How Artists Grow Over Time (ft. Cesar Santos)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode we talk $h!t about Old Masters. Just kidding… We respectfully analyze how artists have grown throughout history. Cesar Santos and I visit the San Diego Museum of Art to talk about what artists know now that some of the Old Masters didn’t. We also sit down to do a master study drawing of a Sargent painting!
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Credits
Producer - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokope...)
Artist - Cesar Santos (www.santocesar.com)
Editing - Brandon Storer, Stan Prokopenko
Production Assistance, Camera - Brandon Storer, Valentina Santos
Music Used with Permission
About Proko:
Instructional How to Draw videos for artists. My drawing lessons are approachable enough for beginners and detailed enough for advanced artists. My philosophy is to teach timeless concepts in an entertaining way. I believe that when you are having fun, you learn better. I take pride in producing high quality videos that you will enjoy watching and re-watching.
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Proko great video great teachers who can still have fun 👍
From frame: 10:53 - where you are holding Cesar Santos' sketch book - there is a painting of a woman's face in his sketch book. Please tell me, what medium did he use to paint that on his sketch book page? Was it a gouache medium?
By the way, I have seen many of your videos but this was a truly an enjoyable video to watch!!! Both you and Cesar Santos were great in this video - both entertaining and very informative. Love this video and I love your work! Thank you! I will watch your next video with Cesar Santos.
I agree with some of the comments here. You two could make this into a real television programme - going to art museums and discussing work and showing your art!
check out Cesar Santos sketchbook tours on his channel, i believe it is the very first episode has that sketchbook and how he did it - with gesso on the page then oil painting.
This art Bromance is highly entertaining!
Oh man, please do more of these!
PLEASE MORE !
You guys should defiantly go to more museums together!! I love the fun you both are having, and great points in the discussions!
+1
Watching arguably the greatest oil painter alive make a "that's what she said" joke has killed me and brought me back to life all at the same time
proko's personality is so warming and humble. like someone nice you can always relate to.
“Too deep for me man”
“That’s what she said” 😂😂
this should be a series
Stan and Cesar feel like they're on completely different levels of thinking it's so cool to see them disagree and argue their points to the other
The art is amazing but the chemistry these to have is unmatched. I would love to see more.
@Proko at the 7 min mark I saw it totally different the colors of the solder are healthy and the sick man is near death with the small angelic child behind him. To me the story was the death of a father or king. THANK YOU for doing this!
i was literally drawing while listening to them, it was so good, i even felt like I was painting better. (painting digitally by the way) i really enjoyed this video a lot.
joseph's daughter's son nice. I was practicing composition.
Really like how honest both of you was during the sketching, really encurage doodlers like myself. 👌🏻
Goddam.. two my favorite artists together!!!! My respect to you fallows!
I love all these videos that you and Cesar have made, I think its always great to have a friend come along for the journey, things just get so much more interesting:) And what a great contrast you two are, Proko more calculated while Cesar almost spiritual.
I think I just went up 6 levels as an artist just by watching this video. More like this, please!
you guys are adorable!!!!
Such weird, talented people! So interesting to see ya'll interact.
Good vibes!!!!
Cesar is too fucking cool. The best museum buddy around!
24:40 when all is said and done, that's a boy! really cracks me up.
Two masters! Y'all are adorable. Very entertaining and fun and educational.
I m happy to see you both and feel like, no great artist is perfect at every point and still learn all life long
This is great! It's my new favorite thing to do! Draw at the metropolitan museum! I usually draw statues!
This is awesome! Thank you for this!
I luckily grew up in a place surrounded by great museums. And may shed some light on why the color might look off on otherwise fantastic paintings.
First, the particular pigment may have gotten discolored over time.
In the 16th century, blue pigment was VERY rare. And the initial elements used to make them didn’t retain their vibrancy and hue, and may have reacted poorly with other pigments causing discoloration over time.
And second (and this is likely true of the first painting from the 16th century) the colors may have been restored/repaired/replaced. This could also be the case of why the skin tones in the 2nd painting look so different from each other. Parts that have been drastically faded or discolored may have been restored.
Just an idea.
Again, thank you! I’m really enjoying this series! :-)
Thanks for the info.
could watch these two all day, huge insights
13:22 the look of sheer focus on Cesar’s face😂😂
I love your tutes and art!...I also admire Cesar Santos. The interviews with you two was soooo interesting. Another artist/teacher I love is Muraljoe. Yes...his work is so different from yours but he is no less a wonderful teacher and I love his mural tutes even though I will never do a mural. It would be great if you 3 could get together and discuss your different approaches and talents for fine art, working in your different mediums and styles. You all have very pleasing personalities and exceptional talents and for those of us who cannot attend your lessons, we thank you for putting out these wonderful little vids.
That was an excellent point you made, Stan, at 05:03 - 07:00 about the color- and light differences between the two people's arms, in various parts of the drapery, and the reflection light, and how those color errors ruin the cohesiveness of the painting. You are indeed right, these "mistakes" make the painting look a bit amateurish, despite these techniques might have been part of a painting trend that were taught back then. Thanx for pinpointing that.
I love the fact that you guys are learning from each other!
I think a bit of art historical perspective is needed here. Stylistic differences between artists whose works span centuries shouldn't be viewed as mistakes or shortcomings. Lucas Cranach the Younger wasn't a primitive painter just because he didn't paint the way Caesar Santos does. That would be like an abstract painter saying Santos' work is faulty because it's "too realistic" and "not abstract enough."
Definitely. Historical perspective on the usage and availability of materials and influence of contemporary tastes of clients should also not be ignored. Context is everything.
Loved your different way of seeing and noticing things in the different paintings before you started drawing the Sargent.Would love to see you both drawing together again and again. You are both so talented!! Hearing your conversational banter was informing too. It's a BOY!!! that was funny.
it was great to see two great artists sharing their knowledge and techniques with each other, please do more :)
This is the very best art lesson video ever!
You guys have good chemistry in describing composition and a piece that makes sense,...excellent,...keep up the good work.
This is one of the dopest colabs
Loved it! Thank you for sharing and inspiring me!
awesome.. drew along with you guys...love the charcoal dust idea.
Just love your art vids man!
Holy crap! You just taught me how to use a lead pointer!!!!! Thanks.
U guys are awesome together!
this needs to be a series
Brilliant
I like how the format of the Bouguereau makes it look like a window or door frame. Adds to the story imo.
I loved this so much. Thanks guys
this is so awesome man please do a full series on this museum tours.
Me encanta este video dos artistas famosos de TH-cam en un museo !
This was awesome. More of these would be amazing
getting goose pimples from the information overload contained in their casual conversation
2 of my favorite artists collaborating! 😊
This is a art class show it’s so fun to watch
Soooo good and also very fun. Thanks guys.
Love this! Def getting that little charcoal tool.
Oh! I didn't know that about the guides for sharpening the mechanical pencil. Oh man, I need to do that!
i Hope 1 day , Cesar & Santos going to museum becomes a series
I LOVE proko!!
this is great! you and cesar together, what a team!
i love this, more like this please
In his book Lives of the Most Eminent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects, Giorgio Vasari noted that Michelangelo stated once: "Those who are followers can never pass by whom they follow".
I mean, not to sound negative. Michelangelo himself started by copying drawings from churches, but at some point you have to let go and start seeking your own ideal.
I love the fun in Art! Yep, I totally seen him as a girl too!!
Would love to see more of these while you converse. Only Cesar Santos is allowed to use pan pastels in a museum! Lol ☺️
Look at the different approaches 14:50
There's a bouguereau in the South Australian Art Gallery I was so excited when I walked in and saw it.. both of you should come to adelaide for a MAster class at my school Called CDW studios :)
Learned quite a few things from this video, thanks :)
awesome channel!!
It was so interesting to watch you draw together = very inspiring
Great video, it was eye candy and very "feel good" energy.
Loved the twist at the end..just like The Crying Game lol
It's so difficult to draw children!! I enjoyed your video. Brings me back to my Fine Arts degree!
Amazing you two! Should hang out together more often and discuss art 🎨
The end is mind blowing :))) That girl is actually a boy
It's a trap
Yeah in the past young boys were dressed in gowns and had long hair, until a certain age where they would have their 'breeching'. There's a famous photo of Franklin Roosevelt dressed like this.
Thank you for the info!
Glad that you put no music while you draw. I can put a calm jazz piano music in the background.
Where can I get that compressed charcoal and stick applicator that Cesar used?
advancedfirefly its this I'm pretty sure.
www.panpastel.com/about.html
Δtreyu what about the tool to spread it on?
I saw one just yesterday at blick art supply
Thank you Proko for showing me how to properly use a Mars Technico! xD
You guys are so funny together
This was a fun collab, thanks to you both!
Man, I wish I could go to a museum with you guys.
Great vedio, I'd like to see more of these
El gran boxeador de la pintura
John? Who is John? I was crying, y'all. But honestly I'd watch 10 hours of these two in museums. Entertaining, inspiring and informative. And a dash of gender non-conformity? What more could we ask for.
Do It again with Cesar and marshall stannnnnnnnnmnmmmmmm it would be so coll
Maybe that's what artist tries to comm. they are not in the same dimension so the don't reflect light to each other .👍🏻these videos are fun . Good job.
13:40 dayum son"
What was the tool that they used along with the compressed charcoal?
I stop using those led holders because I kept breaking the lead. Thanks for the info.
Never seen the use of those intrument i don't think i will use them because i hate messy medium but it good to see there option i wasn't even aware of them.
Two men crazy for the art, lost in the museum!
Nice background music in the introduction
this was AMAZING
Man, I just wanna hang out with Cesar.
These conversations :D:D I love this video
الاثنين مبدعين...علي جبار ارت من العراق
LOVE watching both of you and your channels I’m so glad you guys ended up collaborating and I hope you guys do more in the near future!! Also “ THATS A BOY?” Cracked me up I thought it was a girl as well haha
I can't be the only one who scrambled to my graphite sharpener and tried out the 2 measuring holes with awe and amazement. Right...?
I knew about the two holes already, but that's only because I took drafting and architecture classes back before such things were all done in CAD. I just want to know what that little tool they were using to apply the charcoal was! (Edit: After reading down further in the comments, I see now it's not charcoal, it's PanPastel and comes with the little applicator. Neat!)
May I ask which kind of sharpener it is? In the art supplies in my country there are not sharpeners like that!
It's a Staedtler Mars lead pointer for 2mm drafting pencils. Order it online or look at a place that sells drafting supplies rather than art supplies.
Great video. Please include the charcoal and applicator in the description.
Search for "Panpastel" tools
that's what she said.
Very interessting
Only Proko could get away with this.
Awesome video, close ups to the drawing are out focus though, thanks for sharing.
I love this but wish the sound was a bit better. It's so difficult to hear what Cesar is saying, and I hate missing it!
You and Andrew Tischler are my new TH-cam Artiste Compadres!
Im not sure if its right to judge a painting by its color, considering most of them the color faded or changed with time, they didnt had great painting oils like we have now, we are really lucky right now.
no, they didn't judge it by the color, he was judging it, by the relationship of the color, there was a lack of understanding about light that proko was trying to point out, there should have been reflected light from the figures tying them all together, also they should have a similar light, you can argue for artistic creativity, but its portrayal of light is unquestionably incorrect, not based on the fading of the painting, artists at the time were unaware of it at the time. Proko's analysis was spot on, that lack of understanding, however, wouldn't have been evident in a black and white study.
I definitely think it was the style of painting at the time. These are very good artists and Proko would not be able to replicate such composition and story. Really beautiful pieces of work.