She's a PRODIGY! | Ludwig van Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata ( 3rd Movement ) Tina S Cover | Reaction

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  • @f.d.robben159
    @f.d.robben159 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    A few years ago I showed my youngest daughter this video to inspire her. When I told her that this was originally written for the piano, she asked me if I could play it. I have been playing the piano since I was a child and have had lessons for about 7 years. I promised her to practice. It took me over a year and more practice than I have done since I was a teenager and I was able to fulfill my promise. My daughter is now learning the guitar. Thank you Tina S!!!

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to listen to the piano version by Valentina LISITSA th-cam.com/video/zucBfXpCA6s/w-d-xo.html

  • @denveradams4909
    @denveradams4909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is one of the most complicated pieces of music to ever be played on guitar and Tina makes it look effortless. That little smile at the end is her way of saying, "Yeah, I just did that". And to do it on video in one take, is unbelievable.

  • @henrybialik8333
    @henrybialik8333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ludwig van Beethoven would be proud!

  • @capttheo1
    @capttheo1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    And she doesn't miss a note here.

  • @gregoryjamessnayer7271
    @gregoryjamessnayer7271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This was the last cover by Tina before going of the charts for about seven years, apparently to study technology and not law as what previously suspected. Even then, I speak under correction for that last bit.
    This piece was arranged for guitar by Dr Viossy, an Italian. There is/was a video putting Viossy and Tina together playing this same piece. The similarity in fingering is astonishing.
    Nevertheless, this was the last of the series of covers that she did, recorded in 2016.
    Do take time to listen and enjoy the rest of her 14+ covers. I have no doubt that Tina SETKIC is the best of the best.
    Thank you for a really lovely and enjoyable reaction. I like. ❤

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She can no longer play covers because she has to pay royalties to the creators ! DragonForce's Herman LI explained why.

  • @blkbushirishwhiskey
    @blkbushirishwhiskey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the 3 or 4 times her left hand flicks down and back so fast it’s a blur.

    • @davidsleith7222
      @davidsleith7222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no wonder she used a hairband at top neck for this, so fast to such a heavy sound, the feedback would have been insane.

  • @barrettflorida
    @barrettflorida 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She now has an album out with her band. She disappeared for several years while attending school. So glad she is back

  • @rodleger7132
    @rodleger7132 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We are in the presence of a Master.

  • @AnthonyKellett
    @AnthonyKellett 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Tina's covers of Jason Becker's 'Altitudes' , Steve Vai's 'For the Love of God', and Gary Moore's 'The Loner' are my favourites.

  • @tarmotyyri6733
    @tarmotyyri6733 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Tina S. was voted the best guitarist on TH-cam for three years in a row, but then she took a long break in 2016 to study law. Now she has returned with her own band & this is one of their new songs: Spin Twice - What’s Wrong With Me? (Official Music Video). You can find it on Tina's TH-cam channel.
    P.S. A professional British guitarist has also reacted to this amazing performance & told that it took him 2 weeks to learn to play the first 12 seconds of this song flawlessly.

    • @CyberBeep_kenshi
      @CyberBeep_kenshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh good to know, she's definitely talented

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Study LAW ???????????? In her ENGINEERING school ????????????? It's STRANGE !!!
      Her school, Télécom SudParis is a major engineering, research and innovation school in information and communication science and technology.

    • @tarmotyyri6733
      @tarmotyyri6733 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IA_Information_Paris Thanks for correcting me.

  • @marclamidet9386
    @marclamidet9386 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    She also Plays Vivaldi, Paganini, Malmsteen, Gary Moore, Stevevai, Jason Becker...

  • @IcarusDrowning-gz8se
    @IcarusDrowning-gz8se 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to live with a friend of mine who is now a professional music teacher and performer on several different instruments. During the time we lived together she was practicing this daily for fun between learning the pieces for her first diploma, and she never did get this to a standard she was satisfied with. I loved listening to her play it, though. So I was surprised when you said you played it at grade 8! But then you said you played sections of it and I understood.
    I'm still impressed, though. I'm impressed by anyone who can play any of this on any instrument, but this Tina S performance blows me away every time. She's amazingly skillful. Such a wonderful guitarist.

  • @cptchaotic
    @cptchaotic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is how you get young people interested in classical music.

  • @ericsicard910
    @ericsicard910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It’s an italian guitarist nicknamed Dr Viossy who did the translation to guitar.
    Then Renaud Louis-Servais, french guitar hero and Tina’s teacher at that time (he teached to many other guitarist prodigies such as Dany Villareal from The Warning), and who is recording the video here, asked the permission to use Dr Viossy’s music sheet on Tina’s behalf and got it.
    The stoicism is her focus face, she is 100% concentrated on the play.
    One concert pianist reacted to it and said she didn’t miss a single note. 😂

    • @Biomirth
      @Biomirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As another pianist who's played this many times, she didn't miss anything and added quite a lot!

    • @Biomirth
      @Biomirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pat-m.-_-.8154 I agree and I'm a huge The Warning fan.

    • @CyberBeep_kenshi
      @CyberBeep_kenshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and they are Thousands of notes, i recall 20.000 ish, but i could be wrong

    • @frankiek2269
      @frankiek2269 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CyberBeep_kenshi I saw that comment where the guy figured it all out and it wasn’t near that high. Can’t remember his note tally. But I recall he said it divided down to about 7. something notes a second. That equal’s 420 notes a minute for a 6 minute song making it around 2.520 notes.

    • @CyberBeep_kenshi
      @CyberBeep_kenshi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frankiek2269 ah ok, it was many years ago lol. number lingered in my memory. regardless, she's incredible

  • @RemyBonnici
    @RemyBonnici 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Seen her videos .. she is definitely an amazing guitarist!

  • @johnhawkins_twa
    @johnhawkins_twa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tina started playing classical guitar at a conservatory in France at the age of 6. She switched to electric at the age of 13 under the tutelage of Renaud Louis-Servais, as mentioned by ericsicard910. She was 17 in this video. I first discovered Tina when she was around 8. She used to post her classical covers on her TH-cam site, and you could tell back then she was something special. As others have mentioned, my favorite covers of hers are For The Love of God, Altitudes, and The Loner.

  • @Immortall1408
    @Immortall1408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She started on a classical guitar and was apparently inspired by another child prodigy named Ana Vidovic whose performances on a classical guitar reached on TH-cam several million views. Another such prodigy on an electric guitar is Li-sa-X from Japan.

  • @joeyc630
    @joeyc630 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You should definitely check out Tina Setkic Dragon Force through the fire and the flames cover at 15 years old awesome 👌

  • @deansouthwick1906
    @deansouthwick1906 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Her cover of ‘Through the Fire & Flames’ showcases another of her aspects, perfect accuracy and timing. Her pinch harmonics, tapping and arpeggios is ungodly good. She actually plays both guitarists parts during the song, that’s what blew Herman Li away. It’s not a cover…it’s an upgrade.

  • @kentovewagenes1141
    @kentovewagenes1141 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Her cover of Dragonforce-Trough the fire and flames is freakin insane and she was only 15 years old in that performance 😮

    • @IcarusDrowning-gz8se
      @IcarusDrowning-gz8se 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes! I came here directly from watching a reaction to the Dragonforce video. Herman Lee also reacted to her video and was amazed by her skill.
      That's always a popular reaction, if the channel folks are reading this 😇

    • @gottagowork
      @gottagowork 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any reaction to this cover by Tina doing her guitar should immediately be followed by reacting to Junna's cover doing her drums.

    • @bernhardkulzer9125
      @bernhardkulzer9125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You`re absolutely right! But try out her interpretation of "For the love of god" by Steve Vai...🤩🤘

  • @baz0348
    @baz0348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She does a fantastic cover of Gary Moore's the loner.

  • @scottlaughlin9897
    @scottlaughlin9897 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Had to say goodbye to my guitar after seeing this.

  • @Miguel-uj1ps
    @Miguel-uj1ps 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only in her Galaxy maybe everyone is virtuous and prodigious because here on our planet earth only in dreams or practicing 24 hours a day, Tina was born with an unimaginable talent her guitar is just another extension of her body she is a 👽 an out of series, Mexico

  • @davidhoffman3560
    @davidhoffman3560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TINA BLEW MY MIND ALSO!!!! I LOVE YOUR REACTION TO HER!!!! IT'S VERY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE'S ABLE TO PLAY LIKE THAT AT ANY AGE AND SHE'S JUST LAUGHING AT OLD GUITAR PLAYER'S IN SIDE LIKE YEAH I JUST STONE COLD DONE THAT LET'S SEE YOU DO IT!¡ LOL SHE'S THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN!!! AT ANY AGE BUT 17 GET REAL ALL YOU CAN SAY IS A PRODIGY WITH OUT A DOUGHT

  • @akangbudiman2024
    @akangbudiman2024 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amaazziing TINA S Waoouuww wouuww

  • @greggwilliamson
    @greggwilliamson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love to see classical pianists react to this and classical flutists react to Jethro Tull. Oh, and ANY guitarist react to Roy Clark's, "Malaguena".

  • @e.h.5849
    @e.h.5849 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Spin Twice made my head spin twice. From disappointment. That's said, Tina is still a sweatheart and a prodigy and what she had graced us with in her solo videos is legendary. But her recent group production is not at all what I had expected her to produce when and if she ever came back.

    • @Ontheroadagain777
      @Ontheroadagain777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally of your opinion, she deserves so much better, even if the music is nice to listen to, she is absolutely not highlighted enough

  • @eTraxx
    @eTraxx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I don't think stoic is really the "it". I think she concentrates so utterly completely that it looks stoic .. but is instead a mind focused very, very sharply. On Beethoven and Metal. He .. Beethoven was a genius .. it simply amazes me that people used to metal find that .. when they listen .. STOP ..and listen .. that the classics can be a blast. I simply stop and stare .. and think .. YEEEsssss .. Great Music is .. Great Music ... that is WHY it is still listened to hundreds of years after the first performance. Reminds me of a reactor who had watched a black and white film and was shocked that is was good .. to which is was and still am .. puzzled. Why .. should the movie being good surprise someone. Art appeals to people in different ways .. just why a painter using color or gray tones would be producing .. art .. and trash .. because of the pigments? Seriously .. makes no sense to me.

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tina interview : "Even if on my videos I seem, as many say, to be bored, it's quite the opposite. I am super focused, deeply into the solo!"

  • @kevinmarch4259
    @kevinmarch4259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tina S - in my top three guitarists 🔥🔥🔥

  • @kevinmarch4259
    @kevinmarch4259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her new band is Spin Twice

  • @CyberBeep_kenshi
    @CyberBeep_kenshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    she's rather specialm and hard worker

  • @davidsleith7222
    @davidsleith7222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great reaction, cheers.
    i've played guitar almost 40 years, took me 3 days to learn first 6 seconds of this. pesky french wimmen! heya tina if yer trolling - hope band is doing well.

  • @QBTO
    @QBTO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People often contemplate where Tina S went to, the truth is she had to return to her home planet for further shredding ! 😜

  • @randallhaney7909
    @randallhaney7909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Check out her "Vivaldi" cover

  • @Mischnikvideos
    @Mischnikvideos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beethoven is the metalhead among the classics. His work can be very dynamic and he himself was a choleric. He composed the third part of the sonata at this speed, but the first movement is very slow and very well known. He composed it for piano.
    Today Tina makes rock, not metal. So far there is only one EP:
    Spin Twice - What's Wrong With Me? (Official Music Video)

  • @jwhiteuk
    @jwhiteuk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obviously Tina is incredible and I think she could have played that blindfolded......... Massive shout out to the drummer as well...... it's difficult, but it's worth listening again and trying to focus on the drums.... really wish he/she was in the shot!

  • @denveradams4909
    @denveradams4909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite from Tina would be "For The Love of God" a Steve Vai cover. Just fantastic stuff here. Thanks for reacting to this.

  • @cptchaotic
    @cptchaotic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might I suggest -> Apocalyptica - Hall of The Mountain King (Official Video) Where classical music meets heavy metal cello. Yeah you read that right heavy metal cello. From 16 years ago with a runtime of 4 min 53 sec. I think you will enjoy it.

  • @davidsleith7222
    @davidsleith7222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the cadenza slays me. not to mention her chucking in fake harmonics cos she's bored, ofc its all mapped out first, sublime techniques, as she is doing more than 1. im pretty good at the guitar finger tapping thing but his is a whole different level.

  • @kevinmarch4259
    @kevinmarch4259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You also have to do a cover reaction to For the Love of God by Tina. Through the fire and flames, she plays the rhythm background, and the lead

  • @GillesReynaud-r3f
    @GillesReynaud-r3f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VIVALDI Tina S COVER

  • @davidnash2781
    @davidnash2781 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you did not look any of her other covers??? They are so good

  • @CrazyhorseDK
    @CrazyhorseDK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tina is like randy rhoads was unique she was like 15 in this video not one note missed whether it be vivaldi or dragonforce or anything in between watch hermans Li`s twitch reaction to her , he had several oh shit shes good moments and he wrote it , hell she plays Appregios from hell by malmsteen like it isnt 2 shits shes went to lawschool , but resurfaced recently , but 2 solos covered in this same with her tornado of souls cover

  • @davidsleith7222
    @davidsleith7222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    aye, from 9:40 on, dun blink

  • @marekeos
    @marekeos หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Beethoven wrote this, he had a power outage.

  • @TimoMusyal
    @TimoMusyal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And now your must reakt to junna fire and flames drum cover...🎉😂❤insane!!!!!!!

  • @derekpetersen7571
    @derekpetersen7571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been watching Tina S for years now you need to go down this rabbit hole you will be astonished with all of her music Check out the Best of times from Dream Theater it’s the most beautiful solo ever

  • @HarryPotter-dl3kb
    @HarryPotter-dl3kb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can she play flight of the bumblebee. I think that would be child's play for her

  • @deansouthwick1906
    @deansouthwick1906 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please tell me you guys are going to go further down the Tina S rabbit hole. This is barely scratching the surface!!!

  • @capttheo1
    @capttheo1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She doesn't hear the thousands of guitars being thrown out windows.

  • @CyberBeep_kenshi
    @CyberBeep_kenshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Correct, classical music are 100% connected to metal. See i,e, my favourite band Epica! These folks are classically trained and the orchestra/choir parts are composed in the original songs, not slapped on afterwards (like Metallica did one). And it Really pays off.
    Dimmu borgir Gateways (live with agnetta) is another example!

  • @Bo2diddly
    @Bo2diddly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yngwie Malmsteen.........the 80's..........Neoclassical metal😁

  • @marcfromparis333
    @marcfromparis333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tina S released a few videos when she was a teenager. She left Intenet because of the hate she received for her videos. I recommend her cover of DragonForce for the next one. And Steve Vai's ‘For the Love of God’ and... 🤘

    • @ericsicard910
      @ericsicard910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She left internet for her studies. And came back last year when it was completed.
      She said in an interview at that time that she didn’t care about the comments of nobodys, only took in consideration the comments from the metal and guitar greats.

    • @Biomirth
      @Biomirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, that has never been confirmed by Tina S. That is a rumor perpetuated by comments like this (which is kind of ironic if you think about it). Let us wait for Tina to say for herself thanks.

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "She left Internet because of the hate" ???? HAHAHA LOL !
      Tina S interview:
      "The comments of the jealous and the haters and trolls do not interest me, I don't care, they do not know the music and the guitar, they are unknows.That's Internet.
      It is only the reactions of the professionals that interest me, and I thank Van Halen, Pink Floyd, Dragonforce, Dream Theater, Jason Becker, Steve Vai for their congratulatory tweets!"

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TINA INTERVIEW MTV NEWS :
      - QUESTION : Several million views of your videos on TH-cam, how do you feel?
      - TINA : When I put my videos online, I really don't expect them to be so successful. It's true that at the time it's a little intimidating when you see the number of views, comments, encouragement, compliments, even if it is true that I sometimes come across a few not very nice hateful comments, and jealous, but I don't care, that's the internet.

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tina interview TV NEWS :
      -- Question : Do you feel invested with a special mission because you 're a girl and you are in a very male dominated environment?
      -- Tina: Not particularly. It is true that it's good to succeed in a world where the dominant by men. It is important to show that a girl can play as well as a man.

  • @grc9ball
    @grc9ball 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Already been said but you also need to react to her covers of Dragon Force - Through the fire and Flames, and Steve Vai - For he Love of God.

  • @Biomirth
    @Biomirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who trained classical piano for a long time (and other instruments later) I don't think it's stoicism except in a philosophical sense. When you put in that much practice as an introvert, alone, you realize eventually that all of your calories go to your brain and your hands, and nothing else. You don't have 'spare' calories to do anything but focus on exactly what matters. And don't get me wrong, a lot of people react to Tina this way. She's not performing per se as a visual performance. She's performing as a musical accomplishment for her teacher and the camera. Her lack of showmanship is actually more endearing than if she felt any need to show off or play for the camera. It isn't about her, it's about the execution of the song, pretty much flawlessly.
    Anyways, if you only do 2 more of Tina S, please include Steve Vai's "For the Love of God". I'm not particularly a Steve Vai fan myself but this song is beautiful and Tina shows just how much emotion can be put into the arrangement and execution of a piece of music that is already quite expressive. For me, it's her very best performance.

    • @Biomirth
      @Biomirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pat-m.-_-.8154 I don't claim any of these are objectively better. I just prefer the Vai to them as performed by Tina S.

  • @paularietta6744
    @paularietta6744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It just struck me that I wonder if her band mates are intimidated at all given her guitar prowess?

  • @giafoneozu9998
    @giafoneozu9998 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now you learn it, how hard can it be?

  • @DWilliams-ce8nb
    @DWilliams-ce8nb หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is air-guitar stolen-valor?

  • @jamesb8837
    @jamesb8837 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spoiled by the MUPPET shaking his head

    • @enterthecronic
      @enterthecronic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spoiled by the keyboard warrior needing his daddy who left him

    • @DWilliams-ce8nb
      @DWilliams-ce8nb หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% So annoying. Epic performance, clouded by a bobble-head.

  • @randallhaney7909
    @randallhaney7909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tina S.? ..- Van Halen 's "Eruption"? (which she covered at age 14)
    Seems to be barley like a warm up exercise for her.
    Look at her ..
    No flash cloths; seated;
    Flat black back drop; the guitar has a blond neck for contrast.
    No exaggerated facial expressions,
    No huge & cool amp. stack showing.
    It seems; It's all about correctly executing the music for her,
    Not look at me I'm so cool.. Just listen,
    Only about the music.
    And my friends, That says a lot about our music/musician "Hero's" vs. true talent.
    Just Say'n.
    Reply

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2023 : Poor TINA S, she has changed, she is anorexic, depressed, tattooed all over her body, her hair bleached, peroxided. She left her guitar teacher, she left her family. She got in with bad people. Yet we believed that she had a healthy mind !!
      Her new band is SPIN TWICE, imitation Linkin Park and Breaking Benjamin or Manneskin.

    • @randallhaney7909
      @randallhaney7909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IA_Information_Paris I find this comment to be more than a bit malicious and completely; inconsistent with the truth.

  • @ACorpseWithoutSoul
    @ACorpseWithoutSoul 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are so many years late...

  • @DaveSVT-rn4of
    @DaveSVT-rn4of หลายเดือนก่อน

    She averages almost 9 notes per second in this piece.

  • @musiclover9361
    @musiclover9361 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, I think she was 16 when she did this.

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO, she was 17 and 4 months in August 2016 !

    • @musiclover9361
      @musiclover9361 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IA_Information_Pariswhen she recorded it or when it was posted online?

  • @billdevany3303
    @billdevany3303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    everyone wonders why she diapered for two years. my guess is that that's how long it takes to learn a song like this. she most likely practiced five or more for hours a day for years to learn this one. my god she is incredible!

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IDIOT, Tina is a schoolgirl, she doesn't have time to play. She learns very quickly and has a good memory. After recording this piece she entered an engineering school where she lives. Her teacher Renaud said she learned this music in 2 months during the summer school holidays!

    • @IA_Information_Paris
      @IA_Information_Paris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tina S interview : "As far as my working time is concerned, it is quite limited. I go to school all week, which doesn't allow me to play my guitar."

  • @patriciacanadiansenior8130
    @patriciacanadiansenior8130 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No effort at all.

  • @blastingweevil2968
    @blastingweevil2968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imagine after 11 years of playing being this good... most players who have been playing 40+ years are not this good...

  • @roy19491
    @roy19491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    classical music; and, grand opera, are both heavy metal without electricity.....