1408: The Philosophical Depths That Horror Can Reach

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  • 1408 may seem like a cliched, shallow, Hollywoodized attempt at horror that owes its whole existence to a short story by Stephen King and the films of the genre that preceded it. But that’s a surface appraisal. In reality what lies beneath the surface of this film is a brilliant examination of what a person’s life amounts to when it reaches its end, what binds us in our own personal hell and, overall, what a person needs to do in order to escape that hell.
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  • @JohnMocny
    @JohnMocny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4836

    What an awesome, epic spectacle of a video essay. I've always liked this movie but never had the amount of appreciation for its layers that I do now after seeing this. Keep up the great work, guys!

    • @rageagainstmyhairline5574
      @rageagainstmyhairline5574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Couldn't agree more. An exceptional analysis; genuinely interesting and revelatory. Well done indeed.

    • @firebug089
      @firebug089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Honestly was quite impressed aswell, Wasn't expecting this amount of depth at all

    • @deshaunmcneal8963
      @deshaunmcneal8963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This mutafucka just scared me...

    • @deshaunmcneal8963
      @deshaunmcneal8963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whole different aspect.

    • @cemarz
      @cemarz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This video is nuts. It's what happens when you have a theory and really want to sell it. You can bend enough and ignore enough info to convince plenty of people you're right. But the movie literally goes out of it's way to literally tell us things that are completely contradictory to this video.
      Mike doesn't die in the beginning, we know this from his funeral one one ending.
      He isn't seeking god. We know this because he literally tells us he's looking for ghosts. He writes books about ghosts and not books about god. His soul searching book is a book about the loss of a child and not religious. In the second of two possible endings it is not a god that is revealed to him, it's the proof of the paranormal and ghosts.
      The room isn't hell. The movie goes out of it's way to tell us it's just an evil room, and does so numerous times.

  • @rooski1191
    @rooski1191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5500

    It's also interesting to note that room 1408 means the 8th room on floor 14. However, most tall buildings don't have 13th floor because it is considered unlucky. Usually jumping from floor 12 to 14. This means room 1408 is on the wrongly labeled 13th floor. Making it room 1308, which is the year the Divine Comedy began being written.

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +376

      HeimdallsDottir actually also/or 1+4+0+8=13

    • @francislelievre5172
      @francislelievre5172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@StopFear
      but 1+3=4,
      & 4!=24.

    • @_yellow
      @_yellow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      If it jumps from 12 to 14 that makes floor number 14 the 13th floor. Even if you call it and sign it with "14" and not "13".

    • @cosmonaut379
      @cosmonaut379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      its not "most" , most buildings don't skip a 13th floor. It is very uncommon just so you know.

    • @VocalEdgeTV
      @VocalEdgeTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oooo!

  • @GoreyBits
    @GoreyBits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    1408 still holds up. So intense and psychologically terrifying.

    • @Hades1100
      @Hades1100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought the ending was kinda shitty after the whole almost drowning and freezing then burning part. Otherwise it's enjoyable

    • @professorcookie1744
      @professorcookie1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can't find another horror movie that's as good as this. I feel like I've already watched every great horror movies.

    • @aligmal5031
      @aligmal5031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@professorcookie1744 watch the russian movie come and see :)

    • @professorcookie1744
      @professorcookie1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aligmal5031 Oh yes I've seen that movie and it was fantastic! The cinematography and the whole atmosphere of the movie gave me chills. The brutality of war.

  • @PotawatomiThunderNew
    @PotawatomiThunderNew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1006

    Does anyone else think John Cusack gave an awesome performance in this film? I thought he did great. Especially in parts where sudden realization sets in for him and how he reacts to them. It’s like you can actually see his mind taking a brief moment to register what just happened. Like when he suddenly believes he’s being spied on by a camera in the ceiling vent. Or when he’s crawling through the vent looking down into the other room, and she looks up at him, then he yells “Jesus Christ!” And recoils. And obviously one of the most important ones, when he has the whole “I was out!” scene.

    • @aamesworld
      @aamesworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      PotawatomiThunderNew honestly very under the radar. Oscar worthy in my eyes.

    • @Kazza_8240
      @Kazza_8240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aamesworld another under the radar Cusak/King film is Cell, Samuel L Jackson is also in it, seems at first like a different spin on the zombie/mind control/virus stories, but Sai King doesn't try to make it palatable, I read the book before seeing the film, but the ending is still a shock to see

    • @Nopperabou
      @Nopperabou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes it's a career best.

    • @PotawatomiThunderNew
      @PotawatomiThunderNew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Mary Burdette hahahahha 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that scene killed me. He sees Samuel L Jackson’s character, but obviously he’s not really in there. So when they do the over-the-shoulder view, it’s just John Cusack with the door open yelling “WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!?” at the inside of a normal refrigerator hahah! Like just the image of him berating a bunch of inanimate food and drinks was hilarious to me. 😂

    • @memyself898
      @memyself898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Daniel Appleton there is no Dana only Zuul

  • @EmmaKearney0119
    @EmmaKearney0119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    What really freaks me out about this movie, is that it really reminds me of when I had a horrible trip on acid. I experienced, what felt like, a never ending cycle of horrible events repeating over and over, which I thought was hell, and that satan was torturing me, and every time I thought it was about to stop, it would start over again, and it really truly felt like this movie in a sense.

    • @Proverbs--tx6yr
      @Proverbs--tx6yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Drugs allow our spirits to open a portal to satan. What you experienced was real not a bad trip…give your life to God, its the only way any of us can avoid what you saw..✝️❤️

    • @ryanjames4840
      @ryanjames4840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Proverbs--tx6yr NEEEEEERD!

    • @billsales3235
      @billsales3235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      admit it emma.... something ugly happened during that trip [or that year found you in a bad 'life situation'] and the acid just intensified your natural bad reaction to that ugliness.

    • @EmmaKearney0119
      @EmmaKearney0119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@billsales3235 nah it was definitely more suppressed horrible fears I always had growing up of hell and demons and shit that I just tried to forget about, but now I just don’t believe in it so I’m doing much better now lol

    • @EmmaKearney0119
      @EmmaKearney0119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Proverbs--tx6yr I’m sorry but I definitely believe that to be incorrect. Growing up, I was constantly taught about demons, demon possession & hell, and this ingrained a very deep and horrible fear of these things. I would sometimes wake up in the middle of night crying from nightmares, and all these fears came up during this trip because that is what LSD has the tendency to do. It activates certain neurotransmitters that cause you to just be more aware of certain things happening in your subconscious brain. Once I realized this, I stopped fearing all of those things and I’m much better now for it.

  • @stark1987
    @stark1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    "as you are, i was, as i am, you will be", terrifying reality

    • @LovelyHick
      @LovelyHick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Deliq You must be 18 or something? 30-40 especially is like 20-30 with actual cash, its not something to dread at all man.

    • @LovelyHick
      @LovelyHick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Deliq Dont give up is all i can say man :l
      Ever heard about the dude that went to Mexico with his last savings that was to last a few weeks but came back after a few months determined to keep trucking?
      Hookers and cocaine can fix a lot of issues if family life isnt tempting right now.

    • @LovelyHick
      @LovelyHick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Deliq Well now i know why you dont like living at least :l

    • @TheMemorialStorm
      @TheMemorialStorm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @stark1987 There's a reason why we use the word "monster" to describe something horrible. Look up its etymology.

    • @moler646445
      @moler646445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      true

  • @linZstylee
    @linZstylee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +669

    That window scene is one of the most effective scenes I have ever seen in a horror movie. I absolutely love it.

    • @Nomihc
      @Nomihc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Lindsey M that window scene haunted me for months after watching the movie. Truly memorable.

    • @PotawatomiThunderNew
      @PotawatomiThunderNew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Which window scene do you mean? Are you talking about the one where he was looking out at the window across from him, or the one where he climbs out of his window to get to the other one and then just sees a long stretch of wall with no window??? Or do you even mean one of the smaller scale window moments where he gets his hand smashed in the window or when he sees figures jumping out?

    • @ashyclaret
      @ashyclaret 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@PotawatomiThunderNew
      They don't know.

    • @miniaturesandstuff5209
      @miniaturesandstuff5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@PotawatomiThunderNew for me the one where he's trying to communicate with a supposed office worker working overtime only to see it's his doppelganger with a dead eyed stare mimicking his every move.
      Dang that scared me for days! 😮

    • @teashlee521
      @teashlee521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      If you mean the scene where he sees himself in the window, that concept always terrifies me because yeah things can be scary like monsters or demons but the one thing you’re not meant to ever see standing in front of yourself, is yourself and I think that’s why it’s so scary

  • @xxxxSOSEXYxxxx
    @xxxxSOSEXYxxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    This is such an underrated movie. Not enough people reference or have even seen this movie.

    • @kleptoatefisixtodatoowonfi658
      @kleptoatefisixtodatoowonfi658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Without question

    • @avedic
      @avedic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Room 1408 might be the most _re-watchable_ movie I can think of.
      I've probably seen it 30 times.....more than any other film.
      And it's not even in my top 10 or 20 favorite movies.
      It's just really really good. A nice solid movie that holds up on repeat viewings. It's my standby when I can't think of what to watch. :)

    • @Kazza_8240
      @Kazza_8240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cell is also underrated, with John Cusak and Samuel L Jackson in it, I dont know a lot of people who have seen it, those I do, are not really big Stephen King fans and describe it as boring, but to me, the ending of Cell was creepy, unexpected, and thought provoking. Stayed in my mind for ages after seeing it.

    • @ChrisJones-rd4wb
      @ChrisJones-rd4wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came expecting philosophy, got dogma instead

    • @willkoestner4159
      @willkoestner4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisJones-rd4wb As long as you came 🤷‍♂️

  • @nikcastle6943
    @nikcastle6943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    7:47 "As you are, I was. As I am, you will be." - best scene ever.

  • @davidrice2622
    @davidrice2622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1061

    That is high-end analysis documentary-style. You really can't get this level of quality from Netflix and Hulu. Bravo sir 10 out of 10 that was just a damn good video

    • @foxmulder7616
      @foxmulder7616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hulu is kind control n destruction watch their commercials " thisis your mind on hulu" (turns on blender =rrrrrrrrrr) lol t v is mind control "programming" TURN IT OFF!!!

    • @tonycariello8478
      @tonycariello8478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Uhmmm... I'd say that's due to the simple fact that Netflix or Hulu or any other streaming service I know of do any sort of analysis of film's at all!!
      ...like duhhh!

    • @anjogaming7977
      @anjogaming7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      very very good . 👏👏👏

    • @MC_1993
      @MC_1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonycariello8478 that’s not true tho. See “room 247”... behind the scenes of LOTR... MANY others are available on Netflix and hulu

  • @RangerProV1
    @RangerProV1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    That awful parking job that Mike pulls 9:20 at the post office is why he gets it in the end.

    • @WazzieShmozzie
      @WazzieShmozzie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      to be fair, the car to left is very much parked over to the right, so he is in his lane, but yeah still lol

    • @mahatmacharya
      @mahatmacharya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hehehe.... yeah that is a pretty awful job!!!
      How could he even open his car door and get out?

    • @patrickcummins79
      @patrickcummins79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Typical behavior of a jaded, miserable person.

  • @Spirosbotos
    @Spirosbotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    1408 was attacked by critics and called mediocre when it released, but that's total bullshit, this is a classic and one of John's best performances!

  • @Miles_Phantasmagoria
    @Miles_Phantasmagoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Dante's Divine Comedy was, first & foremost, a political commentary on how everyone in Florence sucked for kicking him out

    • @klutzspecter3470
      @klutzspecter3470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      When the writer is so mad, he writes a fanfiction of you going to hell.

    • @robertovargas5839
      @robertovargas5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lmao

    • @mattmorehouse9685
      @mattmorehouse9685 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So like God Dante is a vengeful sullen brat. I guess he is going to hell after all.

    • @thegnome73
      @thegnome73 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First and foremost? Nah.

    • @Miles_Phantasmagoria
      @Miles_Phantasmagoria ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thegnome73 elaborate.

  • @nothinmulch
    @nothinmulch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +683

    Samuel Jackson: 52 people have died in this room.
    Main Character: yeah nothing suspicious about that.

    • @cucumber7769
      @cucumber7769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      fuck the room, im changing hotels!

    • @nykytamcdonald
      @nykytamcdonald 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      *John Cusack

    • @turecomuerde
      @turecomuerde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      52 motherfucking people have died in that room

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      56

    • @aamesworld
      @aamesworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      it's an evil fucking room

  • @cornpop9048
    @cornpop9048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Still the creepiest part to me melting phone--
    "ignore the siren, even if you leave this room you can never leave this room...we have killed your friends... Every friend is now dead"

    • @x8_ace_x
      @x8_ace_x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Read the mini-novel in Stephen King's "Everything's Eventual". The short story is even more of a headfuck.

    • @michelsand5399
      @michelsand5399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Drayven Crownen jokes on you jackass! I have no friends...

    • @AliceSpaxxx
      @AliceSpaxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jacques Malan 😂 good one!

    • @necrosunderground
      @necrosunderground 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! Even in the short story, the phone was the part that got me.

    • @chestyp0311
      @chestyp0311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jacques Malan essentially, that is the song version of this film and Dantes Inferno

  • @offhandacoustic
    @offhandacoustic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    That "I WAS OUT" moment resonates with anyone who has ever gotten back with an ex and realized you done fucked up getting back in again.

    • @therapheal_2278
      @therapheal_2278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cant Just Exist facts lol

    • @LASAGNA_LARRY
      @LASAGNA_LARRY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So deep. You are truly the Martin Luther King Jr. of our generation...

  • @brianrobertson3545
    @brianrobertson3545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I NEVER considered 1408 to be a depiction of the inferno.. well done sir

  • @gratefuldoge8598
    @gratefuldoge8598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1006

    This is the movie I reference when someone asks what a "bad trip" feels like in your mind.

    • @ChaosDragons211
      @ChaosDragons211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      woah, you too?

    • @Die_Nasty
      @Die_Nasty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I too believe this. I’ve had many bad trips that really all seem to follow a layering spiral of sin and the pain that comes with it. Every trip I’ve done has been heroic doses. My first trip I took 5 hits of acid and it started a bad trip. And in the end? Paradise. “Coming down” I see as coming down from paradise and entering reality again. My psyche is currently stuck thinkin about everything and wondering why it is the way it is and theorizing upon that question and I hate it. 😅

    • @judeleese7783
      @judeleese7783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ...yes..and “In the Mouth of Madness” is like a nervous breakdown.

    • @AliceSpaxxx
      @AliceSpaxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Die_Nasty yeeeeeeeah, for SURE!

    • @Malfunctsean
      @Malfunctsean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      G The Entity, exactly what I thought.

  • @jenniferthornton4710
    @jenniferthornton4710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I didn't even notice that this video is almost half an hour long. I'm honestly amazed this movie explanation is well explained. Though I watched a different version of this movie where he actually died.

  • @PotawatomiThunderNew
    @PotawatomiThunderNew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    17:17 - 17:41 - That scene kinda cracks me up. After Samuel L Jackson is gone from the scene, Just shows John Cusask screaming “WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!” “WHAT DO YOU WAAAAANT” at the inside of a refrigerator. And on top of that, it shows him attacking the inside of the fridge too. 🤣 I just thought it was a funny looking sight.

    • @gideoniskemp
      @gideoniskemp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That shit WAS hilarious🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @NickWright
    @NickWright 5 ปีที่แล้ว +928

    Did this movie actually receive that negative criticism you mentioned in the beginning!? I fucking LOVED every single thing about this movie.

    • @psyghtseer
      @psyghtseer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      its just that no one likes john cusack

    • @forgotaboutbre
      @forgotaboutbre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@psyghtseer Too bad cuz Cusack is cast ideally for this role

    • @psyghtseer
      @psyghtseer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@forgotaboutbre cant imagine literally anyone else huh

    • @forgotaboutbre
      @forgotaboutbre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@psyghtseer You gotta remember, this was pre 2012 before people hated Cusack and I've never seen that movie so it doesn't bother me. He is basically tortured all movie anyways so perhaps you would enjoy seeing your not so favorite actor literally put thru hell =)

    • @psyghtseer
      @psyghtseer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@forgotaboutbre lol, I did consider that part. I would have probably enjoyed Johnny depp a lil more in this movie but would have been sad about his constant tortue

  • @mattymayhem1232
    @mattymayhem1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Is it me or is this video extremely well written? The research done on this movie is mind boggling. It's great. I was absorbed for 30 minutes.

  • @definitelymaybe_cath
    @definitelymaybe_cath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I love people who "see through" a movie, not just "watching" a movie.
    thank you for this :)

  • @PersianBenji16
    @PersianBenji16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    God, the Doppelganger part was just pure darkness in a video

  • @ObscuredByTime
    @ObscuredByTime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    1408 was such a hardcore story from King at the time. The thing that struck me when I listened to the audiobook is that, unlike many of his stories that deal with evil, this one had a very hard edge with absolutely no hint of the "tongue in cheek." -- just the purest, most straightforward, succinct, compact, concentrated example of something evil that I think King ever wrote. Short and sweet, and 100% black as hell.

    • @ElectreIsMore
      @ElectreIsMore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ^^ This comment ^^

    • @TheoCynical
      @TheoCynical 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like my coffee.

    • @mickthomas6242
      @mickthomas6242 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or like the blackest of heavy metal, the old venom records, et al.

  • @NeutralNinetails
    @NeutralNinetails 5 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    I like the ending where he finds the tape recorder and his ex realizes it was all real.

    • @WazzieShmozzie
      @WazzieShmozzie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      that scene makes the hair stand up on end, such a good scene, makes me want more of the movie

    • @timbazzinett2693
      @timbazzinett2693 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@WazzieShmozzie Yep, The ending always creeps me out. Every. Single. Time.

    • @pammunoz546
      @pammunoz546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I havent seen that ending but ive seen the one he dies in the room and gets buried in the end

    • @TheSlammurai
      @TheSlammurai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@pammunoz546 If I recall correctly, the tape recorder ending isn't really in circulation anymore, as the Blu-rays have a different ending. Which is a shame because I feel like that's the best ending.

    • @fluff1353
      @fluff1353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@pammunoz546 Sam Jackson shows up at his burial at the cemetery with a box of affects he found in the burned out room. Among them is the man's tape recorder. His ex rejects the box and admonishes Jackson's character. He returns to his car with the box, opens it up and presses PLAY on the recorder. It's still working, and you hear Cusack's character saying and experiencing everything he actually experienced. Then Jackson drives off., before the ghost scene with Cusack hearing his daughter's voice and haunting the remnants of the hotel room. It's important to note that when Jackson confronts the ex, he states that Cusack's character was actually a hero, because he made the room forever uninhabitable.

  • @psychorene9800
    @psychorene9800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I remember watching this movie in theaters as a child with my dad and I just recall leaving really disappointed because I didn’t understand the movie but I vividly remember my dad being solemn and quiet after exiting the theatre and on the drive home too I thought he didn’t like the movie either so I just didn’t bring it up again, now years later and with help from this video I realize that my dad probably saw something in this movie that resembled his own life and conflicts, he passed away years ago so I can’t talk to him about it and I feel bad that I won’t ever know the kind of burdens he carried and what he was afraid of

    • @dianacollazo5987
      @dianacollazo5987 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Some day you'll meet with him again. Christ made that possible. Hope you are having a wonderful life

    • @angrytheclown801
      @angrytheclown801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say probably when Michael's daughter dies in his arms, forcing him to process her death twice. A man should never bury his kid even once.

  • @shelbisikorski2509
    @shelbisikorski2509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    “What makes the evil, is the evil inside the person.” 😮

  • @Neptunequeen42
    @Neptunequeen42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    Ordinarily “they were dead the whole time”/“layers of hell” analyses are incredibly cliche and bad - but since this movie actually makes a direct reference to dante it’s one of the few where it’s a completely valid interpretation. The actual structure doesn’t quite line up with the divine comedy but I think it’s definitely intentional that all the circles’ punishments are there. Anyway, you make great video essays! Thanks for selling me on a movie I’d never heard of before!

    • @ChrisJones-rd4wb
      @ChrisJones-rd4wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Came expecting philosophy, got dogma instead.

    • @bun197
      @bun197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ChrisJones-rd4wb You do understand that most philosophers in history have been religious? "Dogma" is anything taken as brute fact for a system to function regardless, secularists have their own set of them.

    • @ErickMcNerney
      @ErickMcNerney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ChrisJones-rd4wb It's like history. The points he was making related to those historical religious concepts. To ignore it would have made this video far less impactful and meaningful. It's clear that the movie was taking cues from Dante's Inferno as well. So I'm not sure what the problem is, even if some of the concepts happen to be considered religious "dogma" to some.

    • @ErickMcNerney
      @ErickMcNerney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChrisJones-rd4wb Also, there is philosophy in religion. I literally took a course in college called "The Philosophy of Religion"
      It covered people who didn't believe in God as well. This whole movie is centered on that very question.

  • @drwily
    @drwily 5 ปีที่แล้ว +967

    This was great! 1408 remains one of the best psychological horrors ever made.

    • @DisDatK9
      @DisDatK9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Dr.Wily I agree! It’s sad that people usually just say it’s confusing. It’s definitely a movie that involves a lot of analysis to pick up on all aspects.

    • @kavijackson868
      @kavijackson868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IKR!!!

    • @rameyzamora1018
      @rameyzamora1018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am so impressed, and I am subbing, too! Thanks for this channel.

    • @wendigo2442
      @wendigo2442 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmmm

    • @xXIBANNANNAIXx
      @xXIBANNANNAIXx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gives me a similar feel to PT

  • @eugeneruby433
    @eugeneruby433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    God, that ending... No idea why they'd change it. Just the main character staring at his loving wife, who he knew never believed him until this moment... Brilliant and cathartic.

  • @teabearchurchill5600
    @teabearchurchill5600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I always loved that quote from the movie that wasn't in the book...
    "Some smart-ass talked about the banality of evil."
    That was actually King himself who commented on banal evil in his classic vampire novel, "'Salem's Lot".

    • @JohnSmith-yf1ro
      @JohnSmith-yf1ro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C.f. the famous Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil

  • @FarikoWishless
    @FarikoWishless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    Fucking made me cry man. This movie always made me feel empathy for his despair this feeling like I was in a pool of it myself. Forcing me to think on reality for hours or days after seeing it. I cannot believe I forgot about this for a good year or more. Hands down my favorite psychological horror and one that truly scares me. Not just jump scares the fear of an ultimate punishment taking form as your own failings your own greed and anger your own laziness and selfishness your lack of love for others unraveling your sanity inch by inch.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch Triangle you will forget this one... It's even more heart wrenching than this one....

    • @americanlakingshomer29
      @americanlakingshomer29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That is why I quit drinking over 10 years ago, I saved my marriage, my relationship with my sons , my career , and my love of others before my wants / needs / etc . The best move I’ve made in the chess game of life. God bless you all

    • @Respect2theFallen
      @Respect2theFallen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nayyarrashid4661 Idk man I love and own triangle but this one fucked me up more. Maybe cuz I struggle with religious beliefs after being raised Christian so this one hits closer and I've said some of the things he says in this film. Triangle is Brilliant though a must watch for sure.

    • @phoenixasteroid79
      @phoenixasteroid79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have same experience..

    • @AliceSpaxxx
      @AliceSpaxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nayyar Rashid yeah this movie is really, really good, but it's for everyone a personal thing, room 1408 fucked me more up!But like I said everybody has a different mindset.

  • @HappyGrims
    @HappyGrims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    1408 has been my favorite horror film for as long as I can remember. I love psychological horror so much because rather than relying on jump scares, it relies on your mind and this movie focuses solely on that. I love how the room was a physical version of his own hell and how it would use every weakness he had against him. It’s a brilliant movie and I always felt like it had an even deeper underlying meaning and I feel like you found that. This video essay was so amazing, ;-; thank you for giving this movie the recognition it deserves

  • @brianjansen3103
    @brianjansen3103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This movie always fascinated me because it's like a bad trip & I can relate to the terror of feeling trapped in an alternate reality

  • @HappyGrims
    @HappyGrims 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    1408 has always been my favorite horror movie. It’s beyond underrated and I appreciate it more than ever after this video essay 💗

  • @AMatterofFilm
    @AMatterofFilm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    Wow! This movie has always been underrated for me, but you just hit a whole new level of depth. Congratulations on the great essay! Subbed.

    • @jackbagnall9851
      @jackbagnall9851 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What movie is this ?

    • @jackbagnall9851
      @jackbagnall9851 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Daniel Valdez yea I just got done watching it.

    • @40nights40daystv
      @40nights40daystv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol thought i'd see A Matter of Film here

    • @keegs1163
      @keegs1163 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was incredible man but where did you get the layers of hell picture in the beginning? Its the only one ive seen that shows the layers and the cantos all in one

    • @NextWorldVR
      @NextWorldVR 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Because of you I looked to check, How the heck was I not already subscribed? ;")

  • @arnoldmanuel3311
    @arnoldmanuel3311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    1408 is one of my most favorite horror movies and I'm glad someone did it justice by talking about the things that made this movie a cut above your conventional haunting movies.

  • @tomfraser1711
    @tomfraser1711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1408 is like the darkside cave in empire strikes back.
    Luke: whats in there?
    yoda: only what you take with you

  • @pab1381
    @pab1381 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I saw this in theaters and at the time I thought it was goofy. However when I rewatched it as an adult I understood how psychologically scary it is. But for his POV he said there would be no god to protect us from them. That’s where he’s wrong. Sort of. If those things exist that are evil then it must mean that the good entities also exist. There’s no one without the other. But my favorite scene for some reason has always been the part where Sam Jackson is sitting in his office and finds out Mike beat the room so he pours himself a drink and says “Well done mr Enslin”.

    • @safespacebear
      @safespacebear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think it's neat how some horror only lands once you're an adult.
      I saw The Shining as a teenager and thought it was creepy and a bit boring. Watched it as an adult and a father and was horrified

  • @marcoslaureano5562
    @marcoslaureano5562 6 ปีที่แล้ว +832

    The firemen who save him also both have the number 7 on their helmets. The number of the Seal of God.

    • @MetaKnight964
      @MetaKnight964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The bible mentions so such thing.

    • @TheNightWatcher1385
      @TheNightWatcher1385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@MetaKnight964 I think we may be referring to the 7 seals, which when undone begin the apocalypse. May be wrong. It's been awhile since I've read Revelation.

    • @therightsupremacist5638
      @therightsupremacist5638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      marcos laureano , Possibly! Good observation!

    • @ivartheboneless2481
      @ivartheboneless2481 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He burns to death dude

    • @biggestbrowneyes
      @biggestbrowneyes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No he lives in the end with his wife ....

  • @legatejakius5386
    @legatejakius5386 5 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    This is honestly one of the greatest TH-cam videos I’ve seen in a long time. You should be more than proud of yourself.

    • @skachor
      @skachor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Which circle is that?

    • @Karl_Marksman
      @Karl_Marksman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      skachor ahaha you cheeky bastard

    • @bensmith9253
      @bensmith9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Superb job.

    • @ForOrAgainstUs
      @ForOrAgainstUs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully you've caught LikeStoriesOfOld's channel as well. Not to blow your top off, but he has a pretty excellent video on the meaning of life that I highly recommend. Saying this because I agree with your assessment. I was not expecting this level of research and effort in this video.

  • @SMENECl
    @SMENECl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I've watched this video about 10 times in the past years. First time I watched it sent me down a rabbit hole of horror symbolism. Thank you so much for this.

  • @TheKidKniseBurgh
    @TheKidKniseBurgh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I worked at a upscale hotel in Pittsburgh, one night my friends and I watched this movie and I really didn't pay much attention to it... the next day at work I was approached by a very unpleasant woman at the desk. She asked me what rooms had a hot tub and I without thinking booked her into 1408. This was at the end of the night and I didn't think much of it. The next day I received a call before work from my manager asking about the woman because she didn't have a reservation and I failed to copy her ID... when I got to work I was approached by detectives... the woman was found dead in the hot tub, she had taken a bunch of pills and slit her wrist... very unnerving

    • @ArinJager1
      @ArinJager1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      source: "trust me, bro" -_-

  • @StopFear
    @StopFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I want to remind something very important about Dante’s Inferno. I took a class which extensively covered Dante and his writings in history. He wrote the story/poem not with the aim to convey how he imagines hell but as a criticism of extreme corruption, disloyalty, and betrayal in Italy at the time where no one could have been trusted and money ran everything.

    • @THX1999
      @THX1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      StopFear sounds alot like these last days

    • @Arkangel630
      @Arkangel630 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Good to know some things don't change eh?

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wolfaesthetic Yes, sure. It’s happening in all places and times which is probably why he used an example of hell as having permanent places for such people implying that it is a problem for all humanity.
      The main unique thing about poem is that he gave the deepest (implying worst) place in hell to the betrayers and it’s frozen solid. Sinner me were frozen or freezing there without escape.

    • @jodaman1000
      @jodaman1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't that be the same for every nation or at least the UNITED STATES.

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jo Bruser Yes, of course. It’s just that Dante wrote about Italy because he was from there, Florence. He knew some people would read it and know what it is about. So the social commentary was aimed at the audiences familiar or possibly familiar with it. I do think it is implied it is like that everywhere actually because of the parallel with the Bible and Christianity, which teaches that all humans everywhere are suffering from the same sinful temptations and bad behavior.

  • @madjackalgames
    @madjackalgames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Turns out I have never seen the original ending of this film, only ever seen the version where he dies at the end xD
    Never even knew it was a alternative ending...

    • @alwaysnever6004
      @alwaysnever6004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      There’s like 3 or 4 ending I think

    • @vJaukbby
      @vJaukbby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me neither boyyo..

    • @devsox1
      @devsox1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I was so confused about this ending because the one I saw, he escapes the room but wakes up back in it. He never ended up escaping. Had no idea there are multiple endings

    • @Aramisrulzz
      @Aramisrulzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      devsox1 the ending I got was that he burned the hotel and he dies but come back to hunt Samuel Jackson

    • @famco_inc737
      @famco_inc737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Me too! But I guess if he dies that completely change the analysis of the video because he can't be in paradise.

  • @Michaelman79
    @Michaelman79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This was the first horror movie I ever saw. I had no idea how deep it was.

    • @cultusfetus
      @cultusfetus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      man what

    • @onionrangerduck7024
      @onionrangerduck7024 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cultusfetus it was my first horror movie too, I saw it as a kid because my mom was too afraid to watch it alone. It ended up being a childhood nightmare.

  • @LouRaccoon
    @LouRaccoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I never realised there were alternate endings. The version I watch saw him die in the room and cuts to his funeral. I think I prefer this ending

    • @theproplady
      @theproplady 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This ending better fits the theme of the Inferno and the Hotel Dolphin being part of the Afterlife. The funeral ending just seems like an excuse for a jumpscare.

  • @goaway_imreading480
    @goaway_imreading480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    I've always thought that if Dante's Inferno was real, I'm really in for a wild ride when I die.

    • @melhupby
      @melhupby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Tell me about it. 9 circles for 9 sins? Well how the fuck am I gonna exist in 9 circles simultane-
      Ah shit...the cat furries have it all figured out.

    • @K1ng_Solo
      @K1ng_Solo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We all are

    • @ChrisJones-rd4wb
      @ChrisJones-rd4wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ive always found it fascinating that most *Christ* -ians, for some reason, seem too follow the old Jewish texts more than the teachings of Christ himself.
      What's funny is that Jesus never preached of heaven and hell, he only made vague statements that evangelicals take out of context and latch onto, projecting their violent world views onto them.

    • @KevinM88TR11
      @KevinM88TR11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ChrisJones-rd4wb there's alot of pastors that believes Hell does not exist, but its not easy for them to preach that

    • @Peter_H_Art
      @Peter_H_Art 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chris Jones check out Richard Rohr if you haven’t already. Very intelligent guy and speaks a lot on that topic

  • @JustJ.
    @JustJ. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I chose this randomly, for background noise while I work. I ended up watching the video instead of doing the work! Lol 😂 You did a great job! 👍

    • @internettevarolanadam
      @internettevarolanadam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      An in depth analysis of 1408 with connections with Greek and Christian myths, for background noise. That must be "hell" of a ride

  • @QuantumPsychonautics
    @QuantumPsychonautics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As I watched this spellbinding film adapted from Stephen King's short story, I could not help but wonder how much of this was illustrated by King's unconscious mind. It is as this review suggests, a quintessential metaphysical tour de force, littered archetypal imagery and symbolic easter eggs. The only weak spots are the references to Dante's inferno, which give away the literary structure of the plot. Still, this is an unbelievably good horror film and a great film in general. King is and will always be one the best wtiters and storytellers of the 21st century. John Cusack is absolutely brilliant in this film as well! A+ overall.

  • @5crewyouy0uT00B
    @5crewyouy0uT00B 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU.
    Man the first time I saw this film I was like "oh, this is what horror should look like." I had seen a few films in the genre that were OK to pretty deece but this was the first that made me not just shocked or jump scared, but truly horrified, and not afraid. It made me think of the endless ways a mind can torment itself into total cataclysmic destruction and make death seem like an escape.
    AND THE WAY IT ENDS
    it reminds me of the ritual, or even the newer evil dead. The triumph in the face of cosmic evil so unknowable the catharsis of crawling out of hell and shouting back at the devils from the other side is like falling willingly into shockingly cold water. FUCK MAN. fuck.

  • @KauanRMKlein
    @KauanRMKlein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    The urge to watch this film overpowered me, sorry, I just love it... can't finish your video. It seems great, I'll leave a like. I gotta go watch 1408 now.

    • @NextWorldVR
      @NextWorldVR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WELL COME BACK AFTER DUH! Layered films are meant to be analyzed, rewatched... Talked about :)

  • @WilliamSlaght
    @WilliamSlaght 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    This is my fourth time watching this ever since yesterday.... There's something extraordinarily profound about this, and it touches me and I don't know what. You made me change the way I view this movie. It's amazing!

  • @AaronTheStupidFace
    @AaronTheStupidFace ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just a reminder, since I'm at the lust part. Lust does not have to be only for women. I'd say it's more believable that he's lusting after the thrill of finding supernatural evidence.

  • @liftinglight5153
    @liftinglight5153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I never seen this version.
    The version of this movie I saw, he blew up in the hotel and appeared as a ghost in Samuel L Jackson’s backseat as he was leaving the funeral lol

    • @mr.elastomeric1787
      @mr.elastomeric1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard there were four alternate endings only can find 2. Movie is free on You tube and the alternate ending is as well.

    • @skywalkerchick
      @skywalkerchick 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was the director’s cut ending. The theatrical ending is the one where he survives the room, writes his book about it, and he and his wife recover the recording of their daughter on his burnt tape recorder. The director’s cut was how the movie was supposed to end originally, but it was cut when it performed badly with test audiences, and tbh I agree that it should’ve been cut. Supposedly, test audiences said it was too depressing, but I thought it was just a little too outlandish. Why would Olin be surprised to hear Katie’s voice on the recorder when he knows nothing about Mike’s personal history? And the jumpscare with Mike’s burnt corpse in the back seat, it just kinda kills the tone. I honestly think the theatrical cut was the overall stronger version of the movie.

  • @wilsonwilson169
    @wilsonwilson169 6 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I actually prefer the alternate ending. With the alternate, it actually places Mike with his daughter, instead of his wife. He sacrifices his soul in order to protect other souls from the hell that he had come to know as 1408. Once he passes away, the final scene shows the windows of 1408 outside of The Dolphin, burnt and charred. Eventually, the camera is level with the windows, peering into the room which is completely destroyed, due to the success of Mike's plan. There you see Mike, standing there smoking a cigarette, surrounded by his work of destroying 1408 (probably the piece of work he is most proud of). You hear his daughter call for him, and he turns around towards the door of 1408. He responds with "Yes, of course" and walks towards the door. He fades through the door, and then you hear the door shut, and lock, symbolizing that Mike is now at peace, Nirvana, etc. to spend the rest of eternity with his daughter.
    This ending portrays the seriousness of the movie. The amount of hell Mike had deserved ultimately ended in his death. He wasnt allowed the opportunity to come back to life, explain what had happened to his wife, and enjoy what he had taken for granted all those years prior. No, he gave his soul for the mission of destroying this hell, 1408.

    • @greetings.haveaniceday.7162
      @greetings.haveaniceday.7162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I still like the fairy tale ending, where he survives.

    • @Melkje
      @Melkje 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So is this ending from the blue-ray version?

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I didn’t actually see that conclusion at all. I think the meaning was that his daughter never actually died but it was something in his head and perhaps even his grieving for his daughter was his negative thinking about how he would think and behave IF that took place. So essentially fear.
      OR
      It could have meant that that he actually died before getting into the room. The room itself is an illusion he is seeing after he died or killed himself.

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The directors cut with the original theater ending is the best version, it just is more coherent, some scenes cut add tension and explain more details. There are 2 other endings I first encountered on the blockbuster release. They also are interesting.

    • @burning1aces777
      @burning1aces777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I mean as someone who originally knew nothing about the movie and watched it on tv in passing one day (the version where he dies), then months later buying the movie from the dollar store to show to friends, and seeing that it was the version where he lives, not knowing that this movie has different endings. I thought I was losing my mind. I think partly because in his death, he made the ultimate sacrifice, and could be at peace, while the one where he is saved just felt wrong for some reason.

  • @gentle_apathy
    @gentle_apathy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Fire is purifying. I feel that's probably why it was involved in his sacrifice.
    Also, it's broad daylight and I was still getting chills.

  • @dropboxmoabit384
    @dropboxmoabit384 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is hands down the best movie analysis to ever grace the tube. Thank you!
    I'd like to add that the doppelganger is his more sinful self, being dressed in black and sitting in front of an empty block. and most importantly: he is smoking a cigarette. As Mike makes a big deal out of having quit smoking and carrying around his last cigarett wherever he goes.
    I do prefer the director's cut ending where he doesn't live. It makes his sacrifice more impactful and the film less hollywood. He can only truly redeem himself by making the ultimate sacrifice.

  • @prestonmatossian9347
    @prestonmatossian9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The timing of this video was incredible. I'm so glad I stumbled across it while journeying through the TH-cam abyss.

  • @PunkExMachina
    @PunkExMachina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I prefer the theatrical cut ending’s somewhat. Mostly because of Samuel L. Jackson’s character. In the theatrical cut it is somewhat understood that he knows something we don’t. That he’s somehow part of everything. But in the alternate cut. He seems scared and concerned. He’s even spooked by the ghost in the car. That takes all the mystery that was built up upon the character away for me.

    • @butlershome7777
      @butlershome7777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yea, and ending such an awesome movie with a shitty clichee mirrorjumpscare ruins it for me.

  • @LL3Jay
    @LL3Jay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Damn.. I always said this movie is underrated.

  • @AprilGabrielle
    @AprilGabrielle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, this was really deep. It never even occurred to me that Mike died at the beginning of the film, but hearing you explain it makes perfect sense. Great video!

  • @muskodine
    @muskodine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Fascinating breakdown. The messages are all in the movie, but the spectacle somewhat obscures their meanings. Now I want to watch the movie again with a "new set of eyes". Thank you.

  • @spencerallbritton9459
    @spencerallbritton9459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    You should really send this to Stephen King, I think he would love this! Incredible job man!

    • @sobo2001
      @sobo2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I don't know about that. Artists usually never appreciate an interpretative take on their song, movie, painting, etc. For one, the critic could never understand the artists motives 100%. Two, even if the reviewer could get everything right, the artist doesn't like to have his obscure ideas revealed in totality, especially if they are not doing the reveal themself. If the piece is supposed to induce thought, sometimes even into several distinct ideas or morals, they don't like it narrowed to a one, even if it is the primary.

    • @jrharlow4360
      @jrharlow4360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They did send it, he said yea that's cool...... I wrote it that way. . . . . . Meme with picture of king and song playing 'dam it feels good to be a gangsta'

    • @Jennifahh
      @Jennifahh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jrharlow4360 like the guy above said, artists doesn't like their tricks or motives to be revealed

  • @Boy10Dio
    @Boy10Dio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    i can tell a man's quality by his appreciation of the film room 1408.
    literally instasubbed lol

    • @gooberstein4166
      @gooberstein4166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boy10Dio i loved this movie, especially when we thought he escaped, but didnt and the mailroom started to get destroyed, but this video essay makes me appreciate it way more

    • @DaGraphittiX
      @DaGraphittiX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boy10Dio I loved it

    • @itsjenn.4660
      @itsjenn.4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! Subbed before I started watching lol

    • @robertvarcoe651
      @robertvarcoe651 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the mini story 1408 by king was good

  • @jacobroman3168
    @jacobroman3168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow I’m taking aback, do you know how many years I’ve always know what 1408 represented, and now to see I’m not being called “OCD” by my friend who says I over analyze horror movies. Lmao this was a great video and the narration is FLAWLESS!!! I think you have a new subscriber. 😉

  • @ThatFuckinGame
    @ThatFuckinGame ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is, to this day, one of the best videos on youtube. ever. the production not only is amazing, its very smart, the writing its clever, clear, the ideas are understandable and even the sound aspect its so well done. what an amazing essay. people should use this video as inspiration into how to make a high quality essay.

  • @sebastienvondoom8615
    @sebastienvondoom8615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    "And turn to ash."
    "Mr. Enslin, I don't feel so good."

  • @kaizaki9148
    @kaizaki9148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I've never even seen this movie but this is brilliant, I'm sold. Physiological horror is my favourite genre

  • @M.VanFleet
    @M.VanFleet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This explanation of 1408 was fantastic. I watched this movie a dozen times and Dante's Inferno never crossed my mind. Such an awesome way of putting things in a different perspective for all of us. Great work!

  • @anthonyriche552
    @anthonyriche552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job putting all of that together in a cohesive visual analysis. Nice touch on the ending song also- "We've Only Just Begun." IDK why but somehow that really wrapped it up perfectly.

  • @siddsen95
    @siddsen95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This was such an eloquent gut punch to absorb (as a confused agnostic.)
    Every single sentence you have written and each frame explained is a tour de force of moral inquiry.
    Your work deserves acclaim and preservation in film studies archives, at the very least.

    • @goddessgreen
      @goddessgreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree that this was very well done. Kept my attention and made me question things from beginning to end.

  • @walaxel926
    @walaxel926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Your video editing and writing is superb. Bravo. 30 minutes flew over me in an instant

  • @AtexPhwin
    @AtexPhwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Basing on the many subtle hints and hidden details no average viewer could notice it really makes me think how talented and cultured some movie dirrectors and screenwriters are, and most importantly the ability to translate written text into a visual representation in such sophisticated way, just makes me envy them for their intellectual.

    • @lecobra418
      @lecobra418 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude, Mike Enslin makes a direct reference to the circles of hell in the scene where the room is freezing cold. The average viewers even dared to deem the director as a vulgar Yes Man, it's hilarious how stupid, and, yet, full of themselves the average folk are.

  • @justamanofculture12
    @justamanofculture12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was by far one of the best explanation of a movie i have ever seen. Phenomenal and quality content. Your pacing is awesome. Subscribed.

  • @lchambers56
    @lchambers56 5 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    What you essentially created in this video was a sermon, and a deep, moving, and effective one at that. A sermon that I needed to hear.
    Thank you.

    • @airatrev6557
      @airatrev6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I can wholeheartedly agree with that.

    • @kevinkellyswellies
      @kevinkellyswellies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      amen

    • @djentile7773
      @djentile7773 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on!

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      study Buddhism and Hinduism. They are philosophies that go deeper into this.

    • @matthewkearney9044
      @matthewkearney9044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with your silly religion.

  • @stunned86
    @stunned86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This is, by far, the best video I've seen on youtube with less that 100,000 views.

  • @robertgagne8892
    @robertgagne8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a brilliant analysis on my all-time favorite horror movie. I knew it had references to The Divine Comedy, but did not realize just how closely connected those two stories really were!
    That movie was truly terrifying, and even today I still have to "prep" myself before watching it...; god, even THINKING about it scares the pants off me! A freaking masterpiece, IMHO...
    And, I should mention that I'll NEVER be able to listen to that particular Carpenters song ever again without chills running down my spine (that bloody filtering effect was brill :-}

  • @jt4531
    @jt4531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why after three years youtube is pulling up this video right now on my suggestions? I had no idea there was out there such a deep analysis of this masterpiece. 10 kudos for you sir, the best analysis of a movie I've seen so far. By the way the version I saw was the director's cut, the end is completely different than this one. I highly recommend this version for those who haven't seen it yet.

  • @markstanton63
    @markstanton63 6 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    'We've Only Just Begun' - The Carpenters ...... Jesus Christ - a Carpenter

    • @Williamwestp24
      @Williamwestp24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Trying to correlate things there (as according to the movie).

    • @AngryRamboShow
      @AngryRamboShow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Thor also liked working with a hammer. Jesus died being nailed to a cross. I'm seeing a correlation there.

    • @wowza935
      @wowza935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Carpet makes up 60% of the word carpenter.
      I have carpet in my room.
      I walk on it.
      I'm Jesus.

    • @googleuser9383
      @googleuser9383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      While this video provides a great analysis it really doesn't paint god in a good light.
      So, god tortures this man's soul with unneccessary strain. According to the principles of conditioning, in other words how your "god" supposedly has created us, it is absolutely rational to refuse the concept of a benevolent higher being. Where's the "Mercy" in this so called "mercyful" god?
      God seems so much worse than jigsaw. That guy at least kills you only once.
      Ps. You know what's even worse? There is no limbo in the new testament (jesus himself declared that). No purgatory. Only ETERNAL hell. ETERNAL punishment for a FINITE "crime" in the eyes of a sick tyrant.
      PPs. Would you pray to kim jong un if he'd threaten you with eternal death, assuming this is the only life there is?

    • @alexanderstrickland9036
      @alexanderstrickland9036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kenji Wright to be fair 1408 and other fictional writings with similar heaven/hell-God/devil themes kind of put the protagonist through a trial or Crucible(see what I did there? Lol).
      It's kind of like the saying, "god only helps those who help themselves".
      In 1408 god isn't the antagonist, a devil/djin/demonic force is.
      The typical application of god in modern works (like 1408 and shamalamadingdong's 'Devil', Constantine, the book of Eli, the da Vinci code, etc.) is such that he works with subtle nudges as opposed to just outright banishing a demon or saving the hero.
      And they are 'tests and trials'. If Eli failed to deliver the last Bible then that would be it, he would have failed his trial.
      God in cinema allows us to be self determanitory(except legion where he takes wishy washy sides).
      That can kinda sorta ify maybe attributed to how badly god messed up when he flooded the world and decided he would never do that again(possibly even interfere directly at all).

  • @PersianBenji16
    @PersianBenji16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Damn you dante, you made me think twice about doing sinful things. Hell is horrible jeez

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dante, the real reason Ned is a christian

    • @AngryRamboShow
      @AngryRamboShow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      According to Dante, merely existing is reason enough to be cast into hell. Even Christ has been ill-mannered, sullen, wrathful, humorless, and a contrarian. The Talmudic scrolls claim that Jesus is boiling in hell now for being a contrarian. I guess Dante should have thought twice about making it to where merely farting is viewed as being hell-worthy, since he seems to have forgotten that Christ himself has a hell-bound heart.
      The moral of the story is that religion is stupid, and holy men are con-artists.

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      hell ABSOLUTELY is horrible... it's the most horrible thing we've imagined so far... it's also not real

    • @mr.s7522
      @mr.s7522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@AngryRamboShow >according to Dante
      Sure thing champ
      >According to the Talmud
      The book of the synagogue of Satan? Which orchestrated to have Christ crucified? I bet they do believe some retarded shit in that book

    • @Karl_Marksman
      @Karl_Marksman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not Important I'm not religious, but I still believe we're all capable of creating our own metaphorical hell. -perverted and perverting, weaving itself insidiously into the very fabric of life. Find that movie quote

  • @st3althyone
    @st3althyone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far them most comprehensive tear down of a film that I have seen in along time. Well done my friend, well done! Makes me see this film from a completely different perspective!

  • @thelonecabbage7834
    @thelonecabbage7834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    God : "You never believed in me, so I'm going to traumatically prove to you that I am real"
    Mike : "Bro, all I needed was proof without the trauma"

    • @valorrepublic8059
      @valorrepublic8059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bruh you literally just sat through a 30 minute explanation yet somehow missed the whole point.God didn't do anything. Mike did everything to himself.

    • @memyself898
      @memyself898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@valorrepublic8059 so god didn't make the rules of the game then? Is he not omnipotent?

    • @RR-xz6bv
      @RR-xz6bv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      me myself it’s not rules, it’s laws. Like the law of gravity, he doesn’t do anything. If you jump, you get pulled down. If you sin, you get pulled down.

    • @memyself898
      @memyself898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RR-xz6bv who created these rule...er...I mean laws? Was it not god? If not, is he not omnipotent?

    • @dontask6863
      @dontask6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I chuckle at how you all that question god, don’t get what omnipresent entails. Have you not heard of the rebellion of the most perfect angel? Lucifer? Have you not understood what FREEWILL means? Have you not understood that the devil is allowed only to work his confusion because God wants YOU to choose what’s right on your OWN accord. God loves its creation it will even allow us to have a choice to deny them. And if we do deny, then the devil has the reign over your reality. The devil is the one creating pain trying to pull you with doubt into the cold. You know what the right choice is. Goodness. Yet many still seem to not get the duality of this plain. It’s a choice. A test of your faith. What you wish most you will become.

  • @TheJoelys86
    @TheJoelys86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That was incredible, you seriously made me do a complete 180 on 1408. Seriously, you took a so so average film and made it one of my favorite horror/thriller films of all time. Kudos👍

    • @synystersilence60
      @synystersilence60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am so glad you did not say 360. You will not believe how many people I've seen say, 360.

  • @Coldaardvark2
    @Coldaardvark2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You know, when I first saw this movie, I thought it was silly. Kind of a bummer. Now that I'm older, and wiser, and now that I've seen your video, good lord...this is a good movie. This is a horror movie that tells a story, leaves it open, keeps it SIMPLE while having so much depth. The main character, is also NOT AN IDIOT.
    And the biggest part that makes it wonderful? It's a mental horror, not a fear horror. This is a horror that you watch, and try to understand. When you understand it, it's not "scary" it's "intelligent."
    Thank you so much, I love this and I think I'll give 1408 another watch!

  • @hellobirdie0617
    @hellobirdie0617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great find on TH-cam.
    This is absolutely intelligent, clear and made me see this movie (which I’ve seen many, many times and read the SS by King) in a completely different way.
    Mind blown! Well done.
    I can’t wait to check out more of your content.

  • @Bigb3ar11
    @Bigb3ar11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not gonna lie man, at first I was thinking you were over reaching on a great movie, but as you continued and gave each reason for every layer I left with a newfound respect for one of my favorite movies of all time and will honestly never be able to see it the same way again. Thank you for educating me.

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 6 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Very good analysis...
    One other aspect of importance I'd like to point out. Later on as the film goes on and all this happening to him. Once again he opens the Bible hoping to seek relief, only to find the pages totally empty. This illustrates how he is separated from God.
    Overall this is a pretty effective scary flick with a lot of unexpected twists and turns. One of the many standout scenes of this movie is when he observes two people (from long ago) who jump out of the window. First a man and then a woman (presumably the wife noted by her crying in grief because her husband jumped out first).
    Using "We've Only Just Begun" by the Carpenters was effective in that the song is supposed to be about a new beginning in a relationship. Instead, the song portends a new beginning of torment. Also notice how the song goes off key and slows down later in the movie which adds to the overall effect and reinforces the scene.
    Although it did good in the theaters and can be judged a success, it should have been a blockbuster. But sometimes the spookiest of movies are underrated and fly under the radar generally become cult classics like "Carnival of Souls", ""Phantasm" and the original 1968 "Night of The Living Dead". This one deserves to be in that category as 'cult classic' despite being released in 2007.

    • @tituslafrombois1164
      @tituslafrombois1164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can't forget how everyone hated The Shining when it was released lol. This film definitely blew me away. I'd seen it for years at DVD stores and avoided it because the cover made it look like mediocre shlock, but then when I finally watched it simply because I found out John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson were in it, it amazed me! I think that definitely fits the criteria for cult classic.

    • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
      @MidlifeCrisisJoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I remember watching the film when it released theatrically, having recently read the short story collection it was originally published in. It was the only story in that collection that was genuinely unnerving, and when I saw the film I thought it was easily the best or second best adaptation of a work by King I had ever seen (it competes with The Mist for that title in my eyes). A real under-appreciated film that was better produced than I thought possible. And frankly, one of John Cusack's best performances, since the entire film rests on buying his emotional state.
      But even then, on opening weekend, it was not drawing that much of a crowd. Shame really.

    • @Last_Green_Man
      @Last_Green_Man 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad you included Phantasm in your list. That one is incredible. The 71 Cuda itself deserves an in-depth analysis.

  • @aaronpeters6209
    @aaronpeters6209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    10:20 "So, if you've made your peace. Then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all. Understand?"
    - Louie, from "Jacob's Ladder"

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard they're remaking that movie. It can't possibly turn out as well as the original.

    • @thothheartmaat2833
      @thothheartmaat2833 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a goofy mind fuck of a quote.. what is good and what is evil? The devil's are angels and murder and death are good? Really?

    • @aaronpeters6209
      @aaronpeters6209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnturtle6649 It's not a remake necessarily, pretty sure its a couple of people going through a similiar experience. I still agree with your doubts.

    • @aaronpeters6209
      @aaronpeters6209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thothheartmaat2833 I basically have a sneaking suspicion that people can interpret angels to be demons. Because they are expressing a tarnished version of themselves. One's angels are trying to the destroy this attachment/memory that keeps one from being an inauthentic version of him/herself.
      That's why I link that quote to that particular scene, hammer weilding woman could be interpreted as an angel. She goes after the shadow version of Cusack. He turns to find that she not there, she doesnt want all of him. Just the part that is not a pure expression of himself.

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thothheartmaat2833 Dont mock what you dont understand

  • @yasminemobley7858
    @yasminemobley7858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This has got to be the most intelligent and well thought out analysis of this film I've ever seen. I never would have thought to parallel this film with Dante's Inferno. The way you explained it made so much sense.

    • @ArinJager1
      @ArinJager1 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean this reaching, bias, projecting,... etc.? nah, far from it

  • @gratrunka6479
    @gratrunka6479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing film analysis! 1408 is one of those movies I saw randomly when I was probably too young to actually watch it. And its images are stuck in my head even though I only saw it once.

  • @heykenzo4284
    @heykenzo4284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    To this day, the final scene of this version is one of the most spine-chilling moments I can remember in cinema.

  • @illuminahde
    @illuminahde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "The depths horror can reach." I see what you did there.

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dante’s Inferno is very opinionated. Everyone Dante didn’t like is portrayed as being in Hell. He also gets to self-insert himself into a story where he gets to hang out with his favorite author.

    • @ArinJager1
      @ArinJager1 ปีที่แล้ว

      so is this video... it's biased, very biased

  • @Feastalisk
    @Feastalisk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've watched many many many review/analysis of this movie. I'm glad I found this one. Excellent job!

  • @Kennitto
    @Kennitto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    It still messes me up that he plays that tape for his wife to hear. Its unsettling

    • @MAYONNAISEMOOSE
      @MAYONNAISEMOOSE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What did that scene mean? Metaphysically as in all of what happened actually happened and the laymen could understand? or that he's still stuck in hell and everyone he knows is with him?

    • @joeamason117
      @joeamason117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought that meant the doppelganger was the one who made it out not him. He is wearing the dark clothes afterall

    • @jacks1bonnielass
      @jacks1bonnielass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Mayonnaise Moose
      It was meant to be literal, at least that’s the only way I’ve ever interpreted it. She hears the voice of her dead daughter, hence showing her that not only is her husband truly changed and a “believer”, but had proof that he spoke to their daughter and held her in his arms.
      How else would someone react if they heard the voice of their dead child on a voice recorder speaking to their spouse?? And the look on his face isn’t one of evil or foreboding, it’s a look of contentment. *He’s not only been purged of his sinful nature, but is at ease that he will see his daughter again someday.*

    • @MAYONNAISEMOOSE
      @MAYONNAISEMOOSE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jacks1bonnielass That is crazy! Im definitely going to watch this film. Even though its technically spoiled, idgaf. The experience is worth it

    • @mairedaly4548
      @mairedaly4548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jacks1bonnielass Yes, I came to that conclusion too... it's as if he says to his wife.... what I went through is real, I'm a changed man

  • @Justmyhandle
    @Justmyhandle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    In multiple aspects, one could also compare *Silent Hill 2's* themes of acknowledgement of/penance for sin + James Sunderland's journey to Dante's travels through Hell, although the levels would likely be more difficult to define & personify.

    • @alexanderstrickland9036
      @alexanderstrickland9036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Keith absolutely. Or even silent hill: the room on a introspective level as opposed to actual sinfulness.
      The themes and stories are so fucking good

  • @alicesrabbit7126
    @alicesrabbit7126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know I'm here three years later, but I couldn't not comment. I subbed because of this video. Then I watched your Minority Report video and was blown away all over again. I hope you keep up the good work. YOU DESERVE WAY MORE SUBS THAN YOU HAVE. I think if you are consistent and frequent, your channel will grow into something big and you'll be able to make a great living doing these amazing videos!!! 🐇

  • @LiLMiNicookie
    @LiLMiNicookie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Video Essay! This has to be one of the most well thought-out video essay i have ever witnessed.