he did with his wives. When Cardinal Wolsey was not able to get him divorce or annulment, he stripped the Cardinal of all his money and property, and sent him away after he had served the king for 20 years or more. I think the Cardinal committed suicide and Henry didn't kill him because he was a Catholic priest. It was taboo to do that even though he was killing other Catholics in the street by the thousands and calling them traitors once he separated from the church of England. Henry did away with Cardinal Wolsey before he started the Church of England and that's probably the only thing that saved him from the scaffold. It was Henry's fault that the Cardinals could not get him an annulment because the Vatican had copies of the letters Henry had written to Ann. Henry could never accept the fact that he did anything wrong because in his eyes he was perfect because he was King and anointed by God. Anne Boleyn was the one that gave him a book that made his head grow even bigger and inevitably led to her being cast aside and beheaded. She gave him this book that someone had written about monarchs being the Supreme head of their land which included politics and religion. That's where Henry got the great idea to separate from the Catholic church and began his own church in England, and that inevitably led to Ann's downfall. Sad!
Charles Brandon was the only one close to the king who survived! He and the King has grown up together and been best friends because their fathers were close friends. Henry was jovial and considered a virtuous King for about 20 years. He was also injured during a joust when he was married to Catherine of Aragon and he hit his head and was unconscious for a couple days then. That was right before he got obsessed with Ann. He knew an but he didn't become obsessed with her until probably 5 years or so after knowing her. Ann wasn't interested in him at all, and it took her a long time to have feelings for him. Even then she wasn't about to give herself up and be his mistress. contrary to what most people thought at the time, Ann Boelyn was not a seductress.
Henry was getting infatuated with Jane Seymour after Ann had a miscarriage in about 4 months and lost their son. No surprise there because he considered her just like he had Cardinal Wolsey and she couldn't deliver what she promised...
@@cristinamrp948 the only person that escaped his wrath was Charles Brandon and Charles even married the king sister in secret and still survived. Why? Charles married Mary around 1518 before Henry went completely nuts. Princess Mary had been Queen consort in France but her husband died a couple of months after their marriage. Charles Brandon went to retrieve her from France and bring her back to England and they snuck off and got married.😂😂😂 Charles knew Henry would be furious with him despite the fact he was Henry's best friend and his team-mate in sports in addition to fighting so many wars with Henry. Charles live because Charles new Henry like the back of his hand and was able to adapt to the king's changes in temperament and mental status over time which was something that most people couldn't do. Henry forgave Charles after he finally came back to court as a humble servant on the council and beg to the king for his forgiveness, etc.. Charles knew he had wounded the Kings vanity and had Charles done that 15 years later, I don't know if he would have lived...doubtful. Charles and Henry matured and Charles was also always the king's confidant. Henry knew that Charles Brandon had good morals and that he was a good man. Henry knew Charles was loyal to him and would do whatever the king asked of him, ;& also knew that Charles would never take unfair advantage of anyone; not even a foe
Not many.died at all, actually! He also had a reign which saved more than the previous Catholic ones.. the world you live in now actually started cause of protestant rule.. only about 3 of the wives died .. only two were executed cause of treason. So yeah, learn your real history !
Katherine of Aragon one of the most wronged people in history.... wonder what the current Katherine may think?
What current Katherine? There is none. You stupid cow ... lol names means fuck all. You're slow as
kaboom That’s just rude.
@@cplmpcocptcl6306 thank you
@Brian Eduardo / Would you please elaborate on who the “current Katherine” is? Thank you 😊
Brian Eduardo You are just another clown trying to get attention by making a foolish comment. Feel that I am wasting my time even commenting on your drivel Rob
So I learned that Anne Boleyn's charges roasted Henry so hard he had to execute her.
"I wouldn't be such a bitch, if you could get it up."
@@readingrainbowbutterfliesi9872 uh oh! here we go is that what you said?
@@sophiarieke118 and now he's going off with "off with her head!" 𝓝𝓸!
@@idkmansoundskindagay2709 yeah I'm pretty sure he means it!
Although Anne was hateful and cruel to some people. I have always admired her intelligence. She was the only woman who could get the king to divorce Catherine AND destroy the Catholic name. She was young and brave and she realised she was going to fast and tripped. Her greatest revenge to Henry was Elizabeth. One of the most famous queens in England.
If Anne Boleyn was born in 1501, she would have been born during the year of The Rooster, as is Kate and Meghan however sometimes it's stated she was born in 1507 (The Rabbit.... haha, had she lived, she might have had many more children).
Henry viii was described by Charles Dickens as a spot off blood and grease on the pages of British history,I think that’s pretty accurate.
Why is there no mention of Thomas Cromwell, King Henry's chief minister and right-hand man, who was one of the biggest players in this whole drama? Almost every historian agrees that Cromwell was responsible for plotting Anne's downfall. In a nutshell, Anne and Cromwell had a falling out and Cromwell was well aware that Anne had more influence over King Henry than he had. Not to mention that almost all the men implicated were political opponents of Cromwell.
Cromwell was a traitor & a secret Lutheran. Had the king known he would have had Cromwell burned. Years later when it was discovered that he was a traitor and had been taking money and gold from the Abbeys and thereby basically stealing from the King, the council had him convicted and he was hacked in the process of being beheaded. That executioner chopped him in the back several times before he was actually beheaded.
As well, Archbishop Cranmer. No mention.
Cromwell was threatened by Anne because she would have the King kill her enemies. Cromwell had to have her killed before she could have him killed.
I think it was the spanish ambassador who started the rumor about Ann.....
It's actually strange that the woman who gave Henry over 20 years of love birthed a girl who would be labeled 'Bloody Mary' and the daughter who Anne Boleyn birthed within 3 years would be one of the greatest Queens in British history.
She probably only heard bitterness from her mother and was out for revenge rather than thinking with a clearer head
I'm not surprised Mary was that way. She would have had serious mental health issues after what she'd been through. I's probably why she became so attached to her husband and he left her.
The Princess Mary was isolated at a very early age and grew up not knowing her father and separated from her mother. She was constantly changing status from heir to illegitimate back to heir...favored and beloved to ignored, isolated, and exiled. Then back to court darling. The emotional whiplash must have been severe. She was deprived of every natural relationship to her family. Because of her time and place, she attributed religious significance to all of these sufferings, and it should not surprise anyone that she was unstable in the ways that she was. She, herself, was anxious to the point of psychological disorder over producing an heir. Again...none of it passed without Mary attaching religious weight to everything.
@@amynix2632 Mary did have a relationship with her mother early on as Catherine personally tutored Mary in Latin and Spanish, but when Mary was granted her own household that likely lessened the contact between mother and daughter. Then when Henry married Anne he forbid them from communicating with each other, though Mary and Catherine still communicated secretly
That’s cause Mary had hundreds of Protestant Christians executed because they weren’t catholic
When she knelt on Katherin's grave.. my heart ached... what a poor woman she was 💔💔💔
Yess! I felt so bad for her and none of it was her fault but she just wasn't a baby maker and some women aren"t. Catherine could have had something like polycystic ovarian disease because that causes repeated miscarriages and back then they didn't know what it was. And besides Henry was off fighting Wars for the first 15 years of their marriage and wasn't focused on having errors until he was getting closer to 40. Katherine was 5 years older than him and by the time he woke up and realized he'd wasted his younger years fighting Wars he was 38 years old and Catherine was 43 and too old to have babies. Just because she may have still been menstrating didn't mean that she was fertile. By then she would have been going through perimenopause most likely.
I admire Catherine of Aragon because she always remained humble. Despite being angry and heartbroken she wasn't filled with hatred like her daughter, Mary Tudor. Mary was a spoiled brat and it ripped her to shreds when her father called her a bastard!! She was about 15 years old when her dad stripped her princess title from her and yeah it was a big deal but not enough to cause one to be so bitter for life. I think her bitterness was what resulted in her getting cancer later on, in addition to the fact that she didn't have children when she was younger. Henry could have married her but it was hard to get anyone to marry her because she really wasn't a princess anymore. Mary Tudor was stripped in between rolls between 1432 & 1545. Henry restored Mary and Elizabeth right to succession but by then Mary was already 37/38. No one would have married her during the years despite she was a daughter of King Henry because she was labeled a bastard all of those years. Rather than blaming Ann, she should have blamed her father for being so selfish. Elizabeth was almost 3 when she lost her princess title in too young to understand but she didn't care much about being Queen of England. Mary hungered for it and that's why she later became known as Bloody Mary. If Henry were in his right mind, he never would have put Mary Tudor in the line of succession because she was a Catholic and would have caused an uproar in the country aftee he had already established the Church of England... I don't think that it ever occurred to Henry that Edward would have died young and that was foolish for him to think such a thing because it was common for men to Die Young then. Henry's own brother died young so he should have known better!
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 It's been suggested that Catherine died of cancer that had spread to her heart; Mary, her daughter, almost certainly had it. In my opinion, the whole tale of Henry's life and the impact on his children is a tragedy of the psychology of the time. His sole surviving son was left to die of tuberculosis while the Royal coffers were plundered; Mary was desperate to marry and produce an heir; and Elizabeth refused to marry after seeing her stepmothers, half-sister and the wife of the man she loved all be cast aside by their husbands.
She had Catherine of Aragon housed in very poor conditions, which caused her demise.
Three days from conviction to execution? Wow, they didn't mess around back then, did they? Today a person could sit on death row in America for 10-15 years and sometimes longer.
Nope & even the king himself would threaten people on the jury and make sure that what he wanted was the verdict rendered! They didn't dare go against what he wanted or they risk being killed.
@Montre' Louise Bohon-Harris Thank you! So I guess once a person had been charged with treason and especially by the King, a trial was just a formality.
Strange I wondered why nobody help her escape.Couldn't she have gone to Spain for protection or anywhere Germany.Strange nobody attempt to arrange her rescue.
@@angelabell8725 if they were going to help anyone escaping to Germany or Spain, it would be Catherine of Aragon and Mary. After all, they were aunt and cousin of the Holy Emperor and King of Spain...
That's what people don't understand now the sovereignty is the authority and that's why Brexit is so important.
I believe he grew tired of her...no heir, people did not like her... religious problems because he was with her...and he did have a roving eye at court eyeing other women. Anne knew she was losing favor in his eyes already. He had already eyed another to take her place, in fact minutes after Anne was beheaded, Henry and his men rode off to another woman he was interested in. One way or another, Anne had to go. Sad story in a way....yet most of history seems to be.
Yes he rode off to see Jane Seymour
At least his children were able to live. Unlike the Romanovs, for example.
This girl has beautiful hair
Agreed
Henry was a monster.
I couldn’t agree more
What an animal
@@tridabalira5992 no, animals are way better
I love these movies. this is so interesting, it’s insane how even women of high power were just treated like chattle.. he was very sexist. And a murderer but all the kings then were, weren’t they?
Insane? Consider the times. The Bible's teachings and consequently the Church considered women as the servant of man and the reason for their creation. In royal circles the arranged marriages of women were bargaining chips to forge alliances and prevent wars between kingdoms and nations. Henry VIII's attitude toward women was widely shared all over Europe. In that he was hardly unique. Of Henry's six wives, only two were executed. Two were divorced or annulled, one died, and one survived him. There was no outcry, for he was the King of all his subjects. His third wife, Jane Seymour, provided Henry with his coveted male heir which his first two wives failed to deliver. Unfortunately she died shortly after from complications from childbirth. Had she lived, perhaps there would've been no more wives for Henry and history would've played out differently. Who's to say otherwise?
Henry's Granny Margaret Beaufort, his mother Princess Elizabeth of York were formidable as was Anne and her daughter Elizabeth I.
The fact that Elizabeth reigned for 45 years and was the most powerful queen in history and king Edward died 6 years after his reign, well, that speaks volumes! Along with many other things such as king Henry marrying straight after her death!
Anne had a panchayat for cruelty too. She danced at the death of Catherine of Aragon and councilled the King to execute the Lady Mary.
Rumors..
@@percyweasley9301 truth because many sources say the same
@@ABC-ho5jo actually many historians have debunked those rumours
Henry VIII was a psychopath! He used one wife after another.
Women still get brutalised and murdered today
Physically speaking, I picture Henry and especially Anne looking just like this. Best interpretation I've seen so far! One of my favorite hosts and historians too, not to mention! ☺
This seems like a little dose of karma to me. Anne and Henry treated Catherine like trash. What goes around comes around. I am definitely not excusing Annes execution, but I feel so bad for Catherine.
Anne and her family wanted power, even if Anne was an adulterer.
This is what power hungry men do at the peril of anyone who stands against them.
History repeats in the current day.
Wonderful video. Thank you 😊
Power hungry women do it too.
After the death of Jane Seymour. No one want to marry the King since everyone knows that He neglected Katherine, executed Anne and let Jane died after a precious son was born. Duchess of Milan, a Danish princess (niece of Katherine) rejected the offer. Instead a German Anne of Cleeves was to marry the dismayed King after he paid handsomely for a dowry. Thanks to Hans Holbein's depiction of Anne. Lolz
If not for that, Elizabeth the queen first never would have existed, so leave her dad alone.. his rule created her reign and protestant rule aka lead to the modern/ western revolution, so grow up!
And Anne of Cleves wasn't disappointed when she saw Henry?!
He too was portrayed by Holbein as handsome and flawless, but in fact, he was not. Put yourself in her shoes, when she saw a fat-arse waddling towards her, with a red face and diseased leg!
She was lucky to have Mary, Elizabeth and Edward love and respect her and to be declared "The King's Sister" after her divorce from Henry. She kept her head, money and dignity.
kaboom copy and paste is that all you do ? Come up with a better argument
@@takohamoolsen2432 Not to mention that Anne of Cleves was a member of a Protestant royal family. Henry needed Protestant allies in the continent, so he wasn't about to mistreat Anne without a really good excuse -which he hadn't.
“She probably wrote this some time before her execution.”
Would be weird if she wrote it after.
Maybe she meant Anne probably wrote it shortly or days before her execution.
Krystal K ....Ha ha...I thought the same thing...but, yeah, she said "some time" not "sometime".
The relationship of Henry and Anne was always about power. Henry wanted the male son and Anne wanted power by marrying the king and supposedly producing a son. To marry someone who can ultimately cause your death sentence is unwise. Anne's so called infidelity was hatched by Henry's advisors.
I wonder why the good Dr Lipscomb handles old books and manuscripts with apparently ungloved hands
rod alston i also saw that. It's highly irregular, unless it was a copy for the purpose of the show.
Clean hands are actually better for the books than gloves bc gloves carry more dirt than clean hands - you just need gloves if the book is a health hazard (eg arsenic) or it's with photographs or metals.
@@VeraVegetarier I think that the need for gloves depends on the book's makeup. Vellum is handled differently than paper. Gloves rip paper, so clean hands are better.
Common to wonder about this, but it really depends on what it is that’s being handled. There are situations where gloves would be better, and other times simply clean hands.
I said the same thing, oils make paper age!
I love Suzannah Lipscomb's delivery and professionalism in her documentaries. Great historian and journalist.
What a monster! It would have been better for so many if he had not survived that fall from his horse.
It would have been a blessing if he would have died. He was no better then Hitler.
It would have thrown the country into chaos and another, probably worse, dynastic war than the Wars of the Roses. You'd have some in the country supporting Elizabeth as the next queen and some supporting Mary instead. It's a damn good thing he did survive.
And Elizabeth choose not to marry so the Tudor dynasty buried with her
Yes, but they were better things to come because Mary Queen of Scots had the claim to the English Throne after Elizabeth. Elizabeth's Council had Mary Queen of Scots executed because Elizabeth didn't want blood on her hands. Elizabeth was Mary's son's godmother and Mary Queen of Scots often called Elizabeth sister because they were cousins. Elizabeth did the right thing by naming James VI of Scotland her heir because his mother, Mary Queen of Scots, would have been next in line after her; and she was executed when James was about 20. By Elizabeth not having an heir to the throne, James VI of Scotland became James I of England. That inevitably joined Scotland and England together with Ireland and that's when Great Britain was formed. It was wise because that meant there was going to be no more war and bloodshed between England and Scotland, as there had been for centuries. Elizabeth did wonderful things like build this huge navy for England. It was something her dad Vision but he didn't ever work on. Elizabeth made it huge and James ruled Great Britain and that's where the King James Bible came from.
Even if she married it wouldn’t have continued cause she was a woman
There's a certain karmic justice in that!
She was terrified of the dangers of child birth (and I don't blame her). Probably the only legitimate reason not to have a female monarch in the days before modern medicine is the high mortality rate during child birth.
Now we have the Windsor dynasty
Human behavior says Henry wanted to marry Jane and Ann was in the way.
They said that leg of his was so incredibly foul, it became very difficult to be in the same room with the king. I suppose that it's fitting that he who killed and tortured and caused suffering to so many suffered mightily himself.
Why doesn’t anyone wear gloves while holding/ touching historical objects? Especially paper since the oils from hands may damage it
Some standards have changed. If you wash your hands thoroughly before touching the documents and objects to remove the natural oil of your skin touching it with bare hands can be better than touching them with gloves - the fabric can create traction.
i was thinking may be its not originals.....originals to precious even to be taken out of the specially designed box....
I have a very good book about Henry's childhood which shows that he had character flaws all along. His father didn't trust him and never groomed him for kingship, despite he being the only spare heir. And knowing the mortality rate in those days there was no guarantee that the young frail Arthur would ever become king. But their father just didn't like Henry and possibly with good reason. When he became king the first thing Henry did was to have his fathers former ministers Empson and Dudley executed, as a move to gain popularity with the people, who hared Empson and Dudley, who had just been carrying out the kings orders re taxation. He wasn't quite the affable young king he appeared to be.......
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@kshiftkometh He never had syphilis. That is a myth. He would have had huge gaping ulcers on his face and the smell would be so bad you could smell it from the next room. He was also never treated with mercury, the only available treatment then.
@kshiftkometh Modern doctors have examined his meticulously kept medical records and he was never treated with mercury, which in itself stunk to hell. They believe he was diabetic and had osteomyelitis in his ulcerated leg - that is an infection of the bone.
What book is that?
@@Daniela-pz9ze "The Making of Henry Vlll" by Louise Bruce.
I think that it is a great pity that Dr. Lipscomb did not follow the opinions of two very reputable biographers, Alison Weir and Antonia Fraser, in assessing Henry's Narcissistic personality as a factor in his involvement in Anne's downfall, and also her rivalry with Thomas Cromwell.
She did.
Henry was King. He alone abandoned his wife Catherine and only child Mary. If the goal was to ensure a healthy male heir; it might have been prudent to stop sleeping around and curb all the hunting and jousting until this had been accomplished.
Well stated, Diane. He had so much power, that he could bend every rule to suit his desire, even to his own detriment, and every one else's. Poor Anne, she didn't stand a chance.
@kshiftkometh We don't know who gave him it. There were so many women he slept with, and we'll never know who it originally came from.
Not true
@Christy Axel Norman Yes, I am familiar with the history of the Tudors. Arthur is believed to have contracted tuberculosis, not so much a chill. I believe Henry might have entertained the notion that Leviticus visited him with a dose of Karma, but I think he used it more as an excuse to dump his long suffering, faithful first wife. There is a medical notion that Anne Boleyn miscarried twice after her first child due to an rh factor disorder. In any event, infant mortality was high in those days and girls had a slightly higher survival rate. Peace from Northern Cali.
The brutality of the executions and beheadings are so vicious of a so called civilized society.
It still happens in other places too today, just saying
The common mode of execution was far more cruel than beheading, which was considered a merciful, dignified and humane way to be executed. Far better than being burned to death, or hanged, drawn and quartered. But loss of life was common, and lives were cheap in that day and time.
Thousands of people around the world get murdered massacred every year apparently Henry’s fall was the reason he’s personality changed
I wouldn’t mind betting there’s more brutality today
I’ve visited Catherine’s grave a lot. It’s very sad.
Knowing he as a man, was the one to blame for failing to produce a son. But once again the women where the ones to be blamed and killed.🧐
@HappyandAtheist Don't hate. They're just speaking FACTS😌
@HappyandAtheist o look, a misogynist! Are you so ignorant of history? Men, religions and politics (same thing as religion - controlling the masses) have always put women down as second-class and not as important, and convenient to put the blame on when men wanted a scape-goat.
Back then, they didn't know that
@HappyandAtheist its a fact our eggs are X and sperm is either X or Y. Its his Y sperm they just couldn't make the swim. Since women were the ones to pop the babies out they assumed we had full control over gender.
It was pure luck
They didn't mention that after Henry married Jane Seymore, she died from her first childbirth, giving Henry the son. That son died a young boy around the age of 15. Lots of women died trying to give Henry a son.
Did not think Harry capable of producing son,are we Sure his wife had Henrys son???!!!!!?
Perfect documentary! Oh, I loved it. Those actors scenes are brilliant!
It is well done, makes me feel I'm there.
You're right about the frontal lobe, but being unconscious for two hours was because the OCCIPITAL lobe was hurt. Perhaps the frontal lobe was hurt as a reaction to the blow in the back of his head
Excellent documentary. Thanks
@Rocio Aguilera - A contrecoup injury, no doubt.
If Henry could do what he did to those poor Holy Men, who just a few short years ago he believed in, it should have been a great big heads up to EVERYONE he ever came in contact with thereafter. Sadly, if he set his sights on you as a love interest, you couldn't deny him or at least without issue. My Family came to England during the Potato Famine, but prior to that Henry the 8th had his henchmen fight My Family and take their land and Castles because they were becoming to powerful. Our Family name was also altered. Many from Ireland suffered the same fate, as I'm sure other countries. My Father never once called us English.. lol, as My Granny use to say, " Just because a cat has her kittens in a barn, doesn't make them a horses" God bless Everyone
Why do we humans allow such evil people to become leaders?
Nothing’s changed still do it today
King henry viii was a good king at first :(
Excellent! Thank you.
there are some things in this doc:
1.There is evidence that Anne never entered the tower through "Traitors' gate".
2.There is very little evidence that Henry's fall jousting aged 44 caused brain damage and a major shift in personality.
It is not like after the fall he became a maniac tyrant. He was already acting cruel. For example in previous years he had already tossed a devoted wife of twenty years, treated his heir Mary like crap, spilt from the Catholic church because Clement wouldn't yield, killed his father figure Sir Thomas...
The source given that the king was "unconscious for two hours" (which obviously is a very serious injury) comes from an ambassador that wasn't even present or even in the country; stating in his letter "the king did not speak for two hours". He had heard basically rumours passing on second or third hand information to the Empress. More contemporary sources stated "it was lucky the king had not been killed.... He sustained no injury", "the king took a fall from his horse, but he had no hurt".
Perhaps the fall did wake Henry up to his own mortality and reinforced the thought that he must take action to produce a male heir. Therefore not waste any more time with a woman with accusations against her. But there isn't much corroboration that this fall had shifted his personality.
ref: Please look to; Claire Ridgeway for in-depth analysis of the Tudors ;The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society
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Anyone else feeling their own neck, with those swift sword like sound effects? I do feel for Katherine, although I feel for Anne because she didn't choose Henry, he was a predator, and she was his prey.
true!!
I completely agree!
They both were victims of a sick man. Anne definitely wasn’t an angel, but no one deserves what happened to her
Wonderful documentary
She certainly did not know her husband's character a dreadful tyrant
If not for that, Elizabeth the queen first never would have existed, so leave her dad alone.. his rule created her reign and protestant rule aka lead to the modern/ western revolution, so grow up!
@@doxasophosmoros You really make a good point.
Henry didn't have god's backing...unneessary that he killed innocent women
Asma Shareef he was a serial killer as far as I am concerned..
@@lindaambrose1334 - In the truest sense of the term.
If not for that, Elizabeth the queen first never would have existed, so leave her dad alone.. his rule created her reign and protestant rule aka lead to the modern/ western revolution, so grow up!
@@doxasophosmoros and if Hitler had not existed and destroyed the economy of Europe, America would not have had it’s golden age. Hitler is still a monster and so is Henry. The silver lining does not negate the cloud
I really hope Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn are just absolutely TORMENTING their loving husband in the afterlife. If that isn't justice, I don't know what is.
I like to imagine that his wives and all the people he hurt are hurting him in the same way he did them over and over and over again for all of eternity
I am always interested in hearing why someone thinks Elizabeth 1 was "the greatest monarch in English history." In my opinion, there were monarchs who did much more than she for the kingdom's culture, education, economy, infrastructure, and military reputation.
Thank you! I'm glad someone finally said it!
I mean karma hit Anne hard, how you get him is how you lose him.
Anne's Karma was good, innocent.
You are basing this judgement on the premise that it was Anne who seduced the King. Perhaps this is a misogynist view. The King clearly had the power over Anne. It is easy for you to judge her 500 years later. If you were placed in such a precarious situation I wonder how you would have favored.
Can I just point out how fine the dude playing Henry is?! I'd let him joust me with his lance all day.
Grøss
@@traitorjoseph1893 "En garde, Henry!" 🤘😂
@@Wouldyoujust_ 🤣🤣🤣😬wtf!
@@traitorjoseph1893 😂😂 I'm awful, I know. Lmaoooo!
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂 I actually laughed out loud! Like I all out ugly laughed.
He is fine asf... and I usually don't notice gingers
What a interesting story!! Congrats.
Every time they handle royal artifacts without gloves I shiver 😖
poor cathy... those ppl are so evil. and that poor child mary.
Yaay I’m so happy to see Dr. Lishman in this documentary!
It might just be me, but the Lady presenting this documentary looks amazing like the actress who played Bessie Blount in ( The Tutors ) very beautiful
Yes, Beautiful woman indeed.
Can I say I love this ladies hair:)
Can you say worse baby daddy ever . ..
Well then, that is the first time I am noticing King Henry's "bulge" in that picture lmfao.
Yeah pictures can lie.Look at kanye west hanging there w his arms outstretched on a cross like he's measuring something.His lil 5ft arms span, lol!
Fhuura Liulfr Same here! I’ve seen that picture so many times, yet never once noticed it! Even when he tried his hardest, altering images of himself in every way possible, his “masculinity” still goes unnoticed to this day, and admittedly that brings me a little bit of satisfaction! Lol! 😂😂😂
@@BhappyD lmao yup! he was a bastard!
41:45 Im wheezing
Everyone knows a lie when they "see" it, as in the painting. Lol. I guess it's the equivalent to the modern day saying about why a man drives a big truck.
Excellent thanks.
Why is she not wearing gloves when she is holding queen Ann’s prayers book??🤔
Anne wasn't buried there, they believe they found her bones in an unmarked grave a century or so later
She does not deal with Thomas Cromwell's role who likely poisoned the waters.... but of course Henry just wanted shut of her...
@@LegalesePodcast OK ... point taken but he is likely to have a role in her downfall and the narrator did attribute motivations to Henry VIII - take care and be safe during this difficult time. I did enjoy the documentary
I love listening to Dr.Lipscomb.
What a nice and talented host is Dr Suzannah Lipscomb.
Very sad story from every angle you could think of , I think the take away here is the lesson that if you cause misery to make yourself happy , karma is gonna get to you one way or another , I mean I for one don’t think for a moment that Ann was guilty of any of the charges against her, but she hurt and caused misery to so many people to get the throne and to get the king and as history tells us it was that very king who was the very death of hers .. ironic and very sad
It was not a coincidence that after only 17 days after the death of katherine...hell began to break loose in their lives and marriage.
You get what you give
Yeah, he had a severe head injury. (Tends to be known to change people's behaviours).
She was mean to Katherine no doubt ...but she didn't deserve a punishment so severe
Hoping for more videos like this.....
Shouldn't they be wearing white gloves when handling historic books?
It depends. The guidelines have changed. Sometimes it is actually more dangerous to use gloves when handling those kind of books; you become more susceptible to tearing pages by accident.
@Kel Hudson If you throughoutly wash your hands immediatly before handling the books then it shouldn't be a problem. Or so I hear, at least. I'm sure the people responsible for taking care of the books wouldn't allow for improper conduct of valuable historical material, especially if it's all being recorded and posted online.
@Jayden Pretty sure it's fine. If they were the kind of books & documents that required gloves, they would have required her to wear gloves. Don't get your undies in a bunch.
Jayden gloves have been shown to cause more damage via rips and tears. If hands are washed, and dried, and the books aren’t handled a lot, it’s fine.
@@PollyGammy still...
It's one thing to barehandedly carefully open page after page but rubbing your finger back and forth on the ink itself?? By now, I presume) it must be very fragile! She did that with Ann Boleyn's last handwritten message and I couldn't help help but cringe!
Ow why da heck am i falling in love with these casts actors & actresses 🙈
Poor Anne.. she didn't commit adultery she knew that would ruin her
@@jehovahnissi1961 probably.
Lady that presented this was top notch and very entertaining to listen to and watch , o and also pretty 👍
No matter how anointed a king is , he is still just a man, and has no more right to commit adultery than a woman. God still forbids it. His wives were punished for it and he thought it was allowed just because he was the king. God very much disagrees, and that hasn’t changed. The rules haven’t changed and neither has God’s Word.
The reason adultery by a queen was worse was because before the days of paternity tests there was no knowing if any child an adulterous Queen could be carrying was the King's or not. That threw the succession and thus security of the entire country into great risk. Civil wars had been started before over who the rightful heir was. It ran much deeper than a marriage vow, it was literally a national security matter.
he was not anointed
@@twelfthlady847 Well said!!!! Very true!
That is a cold-hearted punishment that Henry had given Anne Boylen by having her beheaded at the Tower of London and she doesn’t deserve to be killed like that
Anne herself had Henry behead courtiers she didn't like. She was no innocent. That was just the way of the world back then in the English court.
These Royals were monstrous....I'm so glad Queen Elizabeth isn't like that!!!
She cant afford to be like that in these modern times. There would be actual backlash against her and her overall powers are limited compared to Henry's.
Layla well thank goodness for that!
@@Just999Me N0 loo K95 loo poo loo
anny791 well she’s in her 90s ...she can’t be up to too much.
"So different from the home life of our own dear Queen!"
The narrator and actors are mesmerizing
This production should be on television I hope to see it soon
Imagine if Anne Boleyne had a son...She wouldve been the most respected by King Henry.
The head injury could have caused brain damage therefore lead to his personality change
These things are what makes Royalty interesting. Not some boring interview in the media.
Katharine was a victim? No she was a survivor from Henry's to make it out of their relationship/marriage alive tbh she's lucky!
Ironic that their Daughter Elizabeth turned out to be the most revered and accomplished sovereigns of not only the Tudor dynasty, but the in the history of Uk monarchs. A true politician with brains
I love how in many of the reenactments of Henry VIII, they always make him good looking, like in that show "The Tudors". Henry, wasn't a very handsome man at all lol. Anyway, I still don't understand why Henry couldn't be happy with having a female heir. And while some here are calling Queen Elizabeth I the greatest British monarch, I think that title belongs to the current monarch, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. God Save The Queen!
Keep in mind that Henry's father became king when Richard III was killed in battle. The ability to lead an army and fight for the throne was a very real part of kingship in Tudor times. And the common view that a queen would be governed by her husband is likely one reason Elizabeth never married.
It was believed that a woman could not rule. Many other aristocratic families with a blood line to the throne would have gotten their armies and all fought it out to be the next king of England. It would have destroyed the country in civil war, plus other foreign countries might of invaded and tried to take over England with no male heir.