Love both your channels. Samong, you definitely need to do research about your own people. You’re the much younger generation and someone definitely told you the wrong history. America didn’t come to the Hmongs rescue, Hmongs were recruited by the CIA to fight the Americans war. Just don’t want people out there getting the wrong history lesson by this video.
@00ninja00 kinda perspective on that statement right? Just wanna make sure we're not talking in absolutes like there's one and only one way to see,view,think on a situation! That would be silly right!? Uhm sir your wrong lemme correct you by explaining they didn't rescue they used you, it's the same thing different perspective imo! Lol to those wanting to be here rescue,to the hmongs who think in victimhood likely the otherway ay!?
@@proudlyamerican2764 my statement was just to correct Samong. And my statement is fact, not how I feel about it or how anyone else feels about it. And I fully understand your statement, which is how one feels about the situation of that war, they can see it whichever way (rescued or used). But objectively, and the fact is that what Samong said in the podcast, is not historically correct. The Hmong were not already in a war and America came along and rescued them/used them. Fact is the war was America’s. CIA recruited the Hmong to fight on behalf of America. But this is not the place for a long discussion about what actually happened, I was just simply correcting Samong and hoping that anyone out there who sees the comment, may understand that the actual history and what happened is not what’s mentioned in this podcast, and if anyone is interested enough, they can easily do research themself, there’s plenty of info online about the Hmong’s involvement in the war.
@@00ninja00 Hey! I appreciate the comment! Like you said, I never experienced the war because I was born after it and in the US after my parents had already left Laos. I don't know the exact history, but what little I do know about it comes from my uncles, aunts, and parents who lived through it. My parents and uncles lived through that very time which is where I get my history from as opposed to history books and research. One of my uncles that lives in town with me, whom I'm very fond of, was one of the ones that was recruited and fought with the US military during those times. He has shared countless stories and his personal experience of the war when we go hunting together. But, personal stories often get overshadowed by the general timeline of events and never make it to the history books. Although the U.S. did recruit many Hmong men (and boys) to help them fight the spread of communism as you said, there were also many benefits that resulted in the presence of the United States. This is what I meant when I said aid. In terms of the U.S. aiding the Hmong people, the U.S consistently supplied food drops which fed many Hmong during and after the war was over because livestock and farms were destroyed by the war. It was also the U.S. government that helped many Hmong refugees settle into America. Weapons, money, and food were all given to the Hmong people by the U.S. too. Yes, the United States recruited the Hmong people to help them fight the war, but there many factors that came to the benefit of the Hmong people. The United States did not necessarily "start the war" as there were already tension between the Royal Lao government and communist Pathet Lao. The better explanation is that the United States escalated that tension between the Laotian government and Pathet Lao, which many history books do mark this as the start of the war. Depending on your perspective, you can argue either way. The Laotian government requested assistance from the United States which is when the U.S. dropped bombs on Laos. But the issue with studying history books and online research is that they miss disregard the small stories and little unspoken voices of many who lived during that time such as my parents, uncles, aunts, and grandparents who lived through all of that. Again, I'm not expert on this topic. I just reiterate what I hear from my family members who were alive and experienced this era first-hand. There are many sides to this big historical event, and you have a lot of merit to your comment. Thanks for sharing!
2nd generation Korean American grew up in Alaska hunting and fishing. Can't say enough how much Samong has positively impacted the Asian community and inspired people to get outdoors. He certainly inspired me and my son to enjoy this lifestyle and culture. Great conversations, love the partnership and passion!
Two of my most favorite channels. Glad to see Samong getting the exposure he deserves. Washington is a a hard state to hunt and no-one represents Washington hunting better than him.
I'm so stoked that you guys connected. Two of my favorite content creators. You both have a spark that's similar to what drew me to Rinella's early work. That authenticity, intelligence, and honesty is rare. I have no doubt your platforms will continue to grow and inspire others, because what you're sharing goes beyond just hunting techniques - it motivates people like me to get outside. Not to simply imitate you guys, but to learn and develop our own connection with the outdoors. Thank you both for being such positive forces in the hunting community (in your own ways).
I was so happy to watch this. Samong is such a fantastic representation for the hunting community. This is exactly what people who don't hunt need to see. Great job on the interview, Cliff!
Long time lurker of both channels. Glad to see the both of you collaborating. Samong does a great job actually explaining what he is doing and why when he is hunting. It's very educational and insightful versus just being entertaining. Being successful in the PNW is a grind. Credit where it's due, to the both of you, I've been able to learn enough to take both deer and elk this last season. Keep up the great work!
62 years old born and raised in eastern Washington I’ve been watching Samong for over 8 years. Can say he has inspired this old guy to embrace the resources that we do have here in this state. I have a hand full of channels that when they up load a video I have to watch it, Samong is one of my top favorites.
I always want to watch more of his videos. I am subscribed but have been slacking. Every time I hear this guy talk I like him. Seems like a great dude, genuine, positive attitude and outlook. We need more like him!
Heck yeah what a great podcast. Glad to see Samong on here and get his perspective. What a genuine guy who gets after it and loves to share his adventures.
Im chinese ive never seen another asian hunter in person. I was not raised to hunt and picked it up at 20, but its now become my life passion. Its a mystery to me why there arent more asian hunters🤷♂️ Samong, if you're ever hunt in Utah hmu!
A lot of them are hunters. You’re just looking at the wrong type of Asians. The ones you want to look for are South East Asians. Hmong, Lao, Mien, and Cambodian.
My wife (Japanese) hunts. Killed more elk than I have. EVERYONE is shocked/surprised when they find she hunts; it's like their brain cannot reconcile an asian (business) woman that would hunt.
Me and my wife enjoy Samong's Channel. We really like fishing, foraging and her family does some hunting near our farm in Thailand close to Laos. When me and my Thai wife are in Arizona, she is fascinated with the amount of fishing and hunting sports we can enjoy here.
@CliffGray I packed up left a good paying job, moved to a log home on the edge of the Mountains, where I can hunt and fish out my back door. I commute 45 min each way to a new lower paying career so that I could enjoy the outdoor before I get too old to do the backwoods stuff. I hunted with relatives when I was very young but started up as a 44 yr old. Since moving out here I have solo harvested two Whitetail bucks and my first bull elk. Life is better and I have become obsessed with hunting. Please continue to focus both your channels on the average, everyday hunts. Both of you played a role inspiring me to make this move. Here in Alberta a Bighorn sheep tag just sold for $400,000 to a guy in Utah. I live 30min from the two best Bighorn zones but will likely never have the opportunity to hunt them as a tag will take 30yrs of priority points. To th point, please keep it real for the little guy. Thank you for fuelling my new passion and teaching me how to do the gutless method for elk!
Awesome podcast from the both of you. Been following you both for years and this was exactly what we needed. Great talking points on where we need to spend more constructive, authentic, and just real conversation on where we all are failing on educational value to the hunting scene.
this kid is on the right track . i put his video on for new hunters . I been in the game for many years . but in my day making a film was a big deal . and early internet just was not there
I'm 64 yo and hunted blacktail in N Calif in the 70s. We hunted from tree blinds in the same spot every year. That and road hunting. Never did the back country hunting until I tried elk hunting in New Mexico. I truly enjoy watching the younger generation and how hunting methods have changed over the years.
Just started this one but I feel like its going to be just what I need. Been following you both for a few years now. I have been living overseas the past few years and been scheming on how I'm going to get back into western hunting when I return.i used to do OTC archery elk in CO back when I lived in Texas. But im nearing 40 and have 2 small kids and can't get out for as many or as long of hunts as I used to. So im leaning more towards lower barrier to entry rifle backpack hunts. I honestly dont even care for what species. I am a taxidermist and I do all my own meat processing and am really into everything involved in wild game cooking so I look forward to checking off more species as well.
TH-cam is absolutely tough. It is a relief to hear from other people who make videos like cliff that they also had a hard time getting subscribers because I’ve been doing it almost a year and I get down sometimes about only being at 800.
I have some Aisian friends that only hunt squirrels. Some only fish and a few deer hunt. Some do it all. None that don't do any. They are the most including and polite people I know.
Along the lines of the discussion on asians not telling you that you're a POS for hunting. I've been living over seas in the middle east and traveling to a ton of Asian countries for the past few years. Also a lot of the working population here in Qatar are from these countries. I spend a lot of time with these people and get to know them as well as doing a lot of fishing here with them. EVERY single one of them finds my hunting super interesting and they think it's really cool that I acquire my own food. Goes into the foraging aspect. There are also a ton of countries over here in the middle east and Asia where you CANT hunt and those people are always really intrigued and talk about how they wish they could hunt. Its been a welcome change from living in the US where I have to constantly defend myself even tho i go out of my way to not post gruesome pics and I always add the meat processing pictures to the end of the post. Which I'm super proud that I do all my own processing and I enjoy that part a lot...but I'd be lying if I didn't also feel like it was a prerequisite to not get shit on as much
1st generation Chinese Canadian hunter here. I'm 1/4 Hakka and 3/4 Han Chinese, and I was never distant from my food. My Hakka grandpa would buy live animals from the market believing a freshly slaughtered animal is better eating. I started helping him since 4 years old and learned how to humanely dispatch most small animals without making a mess in the condo. If we eat at 6pm, we kill the animal at 4pm, it's part of the cooking process. His family who resides in the southern China mountains still go after boars, birds, and bamboo rats which are surprisingly tasty. My Han part of the family, who's been farmers for as long as we could remember, never gave up hunting and gathering, and relied on foraging and bomb fishing to survive hard times. Now I hunt in Southern BC just north of Whistler, my grandma told me I remind her of her brother who was so resourceful, could always bring home food in extreme scarcity, but unfortunately died in a famine in the 60s. When I hunt, I feel connected with my ancestors far back home as well as the ancestors who lived on the land. It's the ultimate human experience. Great show, thank you both for bringing this aspect into focus and all the great content so far. I'm a self taught and both of you helped me tremendously!
"Changed my Life" - John Eberhart explains this - becoming more successful as a hunter makes you more confident more patient more pleasant to be around makes you happy and then your wife and family happy. Quicker tag out means more family time and time to relax. Feeling satisfied rather than frustrated. That's how John explains it and I can get that.
Great talk. A trekking pole and some sig zulu6's are all I glass with now. It's about as light as I can go, super fast to take a look at stuff, and the stability makes up for the glass quality imo. I can make out critters and what they are doing from a Raft on a lake or randomly walking up a hill any time I see something that catches my eye. Makes me see critters I normally never would. I have learned to appreciate the tighter field ov view since everything I point them at my adhd brain actually picks apart so I don't just notice movement.
How do you guys deal with altitude sickness, thats if you guys have ever got it , and can you give any advice on how to avoid it and what to do to prevent it
Hey Dave I have an old video on it. Stay hydrated Don’t get exhausted in the first 24-48hrs Acclimate slowly if possible. Be in decent shape. It’s tricky to deal with for many people.
Great interview. I agree that sometimes we injure animals and it’s not always pretty. I’ve done it. However, we are doing ourselves and the animals we hunt an injustice with all these idiots posting videos of 80/90 yard bow shots and never recover the animal. It’s just stupid negative exposure.
@UpNorthOutWest i haven't hunted from 2020 till 4th Season 2024 due to the fact I went back to school. It was hard to tell here in CO since 4th is a draw Season
@kyezek524 if i remember right, i believe they are going away with OTC elk tags for out of state hunters in Colorado. You may see a decline after that. Personally, for me its nice in the short term that there is less pressure and less trucks at the trail head, etc, but it worries me in the long term where hunting is heading with less people being advocates for the sport and such.
@@UpNorthOutWest They already did that last year, which increased the number of OTC rifle elk hunters. All it did was reallocated hunters to different hunts but that's why certain hunts are more coveted because they give out fewer tags for those specific hunts. I'm sure some states hunting might be down, but in general, as a whole, there is still more participation in hunting than precovid.
You may not see as many cars parked in those areas anymore because of mature buck depletion or the fact that they were tired of seeing all the competition in the same area
Great interview. On the discussion on showing video of the mishaps and errors, I believe that in most cases, hunters attempt to be ethical and take shots they are capable of taking. However, I also believe that many DIY hunters do carry some pressure to succeed and ultimately, put food in the freezer. They've invested time and resources, both which are usually in limited quantities. That pressure may result in some errors (bad judgment, poor shots, etc.). In the end, for me, I don't think 98-99% of hunters intend to injure or maim an animal. They want the animal to succumb quickly. And process the meat efficiently and effectively. So, I personally have a high level of grace, knowing the fine line between a great shot, and a not so great shot. Stuff happens. I work in the healthcare field and there is saying I commonly reiterate to folks, providers (physicians, advance practice providers, nurses, etc) "practice medicine." They regrettably make mistakes. It's not a perfect science. Bad outcomes happen, much like hunting. Don't be cavalier, but have grace. Try your best and keep hunting and learning. Thanks Cliff and Samong. Great discussion. Enjoy your channels and thanks for sharing!
I'll stick with Samong. Thats real hunting and honest. He doesn't get out the tape measure and start scoring antlers . He takes care the meat and its about the packout not the score
Thanks for having me on the podcast, Cliff! Great chatting with you!
Thanks for being on man 👍
Love both your channels. Samong, you definitely need to do research about your own people. You’re the much younger generation and someone definitely told you the wrong history.
America didn’t come to the Hmongs rescue, Hmongs were recruited by the CIA to fight the Americans war. Just don’t want people out there getting the wrong history lesson by this video.
@00ninja00 kinda perspective on that statement right? Just wanna make sure we're not talking in absolutes like there's one and only one way to see,view,think on a situation! That would be silly right!? Uhm sir your wrong lemme correct you by explaining they didn't rescue they used you, it's the same thing different perspective imo! Lol to those wanting to be here rescue,to the hmongs who think in victimhood likely the otherway ay!?
@@proudlyamerican2764 my statement was just to correct Samong. And my statement is fact, not how I feel about it or how anyone else feels about it. And I fully understand your statement, which is how one feels about the situation of that war, they can see it whichever way (rescued or used). But objectively, and the fact is that what Samong said in the podcast, is not historically correct. The Hmong were not already in a war and America came along and rescued them/used them. Fact is the war was America’s. CIA recruited the Hmong to fight on behalf of America. But this is not the place for a long discussion about what actually happened, I was just simply correcting Samong and hoping that anyone out there who sees the comment, may understand that the actual history and what happened is not what’s mentioned in this podcast, and if anyone is interested enough, they can easily do research themself, there’s plenty of info online about the Hmong’s involvement in the war.
@@00ninja00 Hey! I appreciate the comment! Like you said, I never experienced the war because I was born after it and in the US after my parents had already left Laos. I don't know the exact history, but what little I do know about it comes from my uncles, aunts, and parents who lived through it. My parents and uncles lived through that very time which is where I get my history from as opposed to history books and research. One of my uncles that lives in town with me, whom I'm very fond of, was one of the ones that was recruited and fought with the US military during those times. He has shared countless stories and his personal experience of the war when we go hunting together. But, personal stories often get overshadowed by the general timeline of events and never make it to the history books.
Although the U.S. did recruit many Hmong men (and boys) to help them fight the spread of communism as you said, there were also many benefits that resulted in the presence of the United States. This is what I meant when I said aid.
In terms of the U.S. aiding the Hmong people, the U.S consistently supplied food drops which fed many Hmong during and after the war was over because livestock and farms were destroyed by the war. It was also the U.S. government that helped many Hmong refugees settle into America. Weapons, money, and food were all given to the Hmong people by the U.S. too. Yes, the United States recruited the Hmong people to help them fight the war, but there many factors that came to the benefit of the Hmong people.
The United States did not necessarily "start the war" as there were already tension between the Royal Lao government and communist Pathet Lao. The better explanation is that the United States escalated that tension between the Laotian government and Pathet Lao, which many history books do mark this as the start of the war. Depending on your perspective, you can argue either way. The Laotian government requested assistance from the United States which is when the U.S. dropped bombs on Laos.
But the issue with studying history books and online research is that they miss disregard the small stories and little unspoken voices of many who lived during that time such as my parents, uncles, aunts, and grandparents who lived through all of that. Again, I'm not expert on this topic. I just reiterate what I hear from my family members who were alive and experienced this era first-hand. There are many sides to this big historical event, and you have a lot of merit to your comment. Thanks for sharing!
Cliff and Samong?! Hell yeah!!
i really enjoyed speaking with him. great dude
His uncle's quality elk hunt video is one of the best captures out there. Everyone should watch it.
2nd generation Korean American grew up in Alaska hunting and fishing. Can't say enough how much Samong has positively impacted the Asian community and inspired people to get outdoors. He certainly inspired me and my son to enjoy this lifestyle and culture. Great conversations, love the partnership and passion!
love it man. that is great to hear!
Samong Outdoors….
Best hunting channel on TH-cam. IMO!!!
Two of my most favorite channels. Glad to see Samong getting the exposure he deserves. Washington is a a hard state to hunt and no-one represents Washington hunting better than him.
Like many of Samong's subscribers, I stumbled into one of his videos last December and became hooked immediately. Samong rocks!!
Samong is the man! I love his videos and the way he films them. So nice to see the honest self-filmed adventures he shares with us! Great podcast!
I'm so stoked that you guys connected. Two of my favorite content creators. You both have a spark that's similar to what drew me to Rinella's early work. That authenticity, intelligence, and honesty is rare. I have no doubt your platforms will continue to grow and inspire others, because what you're sharing goes beyond just hunting techniques - it motivates people like me to get outside. Not to simply imitate you guys, but to learn and develop our own connection with the outdoors. Thank you both for being such positive forces in the hunting community (in your own ways).
Absolutely love Samong's channel. Probably my two favorite hunting channels combined here. Love it!
👍👊🏻
Couple of some of then most humbles hunters on TH-cam, I feel a spring bear hunt collaboration would be legit!
Brilliant interview, great job! Also, Samong is a beautiful human being, a guy you wish you had as a friend.
hahaha well said
Another home run interview. I have learned a ton from the last 3-4 long form interviews.
good to hear! thanks
I was so happy to watch this. Samong is such a fantastic representation for the hunting community. This is exactly what people who don't hunt need to see. Great job on the interview, Cliff!
Thanks!
Long time lurker of both channels. Glad to see the both of you collaborating. Samong does a great job actually explaining what he is doing and why when he is hunting. It's very educational and insightful versus just being entertaining. Being successful in the PNW is a grind. Credit where it's due, to the both of you, I've been able to learn enough to take both deer and elk this last season. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man. Appreciate the support
62 years old born and raised in eastern Washington I’ve been watching Samong for over 8 years. Can say he has inspired this old guy to embrace the resources that we do have here in this state. I have a hand full of channels that when they up load a video I have to watch it, Samong is one of my top favorites.
LOVE his channel! He’s got great hunts, packing, planning, equipment, filming and real life hunting. Love that you brought him on!
You and Samong are the two hunting youtubers I follow the most for all the reasons you two talk about in this podcast.
I always want to watch more of his videos. I am subscribed but have been slacking. Every time I hear this guy talk I like him. Seems like a great dude, genuine, positive attitude and outlook. We need more like him!
Heck yeah what a great podcast. Glad to see Samong on here and get his perspective. What a genuine guy who gets after it and loves to share his adventures.
Thanks Cliff and Samong for sharing all the great hunting tactics and knowledge.
I love this guys content
It’s good stuff 👍
Im chinese ive never seen another asian hunter in person. I was not raised to hunt and picked it up at 20, but its now become my life passion. Its a mystery to me why there arent more asian hunters🤷♂️
Samong, if you're ever hunt in Utah hmu!
agreed!
A lot of them are hunters. You’re just looking at the wrong type of Asians. The ones you want to look for are South East Asians. Hmong, Lao, Mien, and Cambodian.
@@teejay6421 Very true.
My wife (Japanese) hunts. Killed more elk than I have. EVERYONE is shocked/surprised when they find she hunts; it's like their brain cannot reconcile an asian (business) woman that would hunt.
@@brentfleckner3294 bwhahaha!
So wonderful to have these 2 great resources! Peace Be The Journey!
Me and my wife enjoy Samong's Channel. We really like fishing, foraging and her family does some hunting near our farm in Thailand close to Laos. When me and my Thai wife are in Arizona, she is fascinated with the amount of fishing and hunting sports we can enjoy here.
Big Samong fan. His family hunts are the best.🎉
Samong and Cliff? It's like a dream :)
bwhahah!
Love this episode. I’m an Asian American with refugee background myself and late life hunter. This is on point!
Loved this. Two folks I follow coming together. Great topics, everything from equity in access to tactics and gear. One of my favorite episodes ever.
Really enjoyed the interview with Samong. I follow him and his energy seems tireless. Now I'm following you. Cheers.
Thank you for your sacrifices guys, this changed my life! 😀
@CliffGray I packed up left a good paying job, moved to a log home on the edge of the Mountains, where I can hunt and fish out my back door. I commute 45 min each way to a new lower paying career so that I could enjoy the outdoor before I get too old to do the backwoods stuff. I hunted with relatives when I was very young but started up as a 44 yr old. Since moving out here I have solo harvested two Whitetail bucks and my first bull elk. Life is better and I have become obsessed with hunting. Please continue to focus both your channels on the average, everyday hunts. Both of you played a role inspiring me to make this move. Here in Alberta a Bighorn sheep tag just sold for $400,000 to a guy in Utah. I live 30min from the two best Bighorn zones but will likely never have the opportunity to hunt them as a tag will take 30yrs of priority points. To th point, please keep it real for the little guy. Thank you for fuelling my new passion and teaching me how to do the gutless method for elk!
Love this man. Thanks for sharing and congrats on your new path. Sounds like you’re living now 👍
Awesome podcast from the both of you. Been following you both for years and this was exactly what we needed. Great talking points on where we need to spend more constructive, authentic, and just real conversation on where we all are failing on educational value to the hunting scene.
this kid is on the right track . i put his video on for new hunters . I been in the game for many years . but in my day making a film was a big deal . and early internet just was not there
Samong is the reason I started hunting.
I'm 64 yo and hunted blacktail in N Calif in the 70s. We hunted from tree blinds in the same spot every year. That and road hunting. Never did the back country hunting until I tried elk hunting in New Mexico. I truly enjoy watching the younger generation and how hunting methods have changed over the years.
Great interview! Keep up the good work Cliff and Samong.
Just started this one but I feel like its going to be just what I need. Been following you both for a few years now. I have been living overseas the past few years and been scheming on how I'm going to get back into western hunting when I return.i used to do OTC archery elk in CO back when I lived in Texas. But im nearing 40 and have 2 small kids and can't get out for as many or as long of hunts as I used to. So im leaning more towards lower barrier to entry rifle backpack hunts. I honestly dont even care for what species. I am a taxidermist and I do all my own meat processing and am really into everything involved in wild game cooking so I look forward to checking off more species as well.
👍 good stuff. Lots of great species and hunts out there
Had to click on right away and let you know-- I am so excited to listen to this-- thank you!
Edit. 2 hours later, well worth it.
Bwhaha love that edit!
Love hearing from a new and young and diverse person
this was top quality - thank you both
Thanks!
TH-cam is absolutely tough. It is a relief to hear from other people who make videos like cliff that they also had a hard time getting subscribers because I’ve been doing it almost a year and I get down sometimes about only being at 800.
Awesome video. keep em coming
Great conversation! Thanks for sharing.
I have some Aisian friends that only hunt squirrels. Some only fish and a few deer hunt. Some do it all. None that don't do any.
They are the most including and polite people I know.
Just started watching Yang and I really enjoy the content. Keep it up.
This man knows what he's doing.
Here from samongoutdoors channel. Awesome episode.
Along the lines of the discussion on asians not telling you that you're a POS for hunting. I've been living over seas in the middle east and traveling to a ton of Asian countries for the past few years. Also a lot of the working population here in Qatar are from these countries. I spend a lot of time with these people and get to know them as well as doing a lot of fishing here with them. EVERY single one of them finds my hunting super interesting and they think it's really cool that I acquire my own food. Goes into the foraging aspect. There are also a ton of countries over here in the middle east and Asia where you CANT hunt and those people are always really intrigued and talk about how they wish they could hunt. Its been a welcome change from living in the US where I have to constantly defend myself even tho i go out of my way to not post gruesome pics and I always add the meat processing pictures to the end of the post. Which I'm super proud that I do all my own processing and I enjoy that part a lot...but I'd be lying if I didn't also feel like it was a prerequisite to not get shit on as much
Outstanding podcast!
One of my favorite things about samongs videos is there down to earth and dont have a bunch of crappy music and excessive slow mo
1st generation Chinese Canadian hunter here. I'm 1/4 Hakka and 3/4 Han Chinese, and I was never distant from my food. My Hakka grandpa would buy live animals from the market believing a freshly slaughtered animal is better eating. I started helping him since 4 years old and learned how to humanely dispatch most small animals without making a mess in the condo. If we eat at 6pm, we kill the animal at 4pm, it's part of the cooking process. His family who resides in the southern China mountains still go after boars, birds, and bamboo rats which are surprisingly tasty. My Han part of the family, who's been farmers for as long as we could remember, never gave up hunting and gathering, and relied on foraging and bomb fishing to survive hard times. Now I hunt in Southern BC just north of Whistler, my grandma told me I remind her of her brother who was so resourceful, could always bring home food in extreme scarcity, but unfortunately died in a famine in the 60s. When I hunt, I feel connected with my ancestors far back home as well as the ancestors who lived on the land. It's the ultimate human experience. Great show, thank you both for bringing this aspect into focus and all the great content so far. I'm a self taught and both of you helped me tremendously!
Love this kid!
45 year washington hunter, your so right about timber glassing, I've shot more deer from 25 yards, that weren't there 10 seconds ago
"Changed my Life" - John Eberhart explains this - becoming more successful as a hunter makes you more confident more patient more pleasant to be around makes you happy and then your wife and family happy. Quicker tag out means more family time and time to relax. Feeling satisfied rather than frustrated.
That's how John explains it and I can get that.
Great talk. A trekking pole and some sig zulu6's are all I glass with now. It's about as light as I can go, super fast to take a look at stuff, and the stability makes up for the glass quality imo. I can make out critters and what they are doing from a Raft on a lake or randomly walking up a hill any time I see something that catches my eye. Makes me see critters I normally never would. I have learned to appreciate the tighter field ov view since everything I point them at my adhd brain actually picks apart so I don't just notice movement.
Great video guys🤘🏼
Great interview!
Thanks!
Where im located in Iowa the mong people go out in the spring and collect large grasshoppers. Its really kind cool!
How do you guys deal with altitude sickness, thats if you guys have ever got it , and can you give any advice on how to avoid it and what to do to prevent it
Hey Dave I have an old video on it.
Stay hydrated
Don’t get exhausted in the first 24-48hrs
Acclimate slowly if possible.
Be in decent shape.
It’s tricky to deal with for many people.
Here from Samong's channel
awesome!
What’s the link to your knife Cliff?
Great interview. I agree that sometimes we injure animals and it’s not always pretty. I’ve done it. However, we are doing ourselves and the animals we hunt an injustice with all these idiots posting videos of 80/90 yard bow shots and never recover the animal. It’s just stupid negative exposure.
I feel like hunting became even more popular after COVID hit! I enjoyed this but I feel like not as many backpack hunters as there are truck hunters.
It spiked during covid but has now came down to even lower numbers prior to covid, atleast in the state of washington according to license sales.
@UpNorthOutWest i haven't hunted from 2020 till 4th Season 2024 due to the fact I went back to school. It was hard to tell here in CO since 4th is a draw Season
I wish it was like that here in Colorado. Numbers have came down since Covid but they are still higher than precovid
@kyezek524 if i remember right, i believe they are going away with OTC elk tags for out of state hunters in Colorado.
You may see a decline after that.
Personally, for me its nice in the short term that there is less pressure and less trucks at the trail head, etc, but it worries me in the long term where hunting is heading with less people being advocates for the sport and such.
@@UpNorthOutWest They already did that last year, which increased the number of OTC rifle elk hunters. All it did was reallocated hunters to different hunts but that's why certain hunts are more coveted because they give out fewer tags for those specific hunts. I'm sure some states hunting might be down, but in general, as a whole, there is still more participation in hunting than precovid.
You may not see as many cars parked in those areas anymore because of mature buck depletion or the fact that they were tired of seeing all the competition in the same area
Great interview. On the discussion on showing video of the mishaps and errors, I believe that in most cases, hunters attempt to be ethical and take shots they are capable of taking. However, I also believe that many DIY hunters do carry some pressure to succeed and ultimately, put food in the freezer. They've invested time and resources, both which are usually in limited quantities. That pressure may result in some errors (bad judgment, poor shots, etc.).
In the end, for me, I don't think 98-99% of hunters intend to injure or maim an animal. They want the animal to succumb quickly. And process the meat efficiently and effectively. So, I personally have a high level of grace, knowing the fine line between a great shot, and a not so great shot. Stuff happens.
I work in the healthcare field and there is saying I commonly reiterate to folks, providers (physicians, advance practice providers, nurses, etc) "practice medicine." They regrettably make mistakes. It's not a perfect science. Bad outcomes happen, much like hunting.
Don't be cavalier, but have grace. Try your best and keep hunting and learning.
Thanks Cliff and Samong. Great discussion. Enjoy your channels and thanks for sharing!
37:44 not for historical. Its for the future of hunting.
Your new logo/picture threw me way off!!! It's very Ron Spomer lol.....
i would if answered that underated gear diffrently. lol
There isnt many pnw hunting channels doing pnw stuff.
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my best days in camp were when the dumb asses left as but like my dad said the next ones might be more ignorant ☹😱
I'll stick with Samong. Thats real hunting and honest. He doesn't get out the tape measure and start scoring antlers . He takes care the meat and its about the packout not the score
Too many poor shot decisions on his channel imho. It does influence the next generation.